g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\1999\1970-1.txt ************************************************************************ From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Thu Jan 1 12:00:00 1970 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 11:00:00 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... References: <000301bf0c40$b484b720$05000006@p4v56> <001d01bf0c46$6655b440$262f2ac4@coqui.net> <37f56a18.2273824@mail.voicenet.com> <37F5731C.F192A844@mediaone.net> Message-ID: 4) the best from Revox, Tandberg, UHER/Kudelski - to produce a reel-to-reel. --- --- --- wins every time. I'm not sure , however , what you mean by "the best Linn, Nakamichi, xxxxxx, you name it, has to produce a traditional vinyl" ? ? John H > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > >======= > > >> > > >> > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Thu Jan 1 12:00:00 1970 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Thu, 01 Jan 1970 11:00:00 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Q. What is consideredto be Naks most reliable transport & whichdecksare they in References: <35f4cd0f.2527c638@aol.com> Message-ID: SPKRMANJZZ at aol.com wrote:>Seems part of the enjoyment of using a classic Nak is that you can tell that some thought went into where to put controls and how they "feel" as they operate. < I hate to admit it, but the above statement is way off the mark. Having used a Dragon daily for a decade, take it from me the the bloody thing is an ergonomic nightmare. The illegible lettering and miniscule bias, Dolby etc buttons must have been 'designed' with miniaturized fingers in mind. As I have confessed before here, I have resorted to painting these buttons with various shades of nail polish to distinguish them. I'm only willing to put up with this because the Dragon seduces me with musicality. As to a 'final cassette deck' have a listen to the new decks Nakamichi has just released - despite the lack of on board automated azimuth adjustment - they sound great to my ears. Time will tell however as to reliability. If you are comparing recording mediums I suggest an important consideration, often ignored, is the access you have to skilled technical support (ie a damned good technician) for each of these media. If I lost my Nak technician I think I would have to give up cassette. (Hideous thought!) Good Luck John H ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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URL: g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\1999\1998-8.txt ************************************************************************ From w.smetanig at teleweb.at Wed Aug 26 15:37:10 1998 From: w.smetanig at teleweb.at (Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig) Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 15:37:10 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] dragon for sale Message-ID: <004301bdd0f6$ac94b140$4601010a@P200.telekabel.at> Hi! I´m interested in this sweet little thing of desire:-)) How about the price? Sincerely Wolfgang ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\1999\1999-1.txt ************************************************************************ From salimarz at yahoo.com Fri Jan 1 02:42:48 1999 From: salimarz at yahoo.com (Salim Marzuki) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 08:42:48 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] sr-3a References: Message-ID: <000801be3528$0c458840$9a299bca@smarzuki> Hi Rob, Not that I know of. (at least it doesn't have IR remote sensor, don't know about cable-remote). Cheers, SM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert A. Hamilton" To: Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 6:07 AM Subject: [naktalk] sr-3a > HI, Does anyone know if all sr-3's were remote capable? And if so, does > anyone have a remote for sale? Thanks! Rob > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Salim SM _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Oct 1 00:01:58 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:01:58 -0400 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...Missing from DR10? References: <862567FC.0070BDCD.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> <37F3D541.F125BB66@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <000701bf0b8f$6b285f20$632f2ac4@coqui.net> They tried to do this with the RAMM. The only problem is that the companies are not willing to spend more research and innovation money on cassette decks. Unfortunately, from now on we'll see the last " great decks " from anyone. Nakamichi and Revox are doing the last attempts of a fine cassette deck... Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: mdhjwh To: Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 5:25 PM Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...Missing from DR10? > The single most important innovation that would extend the > life of the cassettes digital indexing. > The general public is now accustomed to the convenience of > fast track search , access and indexing. > It is within the reach of existing technologies to implement this > if anyone (hopefully Nakamichi) is awake to the fact. > > Hail fellow Nakamaniacs > > John H > > george.m.hook at ac.com wrote: > > > I tend to disagree with this assessment. Though the cassette medium is > > becoming less important, I believe low-end manufacturers will continue to offer > > the format. How could they not? In the United States, you can go to the local > > franchise drugstore and pick up a Sony Walkman for 25 dollars (or less, if on > > sale). With that kind of availability, there will always be a market for a > > cassette-type recorder. I mean, people were counting out turntables 10 years > > ago, and specialty manufacturers are still making them (some, at 8,000 dollars a > > pop). Hopefully, wonderful Nakamichi will comprehend this, and manufacture a > > high-end cassette deck in keeping with its heritage. George > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From george.m.hook at ac.com Fri Oct 1 00:17:32 1999 From: george.m.hook at ac.com (george.m.hook at ac.com) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:17:32 -0500 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...Missing from DR10? Message-ID: <862567FC.0079C0FC.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> Until Sony (or some other enterprising company) can provide a hardy 25 dollar DVD or Compact Disk player (that doesn't skip, with or without skip guard) I don't think you will see the demise of the cassette tape medium, as you did with, say, the 8 track. While I acknowledge your point about vinyl (its days as a mass-produced medium are over), the cassette tape is another question. It's just too easy to buy a halfway decent listen on a Sony Walkman, which, if it breaks, can be easily replaced. Has anyone out there seen anything that compares with the durability and affordability of the generic Sony Walkman? I took one to the laundromat the other day, it dropped on the floor, and the blasted thing is still running! It is a necessary tool of the urban landscape, and the cassette tape is at its heart. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From tapes at pls-inc.com Fri Oct 1 00:45:19 1999 From: tapes at pls-inc.com (J W Norris) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:45:19 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Intro to NAKTalk and NAKTree Message-ID: <00dc01bf0b95$83109d40$0501a8c0@jw> Hey all, Just signed up for the NAKTREE list, but haven't gotten any mail yet. I have been lurking around here for a few months and an overjoyed at all that I have learned. My first NAK was a 1000 TriTracer. Loved it but It did not have a case and I did not have a rack. Then I got a chance to pick up a 700ZXE for a song and have just finished refurbishing it [thanks Steve Sank] and it blows me away. Passed the 1000 along to a friend who was in dire need of a deck and it still blows him out of his chair. As for the NAKTree, I would love to participate. I only have the 700 these days and hope that there is room for a single deck kind of guy [I also have a nice single well Sony whose catalog # escapes me now, so I can dub Sony > Nak if needed]. Thanks, J W Norris Lake Forest, CA -Original message- Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:38:45 -0400 From: "Carlos" Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #54 (The Cream) Well, Blues, as I told you before, I don't understand this life. When I advertise the NAK TREE I received a lot of inquires, now that it's already started nobody seems to be interested, except you and me that have already exchanged some very good music. Send me the master anyway. I'll take it to Copytech Mastering Services in San Juan to see if we can fix it better. AGAIN, if somebody out there is really interested to share some good music here're some addresses you may want to know: Carlos J. Guzman "The Tape Man" P.O. Box 219 Ceiba, Puerto Rico 00735-0219 Kenny Parsons "Mr. Blues" 946 Mohican Pass Madison, WI 53711 Anyone interested to add the name to our small organization ? The Tape Man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Oct 1 00:48:26 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:48:26 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? In-Reply-To: <37F3A376.6F83@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <000001bf0b95$ffdefe20$05000006@p4v56> I think Tom is right, that cassette machines in cars will help keep the medium alive, but only while the software remains cheaper than mini discs. However, the closer the price gap between them gets(and the better mini disc gets ... and it is getting better) the less viable cassette will seem for that remaining bit of the mass market. There is, however, something else that needs to be remembered. There are millions and millions of cassettes out there on which are treasured music collections. For as long as they are playable, there will be a market for machines to play them on ... albeit a small one ... just as there is a market for record decks, cartridges and styli that can play treasured 78 rpm record collections. Unfortunately, that's of little comfort to Carlos, just as it is of no encouragement to the guys who used to make 78's! That is, unless one gets into the cassette manufacturing game ... say, into buying the manufacturing rights of what becomes old classic designs, using new technology to build them cheaper and flogging them at premium prices to cassette collectors ...? Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Tom Bergman > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 06:53 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: captain at bestweb.net > Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? > > > As long as cassettes remain the most cost-effective way to > bring recorded music into your car, the format will stay alive. > Personally, I'd much rather bring a cassette copy of a CD into the > rather software-unfriendly environment of a car, than the CD > itself. If > the cassette gets ruined you just make another copy. If the CD gets > screwed up, it's sayonara--and you're going to have to spend much more > than the price of a cassette to replace it. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From targowski at mediaone.net Fri Oct 1 00:57:09 1999 From: targowski at mediaone.net (targowski) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:57:09 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? References: <862567FC.0070BDCD.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> <37F3D541.F125BB66@ozemail.com.au> <37F3A376.6F83@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <37F3EAC5.B24777A2@mediaone.net> Although I have a strong sentimental attachment to the cassette format I feel that this format is on its last legs. It would be interesting to do a survey, but I strongly feel that majority of participants/readers in this web-group are 30+. We all remember the good old days when tapes were the king, when we recorded vinyl to protect it, and to make music portable (as there were no mainstream boom-box turntables, no car turntables, etc.) We also had a lot of fun while calibrating fine Nakamichi (or other brand) decks using azimuth, level and bias oscillators, etc. The new generation, however, is into CD-R's and actually something new - MP3. Go around college dorms, and you will no longer see stacks of tapes, vinyl, or even CD's. What you have there are computers with T1 and T3 class connections to internet downloading new MP3 songs.. With the 'e-anything' you will see more retailers ala amazon.com, cdnow.com, looking for ways to sell you music direct by allowing you to pay and download. Once downloaded you will copy the files (songs) onto a CD-R, or perhaps some new device similar to RIO MP3 players. As far as portability, CD-R's are very cost effective way for making duplicates of your original CD's. You can go to a store like CDW and buy 20 TDK CDR-74's for $30. With the growing rate of home computers, and units equipped with CD-RW drives, we will see more CD-R's. Actually, you can download a bunch of MP3 files (check http://www.mp3.com ), convert them into 'wav' format and copy onto CD-R's - quality will be good enough for free music for the car or a boombox. Whenever I traveled in the past I would prepare tapes for my thin SONY cassette/tuner ($150 in 1987/8). Before a trip to UK and Belgium a few weeks ago, I ran out of time to record any new music, but still wanted to have a bunch of albums with me to listen on the plane, hotel, etc. Quick decision, I ran to Best Buy, grabbed a $70-80 AIWA CD-tuner with 10+ ESP, and took a wallet of CDs with me. This way also, whenever I bought new CDs on the trip I was able to listen to them right away instead of waiting till coming back home. Check out hi-fi stores, Crutchfield catalog, hey, even Nakamichi offerings. There are fewer and fewer tape decks available - most of them dual decks from SONY, JVC, Pioneer. Just my opinion... Stan Tom Bergman wrote: > As long as cassettes remain the most cost-effective way to > bring recorded music into your car, the format will stay alive. > Personally, I'd much rather bring a cassette copy of a CD into the > rather software-unfriendly environment of a car, than the CD itself. If > the cassette gets ruined you just make another copy. If the CD gets > screwed up, it's sayonara--and you're going to have to spend much more > than the price of a cassette to replace it. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From targowski at mediaone.net Fri Oct 1 01:13:57 1999 From: targowski at mediaone.net (targowski) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:13:57 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Mini Discs? References: <000001bf0b95$ffdefe20$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <37F3EEB4.B11E34AC@mediaone.net> In my opinion the future of Mini Discs is similar to that of a DCC (Digital Compact Cassette). It is over, even though SONY is paying a lot of money to promote it. For that matter, I see future of cassette tape medium much brighter than that of a Mini Disc (even though CD-R and MP3 is my best bet - as you have written in my previous entry.) Stan Graham Nelson wrote: > I think Tom is right, that cassette machines in cars will help keep the > medium alive, but only while the software remains cheaper than mini discs. > However, the closer the price gap between them gets(and the better mini disc > gets ... and it is getting better) the less viable cassette will seem for > that remaining bit of the mass market. > > There is, however, something else that needs to be remembered. There are > millions and millions of cassettes out there on which are treasured music > collections. For as long as they are playable, there will be a market for > machines to play them on ... albeit a small one ... just as there is a > market for record decks, cartridges and styli that can play treasured 78 rpm > record collections. Unfortunately, that's of little comfort to Carlos, just > as it is of no encouragement to the guys who used to make 78's! That is, > unless one gets into the cassette manufacturing game ... say, into buying > the manufacturing rights of what becomes old classic designs, using new > technology to build them cheaper and flogging them at premium prices to > cassette collectors ...? > > Graham > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > Tom Bergman > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 06:53 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Cc: captain at bestweb.net > > Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? > > > > > > As long as cassettes remain the most cost-effective way to > > bring recorded music into your car, the format will stay alive. > > Personally, I'd much rather bring a cassette copy of a CD into the > > rather software-unfriendly environment of a car, than the CD > > itself. If > > the cassette gets ruined you just make another copy. If the CD gets > > screwed up, it's sayonara--and you're going to have to spend much more > > than the price of a cassette to replace it. > > > > Tom > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > > Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------========= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Fri Oct 1 01:20:10 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 09:20:10 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? References: <000001bf0b95$ffdefe20$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <37F3F02A.FE99C7F6@ozemail.com.au> Graham Nelson wrote:> say, into buying the manufacturing rights of what becomes old classic designs, using new technology to build them cheaper and flogging them at premium prices to cassette collectors ...?< Count me in as one of the first customers. John H > ----------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ats99001 at uconnvm.uconn.edu Fri Oct 1 04:32:42 1999 From: ats99001 at uconnvm.uconn.edu (Andrew Smith) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:32:42 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #58 References: <199909302320.BAA06854@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <007101bf0bb5$50dfe5e0$519a6389@localnet> I break the survery a bit possibly. I'm 21, but I'm a weird old music freak so don't count me as at all representative of my generation. MP3's bloody suck, they sound like a turd drenched in spoiled bananna remnants. I've got two Naks and a DAT deck currently, and they all sound better than my cd player. I really do believe they made components better before current times. And they made music better back then too. But, as I said. I'm a freak born thirty years to late. Viva La Naka! > Although I have a strong sentimental attachment to the cassette format I feel that this > format is on its last legs. > > It would be interesting to do a survey, but I strongly feel that majority of > participants/readers in this web-group are 30+. We all remember ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ChefBum at aol.com Fri Oct 1 01:54:22 1999 From: ChefBum at aol.com (ChefBum at aol.com) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:54:22 EDT Subject: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette Message-ID: <8d29f98b.2525522e@aol.com> TO: NAKTALK I have been a pretty big cassette recording enthusiast in the past, but mainly because for a long time it was the only recording format that could even be considered to be close to hi-fi that was reasonably convenient and portable. I really liked the idea of recording *my own* music onto cassettes, which I could then play in my car (where unfortunately, most of us have the most time to enjoy our music). I agree with some comments made earlier that for recording from a CD, CDR is probably the best, highest fidelity possible. As most of you know, however, CDs surfaces are fragile (easily scratched) and really not all that portable or space-effiicient. Now that I have gotten an MD player, let me tell you, this format is the real stuff. Sure, blue-blood audiophiles claim that MD is not truly 'hi-fi'; well, it's no secret that they have *never* considered cassettes hi-fi either. In fact, only really expensive vinyl recording equipment and CDs have ever been considered truly audiophile source material by these people. I consider myself to be fairly critical about the sound of the music coming from my sound system, and I defy any of you to consistently detect differences in sound quality in an a-b-x comparison between CDs and MDs recorded from those CDs. When you couple this sound quality with this format's portability and add track access times similar to that of CDs, you have a recording format that is a clear winner. Oh, did I mention that mini-discs are far, far more rugged than either CDs or cassettes? Don't get me wrong, I think the cassette has been a trusty companion and the format has produced some beautiful cassette decks. But ask anybody who has used both for any length of time and they will tell you that the MD is a real winner and the winner between these two formats. Sincerely, David K. Nakamura ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Fri Oct 1 01:58:37 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 09:58:37 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? References: <862567FC.0070BDCD.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> <37F3D541.F125BB66@ozemail.com.au> <37F3A376.6F83@bestweb.net> <37F3EAC5.B24777A2@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <37F3F92C.C2DBBA91@ozemail.com.au> targowski wrote:>What you have there are computers with T1 and T3 class connections to internet downloading new MP3 songs..< And utterly appalling sound. Is the younger generation deaf? John H ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From fidelman at telcel.net.ve Fri Oct 1 01:54:55 1999 From: fidelman at telcel.net.ve (Isy Fidelman) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:54:55 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #58 References: <199909302320.BAA06854@zebra.naks.com> <007101bf0bb5$50dfe5e0$519a6389@localnet> Message-ID: <37F3F84F.99457D8C@telcel.net.ve> I am also under 30 (26 to be exact) and right now I own 4 Naks (1000 Limited, Dragon, CR-7A and LX-5) and I really enjoy them a lot. I record a lot of tapes but most of them I listen in my car. Here in Venezuela where I live I believe that record stores still sell a lot of tapes but cd is the king. You can find good old tape machines in sores which sell used equipment but in hi-fi sores if you can call them this way only double deck by Pioneer, Sony, Technics, etc. I love computers and so my friends but we don't listen to MP3 music since we really don't like how it sounds. By the way I would like to ask Carlos if I could go to your company since I am planning to visit Puerto Rico with my girlfriend.....and you recently said you have a relative who played major league baseball with the San Diego Padres...can you tell me his name??? Thanks a lot Isy Fidelman fidelman at telcel.net.ve Andrew Smith wrote: > I break the survery a bit possibly. I'm 21, but I'm a weird old music freak > so don't count me as at all representative of my generation. MP3's bloody > suck, they sound like a turd drenched in spoiled bananna remnants. I've got > two Naks and a DAT deck currently, and they all sound better than my cd > player. I really do believe they made components better before current > times. And they made music better back then too. But, as I said. I'm a > freak born thirty years to late. Viva La Naka! > > > Although I have a strong sentimental attachment to the cassette format I > feel that this > > format is on its last legs. > > > > It would be interesting to do a survey, but I strongly feel that majority > of > > participants/readers in this web-group are 30+. We all remember > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From george.m.hook at ac.com Fri Oct 1 02:39:26 1999 From: george.m.hook at ac.com (george.m.hook at ac.com) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:39:26 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette Message-ID: <862567FD.0002E8F9.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> I've heard alot of good about the MD (Stereophile magazine raved about the Sony MD not too long ago), but, seriously, can an MD player withstand the rigours of the urban workout? (laundry, public transportation, waiting in lines for the drivers license, etc.?) Folks, I'm as upscale as the next guy, but some of these gadgets are just too effete for my tastes and survivor instincts. Which is why I am holding on to my Nakamichi Cassette Deck-2, so I can record those still-fragile CDs onto hardy cassettes. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mpatrick at voicenet.com Fri Oct 1 04:31:09 1999 From: mpatrick at voicenet.com (FabFourFan) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 02:31:09 GMT Subject: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette In-Reply-To: <8d29f98b.2525522e@aol.com> References: <8d29f98b.2525522e@aol.com> Message-ID: <37f41c13.4925990@mail.voicenet.com> \\\yeah yeah yeah, please take the minidisk announcements to some minidisk mailing list, and leave them off the naktalk mailing list. this is not the 'things i think are better than cassettes' voting booth, eh? Mike 'today i'm the minidisk police' Patrick On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:54:22 EDT, you wrote: >TO: NAKTALK > >I have been a pretty big cassette recording enthusiast in the past, but >mainly because for a long time it was the only recording format that could >even be considered to be close to hi-fi that was reasonably convenient and >portable. >I really liked the idea of recording *my own* music onto cassettes, which I >could then play in my car (where unfortunately, most of us have the most time >to enjoy our music). > >I agree with some comments made earlier that for recording from a CD, CDR is >probably the best, highest fidelity possible. As most of you know, however, >CDs surfaces are fragile (easily scratched) and really not all that portable >or space-effiicient. > >Now that I have gotten an MD player, let me tell you, this format is the real >stuff. Sure, blue-blood audiophiles claim that MD is not truly 'hi-fi'; >well, it's no secret that they have *never* considered cassettes hi-fi >either. In fact, only really expensive vinyl recording equipment and CDs >have ever been considered truly audiophile source material by these people. >I consider myself to be fairly critical about the sound of the music coming >from my sound system, and I defy any of you to consistently detect >differences in sound quality in an a-b-x comparison between CDs and MDs >recorded from those CDs. When you couple this sound quality with this >format's portability and add track access times similar to that of CDs, you >have a recording format that is a clear winner. Oh, did I mention that >mini-discs are far, far more rugged than either CDs or cassettes? > >Don't get me wrong, I think the cassette has been a trusty companion and the >format has produced some beautiful cassette decks. But ask anybody who has >used both for any length of time and they will tell you that the MD is a real >winner and the winner between these two formats. > >Sincerely, > >David K. Nakamura ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From HerbChong at compuserve.com Fri Oct 1 04:55:13 1999 From: HerbChong at compuserve.com (Herb Chong) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:55:13 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Mini Discs? Message-ID: <199909302255_MC2-8722-69F9@compuserve.com> MD seems to be making major inroads in the semipro sound recording industry for portable digital multitrack recorders. Herb.... ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Oct 1 05:31:37 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:31:37 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #54 (The Cream) References: <19990930232533075.AAA230@mail.bee.net@smtp.bee.net> Message-ID: <000901bf0bbd$78531ae0$6d2f2ac4@coqui.net> Excellent and welcome aboard Gib ! Now that we have your address we can start trading music with you. Expect a tape very soon ! Carlos ----- Original Message ----- To: Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 3:25 PM Subject: Re: Re: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #54 (The Cream) > Carlos, > > I am very interested in the Nak Tree. I emailed Blues about trading last night. I think sometimes my return address doesn't appear. It is gibby at bee.net > > I have primarily Grateful Dead and related. But I also have some Zappa and other misc. bands. I am really interested in expanding my collection with other, different music. If you want to see my list it is at www.bee.net/gibby > > If you want to mail me directly at home it is > > Gib Lappano > 1919 Wynnewood Road > Philadelphia, PA 19151 > > I have a Nak BX-300 I record on and I can use either a Dennon DRW-580 or Sony TC-KE500S for playback. Quite a frugal setup compared to many at the naklist site, but that will improve with time. > > I hope to hear from you. > > Regards, > > Gib > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Oct 1 05:41:02 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:41:02 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #58 References: <199909302320.BAA06854@zebra.naks.com> <007101bf0bb5$50dfe5e0$519a6389@localnet> <37F3F84F.99457D8C@telcel.net.ve> Message-ID: <004301bf0bbe$caceb760$6d2f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Isy Fidelman To: Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #58 > By the way I would like to ask Carlos if I could go to your company since I am planning > to visit Puerto Rico with my girlfriend.....and you recently said you have a relative > who played major league baseball with the San Diego Padres...can you tell me his > name??? Hello Isy: You're welcome anytime. His name is William Daugherty and he's my brother in law. Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Oct 1 05:42:41 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:42:41 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Intro to NAKTalk and NAKTree References: <00dc01bf0b95$83109d40$0501a8c0@jw> Message-ID: <004b01bf0bbf$03cd2ba0$6d2f2ac4@coqui.net> Sure you can participate and welcome aboard ! Just in case, let me know your address. Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: J W Norris To: Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 6:45 PM Subject: [naktalk] Intro to NAKTalk and NAKTree > Hey all, > > Just signed up for the NAKTREE list, but haven't gotten any mail yet. I > have been lurking around here for a few months and an overjoyed at all that > I have learned. > > My first NAK was a 1000 TriTracer. Loved it but It did not have a case and > I did not have a rack. Then I got a chance to pick up a 700ZXE for a song > and have just finished refurbishing it [thanks Steve Sank] and it blows me > away. Passed the 1000 along to a friend who was in dire need of a deck and > it still blows him out of his chair. > > As for the NAKTree, I would love to participate. I only have the 700 these > days and hope that there is room for a single deck kind of guy [I also have > a nice single well Sony whose catalog # escapes me now, so I can dub Sony > > Nak if needed]. > > Thanks, > > J W Norris > Lake Forest, CA > > -Original message- > Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:38:45 -0400 > From: "Carlos" > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #54 (The Cream) > > Well, Blues, as I told you before, I don't understand this life. When I > advertise the NAK TREE I received a lot of inquires, now that it's already > started nobody seems to be interested, except you and me that have already > exchanged some very good music. > > Send me the master anyway. I'll take it to Copytech Mastering Services in > San Juan to see if we can fix it better. > > AGAIN, if somebody out there is really interested to share some good music > here're some addresses you may want to know: > > Carlos J. Guzman > "The Tape Man" > P.O. Box 219 > Ceiba, Puerto Rico 00735-0219 > > Kenny Parsons > "Mr. Blues" > 946 Mohican Pass > Madison, WI 53711 > > Anyone interested to add the name to our small organization ? > > The Tape Man > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Oct 1 05:46:55 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:46:55 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? References: <000001bf0b95$ffdefe20$05000006@p4v56> <37F3F02A.FE99C7F6@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <005b01bf0bbf$9bac90a0$6d2f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: mdhjwh To: Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 7:20 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? > Graham Nelson wrote:> say, into buying > the manufacturing rights of what becomes old classic designs, using new > technology to build them cheaper and flogging them at premium prices to > cassette collectors ...?< > > Count me in as one of the first customers. Good ! John and Graham maybe has just begun a revolution. But, do you have a single idea how much would cost to manufacture a 700 ZXL or 1000 ZXL nowadays ? In those years the retail price for the first was $3,000 and $3,600 for the last. Plus, the small number to be produced will make the price higher. I calculate that if a Dragon still be made by now, it would easily cost $3,000 + . A 1000 ZXL or 700 ZXL ? Oughh! over $5,000 !!!!!! Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wufwuf at cityscope.net Fri Oct 1 07:32:20 1999 From: wufwuf at cityscope.net (wufwuf) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 00:32:20 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] nak dat 1000 Message-ID: <37F44764.A128ED61@cityscope.net> i know this is for cassette, but does any have an owner's manual for the dat 1000? if so, can you photocopy and send. i will gladly pay for your help. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de Fri Oct 1 08:19:54 1999 From: Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de (Fendt Klaus) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:19:54 +0200 Subject: AW: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? Message-ID: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F20E@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Tom, I can't go along with this. Some time ago I placed a 6-CD-Changer in my car and a CD burner (is this the correct english word?) in my computer. After that I tried to "record" a CD by copying another and it sounds much better than any other cassette I recorded with my Nak decks even when the "car DRAGON" TD-1200 is used (of course I do not own such a device - the radio of my choice is a Becker Mexico 2330 with a connected Silverstone 2660) In addition to that: I never screwed up any CD in the long time I own them and think about that: A computer CDR in Germany costs less than 3 german marks - so I think you'll have to spend not much more than 1 U$ for it. At last look at the prices of CD burners (computer and HiFi based ones) and you're done. You can get the full comfort from the CD (skipping track instead of winding the tape) so why should anybody record tapes for the car? I won't do this any more Klaus > As long as cassettes remain the most cost-effective way to > bring recorded music into your car, the format will stay alive. > Personally, I'd much rather bring a cassette copy of a CD into the > rather software-unfriendly environment of a car, than the CD itself. If > the cassette gets ruined you just make another copy. If the CD gets > screwed up, it's sayonara--and you're going to have to spend much more > than the price of a cassette to replace it. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Fri Oct 1 10:21:20 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:21:20 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F20E@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Message-ID: <002f01bf0be5$f3470f40$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Hi Nakkers! Talking about Cassettes, MD and CD-R. I can tell you - my favorit always was reel-to-rell until I put my hands on a first Nak. I was trying, and tryin hard to listen MD... I changed several players, even professional Denon, new Sharp with latest ATRAC... No luck - I simply can not hear it! Beleive me, I was trying to like it, but never will. As for CD - it's really good stuff for getting close to unknown music, to listen just to know more and get more musical info - but still, I recorded all my CD on Nak and only then listening it. I know why it's sounds better - it's not a secret for anyone who knows about 16 bit/44 kHz standard and how sucks it is... I was playing with CD-burner, Yamaha, which was one of the most expencive and good-for-sound computer's burner. So, it makes good CD, but CD still be - CD. I don't know how DVD will be sounds, but... The main point of my speach - everyone has different years - and there is a best sounding sources for everyone. Someone will like terrible and "not live" sounds of MD, some will love CD, let us live with our Naks, and let's tell others how good they are! it's really easy - just listen, listen and listen. Than - you will be with us, or not (sorry, that's means that you are deaf). Michael Kiev, Ukraine ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From k.-h.herrmann at fz-juelich.de Fri Oct 1 13:35:12 1999 From: k.-h.herrmann at fz-juelich.de (Karl-Heinz Herrmann) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 13:35:12 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXl Service Manual In-Reply-To: <008501bf0b74$e79e8220$872f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: On 30-Sep-99 Carlos wrote: > Just acquired an original 700 ZXL service manual. If anyone needs a > copy of this 100+ pages monument, please reply off list to me. Hi Nakfans, I own a RX-505E and am wondering if it is possible to service/recalibrate the deck on my own. Since you acquire service manuals it seems some of you do :-) What would I need for calibrating the deck? The Specs for TDK SA have been changed over the last 10 years I own the deck and I have at least to compensate Bias now all the time. And it could be the rubber wheels are getting thin again -- at least the autoreverse triggered by the reel speed ratio is getting unaccurate again. Last time this happened they changed on one of the sound checks the rubber wheels and this was gone again. And is there a RX-505(E) service manual out somewhere? Even if I can't do everything myself, it would be nice to have one so at lest I won't do something wrong :-) I'm not even sure if there is still a decent service available in Europe. And one last thing -- I hear a lot of offers foer NAK's here on the list, but almost all are for US voltage. Are you aware of type's which carry a voltage switch 110V/220V? Or would it be possible to exchange the transformator for a different one (use it behind a 2:1 transformer)? There is not even the Voltage -- we use 50Hz on the current instead of 60Hz in the US. I appreciate any ideas on this, Karl-Heinz ---------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: Karl-Heinz Herrmann Date: 01-Oct-99 Time: 13:26:22 ---------------------------------------------------------- ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Fri Oct 1 10:40:43 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:40:43 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXl Service Manual References: Message-ID: <37F4738B.998@bestweb.net> Karl-Heinz, It IS possible to exchange transformers in Naks. Before I sent my CR-1A to my son, who lives in New Zealand, I had to exchange the US 60Hz/120V transformer for a 50Hz/240V unit. Cost: about $100. You can also use outboard converters, but the best way to go is the exchange, if possible. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Oct 1 14:49:02 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 08:49:02 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F20E@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Message-ID: <002301bf0c0b$571aa200$6a2f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Fendt Klaus To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:19 AM Subject: AW: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? > At last look at the prices of CD burners (computer and HiFi based ones) and > you're done. You can get the full comfort from the CD (skipping track > instead of winding the tape) so why should anybody record tapes for the car? > I won't do this any more > > Klaus > Klaus is right on the money ! I have a terrific Nakamichi audio system combined with Blaunpunkt speakers and Rockford amplifiers in my sport car. I have a 7 disc Nak changer (the old one). I don't know when was the last time I listened to a cassette there. Carlos > > > As long as cassettes remain the most cost-effective way to > > bring recorded music into your car, the format will stay alive. > > Personally, I'd much rather bring a cassette copy of a CD into the > > rather software-unfriendly environment of a car, than the CD itself. If > > the cassette gets ruined you just make another copy. If the CD gets > > screwed up, it's sayonara--and you're going to have to spend much more > > than the price of a cassette to replace it. > > > > Tom > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Fri Oct 1 10:52:27 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 08:52:27 +0000 Subject: AW: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F20E@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Message-ID: <37F4764A.5CA7@bestweb.net> Klaus, I guess I stand corrected, but I still think a lot people will use their already existing cassette equipment for quite awhile before laying out major bucks for all new expensive systems both in the car and at home. I DO agree that your setup sounds pretty appealing. There are some pretty cool MD car systems, too, and MD blanks are getting less and less expensive all of the time. Also, they are very well protected in their little plastic cases. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From tapes at pls-inc.com Fri Oct 1 18:04:15 1999 From: tapes at pls-inc.com (J W Norris) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:04:15 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Intro to NAKTalk and NAKTree References: <199910011302.PAA09999@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <002301bf0c26$a4fe8f20$0501a8c0@jw> Carlos, My address is: J W Norris c/o Pacific Lighting Sales, Inc. 23666 Birtcher Drive, Suite 100 Lake Forest, CA 92630 Thanks, J W > Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:42:41 -0400 > From: "Carlos" > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Intro to NAKTalk and NAKTree > > Sure you can participate and welcome aboard ! Just in case, let me know your > address. > > Carlos > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wpost at hondutel.hn Fri Oct 1 17:42:55 1999 From: wpost at hondutel.hn (Warren Post) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 09:42:55 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] MP3 (was Re: naktalk-digest V1 #58) References: <199909302320.BAA06854@zebra.naks.com> <007101bf0bb5$50dfe5e0$519a6389@localnet> Message-ID: <37F4D67E.68578A9B@hondutel.hn> I agree that every MP3 I've ever heard sounds bad. I've always thought, however, that it's a hardware problem: computer sound cards aren't designed to reproduce sounds to our exacting standards. I would no more compare my beloved BX-125 to my made in China sound card than I would compare a Dragon to a $25 Wal-Mart Walkman. If somebody were to make an audiophile class sound card, could a well recorded MP3 file sound good? Warren Andrew Smith wrote in part: > ...MP3's bloody suck, they sound like a turd drenched in spoiled bananna remnants... -- Santa Rosa de Copan, a great place to be -- http://www2.planeta.com/mader/planeta/0898/0898hondurosa.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Fri Oct 1 19:13:23 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 10:13:23 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Mobile Nak components.... Message-ID: Greetings! I'd like to start a thread about Nakamichi mobile cassette components. I've used an RD-450 and Nak 3-way speakers (4 of 'em) in my Honda Prelude for nearly nine years, and its all still running cleanly. What's got me thinking now is an idea to upgrade to a tuner deck and amp (lots of opportunity to find nice used units on the internet). Question - What are you others doing when its time to have maintenance/repairs? How do you maximize the sound you get from your mobile components?? I'm particularly interested to learn how many other NakTalkers use Nak mobile components in their automobiles. Please share your insights/opinions. Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Oct 1 18:31:16 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:31:16 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #58 In-Reply-To: <007101bf0bb5$50dfe5e0$519a6389@localnet> Message-ID: <000001bf0c37$879e5b20$05000006@p4v56> Andrew > MP3's bloody > suck, they sound like a turd drenched in spoiled bananna > remnants. Can we take it that you don't like MP3's, then?! Graham ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jle at lig.di.epfl.ch Fri Oct 1 20:54:55 1999 From: jle at lig.di.epfl.ch (jle) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 20:54:55 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] MP3 (was Re: naktalk-digest V1 #58) References: <199909302320.BAA06854@zebra.naks.com> <007101bf0bb5$50dfe5e0$519a6389@localnet> <37F4D67E.68578A9B@hondutel.hn> Message-ID: <37F5037F.78C40227@lig.di.epfl.ch> Well, nothing prevents people from experimenting to connect their PC lineout to their best reproduction system, it won't burn. But MPEG layer 3 is based on perceptual coding schemes created for putting CD-type frequency contents available on the Web. I believe it cannot resist the evaluation of a reasonably-trained ear. I tried myself encoding CD stuff using Layer 2 instead, which uses half the compression and, sorry to say to the well-meaning people of Fraunhofer it sounded already better (even on Workstation audio gear). So let's forget it for now, unless all you want is to go jogging with that thing plugged into your ears. -J PS: I got rid of my BX-2, and added a ZX-7 to my 682ZX, so I'm a Nak fan myself. What happened to the Tandberg 3014 comparison, BTW? Warren Post wrote: > > I agree that every MP3 I've ever heard sounds bad. I've always thought, however, that > it's a hardware problem: computer sound cards aren't designed to reproduce sounds to > our exacting standards. I would no more compare my beloved BX-125 to my made in China > sound card than I would compare a Dragon to a $25 Wal-Mart Walkman. > > If somebody were to make an audiophile class sound card, could a well recorded MP3 file > sound good? > > Warren > > Andrew Smith wrote in part: > > > ...MP3's bloody suck, they sound like a turd drenched in spoiled bananna remnants... > > -- > Santa Rosa de Copan, a great place to be -- > http://www2.planeta.com/mader/planeta/0898/0898hondurosa.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -- ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Oct 1 20:10:52 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:10:52 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette In-Reply-To: <37f41c13.4925990@mail.voicenet.com> Message-ID: <000301bf0c40$b484b720$05000006@p4v56> Come on, Mike! Let's show a wee bit more tolerance to alternative views and a willingness to listen even if we might not agree with them. Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > FabFourFan > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 03:31 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > > \\\yeah yeah yeah, please take the minidisk announcements to some > minidisk mailing list, and leave them off the naktalk mailing list. > this is not the 'things i think are better than cassettes' > voting booth, > eh? > > Mike 'today i'm the minidisk police' Patrick > > > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:54:22 EDT, you wrote: > > >TO: NAKTALK > > > >I have been a pretty big cassette recording enthusiast in > the past, but > >mainly because for a long time it was the only recording > format that could > >even be considered to be close to hi-fi that was reasonably > convenient and > >portable. > >I really liked the idea of recording *my own* music onto > cassettes, which I > >could then play in my car (where unfortunately, most of us > have the most time > >to enjoy our music). > > > >I agree with some comments made earlier that for recording > from a CD, CDR is > >probably the best, highest fidelity possible. As most of > you know, however, > >CDs surfaces are fragile (easily scratched) and really not > all that portable > >or space-effiicient. > > > >Now that I have gotten an MD player, let me tell you, this > format is the real > >stuff. Sure, blue-blood audiophiles claim that MD is not > truly 'hi-fi'; > >well, it's no secret that they have *never* considered > cassettes hi-fi > >either. In fact, only really expensive vinyl recording > equipment and CDs > >have ever been considered truly audiophile source material > by these people. > >I consider myself to be fairly critical about the sound of > the music coming > >from my sound system, and I defy any of you to consistently detect > >differences in sound quality in an a-b-x comparison between > CDs and MDs > >recorded from those CDs. When you couple this sound quality > with this > >format's portability and add track access times similar to > that of CDs, you > >have a recording format that is a clear winner. Oh, did I > mention that > >mini-discs are far, far more rugged than either CDs or cassettes? > > > >Don't get me wrong, I think the cassette has been a trusty > companion and the > >format has produced some beautiful cassette decks. But ask > anybody who has > >used both for any length of time and they will tell you that > the MD is a real > >winner and the winner between these two formats. > > > >Sincerely, > > > >David K. Nakamura > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Oct 1 21:05:09 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 20:05:09 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? In-Reply-To: <005b01bf0bbf$9bac90a0$6d2f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <000401bf0c40$b6f960a0$05000006@p4v56> Carlos True, but then, look how much those limited edition Quad II tube amps were being sold for .... there is no way the cost could be justified in terms of sound quality and in comparison with modern designed solid state or tube amps. But they've been selling anyway because of their "retro" appeal, because some people simply like to own that kind of thing, and they may een like the sounds they make, even if it isn't "state of the art". Similarly, think of how much the average record fan has to pay to get a reasonably decent (not brilliant) record deck, arm and cartridge - at least £1k, I'd say. And not only are they selling, new designs seem to appear every week in the UK hi fi magazines, and that's just for the modest UK market ... we rarely get a sniff at the exotic £20k designs that sell in the US or Japan! And we keep being told that "records are dead". Oh really? Well, may be they ain't a mass market, but there is a healthy damned niche market and people are obviously willing to pay well over £20 for a very bog standard vinyl record, not to mention £40 for something special. The point is this (and here I'm speaking as a marketeer.) What a product costs doesn't matter as much as its value people perceive it to have. Nakamichi know that better than most! Just the name of "Nakamichi" has a value and people will pay more for a Nak simply because it is a Nak. If you got Sharp to make a cassette deck and re-badged it Nakamichi, you would get a premium price on the Nakamichi and you'd probably sell more of them than a Sharp badged version at half the price. This is marketing the World over. Look at Volkswagon Group and four models of cars: Seat Toledo, VW Golf, VW Beetle (new model) and Audi 30 (I think it is.) The Seat is the cheapest, then the Golf, then the Beetle and finally the Audi is the dearest. The best spec is the Toledo, which even comes with air conditioning at the basic model price, even though it is several £k's cheaper than the VW's and Audi. However, all of those cars are basically the same thing, built on identical platforms, and their different "values" are merely perceptions, not actual, differences. People will buy the Audi simply because it IS an Audi and they believe it is a better car than the Toledo. The buyers of the Toledo know better. To use another analogy. In the States, you buy most of the Rolls Royce and Jaguar cars that are built in the UK. In the States these are prestige, luxury, upmarket cars. In the UK we buy very few of them ... because we know they are over priced and easily beaten by some of the best Japanese cars. But then, we think (as some of you guys in the States think), that Mercedes Benz cars are prestige, luxury cars; however, the guys in German know they are just taxis! Transfer this model to tape decks. For people who also want what they perceive is the best, even if it isn't the best, they will pay whatever they think is a fair price. And I am willing to bet that there is a market in Europe for Nakamichi Dragons even at $6k a go. However, Nakamichi would probably find they could not afford to make enough of a profit by manufacturing them in Japan to sell them in Europe .... but they probably could if they made them in Wales or Ireland, where labour and building costs are very low, and which are closer in proximity to Europe ... All they have to do is send the parts and factories over here could assemble them. That, of course, is what Hitachi and Sony (to name just two Japanese makers, and a host of other Japanese car makers, have been doing for some time. And here is Nakamichi, hawking an £800 deck in the UK that doesn't even have az' adjust ... Over priced? I'll bet it is! Especially when you consider that mint condition secondhand Dragons can be bought over here for about £200 more. But I also bet they'll sell every one of the beggars almost as soon as they hit the shops to guys like those who frequent this forum. That's fine by me, of course, I too want a Nak (tho' none of you guys is generous enough to give me one!) I want one not because I think it is THE best, but because it is a legend, because the older machines especially have a kind of special feel about them. Know what I mean? Hell, that's why I bought, and use, my Goldring Lenco record deck - it doesn't (on the whole) sound better than the Pink Triangle ... but it "feels" better, it's more interesting to look at and play about with. It's substantial, it clunks, it's temperamental, it's everything a state of the art record deck isn't, but that's why I like it. It's also why I own and use a Quad 44 and 402 pair of amps - it's old solid state technology but I happen toi like the sound and, best of all, the feel and smell of old hi fi kit of that quality. However, I'm drifting widely off the point! (Sorry guys!) To get back to the point: If there is no market for cassette machines now (which I dispute anyway) it is simply because the machines have not been "positioned" in a way that makes them more appealing. And, of course, the big manufacturers aren't interested in selling them anyway because they want us to buy their new technology as the software is only available at huge, hiked up prices, at least double that of the (probably dearer to make?) humble cassette! So, in my (also humble) opinion, I reckon there is a gap in the market that could be filled by some enterprising businessman, in "retro", "reproduction" and "limited edition" builds of classic hi fi models, not least some of the most cherished Nakamichi cassette decks. So, why aren't I doing it? For the same reason I keep begging for a free Nak machine - no money! Graham > > Good ! John and Graham maybe has just begun a revolution. > But, do you have a > single idea how much would cost to manufacture a 700 ZXL or 1000 ZXL > nowadays ? In those years the retail price for the first was > $3,000 and > $3,600 for the last. Plus, the small number to be produced > will make the > price higher. I calculate that if a Dragon still be made by > now, it would > easily cost $3,000 + . A 1000 ZXL or 700 ZXL ? Oughh! over > $5,000 !!!!!! > > Carlos > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Oct 1 21:51:48 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:51:48 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette References: <000301bf0c40$b484b720$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <001d01bf0c46$6655b440$262f2ac4@coqui.net> Sorry, but I have to agree with Graham. Let us all learn to listen to other opinions since that is what make a list more interesting. Fanatism is not healthy. Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Nelson To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:10 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > Come on, Mike! Let's show a wee bit more tolerance to alternative views and > a willingness to listen even if we might not agree with them. > > Graham > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > FabFourFan > > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 03:31 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > > > > > \\\yeah yeah yeah, please take the minidisk announcements to some > > minidisk mailing list, and leave them off the naktalk mailing list. > > this is not the 'things i think are better than cassettes' > > voting booth, > > eh? > > > > Mike 'today i'm the minidisk police' Patrick > > > > > > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:54:22 EDT, you wrote: > > > > >TO: NAKTALK > > > > > >I have been a pretty big cassette recording enthusiast in > > the past, but > > >mainly because for a long time it was the only recording > > format that could > > >even be considered to be close to hi-fi that was reasonably > > convenient and > > >portable. > > >I really liked the idea of recording *my own* music onto > > cassettes, which I > > >could then play in my car (where unfortunately, most of us > > have the most time > > >to enjoy our music). > > > > > >I agree with some comments made earlier that for recording > > from a CD, CDR is > > >probably the best, highest fidelity possible. As most of > > you know, however, > > >CDs surfaces are fragile (easily scratched) and really not > > all that portable > > >or space-effiicient. > > > > > >Now that I have gotten an MD player, let me tell you, this > > format is the real > > >stuff. Sure, blue-blood audiophiles claim that MD is not > > truly 'hi-fi'; > > >well, it's no secret that they have *never* considered > > cassettes hi-fi > > >either. In fact, only really expensive vinyl recording > > equipment and CDs > > >have ever been considered truly audiophile source material > > by these people. > > >I consider myself to be fairly critical about the sound of > > the music coming > > >from my sound system, and I defy any of you to consistently detect > > >differences in sound quality in an a-b-x comparison between > > CDs and MDs > > >recorded from those CDs. When you couple this sound quality > > with this > > >format's portability and add track access times similar to > > that of CDs, you > > >have a recording format that is a clear winner. Oh, did I > > mention that > > >mini-discs are far, far more rugged than either CDs or cassettes? > > > > > >Don't get me wrong, I think the cassette has been a trusty > > companion and the > > >format has produced some beautiful cassette decks. But ask > > anybody who has > > >used both for any length of time and they will tell you that > > the MD is a real > > >winner and the winner between these two formats. > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > > > >David K. Nakamura > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > > Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------========= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Oct 1 21:54:16 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:54:16 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Intro to NAKTalk and NAKTree References: <199910011302.PAA09999@zebra.naks.com> <002301bf0c26$a4fe8f20$0501a8c0@jw> Message-ID: <002b01bf0c46$beb15540$262f2ac4@coqui.net> Welcome aboard ! Expect the " Welcome Package " soon ! The tape man ----- Original Message ----- From: J W Norris To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 12:04 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Intro to NAKTalk and NAKTree > Carlos, > > My address is: > > J W Norris > c/o Pacific Lighting Sales, Inc. > 23666 Birtcher Drive, Suite 100 > Lake Forest, CA 92630 > > Thanks, > > J W > > > Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:42:41 -0400 > > From: "Carlos" > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Intro to NAKTalk and NAKTree > > > > Sure you can participate and welcome aboard ! Just in case, let me know > your > > address. > > > > Carlos > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Oct 1 22:05:50 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:05:50 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Mobile Nak components.... References: Message-ID: <004501bf0c48$5e030ca0$262f2ac4@coqui.net> I'm a user of a Nakamichi mobile with the old 7 disc changer. Blaunpunkt combo speakers (2) 3 woofers from JL Audio and Rockford amps. I maintain the cassette deck with an auto cassette cleaner and always used good quality audio lines and power cables instead of stock ones (hardware style ). Because of my amps, I also have a capacitor to help my battery with the load. This car won < Best High Fidelity Sound > prize in the second annual Association of Ceiba's Businessman car show last year. The Tape Man ----- Original Message ----- From: The BlueSwapper To: Cc: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 1:13 PM Subject: [naktalk] Mobile Nak components.... > Greetings! I'd like to start a thread about Nakamichi mobile cassette components. I've used an RD-450 and Nak 3-way speakers (4 of 'em) in my Honda Prelude for nearly nine years, and its all still running cleanly. What's got me thinking now is an idea to upgrade to a tuner deck and amp (lots of opportunity to find nice used units on the internet). > > Question - What are you others doing when its time to have maintenance/repairs? How do you maximize the sound you get from your mobile components?? I'm particularly interested to learn how many other NakTalkers use Nak mobile components in their automobiles. Please share your insights/opinions. > > Blues > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Oct 1 22:12:13 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:12:13 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! Message-ID: <005301bf0c49$405c4d00$262f2ac4@coqui.net> Hey fellows ! The Nak Tree is finally taking off ! Thanks to my "nephew" Blues that is in charge of the Tree public relations. As soon as I received the "Cream" tape, I'll take it to my San Juan's mastering facilities and make the proper adjustments and editing (if needed) . Public thanks to Mr. Blues for sharing this classic. Tapes will be available by the end of the month. All interested should contact Mr. Blues. Best regards, The Tape Man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Oct 1 22:34:44 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 16:34:44 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? References: <000401bf0c40$b6f960a0$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <001101bf0c4c$657e7f60$262f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Nelson To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 3:05 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? > To get back to the point: If there is no market for cassette machines now > (which I dispute anyway) it is simply because the machines have not been > "positioned" in a way that makes them more appealing. And, of course, the > big manufacturers aren't interested in selling them anyway because they want > us to buy their new technology as the software is only available at huge, > hiked up prices, at least double that of the (probably dearer to make?) > humble cassette! So, in my (also humble) opinion, I reckon there is a gap > in the market that could be filled by some enterprising businessman, in > "retro", "reproduction" and "limited edition" builds of classic hi fi > models, not least some of the most cherished Nakamichi cassette decks. > > So, why aren't I doing it? For the same reason I keep begging for a free > Nak machine - no money! > > Graham > My dear friend Graham: I just hope that the market would feel only 25% of what you feel for the cassette ! It would help me make more money to add more Naks to my already big collection ! I remember when we use to work 24 hours a day in the rush season making cassettes. Now is hardly 8 hours and perhaps 2 shifts in the rush season. NO, I don't see any hope for the cassette or Nakamichi re-issueing their " legends " because it is too crazy expensive. A turntable is very simple compare to a complex deck like a 1000 ZXL, for example. That's why is not easy, Graham. Is not just taking a motor, base, plinth and arm and that's it. It is far much more than that. And even if they re-issue them is not gonna be a shadow of what they use to be. You mentioned low labor cost and that means more mass production and less hands on quality. Is not a secret that the best Naks were those built in Japan, after that, it was another story and sound. Today at my factory my mother (comptroller ! ) told me : " I think the cassette is gonna live more than 5 years cause there're too many decks out there and CD's are expensive for some people " Unfortunately, a cassette doesn't cost $7.00 anymore. They're over $10.00 already and that is simply ridiculous. I manufacture cassettes and I swear that I have never bought a commercial cassette in my life ! Simply because the LP sounds better and it was fun making my own cassettes. Now with the CD it's even more critical. Anyway, let's see what happens. Who knows if the cassette makes a revival 10 years from now. I simply doubt it ! Even if I have money to do that, I wouldn't expend $6,000 in a cassette deck. The Tape Man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From autofile at TheAutophile.com Fri Oct 1 22:37:41 1999 From: autofile at TheAutophile.com (Peter Lufrano) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 13:37:41 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Mobile Nak components.... In-Reply-To: <004501bf0c48$5e030ca0$262f2ac4@coqui.net> References: <004501bf0c48$5e030ca0$262f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: > > > Greetings! I'd like to start a thread about Nakamichi mobile cassette >components. I've used an RD-450 and Nak 3-way speakers (4 of 'em) in my >Honda Prelude for nearly nine years, and its all still running cleanly. >What's got me thinking now is an idea to upgrade to a tuner deck and amp >(lots of opportunity to find nice used units on the internet). > > > > Question - What are you others doing when its time to have >maintenance/repairs? How do you maximize the sound you get from your mobile >components?? I'm particularly interested to learn how many other NakTalkers >use Nak mobile components in their automobiles. Please share your >insights/opinions. > > > > Blues I use a TP1200 AM/FM/Tuner controller and MF51 changer in my car system. Wonderful head unit..... Peter Lufrano -Owner The Autophile http://www.TheAutophile.com ***High End Car Audio!*** *Dynaudio*a/d/s*Genesis*Milbert*Velodyne*Kimber Kable*ZAPCO* *TubeDriver*Linear Power*Powerclass*Focal*CD Technologies* ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bochar at epix.net Fri Oct 1 22:52:12 1999 From: bochar at epix.net (bob) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 16:52:12 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! References: <005301bf0c49$405c4d00$262f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <37F51EFC.67646733@epix.net> how does the nak tree work... jargon on tape swaps throws me for a loop, bob Carlos wrote: > > Hey fellows ! > > The Nak Tree is finally taking off ! Thanks to my "nephew" Blues that is in > charge of the Tree public relations. As soon as I received the "Cream" tape, > I'll take it to my San Juan's mastering facilities and make the proper > adjustments and editing (if needed) . > > Public thanks to Mr. Blues for sharing this classic. Tapes will be available > by the end of the month. All interested should contact Mr. Blues. > > Best regards, > > The Tape Man > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Fri Oct 1 22:59:27 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 06:59:27 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] MP3 (was Re: naktalk-digest V1 #58) References: <199909302320.BAA06854@zebra.naks.com> <007101bf0bb5$50dfe5e0$519a6389@localnet> <37F4D67E.68578A9B@hondutel.hn> Message-ID: <37F520AE.69D3052@ozemail.com.au> Warren Post wrote:>If somebody were to make an audiophile class sound card, could a well recorded MP3 file sound good?< No. John H ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From aborgman at ichips.intel.com Fri Oct 1 23:06:15 1999 From: aborgman at ichips.intel.com (Aaron Borgman) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:06:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [naktalk] MP3 (was Re: naktalk-digest V1 #58) In-Reply-To: <37F520AE.69D3052@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: On Sat, 2 Oct 1999, mdhjwh wrote: > > > Warren Post wrote:>If somebody were to make an audiophile class sound card, could a well > recorded MP3 file sound good?< > No. > John H I would have to disagree. While MP3 is a lossy compression, and will never sound as good as CD, you can get very good results with a good soundcard (Event makes some pretty nice ones) and a high bit rate on the compression. Aaron Borgman CRU Timing Tiger aborgman at ichips.intel.com RA2-4 Pole J9 phone: 613-3714 Disclaimer: All above opinions are mine... not Intel's ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Fri Oct 1 23:17:21 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 07:17:21 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? References: <000401bf0c40$b6f960a0$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <37F524E0.C4142F14@ozemail.com.au> Graham Nelson wrote:>Similarly, think of how much the average record fan has to pay to get a reasonably decent (not brilliant) record deck, arm and cartridge - at least< I guess you are referring to LP decks here. Many reasonably priced British decks are not expensive, even though (Rega Planar 2 for example) the price of state of the art turntables has gone through the ceiling. This isn't the place to discuss my favorite hobby - - those interested may like to have a look at http://www.soundstage.com/vinyl/ John H > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sat Oct 2 01:49:19 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 19:49:19 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! References: <005301bf0c49$405c4d00$262f2ac4@coqui.net> <37F51EFC.67646733@epix.net> Message-ID: <000f01bf0c67$948a0020$a52f2ac4@coqui.net> Did you receive the Nak Tree Document ? If not, let me know. Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: bob To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! > > how does the nak tree work... > jargon on tape swaps throws me for a loop, > bob > Carlos wrote: > > > > Hey fellows ! > > > > The Nak Tree is finally taking off ! Thanks to my "nephew" Blues that is in > > charge of the Tree public relations. As soon as I received the "Cream" tape, > > I'll take it to my San Juan's mastering facilities and make the proper > > adjustments and editing (if needed) . > > > > Public thanks to Mr. Blues for sharing this classic. Tapes will be available > > by the end of the month. All interested should contact Mr. Blues. > > > > Best regards, > > > > The Tape Man > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Sat Oct 2 02:07:16 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 10:07:16 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] MP3 (was Re: naktalk-digest V1 #58) References: Message-ID: <37F54CB4.6BB825A@ozemail.com.au> With the coming advent of high bit rate transmission, compression will itself become an obsolete technology. Solid state high sampling rate memory will kill of CD, DVD.MD.MP3 within the next 5 years. I'll still be playing my 7,455 LPs and probably recording some of them onto whatever technology sounds best. Another possibility is that advances in micro engineering will produce a high density analogue format. Whatever happens I doubt that any of us can accurately predict the outcomes -one thing I'm sure of though is that the multinationals will manage to sell us many more 'perfect' formats only to declare them obsolete soon after. Meanwhile I'm blissfully happy with the music that washes. over me from my turntable and Dragon,only every now and then bothering with my Rotel CD971 On thing will never change for me though, and that is the beauty of the old 12" LP cover. I imagine the day when I'm using a new recording technology I'll still keep the LP covers . ( Even now some collect them like stamps without the LPs themselves.) When I'm being wildly optimistic,however, I pray for a new Dragon with digital indexing and track access. Hail Fellow Nakamaniacs John H ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From HerbChong at compuserve.com Sat Oct 2 04:06:59 1999 From: HerbChong at compuserve.com (Herb Chong) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:06:59 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] MP3 (was Re: naktalk-digest V1 #58) Message-ID: <199910012207_MC2-875E-F110@compuserve.com> what do you consider audiophile class? the semipro recording/playback devices for HD recording are mostly really good, but not cheap either. the better ones are completely digital and depend on outboard hardware (e.g. DAT) to do D to A conversion. Herb... ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mpatrick at voicenet.com Sat Oct 2 04:17:33 1999 From: mpatrick at voicenet.com (FabFourFan) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 02:17:33 GMT Subject: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette In-Reply-To: <001d01bf0c46$6655b440$262f2ac4@coqui.net> References: <000301bf0c40$b484b720$05000006@p4v56> <001d01bf0c46$6655b440$262f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <37f56a18.2273824@mail.voicenet.com> Hey, guys, I am plenty tolerant (honest!) but I don't think that those other issues belong in naktalk. Consider this: What kind of response would one expect if I went to a minidisk mailing list and offered to explain to them why my nak sounds better then their crummy minidisks? I think that they would tell me to get lost, and not very politely, either. So, please understand that I am happy to discuss many things, just not all here on naktalk. Thanks for your time. Mike On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:51:48 -0400, you wrote: >Sorry, but I have to agree with Graham. Let us all learn to listen to other >opinions since that is what make a list more interesting. >Fanatism is not healthy. > >Carlos > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Graham Nelson >To: >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:10 PM >Subject: RE: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > >> Come on, Mike! Let's show a wee bit more tolerance to alternative views >and >> a willingness to listen even if we might not agree with them. >> >> Graham >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com >> > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of >> > FabFourFan >> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 03:31 >> > To: naktalk at naks.com >> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette >> > >> > >> > \\\yeah yeah yeah, please take the minidisk announcements to some >> > minidisk mailing list, and leave them off the naktalk mailing list. >> > this is not the 'things i think are better than cassettes' >> > voting booth, >> > eh? >> > >> > Mike 'today i'm the minidisk police' Patrick >> > >> > >> > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:54:22 EDT, you wrote: >> > >> > >TO: NAKTALK >> > > >> > >I have been a pretty big cassette recording enthusiast in >> > the past, but >> > >mainly because for a long time it was the only recording >> > format that could >> > >even be considered to be close to hi-fi that was reasonably >> > convenient and >> > >portable. >> > >I really liked the idea of recording *my own* music onto >> > cassettes, which I >> > >could then play in my car (where unfortunately, most of us >> > have the most time >> > >to enjoy our music). >> > > >> > >I agree with some comments made earlier that for recording >> > from a CD, CDR is >> > >probably the best, highest fidelity possible. As most of >> > you know, however, >> > >CDs surfaces are fragile (easily scratched) and really not >> > all that portable >> > >or space-effiicient. >> > > >> > >Now that I have gotten an MD player, let me tell you, this >> > format is the real >> > >stuff. Sure, blue-blood audiophiles claim that MD is not >> > truly 'hi-fi'; >> > >well, it's no secret that they have *never* considered >> > cassettes hi-fi >> > >either. In fact, only really expensive vinyl recording >> > equipment and CDs >> > >have ever been considered truly audiophile source material >> > by these people. >> > >I consider myself to be fairly critical about the sound of >> > the music coming >> > >from my sound system, and I defy any of you to consistently detect >> > >differences in sound quality in an a-b-x comparison between >> > CDs and MDs >> > >recorded from those CDs. When you couple this sound quality >> > with this >> > >format's portability and add track access times similar to >> > that of CDs, you >> > >have a recording format that is a clear winner. Oh, did I >> > mention that >> > >mini-discs are far, far more rugged than either CDs or cassettes? >> > > >> > >Don't get me wrong, I think the cassette has been a trusty >> > companion and the >> > >format has produced some beautiful cassette decks. But ask >> > anybody who has >> > >used both for any length of time and they will tell you that >> > the MD is a real >> > >winner and the winner between these two formats. >> > > >> > >Sincerely, >> > > >> > >David K. Nakamura >> > >> > ========------------------------------------------------------ >> > ------------========= >> > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi >> > Cassette Deck resource. >> > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK >> > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> > >> > ========------------------------------------------------------ >> > ------------========= >> > >> >> >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= >> >> > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mpatrick at voicenet.com Sat Oct 2 04:18:08 1999 From: mpatrick at voicenet.com (FabFourFan) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 02:18:08 GMT Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #58 In-Reply-To: <000001bf0c37$879e5b20$05000006@p4v56> References: <000001bf0c37$879e5b20$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <37f66b55.2590619@mail.voicenet.com> On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:31:16 +0100, you wrote: >Andrew > > > >> MP3's bloody >> suck, they sound like a turd drenched in spoiled bananna >> remnants. > >Can we take it that you don't like MP3's, then?! > >Graham ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From texan at mail.com Sat Oct 2 04:40:22 1999 From: texan at mail.com (texan) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 21:40:22 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! References: <005301bf0c49$405c4d00$262f2ac4@coqui.net> <37F51EFC.67646733@epix.net> <000f01bf0c67$948a0020$a52f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <006c01bf0c7f$7dee1c80$7903ffcc@gregsown> Hi, I'm new to the group, where can i also get the Nak Tree Document? Greg ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 6:49 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! > Did you receive the Nak Tree Document ? If not, let me know. > > Carlos > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bob > To: > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 4:52 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! > > > > > > how does the nak tree work... > > jargon on tape swaps throws me for a loop, > > bob > > Carlos wrote: > > > > > > Hey fellows ! > > > > > > The Nak Tree is finally taking off ! Thanks to my "nephew" Blues that is > in > > > charge of the Tree public relations. As soon as I received the "Cream" > tape, > > > I'll take it to my San Juan's mastering facilities and make the proper > > > adjustments and editing (if needed) . > > > > > > Public thanks to Mr. Blues for sharing this classic. Tapes will be > available > > > by the end of the month. All interested should contact Mr. Blues. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > The Tape Man > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From targowski at mediaone.net Sat Oct 2 04:51:08 1999 From: targowski at mediaone.net (targowski) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 21:51:08 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... References: <000301bf0c40$b484b720$05000006@p4v56> <001d01bf0c46$6655b440$262f2ac4@coqui.net> <37f56a18.2273824@mail.voicenet.com> Message-ID: <37F5731C.F192A844@mediaone.net> Here is my question ... Your favorite band, your favorite performer, your favorite opera soprano/tenor or philharmonic orchestra plays the song/overture/symphony of their life/career. OK, jazz, rock, europop, fill out the blanks ... On site, you have the state of the art (SOTA), or cutting edge (CE) teams recording the concert: (1) the best Telarc, Chesky, Deutsche Gramophon, EMI can get to produce a DDD CD (2) the best Nakamichi team has to produce a traditional cassette using the best tape you can think of ... (3) the best Linn, Nakamichi, xxxxxx, you name it, has to produce a traditional vinyl has (4) the best from Revox, Tandberg, UHER/Kudelski - to produce a reel-to-reel. (5) the best team from SONY to produce MD (6) the best from internet there is to produce MP3 file. (7) the best from Phillips/Matsushita to produce DCC (8) other (but not anything digital beyond 16 bit CD with 44.1 sampling rate.) Question - which one do you choose??? Remember, this is a historic concert. You need to have the best copy of it that there exists. At the end of the concert you are presented with a (1) DDD CD - the best there is, (2) TDK/Maxell. ... - the best cassette there is .... , etc. I choose option (1) a DDD CD. Please be honest. Don't give us this 'my Nak BX-150 with TDK OD-90 circa 1983, and Dolby B @ +2db taht I got from a friend of my sister's is better than the rest' ... Or., my TEAC xxx or Reovx 77xx has capability to record 95 tracks... Just the bottom line. Honest. Please ... Stan FabFourFan wrote: > Hey, guys, I am plenty tolerant (honest!) but I don't think that those > other issues belong in naktalk. > > Consider this: What kind of response would one expect if I went to a > minidisk mailing list and offered to explain to them why my nak sounds > better then their crummy minidisks? > > I think that they would tell me to get lost, and not very politely, > either. > > So, please understand that I am happy to discuss many things, just not > all here on naktalk. > > Thanks for your time. > > Mike > > On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:51:48 -0400, you wrote: > > >Sorry, but I have to agree with Graham. Let us all learn to listen to other > >opinions since that is what make a list more interesting. > >Fanatism is not healthy. > > > >Carlos > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Graham Nelson > >To: > >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:10 PM > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > > > > >> Come on, Mike! Let's show a wee bit more tolerance to alternative views > >and > >> a willingness to listen even if we might not agree with them. > >> > >> Graham > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > >> > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > >> > FabFourFan > >> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 03:31 > >> > To: naktalk at naks.com > >> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > >> > > >> > > >> > \\\yeah yeah yeah, please take the minidisk announcements to some > >> > minidisk mailing list, and leave them off the naktalk mailing list. > >> > this is not the 'things i think are better than cassettes' > >> > voting booth, > >> > eh? > >> > > >> > Mike 'today i'm the minidisk police' Patrick > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:54:22 EDT, you wrote: > >> > > >> > >TO: NAKTALK > >> > > > >> > >I have been a pretty big cassette recording enthusiast in > >> > the past, but > >> > >mainly because for a long time it was the only recording > >> > format that could > >> > >even be considered to be close to hi-fi that was reasonably > >> > convenient and > >> > >portable. > >> > >I really liked the idea of recording *my own* music onto > >> > cassettes, which I > >> > >could then play in my car (where unfortunately, most of us > >> > have the most time > >> > >to enjoy our music). > >> > > > >> > >I agree with some comments made earlier that for recording > >> > from a CD, CDR is > >> > >probably the best, highest fidelity possible. As most of > >> > you know, however, > >> > >CDs surfaces are fragile (easily scratched) and really not > >> > all that portable > >> > >or space-effiicient. > >> > > > >> > >Now that I have gotten an MD player, let me tell you, this > >> > format is the real > >> > >stuff. Sure, blue-blood audiophiles claim that MD is not > >> > truly 'hi-fi'; > >> > >well, it's no secret that they have *never* considered > >> > cassettes hi-fi > >> > >either. In fact, only really expensive vinyl recording > >> > equipment and CDs > >> > >have ever been considered truly audiophile source material > >> > by these people. > >> > >I consider myself to be fairly critical about the sound of > >> > the music coming > >> > >from my sound system, and I defy any of you to consistently detect > >> > >differences in sound quality in an a-b-x comparison between > >> > CDs and MDs > >> > >recorded from those CDs. When you couple this sound quality > >> > with this > >> > >format's portability and add track access times similar to > >> > that of CDs, you > >> > >have a recording format that is a clear winner. Oh, did I > >> > mention that > >> > >mini-discs are far, far more rugged than either CDs or cassettes? > >> > > > >> > >Don't get me wrong, I think the cassette has been a trusty > >> > companion and the > >> > >format has produced some beautiful cassette decks. But ask > >> > anybody who has > >> > >used both for any length of time and they will tell you that > >> > the MD is a real > >> > >winner and the winner between these two formats. > >> > > > >> > >Sincerely, > >> > > > >> > >David K. Nakamura > >> > > >> > ========------------------------------------------------------ > >> > ------------========= > >> > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > >> > Cassette Deck resource. > >> > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > >> > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >> > > >> > ========------------------------------------------------------ > >> > ------------========= > >> > > >> > >> > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== > >======= > >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >> > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== > >======= > >> > >> > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From pknapp at bbnow.net Sat Oct 2 05:31:35 1999 From: pknapp at bbnow.net (P Knapp) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 22:31:35 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... References: <000301bf0c40$b484b720$05000006@p4v56> <001d01bf0c46$6655b440$262f2ac4@coqui.net> <37f56a18.2273824@mail.voicenet.com> <37F5731C.F192A844@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <002101bf0c86$a12264c0$4307db18@dfw.tx.i3s.net> I'll take option 4 - the reel to reel. You can hv yr cd. ----- Original Message ----- From: targowski To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 9:51 PM Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... > Here is my question ... > > Your favorite band, your favorite performer, your favorite opera soprano/tenor or > philharmonic orchestra plays the song/overture/symphony of their life/career. OK, jazz, > rock, europop, fill out the blanks ... > > On site, you have the state of the art (SOTA), or cutting edge (CE) teams recording the > concert: > (1) the best Telarc, Chesky, Deutsche Gramophon, EMI can get to produce a DDD CD > (2) the best Nakamichi team has to produce a traditional cassette using the best tape > you can think of ... > (3) the best Linn, Nakamichi, xxxxxx, you name it, has to produce a traditional vinyl > has > (4) the best from Revox, Tandberg, UHER/Kudelski - to produce a reel-to-reel. > (5) the best team from SONY to produce MD > (6) the best from internet there is to produce MP3 file. > (7) the best from Phillips/Matsushita to produce DCC > (8) other (but not anything digital beyond 16 bit CD with 44.1 sampling rate.) > > Question - which one do you choose??? Remember, this is a historic concert. You need to > have the best copy of it that there exists. At the end of the concert you are presented > with a (1) DDD CD - the best there is, (2) TDK/Maxell. ... - the best cassette there is > .... , etc. > > I choose option (1) a DDD CD. > > Please be honest. Don't give us this 'my Nak BX-150 with TDK OD-90 circa 1983, and Dolby > B @ +2db taht I got from a friend of my sister's is better than the rest' ... Or., my > TEAC xxx or Reovx 77xx has capability to record 95 tracks... Just the bottom line. > Honest. Please ... > > Stan > > > FabFourFan wrote: > > > Hey, guys, I am plenty tolerant (honest!) but I don't think that those > > other issues belong in naktalk. > > > > Consider this: What kind of response would one expect if I went to a > > minidisk mailing list and offered to explain to them why my nak sounds > > better then their crummy minidisks? > > > > I think that they would tell me to get lost, and not very politely, > > either. > > > > So, please understand that I am happy to discuss many things, just not > > all here on naktalk. > > > > Thanks for your time. > > > > Mike > > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:51:48 -0400, you wrote: > > > > >Sorry, but I have to agree with Graham. Let us all learn to listen to other > > >opinions since that is what make a list more interesting. > > >Fanatism is not healthy. > > > > > >Carlos > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Graham Nelson > > >To: > > >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:10 PM > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > > > > > > > >> Come on, Mike! Let's show a wee bit more tolerance to alternative views > > >and > > >> a willingness to listen even if we might not agree with them. > > >> > > >> Graham > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > >> > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > >> > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > >> > FabFourFan > > >> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 03:31 > > >> > To: naktalk at naks.com > > >> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > \\\yeah yeah yeah, please take the minidisk announcements to some > > >> > minidisk mailing list, and leave them off the naktalk mailing list. > > >> > this is not the 'things i think are better than cassettes' > > >> > voting booth, > > >> > eh? > > >> > > > >> > Mike 'today i'm the minidisk police' Patrick > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:54:22 EDT, you wrote: > > >> > > > >> > >TO: NAKTALK > > >> > > > > >> > >I have been a pretty big cassette recording enthusiast in > > >> > the past, but > > >> > >mainly because for a long time it was the only recording > > >> > format that could > > >> > >even be considered to be close to hi-fi that was reasonably > > >> > convenient and > > >> > >portable. > > >> > >I really liked the idea of recording *my own* music onto > > >> > cassettes, which I > > >> > >could then play in my car (where unfortunately, most of us > > >> > have the most time > > >> > >to enjoy our music). > > >> > > > > >> > >I agree with some comments made earlier that for recording > > >> > from a CD, CDR is > > >> > >probably the best, highest fidelity possible. As most of > > >> > you know, however, > > >> > >CDs surfaces are fragile (easily scratched) and really not > > >> > all that portable > > >> > >or space-effiicient. > > >> > > > > >> > >Now that I have gotten an MD player, let me tell you, this > > >> > format is the real > > >> > >stuff. Sure, blue-blood audiophiles claim that MD is not > > >> > truly 'hi-fi'; > > >> > >well, it's no secret that they have *never* considered > > >> > cassettes hi-fi > > >> > >either. In fact, only really expensive vinyl recording > > >> > equipment and CDs > > >> > >have ever been considered truly audiophile source material > > >> > by these people. > > >> > >I consider myself to be fairly critical about the sound of > > >> > the music coming > > >> > >from my sound system, and I defy any of you to consistently detect > > >> > >differences in sound quality in an a-b-x comparison between > > >> > CDs and MDs > > >> > >recorded from those CDs. When you couple this sound quality > > >> > with this > > >> > >format's portability and add track access times similar to > > >> > that of CDs, you > > >> > >have a recording format that is a clear winner. Oh, did I > > >> > mention that > > >> > >mini-discs are far, far more rugged than either CDs or cassettes? > > >> > > > > >> > >Don't get me wrong, I think the cassette has been a trusty > > >> > companion and the > > >> > >format has produced some beautiful cassette decks. But ask > > >> > anybody who has > > >> > >used both for any length of time and they will tell you that > > >> > the MD is a real > > >> > >winner and the winner between these two formats. > > >> > > > > >> > >Sincerely, > > >> > > > > >> > >David K. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From brianwinans at hotmail.com Sat Oct 2 12:01:10 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 03:01:10 PDT Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... Message-ID: <19991002100110.17890.qmail@hotmail.com> You would have to go with number 4. From reel to reel, you get the best sound quality. Then you can transfer to any media you prefer. Brian >From: targowski >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... >Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 21:51:08 -0500 > >Here is my question ... > >Your favorite band, your favorite performer, your favorite opera >soprano/tenor or >philharmonic orchestra plays the song/overture/symphony of their >life/career. OK, jazz, >rock, europop, fill out the blanks ... > >On site, you have the state of the art (SOTA), or cutting edge (CE) teams >recording the >concert: >(1) the best Telarc, Chesky, Deutsche Gramophon, EMI can get to produce a >DDD CD >(2) the best Nakamichi team has to produce a traditional cassette using the >best tape >you can think of ... >(3) the best Linn, Nakamichi, xxxxxx, you name it, has to produce a >traditional vinyl >has >(4) the best from Revox, Tandberg, UHER/Kudelski - to produce a >reel-to-reel. >(5) the best team from SONY to produce MD >(6) the best from internet there is to produce MP3 file. >(7) the best from Phillips/Matsushita to produce DCC >(8) other (but not anything digital beyond 16 bit CD with 44.1 sampling >rate.) > >Question - which one do you choose??? Remember, this is a historic concert. >You need to >have the best copy of it that there exists. At the end of the concert you >are presented >with a (1) DDD CD - the best there is, (2) TDK/Maxell. ... - the best >cassette there is >.... , etc. > >I choose option (1) a DDD CD. > >Please be honest. Don't give us this 'my Nak BX-150 with TDK OD-90 circa >1983, and Dolby >B @ +2db taht I got from a friend of my sister's is better than the rest' >... Or., my >TEAC xxx or Reovx 77xx has capability to record 95 tracks... Just the >bottom line. >Honest. Please ... > >Stan > > >FabFourFan wrote: > > > Hey, guys, I am plenty tolerant (honest!) but I don't think that those > > other issues belong in naktalk. > > > > Consider this: What kind of response would one expect if I went to a > > minidisk mailing list and offered to explain to them why my nak sounds > > better then their crummy minidisks? > > > > I think that they would tell me to get lost, and not very politely, > > either. > > > > So, please understand that I am happy to discuss many things, just not > > all here on naktalk. > > > > Thanks for your time. > > > > Mike > > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:51:48 -0400, you wrote: > > > > >Sorry, but I have to agree with Graham. Let us all learn to listen to >other > > >opinions since that is what make a list more interesting. > > >Fanatism is not healthy. > > > > > >Carlos > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Graham Nelson > > >To: > > >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:10 PM > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > > > > > > > >> Come on, Mike! Let's show a wee bit more tolerance to alternative >views > > >and > > >> a willingness to listen even if we might not agree with them. > > >> > > >> Graham > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > >> > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > >> > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > >> > FabFourFan > > >> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 03:31 > > >> > To: naktalk at naks.com > > >> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > \\\yeah yeah yeah, please take the minidisk announcements to some > > >> > minidisk mailing list, and leave them off the naktalk mailing list. > > >> > this is not the 'things i think are better than cassettes' > > >> > voting booth, > > >> > eh? > > >> > > > >> > Mike 'today i'm the minidisk police' Patrick > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:54:22 EDT, you wrote: > > >> > > > >> > >TO: NAKTALK > > >> > > > > >> > >I have been a pretty big cassette recording enthusiast in > > >> > the past, but > > >> > >mainly because for a long time it was the only recording > > >> > format that could > > >> > >even be considered to be close to hi-fi that was reasonably > > >> > convenient and > > >> > >portable. > > >> > >I really liked the idea of recording *my own* music onto > > >> > cassettes, which I > > >> > >could then play in my car (where unfortunately, most of us > > >> > have the most time > > >> > >to enjoy our music). > > >> > > > > >> > >I agree with some comments made earlier that for recording > > >> > from a CD, CDR is > > >> > >probably the best, highest fidelity possible. As most of > > >> > you know, however, > > >> > >CDs surfaces are fragile (easily scratched) and really not > > >> > all that portable > > >> > >or space-effiicient. > > >> > > > > >> > >Now that I have gotten an MD player, let me tell you, this > > >> > format is the real > > >> > >stuff. Sure, blue-blood audiophiles claim that MD is not > > >> > truly 'hi-fi'; > > >> > >well, it's no secret that they have *never* considered > > >> > cassettes hi-fi > > >> > >either. In fact, only really expensive vinyl recording > > >> > equipment and CDs > > >> > >have ever been considered truly audiophile source material > > >> > by these people. > > >> > >I consider myself to be fairly critical about the sound of > > >> > the music coming > > >> > >from my sound system, and I defy any of you to consistently detect > > >> > >differences in sound quality in an a-b-x comparison between > > >> > CDs and MDs > > >> > >recorded from those CDs. When you couple this sound quality > > >> > with this > > >> > >format's portability and add track access times similar to > > >> > that of CDs, you > > >> > >have a recording format that is a clear winner. Oh, did I > > >> > mention that > > >> > >mini-discs are far, far more rugged than either CDs or cassettes? > > >> > > > > >> > >Don't get me wrong, I think the cassette has been a trusty > > >> > companion and the > > >> > >format has produced some beautiful cassette decks. But ask > > >> > anybody who has > > >> > >used both for any length of time and they will tell you that > > >> > the MD is a real > > >> > >winner and the winner between these two formats. > > >> > > > > >> > >Sincerely, > > >> > > > > >> > >David K. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sat Oct 2 13:15:17 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 07:15:17 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... References: <000301bf0c40$b484b720$05000006@p4v56> <001d01bf0c46$6655b440$262f2ac4@coqui.net> <37f56a18.2273824@mail.voicenet.com> <37F5731C.F192A844@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <003d01bf0cc7$68de7d60$552f2ac4@coqui.net> I take the Reel to reel on a Revox 1/2" A-80 at 30 ips or at 15 ips with Dolby SR. The Tape Man ----- Original Message ----- From: targowski To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:51 PM Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... > Here is my question ... > > Your favorite band, your favorite performer, your favorite opera soprano/tenor or > philharmonic orchestra plays the song/overture/symphony of their life/career. OK, jazz, > rock, europop, fill out the blanks ... > > On site, you have the state of the art (SOTA), or cutting edge (CE) teams recording the > concert: > (1) the best Telarc, Chesky, Deutsche Gramophon, EMI can get to produce a DDD CD > (2) the best Nakamichi team has to produce a traditional cassette using the best tape > you can think of ... > (3) the best Linn, Nakamichi, xxxxxx, you name it, has to produce a traditional vinyl > has > (4) the best from Revox, Tandberg, UHER/Kudelski - to produce a reel-to-reel. > (5) the best team from SONY to produce MD > (6) the best from internet there is to produce MP3 file. > (7) the best from Phillips/Matsushita to produce DCC > (8) other (but not anything digital beyond 16 bit CD with 44.1 sampling rate.) > > Question - which one do you choose??? Remember, this is a historic concert. You need to > have the best copy of it that there exists. At the end of the concert you are presented > with a (1) DDD CD - the best there is, (2) TDK/Maxell. ... - the best cassette there is > .... , etc. > > I choose option (1) a DDD CD. > > Please be honest. Don't give us this 'my Nak BX-150 with TDK OD-90 circa 1983, and Dolby > B @ +2db taht I got from a friend of my sister's is better than the rest' ... Or., my > TEAC xxx or Reovx 77xx has capability to record 95 tracks... Just the bottom line. > Honest. Please ... > > Stan > > > FabFourFan wrote: > > > Hey, guys, I am plenty tolerant (honest!) but I don't think that those > > other issues belong in naktalk. > > > > Consider this: What kind of response would one expect if I went to a > > minidisk mailing list and offered to explain to them why my nak sounds > > better then their crummy minidisks? > > > > I think that they would tell me to get lost, and not very politely, > > either. > > > > So, please understand that I am happy to discuss many things, just not > > all here on naktalk. > > > > Thanks for your time. > > > > Mike > > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:51:48 -0400, you wrote: > > > > >Sorry, but I have to agree with Graham. Let us all learn to listen to other > > >opinions since that is what make a list more interesting. > > >Fanatism is not healthy. > > > > > >Carlos > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Graham Nelson > > >To: > > >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:10 PM > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > > > > > > > >> Come on, Mike! Let's show a wee bit more tolerance to alternative views > > >and > > >> a willingness to listen even if we might not agree with them. > > >> > > >> Graham > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > >> > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > >> > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > >> > FabFourFan > > >> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 03:31 > > >> > To: naktalk at naks.com > > >> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > \\\yeah yeah yeah, please take the minidisk announcements to some > > >> > minidisk mailing list, and leave them off the naktalk mailing list. > > >> > this is not the 'things i think are better than cassettes' > > >> > voting booth, > > >> > eh? > > >> > > > >> > Mike 'today i'm the minidisk police' Patrick > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:54:22 EDT, you wrote: > > >> > > > >> > >TO: NAKTALK > > >> > > > > >> > >I have been a pretty big cassette recording enthusiast in > > >> > the past, but > > >> > >mainly because for a long time it was the only recording > > >> > format that could > > >> > >even be considered to be close to hi-fi that was reasonably > > >> > convenient and > > >> > >portable. > > >> > >I really liked the idea of recording *my own* music onto > > >> > cassettes, which I > > >> > >could then play in my car (where unfortunately, most of us > > >> > have the most time > > >> > >to enjoy our music). > > >> > > > > >> > >I agree with some comments made earlier that for recording > > >> > from a CD, CDR is > > >> > >probably the best, highest fidelity possible. As most of > > >> > you know, however, > > >> > >CDs surfaces are fragile (easily scratched) and really not > > >> > all that portable > > >> > >or space-effiicient. > > >> > > > > >> > >Now that I have gotten an MD player, let me tell you, this > > >> > format is the real > > >> > >stuff. Sure, blue-blood audiophiles claim that MD is not > > >> > truly 'hi-fi'; > > >> > >well, it's no secret that they have *never* considered > > >> > cassettes hi-fi > > >> > >either. In fact, only really expensive vinyl recording > > >> > equipment and CDs > > >> > >have ever been considered truly audiophile source material > > >> > by these people. > > >> > >I consider myself to be fairly critical about the sound of > > >> > the music coming > > >> > >from my sound system, and I defy any of you to consistently detect > > >> > >differences in sound quality in an a-b-x comparison between > > >> > CDs and MDs > > >> > >recorded from those CDs. When you couple this sound quality > > >> > with this > > >> > >format's portability and add track access times similar to > > >> > that of CDs, you > > >> > >have a recording format that is a clear winner. Oh, did I > > >> > mention that > > >> > >mini-discs are far, far more rugged than either CDs or cassettes? > > >> > > > > >> > >Don't get me wrong, I think the cassette has been a trusty > > >> > companion and the > > >> > >format has produced some beautiful cassette decks. But ask > > >> > anybody who has > > >> > >used both for any length of time and they will tell you that > > >> > the MD is a real > > >> > >winner and the winner between these two formats. > > >> > > > > >> > >Sincerely, > > >> > > > > >> > >David K. Nakamura > > >> > > > >> > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > >> > ------------========= > > >> > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > > >> > Cassette Deck resource. > > >> > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > >> > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >> > > > >> > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > >> > ------------========= > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = > > >======= > > >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >> > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = > > >======= > > >> > > >> > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sat Oct 2 13:15:45 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 07:15:45 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! References: <005301bf0c49$405c4d00$262f2ac4@coqui.net> <37F51EFC.67646733@epix.net> <000f01bf0c67$948a0020$a52f2ac4@coqui.net> <006c01bf0c7f$7dee1c80$7903ffcc@gregsown> Message-ID: <004301bf0cc7$79567e40$552f2ac4@coqui.net> I'll send it to you. Welcome ! Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: texan To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:40 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! > Hi, I'm new to the group, where can i also get the Nak Tree Document? > > Greg > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carlos > To: > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 6:49 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! > > > > Did you receive the Nak Tree Document ? If not, let me know. > > > > Carlos > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: bob > > To: > > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 4:52 PM > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! > > > > > > > > > > how does the nak tree work... > > > jargon on tape swaps throws me for a loop, > > > bob > > > Carlos wrote: > > > > > > > > Hey fellows ! > > > > > > > > The Nak Tree is finally taking off ! Thanks to my "nephew" Blues that > is > > in > > > > charge of the Tree public relations. As soon as I received the "Cream" > > tape, > > > > I'll take it to my San Juan's mastering facilities and make the proper > > > > adjustments and editing (if needed) . > > > > > > > > Public thanks to Mr. Blues for sharing this classic. Tapes will be > > available > > > > by the end of the month. All interested should contact Mr. Blues. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > The Tape Man > > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mrtightenup at my-deja.com Sat Oct 2 15:09:47 1999 From: mrtightenup at my-deja.com ( ) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 06:09:47 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Analog is the real deal!!! Message-ID: Hmmmmm, You fellows really should loosen-up a bit on the analog/digital debate. This advice is sincere and without a hidden agenda. Also, I must advise some of you that we're appalled at how sloppily you use the NakTalk space - Posting replies with multi-forwarded messages is a waste of cyberspace and NakTalkers valuable time. Be more courteous and conscientious about what you send out to the rest of us, life is too short to be seeing crusty old messages. Have a great weekend! mrtightenup --== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ ==-- Share what you know. Learn what you don't. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Oct 2 19:58:55 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:58:55 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... In-Reply-To: <37F5731C.F192A844@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <000301bf0d00$524e7da0$05000006@p4v56> Stan Good question! Personally, I'd go for one of the better reel-to-reel machines but I also think I'd rather like that transferred onto good quality vinyl for longevity. Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > targowski > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 03:51 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... > > > Here is my question ... > > Your favorite band, your favorite performer, your favorite > opera soprano/tenor or > philharmonic orchestra plays the song/overture/symphony of > their life/career. OK, jazz, > rock, europop, fill out the blanks ... > > On site, you have the state of the art (SOTA), or cutting > edge (CE) teams recording the > concert: > (1) the best Telarc, Chesky, Deutsche Gramophon, EMI can get > to produce a DDD CD > (2) the best Nakamichi team has to produce a traditional > cassette using the best tape > you can think of ... > (3) the best Linn, Nakamichi, xxxxxx, you name it, has to > produce a traditional vinyl > has > (4) the best from Revox, Tandberg, UHER/Kudelski - to produce > a reel-to-reel. > (5) the best team from SONY to produce MD > (6) the best from internet there is to produce MP3 file. > (7) the best from Phillips/Matsushita to produce DCC > (8) other (but not anything digital beyond 16 bit CD with > 44.1 sampling rate.) > > Question - which one do you choose??? Remember, this is a > historic concert. You need to > have the best copy of it that there exists. At the end of the > concert you are presented > with a (1) DDD CD - the best there is, (2) TDK/Maxell. ... - > the best cassette there is > .... , etc. > > I choose option (1) a DDD CD. > > Please be honest. Don't give us this 'my Nak BX-150 with TDK > OD-90 circa 1983, and Dolby > B @ +2db taht I got from a friend of my sister's is better > than the rest' ... Or., my > TEAC xxx or Reovx 77xx has capability to record 95 tracks... > Just the bottom line. > Honest. Please ... > > Stan > > > FabFourFan wrote: > > > Hey, guys, I am plenty tolerant (honest!) but I don't think > that those > > other issues belong in naktalk. > > > > Consider this: What kind of response would one expect if I > went to a > > minidisk mailing list and offered to explain to them why my > nak sounds > > better then their crummy minidisks? > > > > I think that they would tell me to get lost, and not very politely, > > either. > > > > So, please understand that I am happy to discuss many > things, just not > > all here on naktalk. > > > > Thanks for your time. > > > > Mike > > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:51:48 -0400, you wrote: > > > > >Sorry, but I have to agree with Graham. Let us all learn > to listen to other > > >opinions since that is what make a list more interesting. > > >Fanatism is not healthy. > > > > > >Carlos > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Graham Nelson > > >To: > > >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:10 PM > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > > > > > > > >> Come on, Mike! Let's show a wee bit more tolerance to > alternative views > > >and > > >> a willingness to listen even if we might not agree with them. > > >> > > >> Graham > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > >> > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > >> > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > >> > FabFourFan > > >> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 03:31 > > >> > To: naktalk at naks.com > > >> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > \\\yeah yeah yeah, please take the minidisk > announcements to some > > >> > minidisk mailing list, and leave them off the naktalk > mailing list. > > >> > this is not the 'things i think are better than cassettes' > > >> > voting booth, > > >> > eh? > > >> > > > >> > Mike 'today i'm the minidisk police' Patrick > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:54:22 EDT, you wrote: > > >> > > > >> > >TO: NAKTALK > > >> > > > > >> > >I have been a pretty big cassette recording enthusiast in > > >> > the past, but > > >> > >mainly because for a long time it was the only recording > > >> > format that could > > >> > >even be considered to be close to hi-fi that was reasonably > > >> > convenient and > > >> > >portable. > > >> > >I really liked the idea of recording *my own* music onto > > >> > cassettes, which I > > >> > >could then play in my car (where unfortunately, most of us > > >> > have the most time > > >> > >to enjoy our music). > > >> > > > > >> > >I agree with some comments made earlier that for recording > > >> > from a CD, CDR is > > >> > >probably the best, highest fidelity possible. As most of > > >> > you know, however, > > >> > >CDs surfaces are fragile (easily scratched) and really not > > >> > all that portable > > >> > >or space-effiicient. > > >> > > > > >> > >Now that I have gotten an MD player, let me tell you, this > > >> > format is the real > > >> > >stuff. Sure, blue-blood audiophiles claim that MD is not > > >> > truly 'hi-fi'; > > >> > >well, it's no secret that they have *never* considered > > >> > cassettes hi-fi > > >> > >either. In fact, only really expensive vinyl recording > > >> > equipment and CDs > > >> > >have ever been considered truly audiophile source material > > >> > by these people. > > >> > >I consider myself to be fairly critical about the sound of > > >> > the music coming > > >> > >from my sound system, and I defy any of you to > consistently detect > > >> > >differences in sound quality in an a-b-x comparison between > > >> > CDs and MDs > > >> > >recorded from those CDs. When you couple this sound quality > > >> > with this > > >> > >format's portability and add track access times similar to > > >> > that of CDs, you > > >> > >have a recording format that is a clear winner. Oh, did I > > >> > mention that > > >> > >mini-discs are far, far more rugged than either CDs > or cassettes? > > >> > > > > >> > >Don't get me wrong, I think the cassette has been a trusty > > >> > companion and the > > >> > >format has produced some beautiful cassette decks. But ask > > >> > anybody who has > > >> > >used both for any length of time and they will tell you that > > >> > the MD is a real > > >> > >winner and the winner between these two formats. > > >> > > > > >> > >Sincerely, > > >> > > > > >> > >David K. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Oct 2 19:52:33 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:52:33 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette In-Reply-To: <37f56a18.2273824@mail.voicenet.com> Message-ID: <000201bf0d00$50cc7180$05000006@p4v56> Mike I take your point but I feel some issues are so closely related (for some of us, may be not for all) that it is impossible (or unreasonable) to divorce them. For example, the issue of MD versus cassettes is of a great interest for those whose focus is on dubbing, but who happen (at the moment) to love the technology and engineering of the Nak's. Then the whole debate could be turned on its head anyway by one move - just suppose Nakamichi produced a mini disc machine .... Sounds too horrible? Well, remember that, while rubbishing compact disc as being no alternative to their legendary record player, the LP12, Linn were secretly developing their own up-market CD player! And now they are quite happy to claim their CD12 is a wonderful bit of kit ... and equal to the LP12. Likewise, Roksan did much the same, except they no longer make the great Xeres record player... In fact, I seem to recall that Nakamichi did make a DAT player for their home market ... correct me if I'm wrong ... Graham > Hey, guys, I am plenty tolerant (honest!) but I don't think that those > other issues belong in naktalk. > > Consider this: What kind of response would one expect if I went to a > minidisk mailing list and offered to explain to them why my nak sounds > better then their crummy minidisks? > > I think that they would tell me to get lost, and not very politely, > either. > > So, please understand that I am happy to discuss many things, just not > all here on naktalk. > > Thanks for your time. > > Mike > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Oct 2 19:39:23 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:39:23 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] MP3 (was Re: naktalk-digest V1 #58) In-Reply-To: <37F54CB4.6BB825A@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <000101bf0d00$4e1dcc40$05000006@p4v56> > On thing will never change for me though, and that is > the beauty of the old 12" LP cover. I imagine the day > when I'm using a new recording technology I'll still > keep the LP covers . > John H > John Now, I'm not going to say a word about discussing this on a different forum! But I will say, John, you're really a romantic, ain't you! And where this subject is concerned, I know exactly where you're coming from and why I am also still buying the black stuff as fast as anyone wants to trade in their old collections for the silver discs. And just to get the subject back onto cassettes, John, I archive quite a few of 'em onto cassettes ... Graham ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From SPKRMANJZZ at aol.com Sat Oct 2 22:34:00 1999 From: SPKRMANJZZ at aol.com (SPKRMANJZZ at aol.com) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 16:34:00 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Q. What is consideredto be Naks most reliable transport & which decksare they in Message-ID: <35f4cd0f.2527c638@aol.com> Hi All, I would appreciate comment on which decks have the most reliable transport/ electronics and a breakdown of transports which are nearly identical between different" ages" and models within an age. I am thinking about a "final cassette deck" and would like as much input as possible. Also I am beginning to experiment with MDs and Computer CD-R and would like comment, possibly direct via email if it is not appropriate here on decks/software interfaces which give a similar feel in usage to a Nak or other well designed user friendly cassette deck. As far as looks go it seems md players are concentrating on compact size instead of friendly design and the "cool edit 96" software I'm using isn't very intuitive or pleasing to the eye. Seems part of the enjoyment of using a classic Nak is that you can tell that some thought went into where to put controls and how they "feel" as they operate. Any comments are welcome. P.S. I'm signing up for the tree, anybody out ther recording some good old live jazz or gospel. The jazz I want, The gospel I have to trade. Thanks, Patrick ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Oct 2 22:55:33 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 21:55:33 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? In-Reply-To: <001101bf0c4c$657e7f60$262f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <000401bf0d18$9b618920$05000006@p4v56> Carlos You put up a convincing argument .. I think maybe your right and I am ... wrong. Ah well. Can't be right all the time, can I?! What format do you think is going to fill the place of cassette? Graham > > My dear friend Graham: > > I just hope that the market would feel only 25% of what you > feel for the > cassette ! It would help me make more money to add more Naks > to my already > big collection ! I remember when we use to work 24 hours > a day in the > rush season making cassettes. Now is hardly 8 hours and > perhaps 2 shifts in > the rush season. NO, I don't see any hope for the cassette or > Nakamichi > re-issueing their " legends " because it is too crazy > expensive. A turntable > is very simple compare to a complex deck like a 1000 ZXL, for example. > That's why is not easy, Graham. Is not just taking a motor, > base, plinth > and arm and that's it. It is far much more than that. And even if they > re-issue them is not gonna be a shadow of what they use to > be. You mentioned > low labor cost and that means more mass production and less hands on > quality. Is not a secret that the best Naks were those built > in Japan, after > that, it was another story and sound. > > Today at my factory my mother (comptroller ! ) told me : " I think the > cassette is gonna live more than 5 years cause there're too > many decks out > there and CD's are expensive for some > people " Unfortunately, a cassette doesn't cost $7.00 > anymore. They're over > $10.00 already and that is simply ridiculous. I manufacture > cassettes and I > swear that I have never bought a commercial cassette in my > life ! Simply > because the LP sounds better and it was fun making my own > cassettes. Now > with the CD it's even more critical. > > Anyway, let's see what happens. Who knows if the cassette > makes a revival 10 > years from now. I simply doubt it ! Even if I have money to do that, I > wouldn't expend $6,000 in a cassette deck. > > The Tape Man > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sun Oct 3 00:03:03 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 18:03:03 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? References: <000401bf0d18$9b618920$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <003301bf0d21$e6b581c0$472f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Nelson To: Sent: Saturday, October 02, 1999 4:55 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? > Carlos > > You put up a convincing argument .. I think maybe your right and I am ... > wrong. > No, you are not wrong and neither I. These are just speculations and I sincerely hope that you would be the right one ! I'm just looking the things from the Professional point of view. I don't know why, but there's something that make me feel that the LP revival story would not repeat itself with our beloved media. Let's hope I'm wrong ! What's next ? I don't have the slightest clue but I'm sure is gonna be something digital. We are too strong into that. No turn back now. You know that the CD life is expected to be no more than 15 years from now, shit, if only I can keep pace with the technology for a while ... Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From targowski at mediaone.net Sun Oct 3 03:55:12 1999 From: targowski at mediaone.net (targowski) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 20:55:12 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] other naks, do not think so ...? References: <37F6ABD0.3B6AB512@epix.net> Message-ID: <37F6B77F.B5233376@mediaone.net> I do not think a dual capstain meant Nakamichi, especially in 1992. There are very many decks, going as far back as 1970's that had that feature, and I can't think that Nak was the one providing the transport.. Pioneer CT-F 850/950/1250 (1979), JVC KD-A77/A8 (1980), Technics RS-M95, decks from Revox, Tandberg, TEAC Z-7000. As an aside, Pioneer CT93, was perhaps one of the best built and sounding decks ever. Built quality similar to NASA spaceship, the most (or one of the most) successful implementations of Dolby-S. Price was steep too, for a non Nak deck, over $1,200+ Stan bob wrote: > Just looked over an old 1992 mag listing cassette decks and it seems > that there are about a half a dozen "NAKs" in disguise...ie. dual > capstan, etc. > Among them Pioneer Elite 93 and 41 models; JVC, Technics, Sony, Teac, > Onkyo etc. etc. > Was that the year that NAK lost its copyright on designs...and they > were mimicked, or did the others just buy > NAK transports? > User comments on some of these decks would be of interest. > bob > /;o) ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Sun Oct 3 04:18:23 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 05:18:23 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Re: other naks? References: <37F6ABD0.3B6AB512@epix.net> Message-ID: <000b01bf0d45$93b9e000$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Hi Bob, AFAIK, there was no NAK's copyright for dual capstain design. So many companies start to produce closed loop transports back to end of 70's. It's mean that those decks are absolutely non-Nak designed and produced. I played with whole bunch of different decks from many years and many manufacturers, but none of them (probably except TEAC 6030-8030 and Revoxes) I really like. From technical point of view - you can talk with the Nak deck, and Nak will responce according what you are asking. Most of the other deck - you have to fight with them to make them works. And there still be some other great - like Revox/Studer and Tandberg. I never played with the Tandberg, so I can not tell about it. Revox - no doubt B-215 has the best transport ever produced. Non-nak at all. B-215 is in my most-wanted list and stays there on a first position. WBR, Michael. > Just looked over an old 1992 mag listing cassette decks and it seems > that there are about a half a dozen "NAKs" in disguise...ie. dual > capstan, etc. > Among them Pioneer Elite 93 and 41 models; JVC, Technics, Sony, Teac, > Onkyo etc. etc. > Was that the year that NAK lost its copyright on designs...and they > were mimicked, or did the others just buy > NAK transports? > User comments on some of these decks would be of interest. > bob ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bochar at epix.net Sun Oct 3 05:02:18 1999 From: bochar at epix.net (bob) Date: Sat, 02 Oct 1999 23:02:18 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: other naks? References: <37F6ABD0.3B6AB512@epix.net> <000b01bf0d45$93b9e000$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <37F6C73A.8920A298@epix.net> Thanks: Very interesting... I thought the problem with the Revox was that tapes made on any other deck sounded inferior on the Revox, whereas the best NAKs with azimuth alignment make all other deck taped tapes sound their best. bob MVM wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > AFAIK, there was no NAK's copyright for dual capstain design. > So many companies start to produce closed loop transports > back to end of 70's. It's mean that those decks are absolutely > non-Nak designed and produced. > > I played with whole bunch of different decks from many years and > many manufacturers, but none of them (probably except TEAC 6030-8030 > and Revoxes) I really like. From technical point of view - you can talk with > the Nak deck, and Nak will responce according what you are asking. > Most of the other deck - you have to fight with them to make them works. > > And there still be some other great - like Revox/Studer and Tandberg. > I never played with the Tandberg, so I can not tell about it. Revox - no > doubt B-215 has the best transport ever produced. Non-nak at all. > B-215 is in my most-wanted list and stays there on a first position. > > WBR, > Michael. > > > Just looked over an old 1992 mag listing cassette decks and it seems > > that there are about a half a dozen "NAKs" in disguise...ie. dual > > capstan, etc. > > Among them Pioneer Elite 93 and 41 models; JVC, Technics, Sony, Teac, > > Onkyo etc. etc. > > Was that the year that NAK lost its copyright on designs...and they > > were mimicked, or did the others just buy > > NAK transports? > > User comments on some of these decks would be of interest. > > bob > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From copytec at coqui.net Sun Oct 3 07:05:30 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 01:05:30 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Q. What is consideredto be Naks most reliable transport & whichdecksare they in References: <35f4cd0f.2527c638@aol.com> Message-ID: <001e01bf0d5c$ea8377e0$8c2f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: mdhjwh To: Sent: Thursday, January 01, 1970 7:00 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Q. What is consideredto be Naks most reliable transport & whichdecksare they in > > > I hate to admit it, but the above statement is way off the mark. > Having used a Dragon daily for a decade, take it from me the the bloody thing > is an ergonomic nightmare. The illegible lettering and miniscule bias, Dolby etc > buttons must have been 'designed' with miniaturized fingers in mind... Ha, Ha, Ha !!! You are right there my friend, but you know what ? That similar situation has forced me to know all the buttons and functions by heart ! I remember when I was a kid, I enjoy dealing with my system during night and almost blind in the dark. It makes me feel some kind like an " expert " knowing all the buttons, positions, functions without seeing it ! Just a humorous thing ... Best, Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sun Oct 3 07:15:06 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 01:15:06 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: other naks? References: <37F6ABD0.3B6AB512@epix.net> <000b01bf0d45$93b9e000$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <002601bf0d5e$41947b00$8c2f2ac4@coqui.net> Revox - no > doubt B-215 has the best transport ever produced. Non-nak at all. > B-215 is in my most-wanted list and stays there on a first position. > My friend Michael is 100% right. There's simply not better transport ever made than the Revox. The transport alone is a fine piece of engineering and art. I remember at the shows, they use to exhibit the transport by itself ! It is simply amazing. Even the dealers use to receive a transport and a kind of stand just to show it to the customers. The mold of the whole transport is a one piece of allied metals and everything is so exact that even a deviation of a minuscule fraction of an inch, will cause the machine to behave anormaly, specially the capstan. This brings to my mind a situation that happened to me: In 1984 I bought the first B-215 ever that arrived to Puerto Rico. The serial number was under 1000 ! As soon as I get the machine out of the box, she start showing an anormally wow ! Guess what ? From all the machines produced, I received one with a molding problem ! Revox in Nashville never get with the problem and shipped the machine back to Switzerland. They ship me back a whole new unit # 1528, after explaining me what were wrong with it ! I'm always a lucky guy ...! Best, Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From tbra at earthlight.co.nz Sun Oct 3 08:23:07 1999 From: tbra at earthlight.co.nz (Tony Braam) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 19:23:07 +1300 Subject: [naktalk] 670ZX Message-ID: <000101bf0d67$c2196520$b30861cb@oemcomputer> Hello from New Zealand, I use a 670ZX and a 550. My question is regarding "cosmetic" parts for the 670ZX. A number of years ago, my young daughter picked the cap of the monitor switch, can anyone suggest where I might get another from? Regards, Tony ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Sun Oct 3 13:10:32 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 21:10:32 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... References: <000301bf0c40$b484b720$05000006@p4v56> <001d01bf0c46$6655b440$262f2ac4@coqui.net> <37f56a18.2273824@mail.voicenet.com> <37F5731C.F192A844@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <37F739A7.5B6FD28F@ozemail.com.au> targowski wrote: > >Here is my question ...< .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. ... ... ... > > >Your favorite band, your favorite performer,< As I said before I would go for the ' the best from Revox, Tandberg, UHER/Kudelski - to produce a reel-to-reel. < with the proviso that I could use a Studer (any pro reel to reel model) with electronics modifies by tim de Paravicini. John H ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From krogers at u-r-online.com Sun Oct 3 15:47:29 1999 From: krogers at u-r-online.com (Kevin Rogers) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 09:47:29 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 670ZX References: <000101bf0d67$c2196520$b30861cb@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <000901bf0da5$d6870100$6f1726d8@krogers> ----- Original Message ----- From: Tony Braam To: Naktalk Sent: October 3, 1999 2:23 AM Subject: [naktalk] 670ZX > Hello from New Zealand, I use a 670ZX and a 550. My question is regarding > "cosmetic" parts for the 670ZX. A number of years ago, my young daughter > picked the cap of the monitor switch, can anyone suggest where I might get > another from? > Regards, > Tony Hi Tony. There are no such cosmetic parts available from Nakamichi anymore to the best of my knowledge. However, I believe I may have the entire plastic switch. I will check in my parts area if you e mail directly at krogers at u-r-online.com. Kevin > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bobos61 at hotmail.com Sun Oct 3 19:10:07 1999 From: bobos61 at hotmail.com (ed mambruno) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 10:10:07 PDT Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! Message-ID: <19991003171008.53137.qmail@hotmail.com> hi Carlos, i would also like to become a member. ed >From: "Carlos" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: >Subject: Re: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! >Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 07:15:45 -0400 > >I'll send it to you. Welcome ! > >Carlos > >----- Original Message ----- >From: texan >To: >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 10:40 PM >Subject: Re: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! > > > > Hi, I'm new to the group, where can i also get the Nak Tree Document? > > > > Greg > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Carlos > > To: > > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 6:49 PM > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! > > > > > > > Did you receive the Nak Tree Document ? If not, let me know. > > > > > > Carlos > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: bob > > > To: > > > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 4:52 PM > > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how does the nak tree work... > > > > jargon on tape swaps throws me for a loop, > > > > bob > > > > Carlos wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey fellows ! > > > > > > > > > > The Nak Tree is finally taking off ! Thanks to my "nephew" Blues >that > > is > > > in > > > > > charge of the Tree public relations. As soon as I received the >"Cream" > > > tape, > > > > > I'll take it to my San Juan's mastering facilities and make the >proper > > > > > adjustments and editing (if needed) . > > > > > > > > > > Public thanks to Mr. Blues for sharing this classic. Tapes will be > > > available > > > > > by the end of the month. All interested should contact Mr. Blues. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > The Tape Man > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > ======= > > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette >Deck > > > resource. > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > ======= > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK >http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sun Oct 3 20:07:00 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 11:07:00 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Fwd: I'm So Glad....... Message-ID: Hi to all you Nakkers! I sent a message to the new NakTree email address, and have seen nothing posted. I'm confused, and hopeful that our Nak godfather, Wouter, will investigate the problem - That is, unless I'm lost in cyberspace!!! Anyway, I'm forwarding what I mailed to on Friday night. I'd like to see the NakTree sprouting up with many new members who want to chat and exchange music, and we won't be boring the our other fellow NakTalkers who only wish to discuss technological terms on . Let's see what happens. Thanks Wouter!!! Mr Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper --------- Forwarded Message --------- DATE: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 17:45:26 From: "The BlueSwapper" To: naktree at naks.com Cc:blueswapper at angelfire.com Greetings! Well, I guess that I'm the lucky NakTalker to get the first email posted on the sibling NakTree Digest. Is that really true, I've made the first one?? I'm thrilled and honored if the opportunity came upon me tonight!!! I'll simply say that its a pleasure to be involved with others who enjoy good music and discriminating audio gear. Since this is about exchanging music, I'm re-posting an earlier message announcing my contribution to the NakTree effort. Have a great time with the music....... Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper --------- Forwarded Message --------- From: "The BlueSwapper" To: naktalk at naks.com Cc:blueswapper at angelfire.com All Right!!! I've completed my first offical contribution to the Music Exchange Tree, and I will be sending that to Carlos (The Tape Man) real soon. I've chosen some rock & blues music from the mid 1960's, by the British group called (rightfully) 'The Cream'. I've titled this effort as "The Cream - Off The Top", and designed a nice complimentary color j-card to slip into the case. Here's what I've created for your music listening enjoyment: A ninety minute potpourri of unadulterated original sessions, obscure alternatives & out-takes, and rarely heard live tracks. Arranged as only a blues aficionado might be able to do, with one of the most complete collections of music by The Cream, held in my personal library! I'm currently compiling a moderately detailed playlist to provide to anyone interested (that can be emailed upon request). Other info - Recorded on Maxell XLIIS 90 cassette, with CrO2 equalization bias, without noise reduction. Recorded on a Nak RX-505 cassette deck. Original media (twelve different albums have been used, several are audiophile remastered discs, others are soundboard bootlegg discs) is all compact disc derived, sourced directly to the RX-505 using my Philips 765 CD/CDR compact disc deck. Here's hoping that some of you other Nakkers will request to enjoy listening to my contribution! And I'm looking/hearing forward to a variety of other good music coming to the Music Exchange Tree from all over the world, soon!!! Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper -------- End Forwarded Message --------- Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From winfried.schoepf at unisys.co.at Sun Oct 3 20:16:54 1999 From: winfried.schoepf at unisys.co.at (Winfried Schoepf) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 20:16:54 +0200 Subject: AW: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... Message-ID: <01BF0DDC.53B68520@AT-VIE-SCHOEPFW.mk.unisys.com> Love the humor on this list !! But I agree. About 15 years ago I got a copy of a master tape recorded at Schloss Amras (a medieval castle near Innsbruck, Tyrol) where they perform a festival every year. On it was Beethoven's Trio for violin, cello and contrabass. The reording and the copy were done both on Studer A67 without noise reduction. Even the copy of this tape had a reality and dynamic range on it that I really never found on any CD I ever listened to. And no hiss ! But you normally don't get your fingers on this stuff, so for me it was once in a lifetime perhaps. Short of such a master tape, I would probably go for the CD. But then, with only minimal distance, I would rank my 680ZX connected straight to the mic mixer ! Regards Winfried -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: P Knapp [SMTP:pknapp at bbnow.net] Gesendet am: Samstag, 2. Oktober 1999 05:32 An: naktalk at naks.com Betreff: Re: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... I'll take option 4 - the reel to reel. You can hv yr cd. ----- Original Message ----- From: targowski To: Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 9:51 PM Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... > Here is my question ... > > Your favorite band, your favorite performer, your favorite opera soprano/tenor or > philharmonic orchestra plays the song/overture/symphony of their life/career. OK, jazz, > rock, europop, fill out the blanks ... > > On site, you have the state of the art (SOTA), or cutting edge (CE) teams recording the > concert: > (1) the best Telarc, Chesky, Deutsche Gramophon, EMI can get to produce a DDD CD > (2) the best Nakamichi team has to produce a traditional cassette using the best tape > you can think of ... > (3) the best Linn, Nakamichi, xxxxxx, you name it, has to produce a traditional vinyl > has > (4) the best from Revox, Tandberg, UHER/Kudelski - to produce a reel-to-reel. > (5) the best team from SONY to produce MD > (6) the best from internet there is to produce MP3 file. > (7) the best from Phillips/Matsushita to produce DCC > (8) other (but not anything digital beyond 16 bit CD with 44.1 sampling rate.) > > Question - which one do you choose??? Remember, this is a historic concert. You need to > have the best copy of it that there exists. At the end of the concert you are presented > with a (1) DDD CD - the best there is, (2) TDK/Maxell. ... - the best cassette there is > .... , etc. > > I choose option (1) a DDD CD. > > Please be honest. Don't give us this 'my Nak BX-150 with TDK OD-90 circa 1983, and Dolby > B @ +2db taht I got from a friend of my sister's is better than the rest' ... Or., my > TEAC xxx or Reovx 77xx has capability to record 95 tracks... Just the bottom line. > Honest. Please ... > > Stan > > > FabFourFan wrote: > > > Hey, guys, I am plenty tolerant (honest!) but I don't think that those > > other issues belong in naktalk. > > > > Consider this: What kind of response would one expect if I went to a > > minidisk mailing list and offered to explain to them why my nak sounds > > better then their crummy minidisks? > > > > I think that they would tell me to get lost, and not very politely, > > either. > > > > So, please understand that I am happy to discuss many things, just not > > all here on naktalk. > > > > Thanks for your time. > > > > Mike > > > > On Fri, 1 Oct 1999 15:51:48 -0400, you wrote: > > > > >Sorry, but I have to agree with Graham. Let us all learn to listen to other > > >opinions since that is what make a list more interesting. > > >Fanatism is not healthy. > > > > > >Carlos > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: Graham Nelson > > >To: > > >Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 2:10 PM > > >Subject: RE: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > > > > > > > >> Come on, Mike! Let's show a wee bit more tolerance to alternative views > > >and > > >> a willingness to listen even if we might not agree with them. > > >> > > >> Graham > > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > > >> > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > >> > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > >> > FabFourFan > > >> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 1999 03:31 > > >> > To: naktalk at naks.com > > >> > Subject: Re: [naktalk] MD vs. cassette > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > \\\yeah yeah yeah, please take the minidisk announcements to some > > >> > minidisk mailing list, and leave them off the naktalk mailing list. > > >> > this is not the 'things i think are better than cassettes' > > >> > voting booth, > > >> > eh? > > >> > > > >> > Mike 'today i'm the minidisk police' Patrick > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 19:54:22 EDT, you wrote: > > >> > > > >> > >TO: NAKTALK > > >> > > > > >> > >I have been a pretty big cassette recording enthusiast in > > >> > the past, but > > >> > >mainly because for a long time it was the only recording > > >> > format that could > > >> > >even be considered to be close to hi-fi that was reasonably > > >> > convenient and > > >> > >portable. > > >> > >I really liked the idea of recording *my own* music onto > > >> > cassettes, which I > > >> > >could then play in my car (where unfortunately, most of us > > >> > have the most time > > >> > >to enjoy our music). > > >> > > > > >> > >I agree with some comments made earlier that for recording > > >> > from a CD, CDR is > > >> > >probably the best, highest fidelity possible. As most of > > >> > you know, however, > > >> > >CDs surfaces are fragile (easily scratched) and really not > > >> > all that portable > > >> > >or space-effiicient. > > >> > > > > >> > >Now that I have gotten an MD player, let me tell you, this > > >> > format is the real > > >> > >stuff. Sure, blue-blood audiophiles claim that MD is not > > >> > truly 'hi-fi'; > > >> > >well, it's no secret that they have *never* considered > > >> > cassettes hi-fi > > >> > >either. In fact, only really expensive vinyl recording > > >> > equipment and CDs > > >> > >have ever been considered truly audiophile source material > > >> > by these people. > > >> > >I consider myself to be fairly critical about the sound of > > >> > the music coming > > >> > >from my sound system, and I defy any of you to consistently detect > > >> > >differences in sound quality in an a-b-x comparison between > > >> > CDs and MDs > > >> > >recorded from those CDs. When you couple this sound quality > > >> > with this > > >> > >format's portability and add track access times similar to > > >> > that of CDs, you > > >> > >have a recording format that is a clear winner. Oh, did I > > >> > mention that > > >> > >mini-discs are far, far more rugged than either CDs or cassettes? > > >> > > > > >> > >Don't get me wrong, I think the cassette has been a trusty > > >> > companion and the > > >> > >format has produced some beautiful cassette decks. But ask > > >> > anybody who has > > >> > >used both for any length of time and they will tell you that > > >> > the MD is a real > > >> > >winner and the winner between these two formats. > > >> > > > > >> > >Sincerely, > > >> > > > > >> > >David K. 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A number of years ago, my > young daughter > picked the cap of the monitor switch, can anyone suggest > where I might get > another from? > Regards, > Tony > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mraven at telekabel.nl Mon Oct 4 01:17:45 1999 From: mraven at telekabel.nl (Maurits) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 01:17:45 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] DR10 test Message-ID: <003b01bf0df5$80237820$5b8286c2@telekabel.nl> US magazine Hi-Fi News Oct. 1999 has a test review of the Nakamichi DR 10. In short, it's good, not excellent. Seems they make something not to the very high standards of the better old models. \~ ~/ (\@@/) ----o000----(_)---000o----- Maurits (LX-5 owner) ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Oct 4 04:13:56 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:13:56 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! References: <19991003171008.53137.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <004901bf0e0e$1d3e0cc0$d22f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: ed mambruno To: Sent: Sunday, October 03, 1999 1:10 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] The Nak Tree taking off !!!! > hi Carlos, > i would also like to become a member. > ed > Sure ! Why not ? Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Oct 4 04:19:01 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:19:01 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... References: <000301bf0c40$b484b720$05000006@p4v56> <001d01bf0c46$6655b440$262f2ac4@coqui.net> <37f56a18.2273824@mail.voicenet.com> <37F5731C.F192A844@mediaone.net> <37F739A7.5B6FD28F@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <006d01bf0e0e$d4590cc0$d22f2ac4@coqui.net> > As I said before I would go for the ' the best from Revox, Tandberg, UHER/Kudelski - to > produce a reel-to-reel. < with the proviso that I > could use a Studer (any pro reel to reel model) with electronics modifies > by tim de Paravicini. > John H > > Sure ! and probably with the newest Ampex ATR 1" modification running at 30 ips. Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Oct 4 04:38:48 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 22:38:48 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree Document Message-ID: <000901bf0e11$96cccba0$d22f2ac4@coqui.net> The Nak Tree Document The following , are simple to follow instructions and requirements for the mutual benefit of all those subjects interested in trading music. These would guarantee the free enjoyment of music. RULES: 1- By submitting your mailing address and name you authorize other members to exchange music with you or any of your family members under your patronage. 2- The shipping method to be used is Priority Parcel Post. The sender is responsible for shipping cost. The shipping method may vary for foreign members. In that case the specific member must notify the best shipping way. 3- Each member must notify the musical genre preference. That way you avoid to receive music that you don't like. 4- The addresses are private and not available to other sources without the explicit permission of the members. 5- Tapes to be trade has to be high quality Chrome. Maxell XL-II, TDK SA & BASF Reference II. It can be custom load but in no less than a Shape Mark 10 shell. C-60 and C-90 ONLY. 6- If you want to encode the tape with a filter, only DOLBY B should be used since this type does not need imperative decoding to obtain good sound. You should notify if it is Dolby B encoded. Dolby S is more forgiving, so, it is permisible too as long as you mention it. 7- You must protect the cassette with a good padded envelope or other good protection means. 8- The deck model, filter used (if any), recording or dubbing date, studio and recording engineer (you) must be written. 9- Re-distribution to other members is permitted. SALES ARE FORBIDDEN. We don't want to infringe any copyright law here. These tapes are for our personal pleasure ONLY. 10- Mixed music are welcome. In this case you don't have to write down the artists/songs. If not mixed, please allow at least 3 seconds of silence/space for the benefit of those decks equipped with AMS (automatic music search). 11- Let's all maintain a healthy communication by e mail with other members. Try to play fair: if you receive a C-90 tape, do not send back a C-60 and so unless the other party agree. 12- Music can be new or old. Life concerts are welcome too but you must keep in mind that not all the members have accessibility to these sources. 13- You are not oblige to record on a Nakamichi deck as long as you notify it. It is preferable but is not an obligation. Any other ideas, comments or rules are welcome. Best regards, Carlos J. Guzman - President Copytech Corporation Puerto Rico (787)885-2316 copytec at coqui.net ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Mon Oct 4 09:17:21 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 09:17:21 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Death of Akairo Nakamuiro References: <19991003211127.45723.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <004701bf0e38$809885a0$131032d4@infosysbank.com> Akio Morita, you mean ? George ----- Original Message ----- From: mick s To: Sent: 03 Октомври 1999 г. 23:11 Subject: [naktalk] Death of Akairo Nakamuiro > > G'day, > > It was sad to learn that Akairo Nakamuiro the inventor of the Sony Walkman > (= Sony Walkperson for the politically correct)) and ex-president of the > Sony Empire died yesterday. > > His Walkman allowed mobility to my Nakamichi! > > Mick > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Mon Oct 4 10:06:45 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:06:45 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Death of Akairo Nakamuiro References: <19991003211127.45723.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <37F86014.E54261BA@ozemail.com.au> I was privileged to visit his home in 1989 and hear his amazingly idiosyncratic hi/fi system. Enormous bass horns integrated into the floor of a very small room, a Linn turntable , a collection of Sony amps, Sugden amps, DIY valve gear and lord knows what else crammed into every available corner. He did not regard the cassette as a hi'fi medium although he held a great respect for Nakamichis engineering skills. We discussed Bing-Fa the chinese military strategy . I gathered from reading between the lines that one of his burning ambitions was a form of pacifist commercial revenge against the U.S. I still use a Walkman Pro every day at work to block out the commercial radio trash that floods my office. (a pair of Senheisser phones that negate ambient noise adds the final insulation from bubble gum music) We have a lot to thank him for - though I suspect that some large American companies won't miss him. John H ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Mon Oct 4 10:09:45 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 18:09:45 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... References: <000301bf0c40$b484b720$05000006@p4v56> <001d01bf0c46$6655b440$262f2ac4@coqui.net> <37f56a18.2273824@mail.voicenet.com> <37F5731C.F192A844@mediaone.net> <37F739A7.5B6FD28F@ozemail.com.au> <006d01bf0e0e$d4590cc0$d22f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <37F860C9.347F1CB1@ozemail.com.au> We can only dream ! I an interested as to why you would want Dolby S on a high -end Reel to reel. Why is it needed? (great for cassette though) John H Carlos wrote: > > As I said before I would go for the ' the best from Revox, Tandberg, > UHER/Kudelski - to > > produce a reel-to-reel. < with the proviso that I > > could use a Studer (any pro reel to reel model) with electronics modifies > > by tim de Paravicini. > > John H > > > > > Sure ! and probably with the newest Ampex ATR 1" modification running at 30 > ips. > > Carlos > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From k.-h.herrmann at fz-juelich.de Mon Oct 4 12:21:03 1999 From: k.-h.herrmann at fz-juelich.de (Karl-Heinz Herrmann) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 12:21:03 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... In-Reply-To: <37F5731C.F192A844@mediaone.net> Message-ID: I prefer: 9) direct cut vinyl -- no tape in between. Second best -- reel-to-reel and then a vinyl. So a lot is decided at recording time, there is some crap and sometimes a gem. K.-H. ---------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: Karl-Heinz Herrmann Date: 04-Oct-99 Time: 12:17:02 ---------------------------------------------------------- ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bobos61 at hotmail.com Mon Oct 4 15:37:45 1999 From: bobos61 at hotmail.com (ed mambruno) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 06:37:45 PDT Subject: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list Message-ID: <19991004133745.64678.qmail@hotmail.com> WHAT IS THE WEB ADDRESS? >From: Wouter Heijke >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:47:58 +0200 > >Hi everyone, > >It is now easier to geton to the tapetrade list, go to the website and >follow the links...instructions are there! > >Wouter > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Mon Oct 4 15:45:34 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:45:34 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list (last time) References: <19991004133745.64678.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <37F8AF7E.28A794CC@xs4all.nl> To get on the naktree (formerly known as naktapetrade) list got to the website (naks.com) and go to naktalk, choose naktree and follow the instuctions. For all discussions on tape trade and the naktree please use this list, this is and will stay a 'naktalk' list, not a 'naktree' or 'tape trade' list! Thanks, Wouter ed mambruno wrote: > WHAT IS THE WEB ADDRESS? > > >From: Wouter Heijke > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > >To: naktalk at naks.com > >Subject: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list > >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:47:58 +0200 > > > >Hi everyone, > > > >It is now easier to geton to the tapetrade list, go to the website and > >follow the links...instructions are there! > > > >Wouter > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Oct 4 16:32:39 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:32:39 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... References: <000301bf0c40$b484b720$05000006@p4v56> <001d01bf0c46$6655b440$262f2ac4@coqui.net> <37f56a18.2273824@mail.voicenet.com> <37F5731C.F192A844@mediaone.net> <37F739A7.5B6FD28F@ozemail.com.au> <006d01bf0e0e$d4590cc0$d22f2ac4@coqui.net> <37F860C9.347F1CB1@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <003301bf0e75$501b6b80$562f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: mdhjwh To: Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 4:09 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: bottom line ... > We can only dream ! > I an interested as to why you would want Dolby S on a high -end > Reel to reel. Why is it needed? (great for cassette though) > John H > > No, John, not Dolby S. DOLBY SR ! It is a very different animal and an standard on the professional field. When you master at 15 ips using a 1/2" deck , this is the perfect choice to eliminate the hiss. Otherwise, running at 30 ips is seldom used. These units comes outboard. I have the old style, one unit for each channel. The new ones have both channels on one single 19" rack chassis. Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Oct 4 16:39:50 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 10:39:50 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list (last time) References: <19991004133745.64678.qmail@hotmail.com> <37F8AF7E.28A794CC@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <004f01bf0e76$513327a0$562f2ac4@coqui.net> So you hear the Nak God himself , any doubts about how to get in the Nak Tree list may go direct to him off the list, (including me ) ! Ha, Ha, Ha ... Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Wouter Heijke To: Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list (last time) > To get on the naktree (formerly known as naktapetrade) list got to the website > (naks.com) and go to naktalk, choose naktree and follow the instuctions. > For all discussions on tape trade and the naktree please use this list, this is and will > stay a 'naktalk' list, not a 'naktree' or 'tape trade' list! > > Thanks, > > Wouter > > ed mambruno wrote: > > > WHAT IS THE WEB ADDRESS? > > > > >From: Wouter Heijke > > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > > >To: naktalk at naks.com > > >Subject: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list > > >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:47:58 +0200 > > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > > > >It is now easier to geton to the tapetrade list, go to the website and > > >follow the links...instructions are there! > > > > > >Wouter > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From cjsfeng at sfu.ca Mon Oct 4 17:11:24 1999 From: cjsfeng at sfu.ca (Desmond Hidson) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 08:11:24 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Master recording Message-ID: <37F8C393.60C04981@sfu.ca> Greetings Nakamaniacs ... Once again should anyone come across a pair of Nakamichi SF-15's inline Hipass filters for sale, drop me a line, cjsfeng at sfu.ca As for what recording medium one would use? Well first, one must separate the toys (read players) from the various professional master recorders. The vinyl record, the cassette, the CD, the Mini Disc and the MP3 data file are all consumer playback mediums, with the level of musicality and quality pretty well following the same order, best to worst. The Master recorders of choice? Hmmm ... these are a few machines that I know of: The Studer A80 is my recorder of choice though I have it on good authority that Telefunken has (had?) The Master of recorders. It's the European professional recorder of choice apparently, I never had the opportunity to see or use one. Don't be fooled, it is not some consumer 1/4 track model, but a real (pun intended) behemoth of a professional machine. The new model Studer A80 is an A810 ,I do believe (it's been awhile). Some engineers prefer the vacuum tube preamps of the older models and of course there are various mods. Ampex ATR's? Discontinued over a decade ago, Frank Zappa's recorder of choice around the time of Joe's Garage. And of course the infamous Nagra. I know some Mixers prefer to use external mike preamps on the stereo model, they have found the mic preamps not to sound as good as the mono Nagras. Speed: 15 ips if it's a solid bottom end you want. 30 ips for more air and extended highs. Noise reduction: none. But if you suffer noise neurosis, Dolby SR. Record Level? Two machines I have been told that can handle the extended +9 mastering tapes (Ampex 499 by Quantam) without saturating the heads are the Otari flagship and the Studer A810. Otherwise bias and levels are tuned at +6 with Ampex Grand Master 456 or BASF PEM 986 formally Agfa. As for digital? The DASH (Studer, Mitsubishi) format supersedes any cheezy DAT, though DAT is the common format of choice and convenience. However one usually uses an outboard AD whenever possible (something like an Apogee at a 24 bit, 96 kHz sample rate or LINN's pro Numeric AD). Otherwise it's right into your Computer of choice (Macintosh PPC) with the recording software of choice (like Digidesign, though I do not know if ProTools is up to the speed of a G4). Once again one has a choice of AD's. No sound cards please. And then there is the Nagra D. Once all said is done (recording, editing, mastering), one can make as many copies in any consumer format, be it cassette, CD, whatever. Oh, to summarize, if I had the budget I would use both an analogue master recorder and a Nagra D. Vinyl? Duh! Direct to Disc of course, with valve preamps for the cutting lathe. As for the MD dub sounding as good as the CD... time to get a new CD player. Cheers everyone. Desmond ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Mon Oct 4 19:50:59 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 11:50:59 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] other naks? References: <37F6ABD0.3B6AB512@epix.net> Message-ID: <37F8E903.B001D60D@emall-online.com> The Sankyo transport that later Naks used was also used by Onkyo, Kyocera & others, but none of these ever had Nak heads, or anything even close. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer bob wrote: > > Just looked over an old 1992 mag listing cassette decks and it seems > that there are about a half a dozen "NAKs" in disguise...ie. dual > capstan, etc. > Among them Pioneer Elite 93 and 41 models; JVC, Technics, Sony, Teac, > Onkyo etc. etc. > Was that the year that NAK lost its copyright on designs...and they > were mimicked, or did the others just buy > NAK transports? > User comments on some of these decks would be of interest. > bob > /;o) ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From PatersonA at aol.com Tue Oct 5 01:04:20 1999 From: PatersonA at aol.com (PatersonA at aol.com) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:04:20 EDT Subject: [naktalk] (no subject) Message-ID: <1b03afc3.252a8c74@aol.com> seeking service manual for NAK 500 patersona at aol.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Oct 5 01:57:20 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 19:57:20 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] (no subject) References: <1b03afc3.252a8c74@aol.com> Message-ID: <001101bf0ec4$328948e0$532f2ac4@coqui.net> Try e.bay.com Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 7:04 PM Subject: [naktalk] (no subject) > seeking service manual for NAK 500 > > patersona at aol.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Oct 5 15:18:10 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:18:10 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list (last time) References: <19991004133745.64678.qmail@hotmail.com> <37F8AF7E.28A794CC@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <002901bf0f34$12e9ee20$522f2ac4@coqui.net> Wouter: I followed all the instructions and the majordomo program aknowledge my message and confirmed my status. Unfortunately, I send a test message and never get trough. Please let us know what is going on since we don't want to invade the naktalk with naktree issues ; and it is growing fast ! Thanks, The tape man ----- Original Message ----- From: Wouter Heijke To: Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list (last time) > To get on the naktree (formerly known as naktapetrade) list got to the website > (naks.com) and go to naktalk, choose naktree and follow the instuctions. > For all discussions on tape trade and the naktree please use this list, this is and will > stay a 'naktalk' list, not a 'naktree' or 'tape trade' list! > > Thanks, > > Wouter > > ed mambruno wrote: > > > WHAT IS THE WEB ADDRESS? > > > > >From: Wouter Heijke > > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > > >To: naktalk at naks.com > > >Subject: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list > > >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:47:58 +0200 > > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > > > >It is now easier to geton to the tapetrade list, go to the website and > > >follow the links...instructions are there! > > > > > >Wouter > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Tue Oct 5 16:03:27 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 16:03:27 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list (last time) References: <19991004133745.64678.qmail@hotmail.com> <37F8AF7E.28A794CC@xs4all.nl> <002901bf0f34$12e9ee20$522f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <37FA052E.6AE5013E@xs4all.nl> Hi Carlos, I can see you on the naktree list, so mailing to it: naktree at naks.com should work just fine... Until now I saw one message posted on the tree! There are 12 people on the tree including you and me! Wouter Carlos wrote: > Wouter: > > I followed all the instructions and the majordomo program aknowledge my > message and confirmed my status. Unfortunately, I send a test message and > never get trough. > > Please let us know what is going on since we don't want to invade the > naktalk with naktree issues ; and it is growing fast ! > > Thanks, > > The tape man > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wouter Heijke > To: > Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 9:45 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list (last time) > > > To get on the naktree (formerly known as naktapetrade) list got to the > website > > (naks.com) and go to naktalk, choose naktree and follow the instuctions. > > For all discussions on tape trade and the naktree please use this list, > this is and will > > stay a 'naktalk' list, not a 'naktree' or 'tape trade' list! > > > > Thanks, > > > > Wouter > > > > ed mambruno wrote: > > > > > WHAT IS THE WEB ADDRESS? > > > > > > >From: Wouter Heijke > > > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > > > >To: naktalk at naks.com > > > >Subject: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list > > > >Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:47:58 +0200 > > > > > > > >Hi everyone, > > > > > > > >It is now easier to geton to the tapetrade list, go to the website and > > > >follow the links...instructions are there! > > > > > > > >Wouter > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > >resource. > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Tue Oct 5 21:06:24 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:06:24 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] cassette winder Message-ID: <007701bf0f64$b89238c0$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> Someone, either here or on the two-deck list, mentioned the notion of using a cheap transport for fast-winding, thus taking the stress off the "good" deck. The problem, at least as I envision it, is that a cheap transport might not provide the necessary tension control, resulting in an uneven "wrap." The question is -- are you listening, Carlos? -- whether this is something that one needs to be concerned with, or am I just seeing problems where none exist? Thanks for the bandwidth. DD (dubbing from Dragon -> CR-7A) ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From uncle.derek at wanadoo.fr Tue Oct 5 21:19:42 1999 From: uncle.derek at wanadoo.fr (signet olivier) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:19:42 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Hello Message-ID: hello evrybody, that's my first email to Nakalist. first , thanks to Blueswapper who first showed me the interest of naka items when i visited him at home. back to france, i bought an old CTR 1 tapeboard, which completly "renewed" all my tapes. my first question will be : what 's the use of MPX filter button, is that of interest ? Please, try to answer in a simple way, sometimes "technical english" is too much for me. hello from Paris to all nakamaniacs. olivier ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From sir_stewart at hotmail.com Tue Oct 5 23:38:18 1999 From: sir_stewart at hotmail.com (mick s) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 14:38:18 PDT Subject: [naktalk] babelfish Message-ID: <19991005213818.36195.qmail@hotmail.com> Olivier, If you have difficulty understanding English, try visiting http://www.babelfish.altavista.com If you dump the English message into this program, it will translate it into French (and vice versa) Mick ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Wed Oct 6 00:39:39 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 18:39:39 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] cassette winder References: <007701bf0f64$b89238c0$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: <002401bf0f82$85ee1100$eb2f2ac4@coqui.net> This is a thing that I have never concerned of. But, if you need a winder you can buy it from Infonics Inc. in Indiana. From 1 position up to 8. Have 2 of 4 at my facilities. The Tape Man ----- Original Message ----- From: David Drucker To: Nak List Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 1999 3:06 PM Subject: [naktalk] cassette winder > Someone, either here or on the two-deck list, mentioned the notion of using > a cheap transport for fast-winding, thus taking the stress off the "good" > deck. The problem, at least as I envision it, is that a cheap transport > might not provide the necessary tension control, resulting in an uneven > "wrap." > > The question is -- are you listening, Carlos? -- whether this is something > that one needs to be concerned with, or am I just seeing problems where none > exist? > > Thanks for the bandwidth. > > DD (dubbing from Dragon -> CR-7A) > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From rguzzey at stny.rr.com Wed Oct 6 01:07:17 1999 From: rguzzey at stny.rr.com (Rick Guzzey) Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 19:07:17 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi AV-2 reciever Message-ID: <036101bf0f86$5ed33ec0$06915f18@stny.rr.com> I don't know if this is appropriate here. If not I apologize and won't do it again. But I'm getting anxious to find a AV-2 in working good cosmetic condition. Anyone out there help me? I have watched ebay and newsgroups. No luck. Hope this get's to the right person. Thanks Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: tech.gif Type: image/gif Size: 862 bytes Desc: not available URL: From blueswapper at angelfire.com Wed Oct 6 01:32:05 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 16:32:05 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] The way to the NakTree..... Message-ID: Greetings (esp to my dear uncle in Paris, France)!!! I'm sending this email message simultaneously to the NakTalk and NakTree lists. Now, with Cc's to Wouter and Carlos, I'm hopeful that we finally see a NakTree email delivery (that is, if I'm one of the few who have subscribed to ), let the good times roll! I'm intrigued with the prospect of meeting the other twelve (or so) who are interested in fine music exchanges. So here it goes, hopefully we'll all receive this and then get some common dialogue rockin' & rollin'........ Wouter, am I correct when I expect to receive emails from others via ? Please enlighten me, and the others who yearn to get together in cyberspace. Enough PR from Midwest USA, Carlos can do the final negotiations on whether we have a real forum for NakTree hopefuls Mr Blues signing off........ --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Wed Oct 6 01:40:48 1999 From: Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 09:40:48 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Hello In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199910052339.JAA15706@necagmx.neca.nec.com.au> Hi Oliver, The MPX filter switch is used when you are recording from an FM radio station. The stereo pilot signal that is pumped through the airwaves is a 19KHz signal which can confuse the dolby noise reduction system (it will not work correctly), so the MPX filter (multiplex) is used to cut frequencies at around the 19KHz area so that the dolby circuitry will work correctly. I hope this has helped you out. Regards Thomas Siomopoulos -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of signet olivier Sent: Wednesday, 6 October 1999 5:20 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Hello hello evrybody, that's my first email to Nakalist. first , thanks to Blueswapper who first showed me the interest of naka items when i visited him at home. back to france, i bought an old CTR 1 tapeboard, which completly "renewed" all my tapes. my first question will be : what 's the use of MPX filter button, is that of interest ? Please, try to answer in a simple way, sometimes "technical english" is too much for me. hello from Paris to all nakamaniacs. olivier ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Wed Oct 6 07:48:27 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Wed, 06 Oct 1999 15:48:27 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Hello References: Message-ID: <37FAE2AB.A3CE7328@ozemail.com.au> signet olivier wrote:>"what 's the use of MPX filter button, is that of interest ?"< If you are recording from an Fm tuner, and the tuner itself does not effectively filter out the artifacts of the FM carrier multiplex signal it can interact with the bias frequency of your tape deck during recording. This is supposed to have a detrimental effect upon the recording quality but I have never noticed a difference with my tuner (Sugden T48) into the Dragon.. If in doubt use the MPX filter as it really can't do any harm that I am aware of. John H. > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Oct 6 17:10:14 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 16:10:14 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Hello In-Reply-To: <37FAE2AB.A3CE7328@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <000301bf100e$bc039080$05000006@p4v56> Like you, I've never noticed any difference, either. 'Scuse me for sounding cynical but do you suppose this is a case of the Kings New Clothes? Graham I have never noticed a difference with my tuner (Sugden T48) into > the Dragon.. > If in doubt use the MPX filter as it really can't do any harm > that I am > aware of. > > John H. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Wed Oct 6 19:03:01 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 20:03:01 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Hello References: <000301bf100e$bc039080$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <015a01bf101c$a767f540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Hi Nakkers, The MPX filter is very usable when you recording from cheap tuner or CD-player, that still has digital artefacts with frequency 19 kHz (for tuners) and higer than 20 kHz for CD-player with bad digital filtration. These noise artifactes will confuse Dolby circut, as Dolby will recognise these noise and correct encoding for recording, and will never see these nosise (of very low level, BTW) when reading from the tape - so Dolby circuit will not decode properly. Michael > Like you, I've never noticed any difference, either. 'Scuse me for sounding > cynical but do you suppose this is a case of the Kings New Clothes? > > Graham > > I have never noticed a difference with my tuner (Sugden T48) into > > the Dragon.. > > If in doubt use the MPX filter as it really can't do any harm > > that I am > > aware of. > > > > John H. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From uncle.derek at pop.wanadoo.fr Sat Oct 9 17:08:42 1999 From: uncle.derek at pop.wanadoo.fr (signet olivier) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1999 17:08:42 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Naks and Mac Message-ID: Hey everybody, This is only a Nakarelative question. Is there among us , any one driving CDrs from Naka tapes through Macintosh computers ? I'm using nowadays Ultra recorder to save sound from tape to AIFF files, then Adaptec Toast 3 5 7 to drive CDRs. I've seen in Apple Paris Expoa demo of Adaptec Toast 4 who will have functionnalities toclean sound coming from old vynils sources. I'm waiting for the french version to be released. Has anybody got a better solution . thanks to all Nakamaniacs, specially to lot of peoplewho answered me about Mpx filters cheers olivier ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From enoyes at snet.net Sun Oct 10 03:50:53 1999 From: enoyes at snet.net (Ed Noyes) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 1999 21:50:53 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Naks and Mac References: Message-ID: <37FFF0FC.E0C5B4F0@snet.net> An interesting question as I recently picked up a Philips stand alone CD-R for the purpose of transferring my extensive collection of live tapes with my Nak CR7A. I had thought quite a bit about using my Mac, but had concerns over the quality of the A to D converters built into the computer (an imac). Anyone out there had any experience with the Macs... sorry that this is not strictly Nak related, but the disks are derived from mostly analog sources which of course would be played on my beloved Nakamichi! Thanks All, Ed signet olivier wrote: > Hey everybody, > > This is only a Nakarelative question. > Is there among us , any one driving CDrs from Naka tapes through Macintosh > computers ? > > I'm using nowadays Ultra recorder to save sound from tape to AIFF files, > then Adaptec Toast 3 5 7 to drive CDRs. > > I've seen in Apple Paris Expoa demo of Adaptec Toast 4 who will have > functionnalities toclean sound coming from old vynils sources. I'm waiting > for the french version to be released. > > Has anybody got a better solution . > > thanks to all Nakamaniacs, specially to lot of peoplewho answered me about > Mpx filters > cheers > olivier > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Sun Oct 10 05:57:15 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 13:57:15 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Naks and Mac References: Message-ID: <38000E9A.5100D49A@ozemail.com.au> I have attempted to produce decent recordings with several mac and PC sound cards only to give up in frustration. As yet I don't know if this is the fault of the cards themselves or the fact that the inside of a computer is a dirty RFI saturated environment. The best option I have encountered is to use an external A/D converter. As of now I'm staying with analogue as I suggest that mac/PC recording has a long way to go before it can be considered musically satisfying through any revealing hi-end system. John H. signet olivier wrote: > Hey everybody, > > This is only a Nakarelative question. > Is there among us , any one driving CDrs from Naka tapes through Macintosh > computers ? > > I'm using nowadays Ultra recorder to save sound from tape to AIFF files, > then Adaptec Toast 3 5 7 to drive CDRs. > > I've seen in Apple Paris Expoa demo of Adaptec Toast 4 who will have > functionnalities toclean sound coming from old vynils sources. I'm waiting > for the french version to be released. > > Has anybody got a better solution . > > thanks to all Nakamaniacs, specially to lot of peoplewho answered me about > Mpx filters > cheers > olivier > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From enoyes at snet.net Sun Oct 10 06:11:54 1999 From: enoyes at snet.net (Ed Noyes) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 00:11:54 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Naks and Mac References: <38000E9A.5100D49A@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <38001209.E5C60BDF@snet.net> I will not pull this non Nak thread any further, but this was my suspicion... which ultimately led to my decision to use a stand alone recorder. Of course the cassette masters won't be going anywhere except into archive storage... funny how in the old days I'd use cassettes to back up my originals (LPs & CDs), but now its CDs to back up the cassettes. Ed mdhjwh wrote: > I have attempted to produce decent recordings with several mac and > PC sound cards only to give up in frustration. > As yet I don't know if this is the fault of the cards themselves or the > fact that the inside of a computer is a dirty RFI saturated environment. > The best option I have encountered is to use an external A/D converter. > As of now I'm staying with analogue as I suggest that mac/PC recording > has a long way to go before it can be considered musically satisfying > through any revealing hi-end system. > John H. > > signet olivier wrote: > > > Hey everybody, > > > > This is only a Nakarelative question. > > Is there among us , any one driving CDrs from Naka tapes through Macintosh > > computers ? > > > > I'm using nowadays Ultra recorder to save sound from tape to AIFF files, > > then Adaptec Toast 3 5 7 to drive CDRs. > > > > I've seen in Apple Paris Expoa demo of Adaptec Toast 4 who will have > > functionnalities toclean sound coming from old vynils sources. I'm waiting > > for the french version to be released. > > > > Has anybody got a better solution . > > > > thanks to all Nakamaniacs, specially to lot of peoplewho answered me about > > Mpx filters > > cheers > > olivier > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From japho at cunyvm.cuny.edu Sun Oct 10 11:03:38 1999 From: japho at cunyvm.cuny.edu (Javier Perez) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 05:03:38 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Info on 700 and 700II Message-ID: <38005669.8032A6CA@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Hi everyone My name is Javier. I have just subscribed to the list and have been trying to retrieve archives (majordomo < index naktalk) but apparently there ain't any. I'm trying to get as much info on the 700 and 700II decks. Having just bought 1 of each for 100 a pop, I'm wunderin what I'm in for. Cosmetics on the II are excellent and just plain good on the original. But I have no idea how they are operationally. Does anybody have any idea on the construction intricacies. ie: how similar are they? Are most parts interchangeable? How much are new heads? I bought both on the gamble that could serve as a parts unit for the other. Are there any problems I should look out for? How robust is the transport? Also, what's the best/most competitive parts source? Any known tweaks? Finally, how good are they? Do they compare sonically to the CR7 1000ZXE and Dragon? Any ideas are greatly appreciated Best Regards Javier ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Mon Oct 11 00:36:51 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 23:36:51 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Message for Carlos ... Message-ID: <01BF1378.580E5200.graham@nelson3.freeserve.co.uk> Carlos I lost the PC big time and with it ALL my Outlook files, including your e-mail and home address for the cassette I'm doing for you. Please send again. Thanks Graham ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Oct 11 01:47:37 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 19:47:37 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Message for Carlos ... References: <01BF1378.580E5200.graham@nelson3.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: <001701bf1379$d5f46f00$7f2f2ac4@coqui.net> Hi Graham: No problem my friend. Carlos J. Guzman P.O. Box 219 Ceiba, Puerto Rico 00735-0219 Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Nelson To: Sent: Sunday, October 10, 1999 6:36 PM Subject: [naktalk] Message for Carlos ... > Carlos > > I lost the PC big time and with it ALL my Outlook files, including your e-mail and home address for the cassette I'm doing for you. > > Please send again. > > Thanks > > Graham > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From dubdokta at yahoo.com Mon Oct 11 02:20:26 1999 From: dubdokta at yahoo.com (Patrick Dokter) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 17:20:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [naktalk] lx-3 and 670zx for sale Message-ID: <19991011002026.24519.rocketmail@web602.mail.yahoo.com> hi guys, the pain is awful, but my wife just insists that i get rid of at least 2 naks, as i already have 8 of them. here we go: 1 - a pristine LX-3 (120V), with original manual and in absolutely great condition. you know where to get the specs'n'stuff. my price is $250 plus shipping. 2 - a classic 670zx, just came back from being serviced (receipt available, new VU meter block, belts, calibration and potmeters - $175). The mounting handles are included of course, although i have to say that the top side of the deck looks a bit scratchy. i was going to fix that (a nice spraying job), but i guess i'll leave that to the next owner. This one's currently on 220-240V, but can easily be switched to 120V. my price is $425. If you got any questions or what so ever, pls contact me: dubdokta at yahoo.com best, patrick ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From obstec at networx.net.au Sun Oct 10 19:10:44 1999 From: obstec at networx.net.au (Mike Clanton) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 01:10:44 +0800 Subject: [naktalk] Info on 700 and 700II Message-ID: <000601bf1384$c6e6f9a0$74de3dca@oemcomputer> Please recsend your message..Message received in error. Thanks Michael at comcom.com.au -----Original Message----- From: Javier Perez To: naktalk at naks.com Date: Sunday, 10 October 1999 5:13 Subject: [naktalk] Info on 700 and 700II > >Hi everyone >My name is Javier. I have just subscribed to the list >and have been trying to retrieve archives (majordomo < index naktalk) >but apparently there ain't any. I'm trying to get as much info on the >700 and 700II decks. Having just bought 1 of each for >100 a pop, I'm wunderin what I'm in for. Cosmetics on the II >are excellent and just plain good on the original. But I have no idea >how they are operationally. Does anybody have any idea on the >construction intricacies. ie: how similar are they? Are most parts >interchangeable? How much are new heads? I bought both on the >gamble that could serve as a parts unit for the other. Are there any >problems I should look out for? How robust is the transport? Also, >what's the best/most competitive parts source? Any known tweaks? >Finally, how good are they? Do they compare sonically to the CR7 >1000ZXE and Dragon? Any ideas are greatly appreciated >Best Regards >Javier > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From warren2 at gate.net Mon Oct 11 03:31:25 1999 From: warren2 at gate.net (Warren Tremain) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 1999 21:31:25 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] New Naks References: <38000E9A.5100D49A@ozemail.com.au> <38001209.E5C60BDF@snet.net> Message-ID: <01ee01bf1388$5970ade0$0ac524cf@warren2> According to the Hifi News review the new Naks are really re-issues of the dr2 and dr3 So my question relates to the earlier series is the Dr1 much better than the Dr2? Thanks ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From augiedogs at mciworld.com Mon Oct 11 18:30:25 1999 From: augiedogs at mciworld.com (augiedogs) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 11:30:25 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] To: naktalk@naks.com Message-ID: <001501bf1405$ed86f520$9bd8193f@augiedogs> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From copytec at coqui.net Tue Oct 12 20:18:28 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:18:28 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale Message-ID: <00d101bf14de$2efea9c0$e22f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello Fellows: The Nakamichi 500, 600 and 700 ZXl were sold ! Anybody interested in a 700 for $175.00 or an almost brand new 700 II price upon request ) ? Also, Revox B-77 Open Reel for $499.00 best, The Tape Man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From geoff.horton at virgin.net Tue Oct 12 22:11:07 1999 From: geoff.horton at virgin.net (Horton) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:11:07 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] New Naks References: <38000E9A.5100D49A@ozemail.com.au> <38001209.E5C60BDF@snet.net> <01ee01bf1388$5970ade0$0ac524cf@warren2> Message-ID: <380395DB.938@virgin.net> Warren Tremain wrote: > > According to the Hifi News review > the new Naks are really re-issues of the dr2 and dr3 > So my question relates to the earlier series > is the Dr1 much better than the Dr2? > Thanks > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Warren, I've never had a DR2, but I find the adjustable azimuth on the DR1 priceless! It doesnt need to be far off to lose all the top end of the signal. I would say dont buy a DR2 until you have heard a DR1. Rgds. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From TRANSPLATA at aol.com Tue Oct 12 22:56:25 1999 From: TRANSPLATA at aol.com (TRANSPLATA at aol.com) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 16:56:25 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale Message-ID: <0.3e189947.2534fa79@aol.com> Carlos what is the condition of the B-77? Is it a quarter or half track ? Saludos, Jean-Pierre ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From japho at cunyvm.cuny.edu Wed Oct 13 06:09:33 1999 From: japho at cunyvm.cuny.edu (Javier Perez) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 00:09:33 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Another 700 question References: <00d101bf14de$2efea9c0$e22f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <380405FD.2A5B630E@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Hi All Well, I got the pair of 700s in the mail and had one working in a couple of hours the second will need some work on the head board I've got a non techie question that shouldn't be too hard to answer. Simply, how good is the sound coming out of a proplerly calibrated 700 or 700 s2 compared to a CR7 or Dragon. Any ideas Best regards Javier ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From scout at ATH.FORTHNET.GR Wed Oct 13 06:49:45 1999 From: scout at ATH.FORTHNET.GR (takis Depastas) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:49:45 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale References: <00d101bf14de$2efea9c0$e22f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <000001bf153f$41a02340$511bdbc2@mycom> ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos To: Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 9:18 PM Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale > Hello Fellows: > > The Nakamichi 500, 600 and 700 ZXl were sold ! > > Anybody interested in a 700 for $175.00 or an almost brand new 700 II > price upon request ) ? > > Also, Revox B-77 Open Reel for $499.00 > > best, > > The Tape Man > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========-----------------------------------------------------------------hi , I am interesting for one of these, maybe for the 700 II. Please sendme some info and the prices. thanks ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Wed Oct 13 13:47:39 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:47:39 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Another 700 question References: <00d101bf14de$2efea9c0$e22f2ac4@coqui.net> <380405FD.2A5B630E@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Message-ID: <002901bf1570$c1095d00$842f2ac4@coqui.net> Javier: Don't loose your time trying to compare the very old 700's with a Dragon or CR-7, perhaps one of the best cassettes ever made. The 700's are a matter of collection, not sound, I have 2 myself and perhaps my 700 II is the best example you'll ever find of a deck like that with original double carton, manual and like new, I mean it !, like new. Very rare for a 20+ years deck. Cosmetics and electronics are like new and completely clean inside and outside, BUT, the sound is never as a new NAK. As a matter of fact, most of the masters I do for the Nak Tree are recorded in the 700 II. She looks gorgeous at my living room. BUT I don't use her for duplication purposes. Carlos The Tape Man ----- Original Message ----- From: Javier Perez To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:09 AM Subject: [naktalk] Another 700 question > > Hi All > Well, I got the pair of 700s in the mail > and had one working in a couple of hours > the second will need some work on the head board > > I've got a non techie question that shouldn't be too hard > to answer. Simply, how good is the sound coming out > of a proplerly calibrated 700 or 700 s2 compared to a > CR7 or Dragon. > > Any ideas > > Best regards > Javier > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Wed Oct 13 13:55:43 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:55:43 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale References: <0.3e189947.2534fa79@aol.com> Message-ID: <005201bf1571$e1751e20$842f2ac4@coqui.net> It is 1/4 track domestic version in nice condition and ridiculous priced. Interested, my friend ? Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale > Carlos what is the condition of the B-77? Is it a quarter or half track ? > Saludos, > Jean-Pierre > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Wed Oct 13 13:59:29 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:59:29 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale References: <00d101bf14de$2efea9c0$e22f2ac4@coqui.net> <000001bf153f$41a02340$511bdbc2@mycom> Message-ID: <005a01bf1572$681c3f80$842f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello Takis: The 700 II I have is perhaps the best example of such a deck in the world, and I mean it ! It is like new, inside and outside, and comes with the original double carton, original manual and schematics copy. I can not describe with words the amazing condition this deck is. I paid for her $600.00 last year to the original owner ! I'm asking the top dollar price for it: $550.00 If you are really serious about collection or else, I give you my word that this is the best deck of such years you'll ever find ! Best, The Tape Man (Carlos) ----- Original Message ----- From: takis Depastas To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:49 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carlos > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 9:18 PM > Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale > > > > Hello Fellows: > > > > The Nakamichi 500, 600 and 700 ZXl were sold ! > > > > Anybody interested in a 700 for $175.00 or an almost brand new 700 II > > price upon request ) ? > > > > Also, Revox B-77 Open Reel for $499.00 > > > > best, > > > > The Tape Man > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========-----------------------------------------------------------------hi > , > I am interesting for one of these, maybe for the 700 II. Please sendme some > info and the prices. > thanks > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From countach at ptd.net Thu Oct 14 00:05:32 1999 From: countach at ptd.net (Jonathan Strack) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 18:05:32 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale Message-ID: <000e01bf15c7$12136780$1735bacc@strack> Hey, I remember Carlos offering me this deck for $225. So, why does the price suddenly go up now? This deck offers NO compatibility with metal tapes (the best tapes with the fullest dynamic range). I just can't see EVER paying 550 for this when you can get a nice ZX-7 for that, and even a ZX-9. Good luck, and hope you find a moron. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Carlos To: naktalk at naks.com Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale >Hello Takis: > >The 700 II I have is perhaps the best example of such a deck in the world, >and I mean it ! It is like new, inside and outside, and comes with the >original double carton, original manual and schematics copy. I can not >describe with words the amazing condition this deck is. I paid for her >$600.00 last year to the original owner ! I'm asking the top dollar price >for it: $550.00 > >If you are really serious about collection or else, I give you my word that >this is the best deck of such years you'll ever find ! > >Best, > >The Tape Man (Carlos) >----- Original Message ----- >From: takis Depastas >To: >Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:49 AM >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Carlos >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 9:18 PM >> Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale >> >> >> > Hello Fellows: >> > >> > The Nakamichi 500, 600 and 700 ZXl were sold ! >> > >> > Anybody interested in a 700 for $175.00 or an almost brand new 700 II >> > price upon request ) ? >> > >> > Also, Revox B-77 Open Reel for $499.00 >> > >> > best, >> > >> > The Tape Man >> > >> > >> >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = >> ======= >> > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >> resource. >> > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> > >> >========-----------------------------------------------------------------hi >> , >> I am interesting for one of these, maybe for the 700 II. Please sendme >some >> info and the prices. >> thanks >> >> >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = >======= >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = >======= >> >> > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Oct 14 01:24:40 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:24:40 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale References: <000e01bf15c7$12136780$1735bacc@strack> Message-ID: <000701bf15d2$23975920$2c2f2ac4@coqui.net> Jonathan: I'm so sorry about your egoistical attitude. As a matter of fact, the one I offered to you at $225.00 is the same original 700 at $175.00 now, as you can see, instead of going up it has come down. The other deck in question is a 700 II in absolutely pristine condition that for some "morons" have no value but for the real connosieur and collector it is a jewel at a fair price. As I recall, first you say can't buy the machine and later you were looking for a Dragon or 700 ZXL, for how much you think these decks goes ? No less than $800.00. Now, you are so worry about metal tape compatibility, why? if I may ask. To help eating your heads faster and record your CD's with ear piercing highs and pay a fortune for a C-90 ? It is obvious that the things you know about Nakamichis are because you read it somewhere. Next time, please keep your opinions for yourself if you are not interested in anything for sale at this list. Live and let live. People that really know about cassette decks , really know also about how far can go to add a certain piece for his/her collection without external " expert " opinions. Unfortunately you have call all of us " morons "... As a friendly advise, before pressing the send button think first before comitting yourself. If you read below you'll realize how wrong your comment was. Truly yours, Carlos J. Guzman still THE TAPE MAN ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Strack To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 6:05 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale > Hey, > I remember Carlos offering me this deck for $225. So, why does the > price suddenly go up now? This deck offers NO compatibility with metal > tapes (the best tapes with the fullest dynamic range). I just can't see > EVER paying 550 for this when you can get a nice ZX-7 for that, and even a > ZX-9. > > Good luck, and hope you find a moron. > > Jon > > > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Carlos > >> To: > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 9:18 PM > >> Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale > >> > >> > >> > Anybody interested in a 700 for $175.00 or an almost brand new 700 II > >> > price upon request ) ? ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Oct 14 01:31:50 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 19:31:50 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] My Apologies Message-ID: <001f01bf15d3$2022d660$2c2f2ac4@coqui.net> To all Nak List readers: I want to respectfully extend my apologies for some of the posts about my sales going on "public". It was supposed to go direct and private to the persons interested. Next time I'll be more careful. Thanks for your considerations, The Tape Man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mpatrick at voicenet.com Thu Oct 14 02:07:38 1999 From: mpatrick at voicenet.com (FabFourFan) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 00:07:38 GMT Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale In-Reply-To: <005201bf1571$e1751e20$842f2ac4@coqui.net> References: <0.3e189947.2534fa79@aol.com> <005201bf1571$e1751e20$842f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <38051e30.11896413@mail.voicenet.com> Carlos, Is this still available? What were you asking for it? Also, do you have a 1/2 tk machine that will do 3.75 ips - I need one for old UK prerecorded reels. Yes, I love my Dragon for playback of cassettes, but I really need something comparable for 3.75 and 7.5 ips prerecorded reels. Thanks for your time!! Mike Patrick Phila PA USA 610-296-5014 On Wed, 13 Oct 1999 07:55:43 -0400, you wrote: >It is 1/4 track domestic version in nice condition and ridiculous priced. >Interested, my friend ? > >Best, >Carlos > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 4:56 PM >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale > > >> Carlos what is the condition of the B-77? Is it a quarter or half track ? >> Saludos, >> Jean-Pierre ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From enoyes at snet.net Thu Oct 14 04:20:48 1999 From: enoyes at snet.net (Ed Noyes) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:20:48 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale References: <000e01bf15c7$12136780$1735bacc@strack> Message-ID: <38053E00.93B444BD@snet.net> I believe Carlos was referring to the older 700 when he mentioned $225 (in fact the price dropped to $175... I'd grab it in a heartbeat if I had the spare cash laying around). As far as $550 for a 700II, you'd be suprised at what people will pay for that deck in the kind of condition it sounds like its in. As the owner of both a 700II and CR7A, I will be the first to say that the 7A is definitely a better sounding deck, but the 700II has a classic look and feel (not to mention true history) that makes it one of a kind (even more than the 1000 due to its stellar looks). It also does sound wonderfully warm and open too and should not be discredited sound wise by any means. It would not be a moron who buys that deck, but rather an avid collector Ed Jonathan Strack wrote: > Hey, > I remember Carlos offering me this deck for $225. So, why does the > price suddenly go up now? This deck offers NO compatibility with metal > tapes (the best tapes with the fullest dynamic range). I just can't see > EVER paying 550 for this when you can get a nice ZX-7 for that, and even a > ZX-9. > > Good luck, and hope you find a moron. > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos > To: naktalk at naks.com > Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 8:15 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale > > >Hello Takis: > > > >The 700 II I have is perhaps the best example of such a deck in the world, > >and I mean it ! It is like new, inside and outside, and comes with the > >original double carton, original manual and schematics copy. I can not > >describe with words the amazing condition this deck is. I paid for her > >$600.00 last year to the original owner ! I'm asking the top dollar price > >for it: $550.00 > > > >If you are really serious about collection or else, I give you my word that > >this is the best deck of such years you'll ever find ! > > > >Best, > > > >The Tape Man (Carlos) > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: takis Depastas > >To: > >Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:49 AM > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale > > > > > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: Carlos > >> To: > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 9:18 PM > >> Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale > >> > >> > >> > Hello Fellows: > >> > > >> > The Nakamichi 500, 600 and 700 ZXl were sold ! > >> > > >> > Anybody interested in a 700 for $175.00 or an almost brand new 700 II > >> > price upon request ) ? > >> > > >> > Also, Revox B-77 Open Reel for $499.00 > >> > > >> > best, > >> > > >> > The Tape Man > >> > > >> > > >> > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > = > >> ======= > >> > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >> resource. > >> > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >> > > >> > >========-----------------------------------------------------------------hi > >> , > >> I am interesting for one of these, maybe for the 700 II. Please sendme > >some > >> info and the prices. > >> thanks > >> > >> > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > = > >======= > >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >> > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > = > >======= > >> > >> > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Oct 14 06:28:59 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 00:28:59 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale References: <000e01bf15c7$12136780$1735bacc@strack> <38053E00.93B444BD@snet.net> Message-ID: <002601bf15fd$1ee1ffe0$842f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello Ed: If only you can see this 700 II you wouldn't believe the nice conditions she is in. Original double carton and manual. I even have the Nakamichi lines ! If you find a better example of such a deck it is because it was probably NOS and never got out of the box ! I've been dealing with cassette decks all my life, and this one really struck me because I simply couldn't believe it ! SO, I'm not in a hurry to sell her and if anybody wants it, simply has to pay what it cost. I agree 100% with you about the sound. It is not the best sounding Nakamichi but it's truly one of the most beautiful and rare breeds I have ever seen. Ths other one that really amaze me is the 700 ZXL. Unfortunately this model was so ahead of its time and complex that were prone to problems. Same with the 1000 ZXL. This is another story: I bought this 1000 ZXL in an almost sealed box !!! I'm not bull shitting, this was one of those rare cases were a pair of Kliphshorns and the Nak were sitting in a corner after the owner passed away in Florida.. This were part of his estate. The price, OHH, I can't tell you because you wouldn't sleep tonight, but how much you think this deck will cost if I want to sell it ? No less than $1,500 I swear . We have to remember that the prices depends on the model and condition the deck is. I have seen Dragon's that I wouldn't pay $500.00 while others I have paid over $1,000. It also depends of how bad you want the piece. My rating standards are rigid. The 700 is selling so low because it has a couple of small scratches on the brushed aluminum face and I can't call it " MINT" condition, but the 700 II, no way Jose, that is what I call " Like New ". The only thing I can tell you is that when you find such a deck in such unbelievable conditions, GRAB IT, you'll never find another one again ! Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Ed Noyes To: Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale > I believe Carlos was referring to the older 700 when he mentioned $225 (in fact the > price dropped to $175... I'd grab it in a heartbeat if I had the spare cash laying > around). As far as $550 for a 700II, you'd be suprised at what people will pay for > that deck in the kind of condition it sounds like its in. > It would not be a moron who buys that deck, but rather an avid collector > > Ed ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From japho at cunyvm.cuny.edu Thu Oct 14 07:28:05 1999 From: japho at cunyvm.cuny.edu (Javier Perez) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 01:28:05 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale References: <000e01bf15c7$12136780$1735bacc@strack> Message-ID: <380569E5.12816C7E@cunyvm.cuny.edu> According to what I've seen The difference between SA/XL2 and MA is minimal enough not to warrant the extra expenditure on tapes Besides, if you are going to spend that much money on tapes Why just not go to recordable CD instead. Javier as low as 400 for the recorder and $1 per cd blank Javier ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Oct 14 14:27:52 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:27:52 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] NAKAMICHI DRAGON Message-ID: <004501bf163f$893eacc0$492f2ac4@coqui.net> Hellow Folks: Anybody out there looking for a nice Dragon deck ? I don't think I need 3,so, one has to go. Best, The Tape Man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From LDEVOE at mail.mcg.edu Thu Oct 14 15:05:14 1999 From: LDEVOE at mail.mcg.edu (Lawrence Devoe) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:05:14 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] NAKAMICHI DRAGON Message-ID: I am looking for either a CR7A, ideally in near mint condition although the Dragon in similar condition would be a second choice. I don't need reversing capability and my recollection is that the CR7A had wireless remote while the DRagon had wired remote. Would appreciate any help with these items. I have a CR1 that I have had for several years but it is not built tothe quality of these older decks. I also have hundreds of excellent "air-check" cassettes that I enjoy listening to. >>> "Carlos" 10/14/99 08:27AM >>> Hellow Folks: Anybody out there looking for a nice Dragon deck ? I don't think I need 3,so, one has to go. Best, The Tape Man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From magic at bdg.centrin.net.id Thu Oct 14 16:02:00 1999 From: magic at bdg.centrin.net.id (Jo Jo) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:02:00 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] NAKAMICHI DRAGON References: <004501bf163f$893eacc0$492f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <3805E257.7840CFE2@bdg.centrin.net.id> May I know it more, about the price, etc ? Thanks. Carlos wrote: > Hellow Folks: > > Anybody out there looking for a nice Dragon deck ? I don't think I need > 3,so, one has to go. > > Best, > > The Tape Man > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From tapes at pls-inc.com Thu Oct 14 15:59:09 1999 From: tapes at pls-inc.com (J W Norris) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 06:59:09 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Nak comparisons References: <199910141233.OAA16368@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <00aa01bf164c$523517c0$0501a8c0@jw> Carlos, You have spoken [written, I guess is more appropriate] on the Dragon and the 700ZXL. In light of these fine decks, what is your opinion of the 700ZXE? Thanks, J W Norris ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From merhan at hilite-ind.com Thu Oct 14 18:03:18 1999 From: merhan at hilite-ind.com (MERHAN) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:03:18 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] System One Message-ID: Hello, Does anybody know anybody that is willing to part with a Complete System One?? (Complete 600 series with Rack) Mino E. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Oct 14 21:02:50 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:02:50 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Nak comparisons References: <199910141233.OAA16368@zebra.naks.com> <00aa01bf164c$523517c0$0501a8c0@jw> Message-ID: <002501bf1676$b6bdb060$bc2f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello Mr. Norris: Basically, is the same ZXL version but with 2 or 3 features less. Sonically speaking, for me sounds identical since the electronics, heads and mechanism are the same. Also, a second hand ZXE cost much less than a ZXL. You wouldn't be dissapointed with a fine 700 ZXE. It also looks as gorgeous at its counterpart ZXL ! Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: J W Norris To: Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 9:59 AM Subject: [naktalk] Nak comparisons > Carlos, > > You have spoken [written, I guess is more appropriate] on the Dragon and the > 700ZXL. In light of these fine decks, what is your opinion of the 700ZXE? > > Thanks, > > J W Norris > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Oct 14 21:06:03 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:06:03 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] System One References: Message-ID: <004501bf1677$29733a80$bc2f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello Mino: If you find such an opportunity, you'll be very lucky ! Good luck ! Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: MERHAN To: 'Nakamichi Group' Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 12:03 PM Subject: [naktalk] System One > Hello, > > Does anybody know anybody that is willing to part with a Complete System > One?? (Complete 600 series with Rack) > > Mino E. > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MDvorkin at opticalnetworks.com Thu Oct 14 23:56:51 1999 From: MDvorkin at opticalnetworks.com (Mike Dvorkin) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:56:51 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] NAKAMICHI DRAGON Message-ID: Carlos, I'll be very brief.. What kind of shape is it in? How much? Thank you, Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos [mailto:copytec at coqui.net] > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 5:28 AM > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] NAKAMICHI DRAGON > > > Hellow Folks: > > Anybody out there looking for a nice Dragon deck ? I don't > think I need > 3,so, one has to go. > > Best, > > The Tape Man > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Thu Oct 14 22:55:23 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 21:55:23 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale Message-ID: <01BF1698.779A3C60.graham@nelson3.freeserve.co.uk> Woah! R U sure it's the same deck? And even if it is, surely the machine is worth whatever anyone is willing to pay ... there ain't some book retail price for this gear. Graham -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Strack [SMTP:countach at ptd.net] Sent: 13 October 1999 23:06 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale Hey, I remember Carlos offering me this deck for $225. So, why does the price suddenly go up now? This deck offers NO compatibility with metal tapes (the best tapes with the fullest dynamic range). I just can't see EVER paying 550 for this when you can get a nice ZX-7 for that, and even a ZX-9. Good luck, and hope you find a moron. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Carlos To: naktalk at naks.com Date: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 8:15 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale >Hello Takis: > >The 700 II I have is perhaps the best example of such a deck in the world, >and I mean it ! It is like new, inside and outside, and comes with the >original double carton, original manual and schematics copy. I can not >describe with words the amazing condition this deck is. I paid for her >$600.00 last year to the original owner ! I'm asking the top dollar price >for it: $550.00 > >If you are really serious about collection or else, I give you my word that >this is the best deck of such years you'll ever find ! > >Best, > >The Tape Man (Carlos) >----- Original Message ----- >From: takis Depastas >To: >Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 12:49 AM >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale > > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Carlos >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 1999 9:18 PM >> Subject: [naktalk] Last Nakamichi For Sale >> >> >> > Hello Fellows: >> > >> > The Nakamichi 500, 600 and 700 ZXl were sold ! >> > >> > Anybody interested in a 700 for $175.00 or an almost brand new 700 II >> > price upon request ) ? >> > >> > Also, Revox B-77 Open Reel for $499.00 >> > >> > best, >> > >> > The Tape Man >> > >> > >> >========--------------------------------------------------------------- ---= = >> ======= >> > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >> resource. >> > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> > >> >========--------------------------------------------------------------- --hi >> , >> I am interesting for one of these, maybe for the 700 II. Please sendme >some >> info and the prices. >> thanks >> >> >========--------------------------------------------------------------- ---= = >======= >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> >========--------------------------------------------------------------- ---= = >======= >> >> > >========--------------------------------------------------------------- ---= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========--------------------------------------------------------------- ---= ======== > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Fri Oct 15 00:16:18 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:16:18 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak manuals (pdf format) Message-ID: Wouter! Please remind us how to access the Nak manual info in pdf format. I'm looking for RX-505 & RX-202. If those aren't available, might someone else have copies that I might access? Many thanks....... Mr Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 00:11:40 Wouter Heijke wrote: >Raul and Winfried are picking up the PDF project again, which is very >good I think! If anyone else feels like scanning their Nak >brochures,manuals, flyers or any other printed material please step >forward! Scanning brochures to another format may be useful as well! > >There was a time when I had several PDF manuals, then they were all lost >when I installed the new Readhat Linux 6.0 on a new disk in my server >and the Redhat installer decided that my second disk (with the PDF >files) should be repartitioned and wiped so there went my manuals and I >couldn't do a thing! >No backup, you guessed! >But I managed to find most of the manuals and am missing a few, which >Winfried will supply to me, and then there is the LX5 manual that's >still missing... >So my question to you all is if anyone has this manual and wants to send >it to me? If you have it let me know then I'll give you directions where >to send it to! > >Thanks, > >Wouter > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck page. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From countach at ptd.net Fri Oct 15 00:46:16 1999 From: countach at ptd.net (Jonathan Strack) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 18:46:16 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] NAKAMICHI DRAGON Message-ID: <000e01bf1695$ed33db00$c447bacc@strack> Wow, you lucky guy, you have THREE DRAGONS!! That kicks ass! I am not interested, too broke, but just thought I'd tell you that that kicks ASS. What do you do with them all? I am just sort of curious how 2 or 3 is better than one. Oh, wait, it is good for copying tapes to have two. I'm learning.. Jon -----Original Message----- From: Carlos To: naktalk at naks.com Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 8:43 AM Subject: [naktalk] NAKAMICHI DRAGON >Hellow Folks: > >Anybody out there looking for a nice Dragon deck ? I don't think I need >3,so, one has to go. > >Best, > >The Tape Man > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Oct 15 04:54:34 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 22:54:34 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] NAKAMICHI DRAGON References: <000e01bf1695$ed33db00$c447bacc@strack> Message-ID: <004b01bf16b8$9cf727a0$982f2ac4@coqui.net> One is going for repairs. The second one is my most reliable one and oldest. The third is the newest one taking too much space and willing to find a new home. After all, I have too many decks around,well, use to because I have sell most of them already. Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Jonathan Strack To: Sent: Thursday, October 14, 1999 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] NAKAMICHI DRAGON > Wow, you lucky guy, you have THREE DRAGONS!! That kicks ass! I am not > interested, too broke, but just thought I'd tell you that that kicks ASS. > What do you do with them all? I am just sort of curious how 2 or 3 is > better than one. Oh, wait, it is good for copying tapes to have two. I'm > learning.. > > Jon > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carlos > To: naktalk at naks.com > Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 8:43 AM > Subject: [naktalk] NAKAMICHI DRAGON > > > >Hellow Folks: > > > >Anybody out there looking for a nice Dragon deck ? I don't think I need > >3,so, one has to go. > > > >Best, > > > >The Tape Man > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Scalnajim at aol.com Fri Oct 15 06:08:30 1999 From: Scalnajim at aol.com (Scalnajim at aol.com) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 00:08:30 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Nak comparisons Message-ID: <0.654ad1ba.253802be@aol.com> Norris, The 700 ZXL is different sonically then the 700ZXE. The difference is in the electronics, the auto-calibration system on the 700ZXL goes one step further then the 700ZXE, it adds record equalization adjustment. 700 ZXE = Head Azimuth,Bias current, and record/playback Level. 18-23k +/- 3db, 20-20k +/-2db. 700ZXL = Head Azimuth,Bias current, record/playback Level, record Equalization. A.B.L.E. 18-24k +/- 3db, 20-20k +/-1.5db Scott Al-najim. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Oct 15 14:45:10 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 08:45:10 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Nak comparisons References: <0.654ad1ba.253802be@aol.com> Message-ID: <004501bf170b$1e792c40$662f2ac4@coqui.net> Scott is right, but the minimal difference in sound in those days ($2,200 for a ZXE and $3,000 for a ZXL) doesn't worthed the money difference and by the way: there're simply more ZXE available working good around than ZXL. Why ? I think I already explained that. Besides, people are asking crazy prices for ZXL lately and most of them aren't in perfect working condition. I remember 3 months ago a subject from northern states asked me $1,495.00 for one and he said it needs repairs !!! Go figures ... Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 15, 1999 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak comparisons > Norris, > > The 700 ZXL is different sonically then the 700ZXE. The difference is in the > electronics, the auto-calibration system on the 700ZXL goes one step further > then the 700ZXE, it adds record equalization adjustment. > > 700 ZXE = Head Azimuth,Bias current, and record/playback Level. > 18-23k +/- 3db, 20-20k +/-2db. > > 700ZXL = Head Azimuth,Bias current, record/playback Level, record > Equalization. > A.B.L.E. > 18-24k +/- 3db, 20-20k +/-1.5db > > Scott Al-najim. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Fri Oct 15 20:55:30 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 20:55:30 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak manuals (pdf format) References: Message-ID: <380778A2.542083AB@xs4all.nl> Sorry, I don't have these, if I will people on the list will know! Wouter The BlueSwapper wrote: > Wouter! Please remind us how to access the Nak manual info in pdf format. I'm looking for RX-505 & RX-202. > > If those aren't available, might someone else have copies that I might access? > > Many thanks....... > > Mr Blues > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 00:11:40 Wouter Heijke wrote: > >Raul and Winfried are picking up the PDF project again, which is very > >good I think! If anyone else feels like scanning their Nak > >brochures,manuals, flyers or any other printed material please step > >forward! Scanning brochures to another format may be useful as well! > > > >There was a time when I had several PDF manuals, then they were all lost > >when I installed the new Readhat Linux 6.0 on a new disk in my server > >and the Redhat installer decided that my second disk (with the PDF > >files) should be repartitioned and wiped so there went my manuals and I > >couldn't do a thing! > >No backup, you guessed! > >But I managed to find most of the manuals and am missing a few, which > >Winfried will supply to me, and then there is the LX5 manual that's > >still missing... > >So my question to you all is if anyone has this manual and wants to send > >it to me? If you have it let me know then I'll give you directions where > >to send it to! > > > >Thanks, > > > >Wouter > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck page. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From japho at cunyvm.cuny.edu Sat Oct 16 08:20:28 1999 From: japho at cunyvm.cuny.edu (Javier Perez) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 02:20:28 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Another 700 Question References: <0.654ad1ba.253802be@aol.com> <004501bf170b$1e792c40$662f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <3808192B.3A70FD61@cunyvm.cuny.edu> Hi Everyone The 700 s2 deck I've just gotten working, seems pretty straight foward I set the tape selector to sx and 70, turned dolby off, put in an XL2s tape and started recording the test tone and set the azimuth. After toggling the monitor switch and playing with the front accessible pots I managed to get both input and output equalized. Then I hooked the thing up to an AF oscillator which I is linear +- .2 volts or so. I set it to sine wave output and went up and down the band. The needles didn't budge much between 30 and 17kc. Does this sound right??? Next I went to the original 700 to repeat the process and instead of the 70/120 microsecond switch I found a "Limiter" switch. So here's the next part of my question. A: Should the limiter be set to on or off when calibrating? I assumed off. B: is 70 usec the machine default for an sx tape? (ie: no problem already done) I've never had to set a xls or sa type tape to 120 C: What does the limiter do? For the 700 I ignored the absence of the 70/120 switch and calibrated it via the pots in the back. I wish I'de never sold my dragon.................. Any help is greatly appreciated and thanks to everyone for the info already provided. Best Regards Javier ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sun Oct 17 01:57:45 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 16:57:45 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak manuals (pdf format) Message-ID: Wouter, et al: Thanks for the update, we'll need to do something about getting the RX-505 & RX-202 into the Nak reference database! I've got a deal going on the user manual for the RX-505, and when I get that, I'll plan to provide an electronic copy to you. Anyone got the RX-202 manual that can be converted digitally and contributed? A question, how do we prepare the files into pdf format? A special process & s/w program needed? Please advise. Also, I've got the RX-202 customer brochure (glossy), and I'd like to get a copy of the counterpart brochure for the RX-505. Anyone able to provide that to me? Kindly contact me directly. Many thanks, and keep on Nakkin'........ Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper On Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:16:18 The BlueSwapper wrote: >Wouter! Please remind us how to access the Nak manual info in pdf format. I'm looking for RX-505 & RX-202. > >If those aren't available, might someone else have copies that I might access? > >Many thanks....... > >Mr Blues > >--- >Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? >http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > >On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 00:11:40 Wouter Heijke wrote: >>Raul and Winfried are picking up the PDF project again, which is very >>good I think! If anyone else feels like scanning their Nak >>brochures,manuals, flyers or any other printed material please step >>forward! Scanning brochures to another format may be useful as well! >> >>There was a time when I had several PDF manuals, then they were all lost >>when I installed the new Readhat Linux 6.0 on a new disk in my server >>and the Redhat installer decided that my second disk (with the PDF >>files) should be repartitioned and wiped so there went my manuals and I >>couldn't do a thing! >>No backup, you guessed! >>But I managed to find most of the manuals and am missing a few, which >>Winfried will supply to me, and then there is the LX5 manual that's >>still missing... >>So my question to you all is if anyone has this manual and wants to send >>it to me? If you have it let me know then I'll give you directions where >>to send it to! >> >>Thanks, >> >>Wouter >> >> >>========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >> Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck page. >>TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html >>========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >> > > >Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From texan at mail.com Sun Oct 17 11:38:05 1999 From: texan at mail.com (texan) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 04:38:05 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak manuals (pdf format) References: Message-ID: <000701bf1883$5238cda0$6803ffcc@gregsown> Hi, I have copies of the user manual and the customer brochure for the RX-505 (the RX-303 is also covered in the brocure) and also the user manual for the CA-5 preamp that I can scan into jpeg files, if someone wants to use them in the database. I'm not sure how to create .pdf files for acrobat, but will be glad to send scans of these to someone who knows how to. Texan ----- Original Message ----- From: The BlueSwapper To: Cc: Mr Blues Sent: Saturday, October 16, 1999 6:57 PM Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak manuals (pdf format) > Wouter, et al: > > Thanks for the update, we'll need to do something about getting the RX-505 & RX-202 into the Nak reference database! > > I've got a deal going on the user manual for the RX-505, and when I get that, I'll plan to provide an electronic copy to you. Anyone got the RX-202 manual that can be converted digitally and contributed? A question, how do we prepare the files into pdf format? A special process & s/w program needed? Please advise. > > Also, I've got the RX-202 customer brochure (glossy), and I'd like to get a copy of the counterpart brochure for the RX-505. Anyone able to provide that to me? Kindly contact me directly. Many thanks, and keep on Nakkin'........ > > Blues > > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Oct 17 20:17:13 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:17:13 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Getting onto the Nak site In-Reply-To: <01BF1698.779A3C60.graham@nelson3.freeserve.co.uk> Message-ID: <000301bf18cb$d5dcac60$a025883e@a4s1s2> Help! I keep getting "you are not allowed this script" error message. What am I doing wrong ... ? Graham ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Sun Oct 17 20:27:47 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 20:27:47 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Getting onto the Nak site References: <000301bf18cb$d5dcac60$a025883e@a4s1s2> Message-ID: <380A1523.D573A674@xs4all.nl> This is a protection to prevent abuse of scripts running on my server, so basically you get this message when you access the site in a strange way.... Wouter Graham Nelson wrote: > Help! > > I keep getting "you are not allowed this script" error message. What am I > doing wrong ... ? > > Graham > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Oct 17 22:13:33 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:13:33 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Getting onto the Nak site In-Reply-To: <380A1523.D573A674@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <000101bf18dc$167373c0$4d25883e@a4s1s2> Wouter What's this? Strange? Me? I resemble that remark!!! But seriously ... I had lost the address (becauae I lost my system and had to re-build it)and got to it via the AskJeeves.com search engine. That's all. I'll have another go and see what happens ... Regards Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Wouter Heijke > Sent: 17 October 1999 19:28 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Getting onto the Nak site > > > > This is a protection to prevent abuse of scripts running on my > server, so basically you > get this message when you access the site in a strange way.... > > Wouter > > > Graham Nelson wrote: > > > Help! > > > > I keep getting "you are not allowed this script" error message. > What am I > > doing wrong ... ? > > > > Graham > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Oct 17 22:13:40 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:13:40 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Getting onto the Nak site In-Reply-To: <380A1523.D573A674@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <000301bf18dc$1a9c8400$4d25883e@a4s1s2> http://www.naks.com/ Wouter This is ther address I am using, saved on my Favourites. I get in so ar but, when I click on Search, I get the same message. Can you suggest what I may be doing wrong? Graham > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From redrum at sekinger.demon.co.uk Sun Oct 17 17:15:46 1999 From: redrum at sekinger.demon.co.uk (Sebastian Sekinger) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:15:46 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Opinion In-Reply-To: <000701bf15d2$23975920$2c2f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <5TMujBAigeC4EwuK@sekinger.demon.co.uk> In message <000701bf15d2$23975920$2c2f2ac4 at coqui.net>, Carlos writes >-------------------------------------------------- >========= Dear Mr Guzman You are obviousley a Nakamichi expert. I wonderd if you could offer your opinion on the MR 1. I have owned & loved one of these machines for the past ten years now & have just had it serviced by Nakamichi. I think it sounds great but I have never had the opertunity to compare it with other Nakamichi's. I am very curiouse, this web site has given me an insight into just how many models there are! Also what do you think of new Nakamichi model ? Regards Seb Sekinger -- Sebastian Sekinger ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Oct 18 00:57:25 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:57:25 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Opinion References: <5TMujBAigeC4EwuK@sekinger.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <001901bf18f2$fb293fc0$af2f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello Seb: Thank you very much for your kind words. The MR-1 is a 3 head professional version cassette deck originally designed for recording studios. It's 19" rack mountable. The sound is good but not as exquisite as the more complex domestic decks. We used to have 25 MR 2 in our duplication plant years ago. The problem wasn't the sound, but the fragile mechanism. Nakamichi service wasn't that good either ... Another problem with these decks are the totally manual setting for tape type, bias and eq. Most engineers complaint about the sound but the real cause were their lack of knowledge dealing with the settings. Your MR 1 also offers the flexibility of a 3 head design. I have no experience with the new decks but I heard they're good. Your MR 1 is a good machine but perhaps you may want to experiment with other Nak models to really discover the magical sound of Nakamichi. Thank you for your post. Yours truly, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Sebastian Sekinger To: Sent: Sunday, October 17, 1999 11:15 AM Subject: [naktalk] Opinion > In message <000701bf15d2$23975920$2c2f2ac4 at coqui.net>, Carlos > writes > >-------------------------------------------------- > >========= > Dear Mr Guzman > You are obviousley a Nakamichi expert. I wonderd if you could offer your > opinion on the MR 1. I have owned & loved one of these machines for the > past ten years now & have just had it serviced by Nakamichi. I think it > sounds great but I have never had the opertunity to compare it with > other Nakamichi's. I am very curiouse, this web site has given me an > insight into just how many models there are! > Also what do you think of new Nakamichi model ? > Regards > Seb Sekinger > -- > Sebastian Sekinger > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From rguzzey at stny.rr.com Mon Oct 18 23:37:47 1999 From: rguzzey at stny.rr.com (Rick Guzzey) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 17:37:47 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] AV-2 vs AV-3 References: <001501bf1405$ed86f520$9bd8193f@augiedogs> Message-ID: <006501bf19b1$05bf6b80$6c915f18@stny.rr.com> Please bear with me. What's the difference between them the AV-2 and AV-3? Is one a better than the other? Do either have a way to hook up a phono? Thanks for the information. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From copytec at coqui.net Tue Oct 19 01:15:56 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:15:56 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Last Call Nakamichi Dragon Message-ID: <000f01bf19be$bbd5e0e0$292f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello everyone: After so many inquires about the Dragon, this is the last call for a mint condition deck ready to move to another house and sensible priced at: $895.00. Also, any reasonable best offer over $800.00 would be considered. She is ready to ship and with enough head life to record until the death of the cassette media ! Don't loose this opportunity ... Carlos The tape man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Oct 19 01:42:19 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:42:19 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] A better deal Message-ID: <000b01bf19c2$6b821420$292f2ac4@coqui.net> Well guys, since everything nowadays is related to the millenium I would offer the best Nakamichi deal of the millenium here ! A MINT condition Dragon deck A completely mint and like new 700 II A very good 700 All 3 for the carzy price of $1,495.00 !! I have seen Dragons sold for nearly that at e.bay ! First come, first served and for inmmediate action before I change my mind ! A once in a lifetime offer for any Nakamichi avid collector anywhere ! Best, Carlos The Tape Man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From redrum at sekinger.demon.co.uk Mon Oct 18 20:40:10 1999 From: redrum at sekinger.demon.co.uk (Sebastian Sekinger) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 1999 19:40:10 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Opinion In-Reply-To: <001901bf18f2$fb293fc0$af2f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <$7mvJDAKm2C4Ewtj@sekinger.demon.co.uk> In message <001901bf18f2$fb293fc0$af2f2ac4 at coqui.net>, Carlos writes >----------------------------------- >> >========= >>Dear Carlos Thank you for your opinions & info on the MR1.I would love to hear some of the up market Naks. {any personel recomendations?} I am a tape recorder enthusiast {have been all my life} & I have quite a collection of both audio & video machines {but only the one Nakamichi at present!} I am particularly interested in open reel decks & my collection includes a Teac X10, a semi pro deck that takes the 10 "N.A.B. spools {sound quality of this beast gives the MR1 a run for it's money}, a very old Akai GX260 {this is a 1970's monster that has six heads & an auto reverse system actuated via tin foil strips that you atatch to the leader tape.} An even older Sony TC366 {basic 3 head open reel} & a pretty recent Uher 4200 report {this is a stereo , 3head portable machine with great, almost military styling!} The largest machine in my bizare collection of tape recoder history {the machine that my girlfreind has been teribly understanding about !} is actualy a video tape machine that I rescued from work. It is an old Bosh Fernseh {type B} broadcast VTR that uses 1"wide tape. It has stereo sound and "Dolby A" noise reduction. It is the size of a medium sized refridgerator ! I have many other machines but this gives you some insight into my interests. This is why am so plesed to find sites like this on the web. I find it fascinating to read other peoples opinions & this site is a credit to all who contribute to it! There should be more like it. Kindest regards Seb >======= >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.ht ml >> >========--------------------------------------------------------------- ---== >======= >> >> > >========------------------------------------------------------------------ >========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------ >========= -- Sebastian Sekinger ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Oct 19 14:03:35 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:03:35 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Opinion References: <$7mvJDAKm2C4Ewtj@sekinger.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <006b01bf1a29$f9314400$822f2ac4@coqui.net> Impressive collection you have, Seb. And, you are always welcome in this site. We try to have a good time sharing opinions and information about the nice Nakamichis and some other decks too ! Best, Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Oct 19 14:09:21 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 08:09:21 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL Manual Message-ID: <008d01bf1a2a$c778e200$822f2ac4@coqui.net> Last call: Anyone else interested in a well done xerox copy of the monumental Nakamichi 700 ZXL service manual ? I'll start making copies this week. Best, Carlos The tape man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Oct 19 23:54:15 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:54:15 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Getting onto the Nak site In-Reply-To: <380A1523.D573A674@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <000101bf1a7c$7c600e40$2e23883e@a4s1s2> Wouter I'm still getting: You are not allowed to run this script when I try Search, having entered via http://www.naks.com/ Am I entering at the wrong address? Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Wouter Heijke > Sent: 17 October 1999 19:28 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Getting onto the Nak site > > > > This is a protection to prevent abuse of scripts running on my > server, so basically you > get this message when you access the site in a strange way.... > > Wouter > > > Graham Nelson wrote: > > > Help! > > > > I keep getting "you are not allowed this script" error message. > What am I > > doing wrong ... ? > > > > Graham > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Edwards944 at aol.com Wed Oct 20 00:18:39 1999 From: Edwards944 at aol.com (Edwards944 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:18:39 EDT Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 Questions Message-ID: <0.bf1abeee.253e483f@aol.com> I've just purchased a Nakamichi BX-300. A few questions, please. 1. When were these units manufactured ? 2. I do not have a manual. Does anyone know of where I can get one? Maybe download? 3. How much did this model sell for new? 4. Everything appears to work and it is in mint appearance. Any trouble areas that should look for with this model? I really appreciate any responses you might have. Thanks for listening. Bill Edwards ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Tue Oct 19 20:46:48 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:46:48 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 Questions References: <0.bf1abeee.253e483f@aol.com> Message-ID: <380CBC98.3DF4@bestweb.net> Bill, 1. 1984-1987 2. Wouter has a pdf of the BX-300 onsite. 3. The BX-300 retailed for $750. 4. The idler wears out fairly quickly in this model as well as in the other BX's. It might be a good idea to get the infamous gear update, where a gear replaces the rubber-edged idler wheel. Once installed, I've been told it virtually lasts forever. A Nak Tech I know told me that once he installed the idler gear in a Nak, he never again saw that unit for an idler problem. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jmueller at gdi.net Wed Oct 20 00:50:22 1999 From: jmueller at gdi.net (Jim Mueller) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:50:22 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Reputable Dragon tape deck repair sites Message-ID: <000c01bf1a85$32d11900$f3261ad1@primevil> Hi, I'm looking for reputable places to have my Dragon deck recalibrated and brought back into tip-top shape, both aesthetically and sonically. I live in Orlando FL US, and something near would be preferable...but all things considered, I want it done right the first time. All help is appreciated! Thanks, Jim ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Tue Oct 19 21:58:36 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 19:58:36 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Reputable Dragon tape deck repair sites References: <000c01bf1a85$32d11900$f3261ad1@primevil> Message-ID: <380CCD6B.61F8@bestweb.net> Jim, Stephen Sank is your man. This guy may just know more about Naks than the engineers who created them. I doubt any one human being knows more than he does about the intracacies of Nak techonolgy. E-mail him at: stephen_sank at emall-online.com. He'll give you advice and a rough estimate for any repairs. I intend to send him several of my Naks when I have the funds to get them repaired. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From pperham at wizvax.net Wed Oct 20 02:15:51 1999 From: pperham at wizvax.net (Philip S. Perham) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:15:51 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXL Manual/1000 ZXL request Message-ID: <004101bf1a90$45492ea0$72a261cc@default> Carlos- I would be interested in a copy. Also, does anyone know where I could find a service manual for a 1000 ZXL? Phil -----Original Message----- From: Carlos To: naktalk at naks.com Date: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 8:19 AM Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL Manual >Last call: > >Anyone else interested in a well done xerox copy of the monumental Nakamichi >700 ZXL service manual ? I'll start making copies this week. > >Best, > >Carlos >The tape man > >========------------------------------------------------------------- -----========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------- -----========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Edwards944 at aol.com Wed Oct 20 02:27:20 1999 From: Edwards944 at aol.com (Edwards944 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:27:20 EDT Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 Message-ID: <0.55886dfa.253e6668@aol.com> I understand that I can download a copy of the BX-300 manual from the "Wouter" website. What is Wouter and how do I access it? Thanks. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eriep at stewstras.net Wed Oct 20 04:26:00 1999 From: eriep at stewstras.net (Erie Patsellis) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:26:00 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 700II service manual? References: <199910200010.CAA30924@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <001501bf1aa2$738b5b00$0100a8c0@office> Carlos, et al... does anyone have a 700II service manual? I need to clean & recal, and it has been quite some time. on a similar note, does anyone know a supplier that can lap heads reasonably? erie ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Scalnajim at aol.com Wed Oct 20 05:09:10 1999 From: Scalnajim at aol.com (Scalnajim at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:09:10 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL Manual Message-ID: <0.cb96a8ce.253e8c56@aol.com> yes, I would be interested a copy of the 700ZXL service manual. scott al-najim scalnajim at aol.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Scalnajim at aol.com Wed Oct 20 05:12:31 1999 From: Scalnajim at aol.com (Scalnajim at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:12:31 EDT Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXL Manual/1000 ZXL request Message-ID: <0.c1233951.253e8d1f@aol.com> I have a 1000ZXL LIMITED service manual that I could make a copy of. scott al-najim scalnajim at aol.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From DJBrown96 at aol.com Wed Oct 20 06:19:07 1999 From: DJBrown96 at aol.com (DJBrown96 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 00:19:07 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Reputable Dragon tape deck repair sites Message-ID: <0.fbcceded.253e9cbb@aol.com> Jim, Another company that you might want to give a try is: Electronics Service Labs 1807 Berlin Turnpike Wethersfield, Ct 06109 Phone (860) 529-3700 I can think of three reasons why you might want to use them; 1) An excellent reputation, 2) excellent work, 3) they are great people to deal with. They are not the cheapest, but they are one of the best! I hope this is of some help to you. Best Regards, Dennis ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Wed Oct 20 07:29:43 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:29:43 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] 700II service manual? References: <199910200010.CAA30924@zebra.naks.com> <001501bf1aa2$738b5b00$0100a8c0@office> Message-ID: <380D5347.DAE98522@emall-online.com> I have the alignment/calibration pages of the 700, which are virtually identical to the 700-II's, scanned & zipped on my shop hard drive that I can email to you or whoever needs them. Just email me during daylight hours so that I get your reply on the shop computer. Stephen Sank Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer Erie Patsellis wrote: > > Carlos, et al... > > does anyone have a 700II service manual? > I need to clean & recal, and it has been quite some time. > > on a similar note, does anyone know a supplier > that can lap heads reasonably? > > erie > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jazzisjazz at mindspring.com Wed Oct 20 07:37:11 1999 From: jazzisjazz at mindspring.com (Stanley P. Pickens) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 01:37:11 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL Manual Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19991020053711.006931d0@pop.mindspring.com> Hi Carlos, Just got home today to find my 700zxl had arrived. I sure would appreciate a copy. Also have zx-7 owners manual and color pages of zx-9 brochure if anyone wants scans, copies, or files sent, just email. Would like to get a copy of the zx-9 service manual if possible. I must apologize to anyone who made an earlier request, my computer( recently rebuilt ) lost my email info. If I didn't respond please send your request again. Also I would be interested in knowing what folks think the differences in sound quality are between naks when playing back tapes made on the same machine with no dolby b or c( no advantage of azimuth control ) and assuming good working order purchased at a fair price, what's the most nak for the money? At 08:09 AM 10/19/1999 -0400, you wrote: >Last call: > >Anyone else interested in a well done xerox copy of the monumental Nakamichi >700 ZXL service manual ? I'll start making copies this week. > >Best, > >Carlos >The tape man > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Wed Oct 20 09:04:09 1999 From: Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:04:09 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL Manual In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19991020053711.006931d0@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: <199910200703.RAA28670@necagmx.neca.nec.com.au> Hi all, sorry to butt in but I would desperately love a scan copy of the ZX-7 manual and brochure of the ZX-9. My email address is Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Many Regards Tom. -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of Stanley P. Pickens Sent: Wednesday, 20 October 1999 3:37 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL Manual Hi Carlos, Just got home today to find my 700zxl had arrived. I sure would appreciate a copy. Also have zx-7 owners manual and color pages of zx-9 brochure if anyone wants scans, copies, or files sent, just email. Would like to get a copy of the zx-9 service manual if possible. I must apologize to anyone who made an earlier request, my computer( recently rebuilt ) lost my email info. If I didn't respond please send your request again. Also I would be interested in knowing what folks think the differences in sound quality are between naks when playing back tapes made on the same machine with no dolby b or c( no advantage of azimuth control ) and assuming good working order purchased at a fair price, what's the most nak for the money? At 08:09 AM 10/19/1999 -0400, you wrote: >Last call: > >Anyone else interested in a well done xerox copy of the monumental Nakamichi >700 ZXL service manual ? I'll start making copies this week. > >Best, > >Carlos >The tape man > >========--------------------------------------------------------------- ---= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========--------------------------------------------------------------- ---= ======== > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Erie Patsellis To: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 10:26 PM Subject: [naktalk] 700II service manual? > Carlos, et al... > > does anyone have a 700II service manual? > I need to clean & recal, and it has been quite some time. > > on a similar note, does anyone know a supplier > that can lap heads reasonably? > > > erie > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Wed Oct 20 13:38:58 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:38:58 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Reputable Dragon tape deck repair sites References: <000c01bf1a85$32d11900$f3261ad1@primevil> <380CCD6B.61F8@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <00f301bf1aef$b2e19f60$de2f2ac4@coqui.net> I second Tom here. Stephen is the man in the desert of New Mexico ! Best tech and reasonable too. Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Bergman To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 1999 3:58 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Reputable Dragon tape deck repair sites > Jim, > Stephen Sank is your man. This guy may just know more about Naks > than the engineers who created them. I doubt any one human being knows > more than he does about the intracacies of Nak techonolgy. > E-mail him at: stephen_sank at emall-online.com. He'll give you > advice and a rough estimate for any repairs. I intend to send him > several of my Naks when I have the funds to get them repaired. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Ariston_Malolos at condenast.com Wed Oct 20 16:22:13 1999 From: Ariston_Malolos at condenast.com (Ariston_Malolos at condenast.com) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:22:13 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 Questions Message-ID: <85256810.004EDDB0.00@Beethoven.condenast.com> Bill, I have the same model, and I got it for around $550(discounted but not grey goods) in 1985. Sometime in its late production years, the price went up to around $800. I believe it was manufactured in the mid 80s to upper 80s. It is a very good cassette deck except for its transport mechanism. The original is belt-driven & lasts only for 2-3 yrs, tops. Mine can barely fast forward and rewind, and sometimes Play doesn't move the tape at all. There is an upgrade to a gear-driven transport which should last for a lot longer than the belt-driven version. The upgrade including some calibration costs around $200, but you must send it, preferably, direct to Nakamichi. I have a manual, but obviously, I couldn't part with it. However, I'll be more than happy to send you a photocopy of it, for free. Just send me a self-addressed, stamped(calculate how much postage it would be for mailing a 20-page, 8 -------------- next part -------------- ½"x11" bond paper+envelope) envelope. If you decide to go for it, just let me know & I'll email you my mailing address. The BX-300 model, though not the best sounding Nakamichi out there, is a very good sounding Nak nevertheless. I wouldn't part with it even though I mostly listen to CDs 99.9% of the time, and I only have a handful of cassette tapes. So, just find out whether you have gear-drive, and if so, enjoy your new equipment. Otherwise, save money now for the gear upgrade because the belt will go bad whether you use your Nak or not. Ariston (Embedded image moved Edwards944 at aol.com to file: 10/19/99 06:18 PM pic06456.pcx) Please respond to naktalk at naks.com To: naktalk at naks.com cc: Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 Questions -------------- next part -------------- I've just purchased a Nakamichi BX-300. A few questions, please. 1. When were these units manufactured ? 2. I do not have a manual. Does anyone know of where I can get one? Maybe download? 3. How much did this model sell for new? 4. Everything appears to work and it is in mint appearance. Any trouble areas that should look for with this model? I really appreciate any responses you might have. Thanks for listening. Bill Edwards ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pic06456.pcx Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2427 bytes Desc: not available URL: From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Wed Oct 20 17:12:07 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:12:07 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 Questions References: <85256810.004EDDB0.00@Beethoven.condenast.com> Message-ID: <380DDBC7.B2AC3813@emall-online.com> Here is a quick lesson on how to keep your reel drive rubber tire working well until you want to spend the $175 for the gear drive upgrade(that's what I charge, including full maintenance & calibration): Open the door & remove it. Looking straight up into the cassette compartment, you'll see two #1 Philips head screws that secure the back plate. Remove them & lean the whole deck forward until the plate falls forward(if it hasn't already). BEFORE removing the plate from the well, note how the bottom edge sets into grooves in the two chrome guide pins at the corners, so that you get it back into them when you put back the plate. Remove the plate, and you will see the rubber-tired wheel right between the two reel tables. Close the frame of the door & put the unit into fast forward mode. Take a Q-tip soaked with Intraclean S-711 or a freon-based head cleaning solution(or a VERY lightly isopropyl alcohol soaked Q-tip) & hold it lightly against the tire on the lower right side, right after the contact of it with the reel table. Try to hold the Q-tip with enough pressure to to just NOT stop the thing spinning, which is a pressure you will be able to increase as the tire gets cleaner. Keep cleaning the tire until you can grab the spinning reel table & stop the motor pulley with it. Then replace the well back plate & the door & you are good to go for usually a couple of months at a time. NOTE: If there are visible cracks in the rubber tire, it's futile to do this. Also, be sure the plate bottom edge goes back in the guide pin grooves. Stephen Sank / Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised McIntosh/Nakamichi Servicer > Bill, > I have the same model, and I got it for around $550(discounted but not > grey goods) in 1985. Sometime in its late production years, the price went up to > around $800. I believe it was manufactured in the mid 80s to upper 80s. It is a > very good cassette deck except for its transport mechanism. The original is > belt-driven & lasts only for 2-3 yrs, tops. Mine can barely fast forward and > rewind, and sometimes Play doesn't move the tape at all. There is an upgrade to > a gear-driven transport which should last for a lot longer than the belt-driven > version. The upgrade including some calibration costs around $200, but you must > send it, preferably, direct to Nakamichi. > I have a manual, but obviously, I couldn't part with it. However, I'll be > more than happy to send you a photocopy of it, for free. Just send me a > self-addressed, stamped(calculate how much postage it would be for mailing a > 20-page, 8 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ½"x11" bond paper+envelope) envelope. If you decide to go for it, just > let me know & I'll email you my mailing address. > The BX-300 model, though not the best sounding Nakamichi out there, is a > very good sounding Nak nevertheless. I wouldn't part with it even though I > mostly listen to CDs 99.9% of the time, and I only have a handful of cassette > tapes. So, just find out whether you have gear-drive, and if so, enjoy your new > equipment. Otherwise, save money now for the gear upgrade because the belt will > go bad whether you use your Nak or not. > > Ariston > > > (Embedded > image moved Edwards944 at aol.com > to file: 10/19/99 06:18 PM > pic06456.pcx) > > > Please respond to naktalk at naks.com > > To: naktalk at naks.com > cc: > Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 Questions > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > I've just purchased a Nakamichi BX-300. A few questions, please. > 1. When were these units manufactured ? > 2. I do not have a manual. Does anyone know of where I can get one? Maybe > download? > 3. How much did this model sell for new? > 4. Everything appears to work and it is in mint appearance. Any trouble areas > that > should look for with this model? > I really appreciate any responses you might have. Thanks for listening. > > Bill Edwards > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: pic06456.pcx > pic06456.pcx Type: PCX Image Document (application/x-unknown-content-type-PCXImage.Document) > Encoding: base64 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Oct 20 21:38:09 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:38:09 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 In-Reply-To: <0.55886dfa.253e6668@aol.com> Message-ID: <000801bf1b32$a36233e0$4054883e@a4s1s2> Wouter is a computer manufactured by the makers of Hal and Proteus - i.e. Warner Fox. Wouter resides somewhere in Europe where he is planning to plant some demon seeds .. probably into Aunt Joan for the purpose of creating a new generation of Nakamichi cassette decks that will be half human half machine. Graham-on-acid > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Edwards944 at aol.com > Sent: 20 October 1999 01:27 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 > > > I understand that I can download a copy of the BX-300 manual from the > "Wouter" website. What is Wouter and how do I access it? Thanks. > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Wed Oct 20 23:30:28 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:30:28 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Hurricane Message-ID: <00b201bf1b42$54fe32c0$8c2f2ac4@coqui.net> Well my friends: It seems that Pureto Rico is gonna be directly hit by another hurricane tomorrow morning,so, if you don't hear from me for a while, is because of power failure. Last year we were 3 weeks with no electricity. For those folks who are waiting for the 700 ZXL service manual, I implore your patience while everything returns back to normal. Those of you interested to buy one of my Naks, don't worry : I'll keep'em dry and safe ! Good bye, Carlos The tape man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From japho at cunyvm.cuny.edu Thu Oct 21 00:40:50 1999 From: japho at cunyvm.cuny.edu (Javier) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:40:50 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Hurricane References: <00b201bf1b42$54fe32c0$8c2f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <380E44F1.E440A01C@cunyvm.cuny.edu> What pecautions have you taken to keep the Naks safe and dry Javier ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bobpage at wam.umd.edu Thu Oct 21 00:39:45 1999 From: bobpage at wam.umd.edu (Bob Page) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 Questions In-Reply-To: <380DDBC7.B2AC3813@emall-online.com> Message-ID: Stephen I've been noting your posts for some time now, mentally. Now I'm at a point where I'd like to have you look at my BX-300, if you're interested. I'd want you to give a good once over, replacing whatever wear parts are appropriate, as well as performing the gear upgrade. I've got a DR-2 and a CR-2 as well, and do quite a bit of copying of tapes, generally using the BX-300 as the playback deck and the other two as record decks, so the correct normal speed is also an issue I'd like to have checked (I had the other 2 calibrated to within a couple of seconds of each other by a local place that works on Naks) What I need to know is: (1) where to send the unit (2) should I send a deposit, (3) how are payment arrangements made, and (4) what sort of turnaround might I expect? thanks Bob Page On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Stephen Sank wrote: > Here is a quick lesson on how to keep your reel drive rubber tire > working well until you want to spend the $175 for the gear drive > upgrade(that's what I charge, including full maintenance & calibration): > Open the door & remove it. Looking straight up into the cassette > compartment, you'll see two #1 Philips head screws that secure the back > plate. Remove them & lean the whole deck forward until the plate falls > forward(if it hasn't already). BEFORE removing the plate from the well, > note how the bottom edge sets into grooves in the two chrome guide pins > at the corners, so that you get it back into them when you put back the > plate. Remove the plate, and you will see the rubber-tired wheel right > between the two reel tables. Close the frame of the door & put the unit > into fast forward mode. Take a Q-tip soaked with Intraclean S-711 or a > freon-based head cleaning solution(or a VERY lightly isopropyl alcohol > soaked Q-tip) & hold it lightly against the tire on the lower right > side, right after the contact of it with the reel table. Try to hold > the Q-tip with enough pressure to to just NOT stop the thing spinning, > which is a pressure you will be able to increase as the tire gets > cleaner. Keep cleaning the tire until you can grab the spinning reel > table & stop the motor pulley with it. Then replace the well back plate > & the door & you are good to go for usually a couple of months at a > time. NOTE: If there are visible cracks in the rubber tire, it's futile > to do this. Also, be sure the plate bottom edge goes back in the guide > pin grooves. > > Stephen Sank / Website: > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / 7611 Menaul > Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 > phone/fax / Authorised McIntosh/Nakamichi Servicer > > > > Bill, > > I have the same model, and I got it for around $550(discounted but not > > grey goods) in 1985. Sometime in its late production years, the price went up to > > around $800. I believe it was manufactured in the mid 80s to upper 80s. It is a > > very good cassette deck except for its transport mechanism. The original is > > belt-driven & lasts only for 2-3 yrs, tops. Mine can barely fast forward and > > rewind, and sometimes Play doesn't move the tape at all. There is an upgrade to > > a gear-driven transport which should last for a lot longer than the belt-driven > > version. The upgrade including some calibration costs around $200, but you must > > send it, preferably, direct to Nakamichi. > > I have a manual, but obviously, I couldn't part with it. However, I'll be > > more than happy to send you a photocopy of it, for free. Just send me a > > self-addressed, stamped(calculate how much postage it would be for mailing a > > 20-page, 8 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > �"x11" bond paper+envelope) envelope. If you decide to go for it, just > > let me know & I'll email you my mailing address. > > The BX-300 model, though not the best sounding Nakamichi out there, is a > > very good sounding Nak nevertheless. I wouldn't part with it even though I > > mostly listen to CDs 99.9% of the time, and I only have a handful of cassette > > tapes. So, just find out whether you have gear-drive, and if so, enjoy your new > > equipment. Otherwise, save money now for the gear upgrade because the belt will > > go bad whether you use your Nak or not. > > > > Ariston > > > > > > (Embedded > > image moved Edwards944 at aol.com > > to file: 10/19/99 06:18 PM > > pic06456.pcx) > > > > > > Please respond to naktalk at naks.com > > > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > cc: > > Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 Questions > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > I've just purchased a Nakamichi BX-300. A few questions, please. > > 1. When were these units manufactured ? > > 2. I do not have a manual. Does anyone know of where I can get one? Maybe > > download? > > 3. How much did this model sell for new? > > 4. Everything appears to work and it is in mint appearance. Any trouble areas > > that > > should look for with this model? > > I really appreciate any responses you might have. Thanks for listening. > > > > Bill Edwards > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Name: pic06456.pcx > > pic06456.pcx Type: PCX Image Document (application/x-unknown-content-type-PCXImage.Document) > > Encoding: base64 > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Thu Oct 21 01:16:19 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:16:19 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 Questions References: Message-ID: <380E4D43.18846688@emall-online.com> Well, as long as your making the reservation to send it now(i.e., tell me for sure you are sending it), I can reserve the last gear drive parts set for you, as it will be another couple or few weeks to restock them. Given such reservation, I could have it finished within a week of arrival. Payment would be by any means that is convenient for you & I do not require a deposit. As for the speed, if you have never had the deck serviced, you can count on the deck being currently almost exactly 0.5 percent fast at pitch center, as the factory seemed to think they would break in & get a bit slower, so set them a bit fast. As it turns out, they stayed exactly where they where set, no matter how old they got. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer Bob Page wrote: > > Stephen > > I've been noting your posts for some time now, mentally. Now I'm at a > point where I'd like to have you look at my BX-300, if you're interested. > I'd want you to give a good once over, replacing whatever wear parts are > appropriate, as well as performing the gear upgrade. I've got a DR-2 and > a CR-2 as well, and do quite a bit of copying of tapes, generally using > the BX-300 as the playback deck and the other two as record decks, so the > correct normal speed is also an issue I'd like to have checked (I had the > other 2 calibrated to within a couple of seconds of each other by a local > place that works on Naks) > > What I need to know is: > > (1) where to send the unit > (2) should I send a deposit, > (3) how are payment arrangements made, and > (4) what sort of turnaround might I expect? > > thanks > > Bob Page > > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Stephen Sank wrote: > > > Here is a quick lesson on how to keep your reel drive rubber tire > > working well until you want to spend the $175 for the gear drive > > upgrade(that's what I charge, including full maintenance & calibration): > > Open the door & remove it. Looking straight up into the cassette > > compartment, you'll see two #1 Philips head screws that secure the back > > plate. Remove them & lean the whole deck forward until the plate falls > > forward(if it hasn't already). BEFORE removing the plate from the well, > > note how the bottom edge sets into grooves in the two chrome guide pins > > at the corners, so that you get it back into them when you put back the > > plate. Remove the plate, and you will see the rubber-tired wheel right > > between the two reel tables. Close the frame of the door & put the unit > > into fast forward mode. Take a Q-tip soaked with Intraclean S-711 or a > > freon-based head cleaning solution(or a VERY lightly isopropyl alcohol > > soaked Q-tip) & hold it lightly against the tire on the lower right > > side, right after the contact of it with the reel table. Try to hold > > the Q-tip with enough pressure to to just NOT stop the thing spinning, > > which is a pressure you will be able to increase as the tire gets > > cleaner. Keep cleaning the tire until you can grab the spinning reel > > table & stop the motor pulley with it. Then replace the well back plate > > & the door & you are good to go for usually a couple of months at a > > time. NOTE: If there are visible cracks in the rubber tire, it's futile > > to do this. Also, be sure the plate bottom edge goes back in the guide > > pin grooves. > > > > Stephen Sank / Website: > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / 7611 Menaul > > Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 > > phone/fax / Authorised McIntosh/Nakamichi Servicer > > > > > > > Bill, > > > I have the same model, and I got it for around $550(discounted but not > > > grey goods) in 1985. Sometime in its late production years, the price went up to > > > around $800. I believe it was manufactured in the mid 80s to upper 80s. It is a > > > very good cassette deck except for its transport mechanism. The original is > > > belt-driven & lasts only for 2-3 yrs, tops. Mine can barely fast forward and > > > rewind, and sometimes Play doesn't move the tape at all. There is an upgrade to > > > a gear-driven transport which should last for a lot longer than the belt-driven > > > version. The upgrade including some calibration costs around $200, but you must > > > send it, preferably, direct to Nakamichi. > > > I have a manual, but obviously, I couldn't part with it. However, I'll be > > > more than happy to send you a photocopy of it, for free. Just send me a > > > self-addressed, stamped(calculate how much postage it would be for mailing a > > > 20-page, 8 > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > ½"x11" bond paper+envelope) envelope. If you decide to go for it, just > > > let me know & I'll email you my mailing address. > > > The BX-300 model, though not the best sounding Nakamichi out there, is a > > > very good sounding Nak nevertheless. I wouldn't part with it even though I > > > mostly listen to CDs 99.9% of the time, and I only have a handful of cassette > > > tapes. So, just find out whether you have gear-drive, and if so, enjoy your new > > > equipment. Otherwise, save money now for the gear upgrade because the belt will > > > go bad whether you use your Nak or not. > > > > > > Ariston > > > > > > > > > (Embedded > > > image moved Edwards944 at aol.com > > > to file: 10/19/99 06:18 PM > > > pic06456.pcx) > > > > > > > > > Please respond to naktalk at naks.com > > > > > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > > cc: > > > Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 Questions > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > I've just purchased a Nakamichi BX-300. A few questions, please. > > > 1. When were these units manufactured ? > > > 2. I do not have a manual. Does anyone know of where I can get one? Maybe > > > download? > > > 3. How much did this model sell for new? > > > 4. Everything appears to work and it is in mint appearance. Any trouble areas > > > that > > > should look for with this model? > > > I really appreciate any responses you might have. Thanks for listening. > > > > > > Bill Edwards > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Name: pic06456.pcx > > > pic06456.pcx Type: PCX Image Document (application/x-unknown-content-type-PCXImage.Document) > > > Encoding: base64 > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From brianwinans at hotmail.com Thu Oct 21 05:42:28 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 20:42:28 PDT Subject: [naktalk] 700II service manual? Message-ID: <19991021034229.95632.qmail@hotmail.com> Carlos, Sorry to sound like an idiot, but what does relapping the heads mean? Does it mean re-conditioning worn out heads? Thanks, Brian >From: "Carlos" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: >Subject: Re: [naktalk] 700II service manual? >Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:25:05 -0400 > >I don't have any service manual for the 700 II. Does anyone out there can >supply any xerox copy to Erie? He'll pay for the expenses and mailing. > >Heads relapping: JRF Magnetics has done the realapping of our Bin Loop >heads. Try them. I think you can find them using Altavista or so. > >Best, > >Carlos > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From roy at hdk.gu.se Thu Oct 21 13:05:31 1999 From: roy at hdk.gu.se (ROY SVENSSON) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 13:05:31 GMT+1 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL Manual In-Reply-To: <008d01bf1a2a$c778e200$822f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: Hello Carlos Yes i very much would appreciate to have a copy of the 700 ZXL service manual. All the best Roy ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Oct 21 17:29:33 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:29:33 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 700II service manual? References: <19991021034229.95632.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <001d01bf1bd9$148e8180$e52f2ac4@coqui.net> Hi Brian: No, it's not an stupid question by no means. Relapping heads it's a common practice among duplicators. We are speaking about $1,500 heads here,so, we try to extend their lives considerable. Some smaller heads can be serviced in such ways but not all of them. You are right about the term "re-conditioning ". best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: brian winans To: Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 11:42 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] 700II service manual? > Carlos, > Sorry to sound like an idiot, but what does relapping the heads mean? Does > it mean re-conditioning worn out heads? > Thanks, > Brian > > > >From: "Carlos" > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] 700II service manual? > >Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:25:05 -0400 > > > >I don't have any service manual for the 700 II. Does anyone out there can > >supply any xerox copy to Erie? He'll pay for the expenses and mailing. > > > >Heads relapping: JRF Magnetics has done the realapping of our Bin Loop > >heads. Try them. I think you can find them using Altavista or so. > > > >Best, > > > >Carlos > > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Oct 21 17:56:19 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:56:19 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL Manual References: Message-ID: <004501bf1bdc$d0f90900$4d2f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello Roy: After 4 copies I have figured out that my cost is $25.00 between Office Max and Air Mail. You can send the check to: Carlos J. Guzman P.O. Box 219 Ceiba, Puerto Rico 00735-0219 Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: ROY SVENSSON To: Sent: Thursday, October 21, 1999 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL Manual > Hello Carlos > Yes i very much would appreciate to have a copy of the 700 ZXL > service manual. > > All the best > > Roy > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bobcat at csionline.com Tue Oct 26 04:43:06 1999 From: bobcat at csionline.com (bob artale) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 22:43:06 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] bobcat@csionline.net Message-ID: <3815153A.BB958E35@csionline.com> i am in the process of trading decks, i am trading a 660zx in for a dr10, my stereo man says he has a zx7 in mint condition and has only six hours of playing time on it,not to familiar with either deck. can you help me out here? ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Oct 26 05:37:14 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 1999 23:37:14 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] bobcat@csionline.net References: <3815153A.BB958E35@csionline.com> Message-ID: <000701bf1f63$66e0dfe0$2b302ac4@coqui.net> The ZX 7 is a good deck. I'm not familiar with the dr 10 though. I think is a good opportunity for you. Have seen ZX 7 gone for nearly $600.oo at e.bay. Good luck, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: bob artale To: Sent: Monday, October 25, 1999 10:43 PM Subject: [naktalk] bobcat at csionline.net > i am in the process of trading decks, i am trading a 660zx in for a > dr10, my stereo man says he has a zx7 in mint condition and has only six > hours of playing time on it,not to familiar with either deck. can you > help me out here? > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de Tue Oct 26 08:41:54 1999 From: Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de (Fendt Klaus) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 08:41:54 +0200 Subject: AW: [naktalk] bobcat@csionline.net Message-ID: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F24F@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Hi Bob, in my opinion the ZX series was a great invention. Many years ago I had the chance to get a exhibit of a ZX-9 which is the "super tuned edition" of the ZX-7. It has got the same high quality drive mechanism like the DRAGON and enables you to adjust everything manually: The azymuth of the record head, the equalization and the BIAS so you can acheive the sound you like. So: Go and get this ZX-7 before our special friend Carlos, the tape man (Hi Carlos, I enjoy your postings nearly every morning) gets his nakamaniac hands on it ;-) Regards Klaus > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: bob artale [SMTP:bobcat at csionline.com] > Gesendet am: Dienstag, 26. Oktober 1999 04:43 > An: naktalk at naks.com > Betreff: [naktalk] bobcat at csionline.net > > i am in the process of trading decks, i am trading a 660zx in for a > dr10, my stereo man says he has a zx7 in mint condition and has only six > hours of playing time on it,not to familiar with either deck. can you > help me out here? > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Oct 26 15:05:45 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 09:05:45 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] bobcat@csionline.net References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F24F@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Message-ID: <000b01bf1fb2$d18ece20$9a2f2ac4@coqui.net> Ha, ha, ha ! That was a good one Klaus ! You are right, if you take a closer look of many of the high end models from Nakamichi, you'll notice the almost identical tape transport, head and mechanism. Check a 700 ZXl and a Dragon. Almost identical transport and heads. Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Fendt Klaus To: Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 2:41 AM Subject: AW: [naktalk] bobcat at csionline.net > Hi Bob, > > in my opinion the ZX series was a great invention. Many years ago I had the > chance to get a exhibit of a ZX-9 which is the "super tuned edition" of the > ZX-7. It has got the same high quality drive mechanism like the DRAGON and > enables you to adjust everything manually: The azymuth of the record head, > the equalization and the BIAS so you can acheive the sound you like. > > So: Go and get this ZX-7 before our special friend Carlos, the tape man (Hi > Carlos, I enjoy your postings nearly every morning) gets his nakamaniac > hands on it > ;-) > > Regards > > Klaus > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Davin_Clem at mail.sel.sony.com Tue Oct 26 21:51:21 1999 From: Davin_Clem at mail.sel.sony.com (Davin Clem) Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 14:51:21 -0500 Subject: AW: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #47 Message-ID: <00499846.4532@mail.sel.sony.com> Hello Nakheads, I was talking to a gentlemen who had worked for a duplicator company and he mentioned that Nakamichi used I beleive he said an A at the end of the model to denote that it had the industry compliant playback eq. Nakamichi apparantly had a non standard record eq which of couse would require a non standard playback eq. This could explain why some people report that tapes played back in "Un" Nakamichis sound strange. This could also be the possibly incorrect myth that this sound is created because of the "finer recording head gap." Davin Clem Sony Sic ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: AW: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #47 Author: naktalk at naks.com at SONYCOM Date: 9/27/99 8:36 AM Correct - to complete the information: The "E" models where built for the european market. As I remember nearly all later Nak devices (when Nak startet to offer complete systems) got this letter added. In germany there where several decks with the "E", here are the tape decks: The RX series The BX series The CR series (I can't remember a CR-9E) Klaus > If it's anything like the CR-7 series, the "A" & "E" suffixes indicate the > country or region for which the unit was built. > i.e., all CR-7A decks are CR-7s, but not vice-versa. > I've never heard of a CR-9 > dd > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 9:10 PM > Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #47 > > > > Fellow Naks: > > > > Relatively simple question, I think: Can anyone tell me what's the > > difference, if any, between a CR-2 and a CR-2A??? I've also seen 'E' > models. > > What do these letters mean? Are there any different features among > them?? > > > > Now a little tougher: I also remeber reading somewhere (perhaps on this > list) > > about a model CR-9. However, I dont see it on the nak.com homepage. Does > this > > model even exist?? If it does, can anyone explain why it isnt on the > nak.com > > page??? > > > > Regards, > > AGloop at aol.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > == > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > == > ======= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== === naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Being new to this forum, not sure if this is an appropriate message to post. Apologies if I have erred. Geoff Ward Technical Support Engineer NVision, Inc. geoffward at nvision1.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Wed Oct 27 14:25:20 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 08:25:20 -0400 Subject: AW: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #47 References: <00499846.4532@mail.sel.sony.com> Message-ID: <001f01bf2076$5651e2a0$312f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello dave: I don't think your friend is totally correct, but, I'll investigate further about it. We used to have 30 MR-2's for Real Time duplication and nothing implies any special eq or " industry compliant " anything. The MR 2's were specifically designed for duplication and everything was standard. As far as the heads, there is a difference among gaps. When you record on a high end Nakamichi model that comes with this " narrow heads " and pad lifter like the Dragon etc ... you'll find that when playback in a wider head deck configuration, like a Revox B-215, the tracking wouldn't be as accurate as it should be due to azymuth differences, on the contrary, if you record in an MR 2, for example, with the more standard wider head, it's gona be more compatible with non Nak's decks. Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Davin Clem To: Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 1999 3:51 PM Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #47 > Hello Nakheads, > > I was talking to a gentlemen who had worked for a duplicator company > and he mentioned that Nakamichi used I beleive he said an A at the end > of the model to denote that it had the industry compliant playback eq. > > Nakamichi apparantly had a non standard record eq which of couse would > require a non standard playback eq. This could explain why some people > report that tapes played back in "Un" Nakamichis sound strange. > > This could also be the possibly incorrect myth that this sound is > created because of the "finer recording head gap." > > > Davin Clem > Sony Sic > > > ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ > Subject: AW: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #47 > Author: naktalk at naks.com at SONYCOM > Date: 9/27/99 8:36 AM > > > Correct - to complete the information: The "E" models where built for the > european market. As I remember nearly all later Nak devices (when Nak > startet to offer complete systems) got this letter added. In germany there > where several decks with the "E", here are the tape decks: > The RX series > The BX series > The CR series (I can't remember a CR-9E) > > Klaus > > > If it's anything like the CR-7 series, the "A" & "E" suffixes indicate the > > country or region for which the unit was built. > > i.e., all CR-7A decks are CR-7s, but not vice-versa. > > I've never heard of a CR-9 > > dd > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: > > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 9:10 PM > > Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #47 > > > > > > > Fellow Naks: > > > > > > Relatively simple question, I think: Can anyone tell me what's the > > > difference, if any, between a CR-2 and a CR-2A??? I've also seen 'E' > > models. > > > What do these letters mean? Are there any different features among > > them?? > > > > > > Now a little tougher: I also remeber reading somewhere (perhaps on this > > list) > > > about a model CR-9. However, I dont see it on the nak.com homepage. Does > > this > > > model even exist?? If it does, can anyone explain why it isnt on the > > nak.com > > > page??? > > > > > > Regards, > > > AGloop at aol.com > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > == > > ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > == > > ======= > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ==== > === > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ==== > === > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From reiser at nike.nrl.navy.mil Wed Oct 27 16:56:09 1999 From: reiser at nike.nrl.navy.mil (Paul Reiser) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 500 auction Message-ID: <199910271456.KAA20406@nike.nrl.navy.mil> Hi - just to let everybody know I am auctioning a Nakamichi 500 tape deck with user manual and service manual on eBay. Check out: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=185408284 Thanks Paul Reiser ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From GgergM at aol.com Wed Oct 27 20:43:56 1999 From: GgergM at aol.com (GgergM at aol.com) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 14:43:56 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Revox B-77 Message-ID: <0.6e54c696.2548a1ec@aol.com> Carlos - I am sending you out a check for $570.10 today for your B-77. It is a personal check, so take your time to make sure it clears before you send out the deck. I gave you my address before, but in case you need it again, it is: Gregg Mitchell Sound World 9360 State Road 16 Onalaska, WI 54650 - Gregg ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Wed Oct 27 21:50:39 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:50:39 +0300 Subject: AW: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #47 References: <00499846.4532@mail.sel.sony.com> <001f01bf2076$5651e2a0$312f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <000901bf20b4$8d0e7400$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Hi Carlos, You are right, Nak's has standard record/playback frequency correction. 70/120 uS for playback, and as far as it's gives flat responce for test tape all the record corrections are made to get flat responce from recordings. The difference is that Nak's heads are so superior that can get more from the tapes than most of the other heads, and can record higher frequences as well. As foe the gaps - in three-head design heads made with optimal gaps for recording and for playbac, but in two heads they have to find compromise, as wider gap better for recording and "narrower" gap is better for playback - but even two-headed Nak's better than most of the other's brands three-headed machines. Michael. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Wed Oct 27 21:55:47 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 22:55:47 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Restoring a BX-150 References: <329AA4E7412ED111B30D00A024CDD94780F760@yosemite-E0.foothill.net> Message-ID: <001d01bf20b5$45cd11e0$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Hi Geoff, I have part of the service manual for BX-1, which has almost the same schematic (main difference - Dolby C circuit). It's in tif files, and zipped takes about 1,5 Mb. Please, let me know if you want it and I'll send it to you. I played with (and fully adjusted) BX-1, BX-100, BX-125 and BX-150 and if you will have any questions - I'll be glad to help you with it. Michael. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From GeoffWard at nvision1.com Thu Oct 28 00:52:35 1999 From: GeoffWard at nvision1.com (Geoff Ward) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 00:52:35 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:42:10 -0700 Message-ID: <329AA4E7412ED111B30D00A024CDD94780F76A@yosemite-E0.foothill.net> Michael, Appreciate the offer on the manual, and will gladly take you up on it. My email address is geoffward at nvision1.com . I bought the BX-150 new in 1983 I believe (had to work 3 jobs one summer to pay for it!) so it has great value to me, in addition to being a great machine. During my move to California it sat in storage for quite a few months and just hasn't been the same since. A little TLC should have it back to normal. If I can return the favour to you some time in the future will gladly do so. Thanks again, Geoff Ward ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Oct 28 02:20:43 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 20:20:43 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Revox B-77 References: <0.6e54c696.2548a1ec@aol.com> Message-ID: <002c01bf20da$46982a40$f02f2ac4@coqui.net> Thank you Gregg. She is anxious to fly to her new home ! best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 2:43 PM Subject: [naktalk] Revox B-77 > Carlos - > > I am sending you out a check for $570.10 today for your B-77. It is a > personal check, so take your time to make sure it clears before you send out > the deck. I gave you my address before, but in case you need it again, it is: > > Gregg Mitchell > Sound World > 9360 State Road 16 > Onalaska, WI 54650 > > - Gregg > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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I'm also wondering where the best service center might be, and recomendations are gladly appreciated! Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From w.smetanig at chello.at Fri Oct 29 21:29:45 1999 From: w.smetanig at chello.at (Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:29:45 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 Message-ID: <003501bf2243$f6be8ee0$4601010a@P200.telekabel.at> Hi! I´m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe both:-)) Could anyone be so kind to help me make my choice much easier? Which one is better? What are the main differences? Thanks and greetings from Austria Wolfgang -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tidybear at juno.com Fri Oct 29 22:10:38 1999 From: tidybear at juno.com (tidybear at juno.com) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 13:10:38 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 References: <003501bf2243$f6be8ee0$4601010a@p200.telekabel.at> Message-ID: <19991029.131039.6742.0.tidybear@juno.com> buy the ZX9. it has more and better features, and sonically better than ZX7 in comparision, but ZX7 is still a very good deck to sought after. mike >Hi! >I=B4m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe both:-)) >Could anyone be so kind to help me make my choice much easier? >Which one is better? >What are the main differences? > >Thanks > >and greetings from Austria > >Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Sat Oct 30 00:04:13 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 16:04:13 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 References: <003501bf2243$f6be8ee0$4601010a@P200.telekabel.at> Message-ID: <381A19DC.3C61EECD@emall-online.com> The only real difference is that the ZX-7 is belt drive dual capstan & the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & has much lower wow/flutter. They usually measure 0.012 percent on my bench, versus 0.025 percent for the ZX-7. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > Hi! > I´m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe both:-)) > Could anyone be so kind to help me make my choice much easier? > Which one is better? > What are the main differences? > > Thanks > > and greetings from Austria > > Wolfgang ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jazzisjazz at mindspring.com Sat Oct 30 01:16:17 1999 From: jazzisjazz at mindspring.com (Stanley P. Pickens) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:16:17 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19991029231617.006955a8@pop.mindspring.com> Hi All, I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f performance would compare to these two decks. Any idea Stephen? Stan At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 is belt drive dual capstan & >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & has much lower wow/flutter. >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my bench, versus 0.025 percent for >the ZX-7. > >Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: >> >> Hi! >> I´m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe both:-)) >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make my choice much easier? >> Which one is better? >> What are the main differences? >> >> Thanks >> >> and greetings from Austria >> >> Wolfgang >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Sat Oct 30 02:30:28 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 References: <1.5.4.32.19991029231617.006955a8@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: <381A3C24.90C46C35@emall-online.com> The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to the ZX-7, other than the auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record azimuth adjust cable, so the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct drive dual capstans, BTW, are not identical to the Dragon. They actually have larger flywheels & there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 percent, although I believe this to be the only superiority in the ZX-9. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer "Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > Hi All, > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f performance would compare to > these two decks. > Any idea Stephen? > > Stan > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 is belt drive dual capstan & > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & has much lower wow/flutter. > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my bench, versus 0.025 percent for > >the ZX-7. > > > >Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > >> > >> Hi! > >> I´m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe both:-)) > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make my choice much easier? > >> Which one is better? > >> What are the main differences? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> and greetings from Austria > >> > >> Wolfgang > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jeffchua at hotmail.com Sat Oct 30 15:05:10 1999 From: jeffchua at hotmail.com (chua jeffrey) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 06:05:10 PDT Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 Message-ID: <19991030130511.21612.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi Steven You expert advice is needed. I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 or ZX-9. I heard from a friend who owned both before that they were very good decks. I personally own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was bought new while the 1000-ZXL was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as the 1000-ZXL needs servicing and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent to set up their service dept. I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the performance of both decks. In your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon or the 1000-ZXL? I would certainly want to get the set running as soon as possible to hear and feel the sonic difference. Best Regards Jeffrey >From: Stephen Sank2 >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to the ZX-7, other than the >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record azimuth adjust cable, so >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct drive dual capstans, BTW, >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually have larger flywheels & >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 percent, although I >believe this to be the only superiority in the ZX-9. > >Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f performance would compare to > > these two decks. > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > Stan > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 is belt drive dual capstan & > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & has much lower wow/flutter. > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my bench, versus 0.025 percent >for > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > >Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul >Boulevard > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > >> > > >> Hi! > > >> I�m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe both:-)) > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make my choice much easier? > > >> Which one is better? > > >> What are the main differences? > > >> > > >> Thanks > > >> > > >> and greetings from Austria > > >> > > >> Wolfgang > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > ======== > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > ======== > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hjang2 at yahoo.com Sat Oct 30 21:36:07 1999 From: hjang2 at yahoo.com (Howie Jang) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 12:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 Message-ID: <19991030193607.28537.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Hello, I think it is going to be much exciting to compare the best cassette (recording and playing) deck among Nakamichi, Tandberg, Revox or Studer.(Sony ES and Teac 8030S might also be very good choice?) Has anyone done this kind comparison and like to share with us? I personally own a 700ZXE but in Stephen Sank shop for maintenance and also just bought an all 10 Tandberg 3004(not 3014 or 3014a) that one of the stereo magazines claimed superior recordings than the Nakamichi Dragon??? I will try to do this comparison using my rust ear after my 700ZXE went back from Stephen. But, let me know if any amateur like to do this and also lived in San Francisco Bay area.(I can bring my 700ZXE, CR-7A and 3004.) It's very exciting to see the best commercial cassette deck among: Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL(ZXE), ZX9, CR-7A Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004 Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 Sony: 959ES, 909ES Teac: 8030S Pioneer: CTS830S Do I miss any? Thanks, -Howie --- chua jeffrey wrote: > Hi Steven > > You expert advice is needed. > > I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 or > ZX-9. I heard from a > friend who owned both before that they were very > good decks. I personally > own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was bought > new while the 1000-ZXL > was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as the > 1000-ZXL needs servicing > and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent to > set up their service > dept. > > I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the > performance of both decks. In > your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon or > the 1000-ZXL? I would > certainly want to get the set running as soon as > possible to hear and feel > the sonic difference. > > Best Regards > Jeffrey > > > >From: Stephen Sank2 > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > >To: naktalk at naks.com > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > > > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to the > ZX-7, other than the > >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record > azimuth adjust cable, so > >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct drive > dual capstans, BTW, > >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually > have larger flywheels & > >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 > percent, although I > >believe this to be the only superiority in the > ZX-9. > > > >Website: > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > Champlain > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / > 7611 Menaul Boulevard > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f > performance would compare to > > > these two decks. > > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 is > belt drive dual capstan & > > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & has > much lower wow/flutter. > > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my bench, > versus 0.025 percent > >for > > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > > > >Website: > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > Champlain > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner > / 7611 Menaul > >Boulevard > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Hi! > > > >> I�m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe > both:-)) > > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make my > choice much easier? > > > >> Which one is better? > > > >> What are the main differences? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks > > > >> > > > >> and greetings from Austria > > > >> > > > >> Wolfgang > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > ======== > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at > http://www.hotmail.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jeidbo at toolcity.net Sat Oct 30 22:44:28 1999 From: jeidbo at toolcity.net (Joel Eidbo) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:44:28 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 Message-ID: <199910302104.RAA04718@wrench.toolcity.net> the teac Z7000 is quite the deck! what is the pioneer cassette in your list? i have never heard of it. dr. bo ---------- > From: Howie Jang > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: hjang2 at yahoo.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 3:36 PM > > > Hello, > > I think it is going to be much exciting to compare the > best cassette (recording and playing) deck among > Nakamichi, Tandberg, Revox or Studer.(Sony ES and Teac > 8030S might also be very good choice?) > > Has anyone done this kind comparison and like to share > with us? I personally own a 700ZXE but in Stephen > Sank shop for maintenance and also just bought an all > 10 Tandberg 3004(not 3014 or 3014a) that one of the > stereo magazines claimed superior recordings than the > Nakamichi Dragon??? I will try to do this comparison > using my rust ear after my 700ZXE went back from > Stephen. But, let me know if any amateur like to do > this and also lived in San Francisco Bay area.(I can > bring my 700ZXE, CR-7A and 3004.) It's very exciting > to see the best commercial cassette deck among: > > Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL(ZXE), ZX9, CR-7A > Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004 > Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 > Sony: 959ES, 909ES > Teac: 8030S > Pioneer: CTS830S > Do I miss any? > > Thanks, > -Howie > > --- chua jeffrey wrote: > > Hi Steven > > > > You expert advice is needed. > > > > I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 or > > ZX-9. I heard from a > > friend who owned both before that they were very > > good decks. I personally > > own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was bought > > new while the 1000-ZXL > > was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as the > > 1000-ZXL needs servicing > > and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent to > > set up their service > > dept. > > > > I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the > > performance of both decks. In > > your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon or > > the 1000-ZXL? I would > > certainly want to get the set running as soon as > > possible to hear and feel > > the sonic difference. > > > > Best Regards > > Jeffrey > > > > > > >From: Stephen Sank2 > > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > > >To: naktalk at naks.com > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > > > > > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to the > > ZX-7, other than the > > >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record > > azimuth adjust cable, so > > >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct drive > > dual capstans, BTW, > > >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually > > have larger flywheels & > > >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 > > percent, although I > > >believe this to be the only superiority in the > > ZX-9. > > > > > >Website: > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > > Champlain > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / > > 7611 Menaul Boulevard > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f > > performance would compare to > > > > these two decks. > > > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 is > > belt drive dual capstan & > > > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & has > > much lower wow/flutter. > > > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my bench, > > versus 0.025 percent > > >for > > > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > > > > > >Website: > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > > Champlain > > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner > > / 7611 Menaul > > >Boulevard > > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Hi! > > > > >> I´m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe > > both:-)) > > > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make my > > choice much easier? > > > > >> Which one is better? > > > > >> What are the main differences? > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks > > > > >> > > > > >> and greetings from Austria > > > > >> > > > > >> Wolfgang > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > ======== > > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Sat Oct 30 23:18:55 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 17:18:55 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 References: <19991030193607.28537.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <005901bf231c$5fbde480$3f3a5e18@stny.rr.com> I'd add the Onkyo Integra TA-2090 to the list. I bought one new about a dozen years ago, and it shares shelf space with a Dragon and a CR-7A. In the absolute, the Naks are a scosche better -- the Dragon for playback, the CR-7A for recording -- but it's closer than you'd think. DD ----- Original Message ----- From: Howie Jang To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 Hello, I think it is going to be much exciting to compare the best cassette (recording and playing) deck among Nakamichi, Tandberg, Revox or Studer.(Sony ES and Teac 8030S might also be very good choice?) Has anyone done this kind comparison and like to share with us? I personally own a 700ZXE but in Stephen Sank shop for maintenance and also just bought an all 10 Tandberg 3004(not 3014 or 3014a) that one of the stereo magazines claimed superior recordings than the Nakamichi Dragon??? I will try to do this comparison using my rust ear after my 700ZXE went back from Stephen. But, let me know if any amateur like to do this and also lived in San Francisco Bay area.(I can bring my 700ZXE, CR-7A and 3004.) It's very exciting to see the best commercial cassette deck among: Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL(ZXE), ZX9, CR-7A Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004 Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 Sony: 959ES, 909ES Teac: 8030S Pioneer: CTS830S Do I miss any? Thanks, -Howie --- chua jeffrey wrote: > Hi Steven > > You expert advice is needed. > > I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 or > ZX-9. I heard from a > friend who owned both before that they were very > good decks. I personally > own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was bought > new while the 1000-ZXL > was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as the > 1000-ZXL needs servicing > and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent to > set up their service > dept. > > I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the > performance of both decks. In > your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon or > the 1000-ZXL? I would > certainly want to get the set running as soon as > possible to hear and feel > the sonic difference. > > Best Regards > Jeffrey > > > >From: Stephen Sank2 > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > >To: naktalk at naks.com > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > > > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to the > ZX-7, other than the > >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record > azimuth adjust cable, so > >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct drive > dual capstans, BTW, > >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually > have larger flywheels & > >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 > percent, although I > >believe this to be the only superiority in the > ZX-9. > > > >Website: > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > Champlain > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / > 7611 Menaul Boulevard > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f > performance would compare to > > > these two decks. > > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 is > belt drive dual capstan & > > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & has > much lower wow/flutter. > > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my bench, > versus 0.025 percent > >for > > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > > > >Website: > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > Champlain > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner > / 7611 Menaul > >Boulevard > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Hi! > > > >> I´m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe > both:-)) > > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make my > choice much easier? > > > >> Which one is better? > > > >> What are the main differences? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks > > > >> > > > >> and greetings from Austria > > > >> > > > >> Wolfgang > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > ======== > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at > http://www.hotmail.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From targowski at mediaone.net Sat Oct 30 23:39:41 1999 From: targowski at mediaone.net (targowski) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 16:39:41 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 References: <19991030193607.28537.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <381B659D.1808D176@mediaone.net> I would add the following to the list ... Pioneer CT-95, CT-93 (models of 90's) SONY TC-K7ES, TC-KA3ES (7 is current in Japan, 3 is current in the US) Teac Z7000 & Z5000 (late 1980's) Onkyo TA2090 (mid 80's) Bang & Olufsen 9000 (mid 80's) Stan Howie Jang wrote: > > > Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL(ZXE), ZX9, CR-7A > Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004 > Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 > Sony: 959ES, 909ES > Teac: 8030S > Pioneer: CTS830S > Do I miss any? > > Thanks, > -Howie > > --- chua jeffrey wrote: > > Hi Steven > > > > You expert advice is needed. > > > > I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 or > > ZX-9. I heard from a > > friend who owned both before that they were very > > good decks. I personally > > own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was bought > > new while the 1000-ZXL > > was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as the > > 1000-ZXL needs servicing > > and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent to > > set up their service > > dept. > > > > I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the > > performance of both decks. In > > your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon or > > the 1000-ZXL? I would > > certainly want to get the set running as soon as > > possible to hear and feel > > the sonic difference. > > > > Best Regards > > Jeffrey > > > > > > >From: Stephen Sank2 > > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > > >To: naktalk at naks.com > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > > > > > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to the > > ZX-7, other than the > > >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record > > azimuth adjust cable, so > > >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct drive > > dual capstans, BTW, > > >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually > > have larger flywheels & > > >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 > > percent, although I > > >believe this to be the only superiority in the > > ZX-9. > > > > > >Website: > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > > Champlain > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / > > 7611 Menaul Boulevard > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f > > performance would compare to > > > > these two decks. > > > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 is > > belt drive dual capstan & > > > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & has > > much lower wow/flutter. > > > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my bench, > > versus 0.025 percent > > >for > > > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > > > > > >Website: > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > > Champlain > > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner > > / 7611 Menaul > > >Boulevard > > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Hi! > > > > >> I´m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe > > both:-)) > > > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make my > > choice much easier? > > > > >> Which one is better? > > > > >> What are the main differences? > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks > > > > >> > > > > >> and greetings from Austria > > > > >> > > > > >> Wolfgang > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > ======== > > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sun Oct 31 01:16:20 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:16:20 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 References: <19991030193607.28537.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <001901bf232c$c763c180$432f2ac4@coqui.net> Very interesting proposal, Howie. The Aiwa 6900 MK II was a very, very nice deck and their top of the line during the late 70's. What about the Marantz SD 9000 and the late Vector Research VCX 800 ? Also, we have the Neal Ferrograph 302, Eumig Metropolitan CCD, Bang & Olufsen 8000 and the Tandberg TD 440 A. The Teac C-1 was a workhorse too. And perhaps the Pioneer CT F1250 qualifies in this list. I vote to make a " Cassette Deck Hall of Fame " where we can vote for a definitive list of wonderful machines. Best to all, The tape man ----- Original Message ----- From: Howie Jang To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > Hello, > > I think it is going to be much exciting to compare the > best cassette (recording and playing) deck among > Nakamichi, Tandberg, Revox or Studer.(Sony ES and Teac > 8030S might also be very good choice?) > > Has anyone done this kind comparison and like to share > with us? I personally own a 700ZXE but in Stephen > Sank shop for maintenance and also just bought an all > 10 Tandberg 3004(not 3014 or 3014a) that one of the > stereo magazines claimed superior recordings than the > Nakamichi Dragon??? I will try to do this comparison > using my rust ear after my 700ZXE went back from > Stephen. But, let me know if any amateur like to do > this and also lived in San Francisco Bay area.(I can > bring my 700ZXE, CR-7A and 3004.) It's very exciting > to see the best commercial cassette deck among: > > Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL(ZXE), ZX9, CR-7A > Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004 > Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 > Sony: 959ES, 909ES > Teac: 8030S > Pioneer: CTS830S > Do I miss any? > > Thanks, > -Howie > > --- chua jeffrey wrote: > > Hi Steven > > > > You expert advice is needed. > > > > I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 or > > ZX-9. I heard from a > > friend who owned both before that they were very > > good decks. I personally > > own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was bought > > new while the 1000-ZXL > > was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as the > > 1000-ZXL needs servicing > > and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent to > > set up their service > > dept. > > > > I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the > > performance of both decks. In > > your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon or > > the 1000-ZXL? I would > > certainly want to get the set running as soon as > > possible to hear and feel > > the sonic difference. > > > > Best Regards > > Jeffrey > > > > > > >From: Stephen Sank2 > > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > > >To: naktalk at naks.com > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > > > > > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to the > > ZX-7, other than the > > >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record > > azimuth adjust cable, so > > >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct drive > > dual capstans, BTW, > > >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually > > have larger flywheels & > > >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 > > percent, although I > > >believe this to be the only superiority in the > > ZX-9. > > > > > >Website: > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > > Champlain > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / > > 7611 Menaul Boulevard > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f > > performance would compare to > > > > these two decks. > > > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 is > > belt drive dual capstan & > > > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & has > > much lower wow/flutter. > > > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my bench, > > versus 0.025 percent > > >for > > > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > > > > > >Website: > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > > Champlain > > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner > > / 7611 Menaul > > >Boulevard > > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Hi! > > > > >> I´m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe > > both:-)) > > > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make my > > choice much easier? > > > > >> Which one is better? > > > > >> What are the main differences? > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks > > > > >> > > > > >> and greetings from Austria > > > > >> > > > > >> Wolfgang > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > ======== > > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sun Oct 31 01:26:11 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:26:11 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 References: <199910302104.RAA04718@wrench.toolcity.net> Message-ID: <002301bf232e$273adca0$432f2ac4@coqui.net> Joel is very right. I have an old Stereo Review issue where they compare the " best decks in the world ". There were The Dragon, Revox B 215, Teac Z 7000, Denon and Sony (models I don't remember ). They did an interesting shootout. Results ? The final and clear winners were the Dragon and Revox. They said that the Revox engineering, flat recording and the least wow & flutter numbers in the history make her the finest deck. BUT, the Dragon was the clear winner to play pre-recorded tapes and any other tape recorded in a different deck. So, they didn't choose an overall winner but let the reader make the final selection. ME ? Well, I have a couple of decks ,as you may know already, and there's something I like from my heavily serviced and modified version 700 ZXl by the Nak God himself , Mr. Stephen Sank. Definetely, it is an amazing deck that reflects how ahead of its time Nakamichi was in the 80's ! The 1000 ZXL is obviously a model for the history of cassette recording as well as the Dragon is. But, I still use my B-215 for recording and the Dragon for playback when dubbing tapes for the Nak Tree. Why ? Because I believe there's no better duo in my collection. Perhaps they are not the best ones, but I'm sure they're near that holy grail of audio cassette recording ! Best to all and happy halloween from the Caribbean, Carlos aka The tape man ----- Original Message ----- From: Joel Eidbo To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > the teac Z7000 is quite the deck! what is the pioneer cassette in your > list? i have never heard of it. dr. bo > > ---------- > > From: Howie Jang > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Cc: hjang2 at yahoo.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 3:36 PM > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I think it is going to be much exciting to compare the > > best cassette (recording and playing) deck among > > Nakamichi, Tandberg, Revox or Studer.(Sony ES and Teac > > 8030S might also be very good choice?) > > > > Has anyone done this kind comparison and like to share > > with us? I personally own a 700ZXE but in Stephen > > Sank shop for maintenance and also just bought an all > > 10 Tandberg 3004(not 3014 or 3014a) that one of the > > stereo magazines claimed superior recordings than the > > Nakamichi Dragon??? I will try to do this comparison > > using my rust ear after my 700ZXE went back from > > Stephen. But, let me know if any amateur like to do > > this and also lived in San Francisco Bay area.(I can > > bring my 700ZXE, CR-7A and 3004.) It's very exciting > > to see the best commercial cassette deck among: > > > > Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL(ZXE), ZX9, CR-7A > > Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004 > > Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 > > Sony: 959ES, 909ES > > Teac: 8030S > > Pioneer: CTS830S > > Do I miss any? > > > > Thanks, > > -Howie > > > > --- chua jeffrey wrote: > > > Hi Steven > > > > > > You expert advice is needed. > > > > > > I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 or > > > ZX-9. I heard from a > > > friend who owned both before that they were very > > > good decks. I personally > > > own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was bought > > > new while the 1000-ZXL > > > was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as the > > > 1000-ZXL needs servicing > > > and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent to > > > set up their service > > > dept. > > > > > > I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the > > > performance of both decks. In > > > your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon or > > > the 1000-ZXL? I would > > > certainly want to get the set running as soon as > > > possible to hear and feel > > > the sonic difference. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Jeffrey > > > > > > > > > >From: Stephen Sank2 > > > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > > > >To: naktalk at naks.com > > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > > > > > > > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to the > > > ZX-7, other than the > > > >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record > > > azimuth adjust cable, so > > > >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct drive > > > dual capstans, BTW, > > > >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually > > > have larger flywheels & > > > >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 > > > percent, although I > > > >believe this to be the only superiority in the > > > ZX-9. > > > > > > > >Website: > > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > > > Champlain > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / > > > 7611 Menaul Boulevard > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f > > > performance would compare to > > > > > these two decks. > > > > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 is > > > belt drive dual capstan & > > > > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & has > > > much lower wow/flutter. > > > > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my bench, > > > versus 0.025 percent > > > >for > > > > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > > > > > > > >Website: > > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > > > Champlain > > > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner > > > / 7611 Menaul > > > >Boulevard > > > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi! > > > > > >> I´m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe > > > both:-)) > > > > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make my > > > choice much easier? > > > > > >> Which one is better? > > > > > >> What are the main differences? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Thanks > > > > > >> > > > > > >> and greetings from Austria > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Wolfgang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > > > ======== > > > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > >resource. > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > >resource. > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > >resource. > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at > > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sun Oct 31 01:26:58 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 19:26:58 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 References: <19991030193607.28537.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> <381B659D.1808D176@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <002b01bf232e$4350cda0$432f2ac4@coqui.net> Very good, Stan ! Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: targowski To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > I would add the following to the list ... > > Pioneer CT-95, CT-93 (models of 90's) > SONY TC-K7ES, TC-KA3ES (7 is current in Japan, 3 is current in the US) > Teac Z7000 & Z5000 (late 1980's) > Onkyo TA2090 (mid 80's) > Bang & Olufsen 9000 (mid 80's) > > Stan > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Sun Oct 31 02:24:00 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:24:00 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 Message-ID: <381B8C20.7992C912@emall-online.com> OK, let's get all this stuff straight. There have been other makes of decks that have come superficially close in sonic performance to the Naks. However, 1)NOBODY has ever made cassette heads that have the 20Hz & below response like Naks, & 2)NOBODY else's transports hold up as well as Nak-transport Naks. Even though decks like the Revox B215 & Tandberg 3014 were built like tanks, they still don't age as well. Nor do they handle tapes as well, especially the Tandbergs. The original 700 & 1000 came out almost 25 years ago, and I have YET to have to condemn one. I can't say that about any other make's older decks. As for low frequency response, any crystal-permalloy head Nak, from 1978 on, will record/pb 16Hz -3dB on SX/SA, and 12Hz(!) -3dB on ZX/MA tapes. They also have an almost complete absence of "head lumps", i.e., 1-3dB fluctuations in response in the 50-200Hz region. Nobody can touch that. Not to mention that any such Nak also has discernible rec/pb response out to 35kHz. Takes 24/96 digital to touch that. So enough banter about other people's decks! BTW, from this tech/engineer/audiophile's point of view, some of the decks you guys mention are total pieces of crap! (e.g., B&O 9000/8000, Teac Z7000, Sony anything, Pioneer anything, etc.) Just trying to keep this list on track. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Scalnajim at aol.com Sun Oct 31 02:33:25 1999 From: Scalnajim at aol.com (Scalnajim at aol.com) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 21:33:25 EDT Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 Message-ID: <0.641725c6.254cf665@aol.com> There are two differences between the zx-9 and zx-7. The first is the direct drive motor which was later used in the Dragon. This direct drive motor was designed to eliminate a type of audible noise created by direct drive motors called "cogging" this noise is not part of the flutter specs provided by manufactures. This is why many high end turntables used a belt drive system. The second difference is the zx-9 has a higher quality amplifier circuitry. Just a foot note, many people have been writing about super-Tuned Editions zx-9's, all zx-9's were super-Tuned Editions and the zx-7 was the norm. Both the zx-7 and zx-9 sound better than the Dragon when you are playing tapes recorded on then. But if you are playing tapes recorded on a deck other than your own then the Dragon is better. The reason for both is the playback head, in the dragon the play back head is a stationer auto revers head which can not record as high of frequencies then other high end nak decks. I suggest reading old audio reviews on all high end naks. The zx-7 was tested by audio mag. in their may 1982 edition. The tape deck tested with a zx tape with Dolby c on and at -20 DB record level 11hz-25.6khz +/- 3db and at 0db it was 11hz to 22.2khz +/-3 DB. Scott al-najim ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sun Oct 31 03:30:12 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:30:12 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak Decks reviewed.... Message-ID: Greetings! I would like to mention that there are a few interesting articles from past audio magazines that review some of the classic Nakamichi decks. I scoured the local library a few months ago, and found articles covering the Dragon (Audio/May 1983), BX-300 (Audio/Nov 1984), ZX-7 (Audio/May 1982), 1000ZXL (Audio/Sep 1982), CR-7A (Aug 1986). I'm wondering about the other audio-related magazines of the 1980s, and whether they covered these Nak machines and others? Does anyone have any info on whether there is a reliable database identifying where other astute reviews of Classic Nak decks can be found? I've been an avid reader of Audio magazine thru the years, and tried to keep informed on Nak decks and technology. What eludes me is review articles on the decks I personally own, the RX-505 and RX-202. If anyone has any info that will help lead me to finding these issues of Audio, Stereo Review, or Audiophile (or others, in Europe of Asia?) magazines, I'd like to hear from you. Regarding the pantheon of cassette deck technology, and which decks belong, I must agree with Mr Sank; The Nak decks rule above all the rest! Keep those other decks where they belong, a bit below Nakamichi's immortal status as the finest analog cassette technology created in during the 1970's and 1980's...... Kenny Parsons (aka Mr Blues) Madison, WI USA --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:47:51 naktalk-digest wrote: >Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:24:00 -0600 >From: Stephen Sank2 >Subject: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 > >OK, let's get all this stuff straight. There have been other makes of >decks that have come superficially close in sonic performance to the >Naks. However, 1)NOBODY has ever made cassette heads that have the 20Hz >& below response like Naks, & 2)NOBODY else's transports hold up as well >as Nak-transport Naks. Even though decks like the Revox B215 & Tandberg >3014 were built like tanks, they still don't age as well. Nor do they >handle tapes as well, especially the Tandbergs. The original 700 & 1000 >came out almost 25 years ago, and I have YET to have to condemn one. I >can't say that about any other make's older decks. As for low frequency >response, any crystal-permalloy head Nak, from 1978 on, will record/pb >16Hz -3dB on SX/SA, and 12Hz(!) -3dB on ZX/MA tapes. They also have an >almost complete absence of "head lumps", i.e., 1-3dB fluctuations in >response in the 50-200Hz region. Nobody can touch that. Not to mention >that any such Nak also has discernible rec/pb response out to 35kHz. >Takes 24/96 digital to touch that. So enough banter about other >people's decks! BTW, from this tech/engineer/audiophile's point of >view, some of the decks you guys mention are total pieces of crap! >(e.g., B&O 9000/8000, Teac Z7000, Sony anything, Pioneer anything, etc.) > >Just trying to keep this list on track. > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bochar at epix.net Sun Oct 31 04:07:33 1999 From: bochar at epix.net (bob) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:07:33 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak Decks reviewed.... References: Message-ID: <381BB275.F5766F4A@epix.net> OK Goys... Lets get those articles sent in on pdf, jpg, html or whatever...we all are waiting.. thanks bob /;o) The BlueSwapper wrote: > > Greetings! > > I would like to mention that there are a few interesting articles from past audio magazines that review some of the classic Nakamichi decks. I scoured the local library a few months ago, and found articles covering the Dragon (Audio/May 1983), BX-300 (Audio/Nov 1984), ZX-7 (Audio/May 1982), 1000ZXL (Audio/Sep 1982), CR-7A (Aug 1986). I'm wondering about the other audio-related magazines of the 1980s, and whether they covered these Nak machines and others? Does anyone have any info on whether there is a reliable database identifying where other astute reviews of Classic Nak decks can be found? > > I've been an avid reader of Audio magazine thru the years, and tried to keep informed on Nak decks and technology. What eludes me is review articles on the decks I personally own, the RX-505 and RX-202. If anyone has any info that will help lead me to finding these issues of Audio, Stereo Review, or Audiophile (or others, in Europe of Asia?) magazines, I'd like to hear from you. > > Regarding the pantheon of cassette deck technology, and which decks belong, I must agree with Mr Sank; The Nak decks rule above all the rest! Keep those other decks where they belong, a bit below Nakamichi's immortal status as the finest analog cassette technology created in during the 1970's and 1980's...... > > Kenny Parsons > (aka Mr Blues) > Madison, WI USA > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:47:51 naktalk-digest wrote: > > >Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:24:00 -0600 > >From: Stephen Sank2 > >Subject: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 > > > >OK, let's get all this stuff straight. There have been other makes of > >decks that have come superficially close in sonic performance to the > >Naks. However, 1)NOBODY has ever made cassette heads that have the 20Hz > >& below response like Naks, & 2)NOBODY else's transports hold up as well > >as Nak-transport Naks. Even though decks like the Revox B215 & Tandberg > >3014 were built like tanks, they still don't age as well. Nor do they > >handle tapes as well, especially the Tandbergs. The original 700 & 1000 > >came out almost 25 years ago, and I have YET to have to condemn one. I > >can't say that about any other make's older decks. As for low frequency > >response, any crystal-permalloy head Nak, from 1978 on, will record/pb > >16Hz -3dB on SX/SA, and 12Hz(!) -3dB on ZX/MA tapes. They also have an > >almost complete absence of "head lumps", i.e., 1-3dB fluctuations in > >response in the 50-200Hz region. Nobody can touch that. Not to mention > >that any such Nak also has discernible rec/pb response out to 35kHz. > >Takes 24/96 digital to touch that. So enough banter about other > >people's decks! BTW, from this tech/engineer/audiophile's point of > >view, some of the decks you guys mention are total pieces of crap! > >(e.g., B&O 9000/8000, Teac Z7000, Sony anything, Pioneer anything, etc.) > > > >Just trying to keep this list on track. > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From enoyes at snet.net Sun Oct 31 05:25:52 1999 From: enoyes at snet.net (Ed Noyes) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:25:52 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 References: <19991030193607.28537.rocketmail@web114.yahoomail.com> <001901bf232c$c763c180$432f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <381BC4CE.B737323@snet.net> Nice to see the Aiwa 6900 MkII mentioned... indeed a sweet machine with great sound. The rubber idler wheel and rubber motor shaft on mine have both completely deteriorated to nothing. Any ideas where I can find replacements so that this can be brought back into service? Ed PS Don't forget that some of the better H/Ks had specs that could rival the Nak in many respects while still being quite modestly priced (I've still got the plots on my old 300 which are flat to beyond 20k). Carlos wrote: > Very interesting proposal, Howie. The Aiwa 6900 MK II was a very, very nice > deck and their top of the line during the late 70's. > What about the Marantz SD 9000 and the late Vector Research VCX 800 ? Also, > we have the Neal Ferrograph 302, Eumig Metropolitan CCD, Bang & Olufsen 8000 > and the Tandberg TD 440 A. The Teac C-1 was a workhorse too. And perhaps the > Pioneer CT F1250 qualifies in this list. > > I vote to make a " Cassette Deck Hall of Fame " where we can vote for a > definitive list of wonderful machines. > > Best to all, > > The tape man > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Howie Jang > To: > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 3:36 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > > > > Hello, > > > > I think it is going to be much exciting to compare the > > best cassette (recording and playing) deck among > > Nakamichi, Tandberg, Revox or Studer.(Sony ES and Teac > > 8030S might also be very good choice?) > > > > Has anyone done this kind comparison and like to share > > with us? I personally own a 700ZXE but in Stephen > > Sank shop for maintenance and also just bought an all > > 10 Tandberg 3004(not 3014 or 3014a) that one of the > > stereo magazines claimed superior recordings than the > > Nakamichi Dragon??? I will try to do this comparison > > using my rust ear after my 700ZXE went back from > > Stephen. But, let me know if any amateur like to do > > this and also lived in San Francisco Bay area.(I can > > bring my 700ZXE, CR-7A and 3004.) It's very exciting > > to see the best commercial cassette deck among: > > > > Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL(ZXE), ZX9, CR-7A > > Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004 > > Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 > > Sony: 959ES, 909ES > > Teac: 8030S > > Pioneer: CTS830S > > Do I miss any? > > > > Thanks, > > -Howie > > > > --- chua jeffrey wrote: > > > Hi Steven > > > > > > You expert advice is needed. > > > > > > I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 or > > > ZX-9. I heard from a > > > friend who owned both before that they were very > > > good decks. I personally > > > own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was bought > > > new while the 1000-ZXL > > > was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as the > > > 1000-ZXL needs servicing > > > and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent to > > > set up their service > > > dept. > > > > > > I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the > > > performance of both decks. In > > > your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon or > > > the 1000-ZXL? I would > > > certainly want to get the set running as soon as > > > possible to hear and feel > > > the sonic difference. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Jeffrey > > > > > > > > > >From: Stephen Sank2 > > > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > > > >To: naktalk at naks.com > > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > > > > > > > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to the > > > ZX-7, other than the > > > >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record > > > azimuth adjust cable, so > > > >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct drive > > > dual capstans, BTW, > > > >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually > > > have larger flywheels & > > > >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 > > > percent, although I > > > >believe this to be the only superiority in the > > > ZX-9. > > > > > > > >Website: > > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > > > Champlain > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / > > > 7611 Menaul Boulevard > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f > > > performance would compare to > > > > > these two decks. > > > > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 is > > > belt drive dual capstan & > > > > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & has > > > much lower wow/flutter. > > > > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my bench, > > > versus 0.025 percent > > > >for > > > > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > > > > > > > >Website: > > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > > > Champlain > > > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner > > > / 7611 Menaul > > > >Boulevard > > > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi! > > > > > >> I´m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe > > > both:-)) > > > > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make my > > > choice much easier? > > > > > >> Which one is better? > > > > > >> What are the main differences? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Thanks > > > > > >> > > > > > >> and greetings from Austria > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Wolfgang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > > ======== > > > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > >resource. > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > >resource. > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > >resource. > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > > Get Your Private, Free Email at > > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > > > > > ===== > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From tbra at earthlight.co.nz Sun Oct 31 06:31:18 1999 From: tbra at earthlight.co.nz (Tony Braam) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:31:18 +1300 Subject: [naktalk] Reviews Message-ID: <000201bf2361$2874b400$b10861cb@oemcomputer> For a long time here in NZ, well during the time that NAKS were at their best, audio gear was very expensive so a Nakamichi was a dream purchase. I collected reviews and copies of manufacturers pamphlets - I will make up a list if there is interest. This was the only way I was to get close to a Nakamichi, I have a 670ZX and a 550 but they came later on even though they were "old" when I got them. I can remember seeing the first advert for the ZX7, it had to be the most wonderful looking piece of audio gear I had/have ever seen. Tony ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From tbra at earthlight.co.nz Sun Oct 31 09:17:16 1999 From: tbra at earthlight.co.nz (Tony Braam) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:17:16 +1300 Subject: [naktalk] Adverts, Reviews etc Message-ID: <000101bf2378$57750e00$b40861cb@oemcomputer> Here is a list of what I have, it's done in Wordpad and saved as a RTF document, hope it's of interest. Tony -------------- next part -------------- An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: NAKAMICHI.txt URL: From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sun Oct 31 09:14:09 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 00:14:09 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak RX-202 brochure.... Message-ID: All Right, here's a jump-start (until the serious archivists get their act together)! Have a look at the RX-202 customer brochure at http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/nak202.html. I've posted two of the six pages so far, and I'll get the others up in the next day or so. Anyone who wants to see how Nakamichi devised the unidirectional autoreverse system should have a peek at the brochure sheets I posted. granted, the artwork is a little beat-up, but remember that this deck came out almost fifteen years ago. I've got one of these little gems on my studio shelf, found it at a garage sale a few weeks ago. The RX-505 is the king of the unidirectional breed, and I'll post that brochure when I'm able to (does anyone have some .jpeg files to offer? I'll pay $$'s for an original copy). Those audio magazine articles I have are photo copies, and I'm unsure how well they will reproduce digitally. I'll do some prototyping in the near future. Well, that's enough playing for tonight, bon soir......... Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper On Sat, 30 Oct 1999 23:07:33 bob wrote: >OK Guys... >Lets get those articles sent in on pdf, jpg, html or whatever...we all >are waiting.. >thanks >bob >/;o) > >The BlueSwapper wrote: >> >> Greetings! >> >> I would like to mention that there are a few interesting articles from past audio magazines that review some of the classic Nakamichi decks. I scoured the local library a few months ago, and found articles covering the Dragon (Audio/May 1983), BX-300 (Audio/Nov 1984), ZX-7 (Audio/May 1982), 1000ZXL (Audio/Sep 1982), CR-7A (Aug 1986). I'm wondering about the other audio-related magazines of the 1980s, and whether they covered these Nak machines and others? Does anyone have any info on whether there is a reliable database identifying where other astute reviews of Classic Nak decks can be found? >> >> I've been an avid reader of Audio magazine thru the years, and tried to keep informed on Nak decks and technology. What eludes me is review articles on the decks I personally own, the RX-505 and RX-202. If anyone has any info that will help lead me to finding these issues of Audio, Stereo Review, or Audiophile (or others, in Europe of Asia?) magazines, I'd like to hear from you. >> >> Regarding the pantheon of cassette deck technology, and which decks belong, I must agree with Mr Sank; The Nak decks rule above all the rest! Keep those other decks where they belong, a bit below Nakamichi's immortal status as the finest analog cassette technology created in during the 1970's and 1980's...... >> >> Kenny Parsons >> (aka Mr Blues) >> Madison, WI USA >> >> --- >> Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? >> http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper >> >> On Sun, 31 Oct 1999 02:47:51 naktalk-digest wrote: >> >> >Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:24:00 -0600 >> >From: Stephen Sank2 >> >Subject: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 >> > >> >OK, let's get all this stuff straight. There have been other makes of >> >decks that have come superficially close in sonic performance to the >> >Naks. However, 1)NOBODY has ever made cassette heads that have the 20Hz >> >& below response like Naks, & 2)NOBODY else's transports hold up as well >> >as Nak-transport Naks. Even though decks like the Revox B215 & Tandberg >> >3014 were built like tanks, they still don't age as well. Nor do they >> >handle tapes as well, especially the Tandbergs. The original 700 & 1000 >> >came out almost 25 years ago, and I have YET to have to condemn one. I >> >can't say that about any other make's older decks. As for low frequency >> >response, any crystal-permalloy head Nak, from 1978 on, will record/pb >> >16Hz -3dB on SX/SA, and 12Hz(!) -3dB on ZX/MA tapes. They also have an >> >almost complete absence of "head lumps", i.e., 1-3dB fluctuations in >> >response in the 50-200Hz region. Nobody can touch that. Not to mention >> >that any such Nak also has discernible rec/pb response out to 35kHz. >> >Takes 24/96 digital to touch that. So enough banter about other >> >people's decks! BTW, from this tech/engineer/audiophile's point of >> >view, some of the decks you guys mention are total pieces of crap! >> >(e.g., B&O 9000/8000, Teac Z7000, Sony anything, Pioneer anything, etc.) >> > >> >Just trying to keep this list on track. >> > >> >> Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Sun Oct 31 09:23:33 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 01:23:33 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 References: <19991030130511.21612.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <381BFC85.61046102@emall-online.com> Don't mean to disparage a servicer I know nothing of, but I can't say I would recommend trusting a 1000ZXL to a servicer who is only just setting up. Experience is everything with Naks. As for comparisons, I have never had a 1000ZXL next to a Dragon to do an A/B. I have to say that between the 700ZXE & the Dragon, I called it a toss up on an A/B that I did a long time ago. My only problem with the 1000ZXL is that, if the unit drifts or wears too far out of spec for the auto-calibration system to get a good reading, the unit will not allow you to record & the unit must be connected to a custom computer interface to be re-calibrated. This, as far as I have ever known, is a one-of-kind-per-national-factory-service-center item, i.e., only at the Torrance, California Nak office for the USA. Fortunately, I have only ever had one 1000ZXL that far out, and I did have to send it out to Torrance. Then, of course, I had to fine tune it after it came back, as well as do some mechanical work that they missed. This is why I had for myself a 700ZXE, as it and the 700ZXL did not require the custom computer. Not to mention I have always liked the 700ZX* cosmetics better than the 1000ZXL. Stephen Sank / Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised McIntosh/Nakamichi Servicer chua jeffrey wrote: > > Hi Steven > > You expert advice is needed. > > I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 or ZX-9. I heard from a > friend who owned both before that they were very good decks. I personally > own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was bought new while the 1000-ZXL > was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as the 1000-ZXL needs servicing > and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent to set up their service > dept. > > I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the performance of both decks. In > your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon or the 1000-ZXL? I would > certainly want to get the set running as soon as possible to hear and feel > the sonic difference. > > Best Regards > Jeffrey > > >From: Stephen Sank2 > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > >To: naktalk at naks.com > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > > > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to the ZX-7, other than the > >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record azimuth adjust cable, so > >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct drive dual capstans, BTW, > >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually have larger flywheels & > >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 percent, although I > >believe this to be the only superiority in the ZX-9. > > > >Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f performance would compare to > > > these two decks. > > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 is belt drive dual capstan & > > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & has much lower wow/flutter. > > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my bench, versus 0.025 percent > >for > > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > > > >Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul > >Boulevard > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Hi! > > > >> I´m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe both:-)) > > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make my choice much easier? > > > >> Which one is better? > > > >> What are the main differences? > > > >> > > > >> Thanks > > > >> > > > >> and greetings from Austria > > > >> > > > >> Wolfgang > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > ======== > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hjang2 at yahoo.com Sun Oct 31 12:50:40 1999 From: hjang2 at yahoo.com (Howie Jang) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 03:50:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Cassette Deck Hall for voting the best cassette deck Message-ID: <19991031115040.14607.rocketmail@web117.yahoomail.com> Hello everyone, I think Carlos make a good suggestion, so I will change the Subject to "Cassette Deck Hall for voting the best cassette deck". I got quite a few response about the best cassette deck and here is the revised listing: Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL, 700ZXE, ZX9, ZX7, CR-7A, BX-300, RX-505 Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004, 440A Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 Sony: TC-K7ES, TC-KA3ES, TC-K959ES, TC-K909ES Teac: 8030S, C1, Z7000, Z5000 Pioneer: CT-S830S, CT-F1250, CT-95, CT-93 Aiwa: 6900MKII Denon: DRM24HX Kenwood: KX9050S B&O: 9000, 8000 Onkyo: TA2090 Marantz: SD9000 H/K: 300 Vector Research VCX 800 Neal Ferrograph 302 Eumig Metropolitan CCD Bang & Olufsen 8000 (please just specify your cassette deck in the voting if I still miss your wonderful cassette deck!) The rules: Please select only 5 cassette decks from the following 8 area and also tell me the order sequence(which is very important): I feel the sonic is the most important part, so I give recording and playback 25 quota each and the rest from 5 to 10.(Hope this is very suitable.) Area quota winner quota from 1st to 10th =============== ===== ============================== 1. Recording - 25 (25,24,23,22,21,20,19,18,17,...) 2. Playback - 25 (25,24,23,22,21,20,19,18,17,...) 3. Transport - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) 4. Electronics - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) 5. Quality - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) 6. Function - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) 7. Easy use - 5 (5,4,3,2,1) 8. Easy maintain - 5 (5,4,3,2,1) ===================== Total: 100% Everyone can only pick 5 cassette decks from those 8 area.(please also tell me the order sequence: for example in 1. Recording area: I choose 1.Revox215, 2.700ZXE, 3.CR-7A, 4.3014A, 5.Z7000. So, Revox win 5 points, 700ZXE win 4 points, CR-7A win 3 points, 3014A win 2 ponits, Z7000 win 1 point. If I calculate all of the voting and found: Revox215: 99 points 700ZXL: 97 points 1000ZXL: 91 points dragon: 90 ponits 3014A: 90 points 700ZXE: 89 .. 3004: 85 .. Z7000: 82 .. ZX9: 80 .. ZX7: 75 .. We assign 25 quota in area 1 - 2 for the 1st. 10 quota in area 3 - 6 for the 1st. 5 quota in area 7 - 8 for the 1st. We calculate the quota from 2nd to the last based on the following rules. We decrease 1 quota based on 1-3 points difference. 2 quota based on 4-6 points difference. 3 quota based on 7-9 points difference. I think it's better to see the gap and not just a flat 25,24,23,22,21 ordered quota number. base by the above rules and we will get this quota: 25 quota to Revox215,(since it's the 1st winner.) 24 .. to 700ZXL,(2 points lower, decrease 1 quota) 22 .. to 1000ZXL,(not 23 since the gap is 6 points) 21 .. to dragon and 3014A(since they got tie), 20 .. to 700ZXE, 18 .. to 3004,(not 19 since the gap is 4 ponits) 17 .. to Z7000, 16 .. to ZX9, 14 .. to ZX7.(not 15 since the gap is 5 points) I will calculate the first 10 in 1-6 area and the first 5 in 7-8 area and post the final number(quota) to all of you. I hope the above method is very clear and sounding. So, remember to vote 5 cassette deck by order sequence in all 8 area. Let's start to vote for the best cassette if all of us agree the rule. It's so exciting to see the final... Please just email your voting to hjang2 at yahoo.com for the voting data collecting. Thanks, -Howie --- Carlos wrote: > Very interesting proposal, Howie. The Aiwa 6900 MK > II was a very, very nice > deck and their top of the line during the late 70's. > What about the Marantz SD 9000 and the late Vector > Research VCX 800 ? Also, > we have the Neal Ferrograph 302, Eumig Metropolitan > CCD, Bang & Olufsen 8000 > and the Tandberg TD 440 A. The Teac C-1 was a > workhorse too. And perhaps the > Pioneer CT F1250 qualifies in this list. > > I vote to make a " Cassette Deck Hall of Fame " > where we can vote for a > definitive list of wonderful machines. > > Best to all, > > The tape man > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Howie Jang > To: > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 3:36 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I think it is going to be much exciting to compare > the > > best cassette (recording and playing) deck among > > Nakamichi, Tandberg, Revox or Studer.(Sony ES and > Teac > > 8030S might also be very good choice?) > > > > Has anyone done this kind comparison and like to > share > > with us? I personally own a 700ZXE but in Stephen > > Sank shop for maintenance and also just bought an > all > > 10 Tandberg 3004(not 3014 or 3014a) that one of > the > > stereo magazines claimed superior recordings than > the > > Nakamichi Dragon??? I will try to do this > comparison > > using my rust ear after my 700ZXE went back from > > Stephen. But, let me know if any amateur like to > do > > this and also lived in San Francisco Bay area.(I > can > > bring my 700ZXE, CR-7A and 3004.) It's very > exciting > > to see the best commercial cassette deck among: > > > > Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL(ZXE), ZX9, > CR-7A > > Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004 > > Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 > > Sony: 959ES, 909ES > > Teac: 8030S > > Pioneer: CTS830S > > Do I miss any? > > > > Thanks, > > -Howie > > > > --- chua jeffrey wrote: > > > Hi Steven > > > > > > You expert advice is needed. > > > > > > I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 > or > > > ZX-9. I heard from a > > > friend who owned both before that they were very > > > good decks. I personally > > > own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was > bought > > > new while the 1000-ZXL > > > was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as > the > > > 1000-ZXL needs servicing > > > and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent > to > > > set up their service > > > dept. > > > > > > I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the > > > performance of both decks. In > > > your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon > or > > > the 1000-ZXL? I would > > > certainly want to get the set running as soon as > > > possible to hear and feel > > > the sonic difference. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Jeffrey > > > > > > > > > >From: Stephen Sank2 > > > > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > > > >To: naktalk at naks.com > > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > > > > > > > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to > the > > > ZX-7, other than the > > > >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record > > > azimuth adjust cable, so > > > >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct > drive > > > dual capstans, BTW, > > > >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually > > > have larger flywheels & > > > >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 > > > percent, although I > > > >believe this to be the only superiority in the > > > ZX-9. > > > > > > > >Website: > > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > / > > > Champlain > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner > / > > > 7611 Menaul Boulevard > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f > > > performance would compare to > > > > > these two decks. > > > > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 > is > > > belt drive dual capstan & > > > > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & > has > > > much lower wow/flutter. > > > > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my > bench, > > > versus 0.025 percent > > > >for > > > > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > > > > > > > >Website: > > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > / > > > Champlain > > > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, > owner > > > / 7611 Menaul > > > >Boulevard > > > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] > / > > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi! > > > > > >> I�m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe > > > both:-)) > > > > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make > my > > > choice much easier? > > > > > >> Which one is better? > > > > > >> What are the main differences? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Thanks > > > > > >> > > > > > >> and greetings from Austria > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Wolfgang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > > ======== > > > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the > Unofficial > > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > >resource. > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > === message truncated === ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Sun Oct 31 12:38:00 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:38:00 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak Decks reviewed.... References: Message-ID: <381C2A18.691C@bestweb.net> Kenny, I am lucky enough to own all (or most) Stereo Review magazines from 1981 on, all (or most) Audio magazines from 1981 on (and a large portion of issues from 1977 to 1980,) and all of the now defunct High Fidelity magazines fom 1982 until its demise in 1989. All three of these periodicals are rich with various Nak reviews. I sent xeroxes of some of the Audio Magazine Nak reviews to Wouter in the mail. (I don't have a scanner, so that was the only way I could get them to him.) I'll be glad to go through the 80's issues of all three mags and give dates for the various Nak reviews. If I could, I'd pdf all of this stuff to the site, but, alas, I am not equipped to do so. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From winfried.schoepf at unisys.co.at Sun Oct 31 18:30:55 1999 From: winfried.schoepf at unisys.co.at (Winfried Schoepf) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:30:55 +0100 Subject: AW: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 Message-ID: <01BF23CE.27630860@AT-VIE-SCHOEPFW.mk.unisys.com> Hi NAK fans, I offer a NEAL Ferrograph 302 for sale. With original owners and service manual. It need bias adjustment because it records different levels between the channels but with the service manual should be no problem. Mechanical and looks are 1a. Interested ? best regards Winfried (now 680ZX owner and fan) -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Carlos [SMTP:copytec at coqui.net] Gesendet am: Sonntag, 31. Oktober 1999 01:16 An: naktalk at naks.com Betreff: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 Very interesting proposal, Howie. The Aiwa 6900 MK II was a very, very nice deck and their top of the line during the late 70's. What about the Marantz SD 9000 and the late Vector Research VCX 800 ? Also, we have the Neal Ferrograph 302, Eumig Metropolitan CCD, Bang & Olufsen 8000 and the Tandberg TD 440 A. The Teac C-1 was a workhorse too. And perhaps the Pioneer CT F1250 qualifies in this list. I vote to make a " Cassette Deck Hall of Fame " where we can vote for a definitive list of wonderful machines. Best to all, The tape man ----- Original Message ----- From: Howie Jang To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > Hello, > > I think it is going to be much exciting to compare the > best cassette (recording and playing) deck among > Nakamichi, Tandberg, Revox or Studer.(Sony ES and Teac > 8030S might also be very good choice?) > > Has anyone done this kind comparison and like to share > with us? I personally own a 700ZXE but in Stephen > Sank shop for maintenance and also just bought an all > 10 Tandberg 3004(not 3014 or 3014a) that one of the > stereo magazines claimed superior recordings than the > Nakamichi Dragon??? I will try to do this comparison > using my rust ear after my 700ZXE went back from > Stephen. But, let me know if any amateur like to do > this and also lived in San Francisco Bay area.(I can > bring my 700ZXE, CR-7A and 3004.) It's very exciting > to see the best commercial cassette deck among: > > Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL(ZXE), ZX9, CR-7A > Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004 > Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 > Sony: 959ES, 909ES > Teac: 8030S > Pioneer: CTS830S > Do I miss any? > > Thanks, > -Howie > > --- chua jeffrey wrote: > > Hi Steven > > > > You expert advice is needed. > > > > I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 or > > ZX-9. I heard from a > > friend who owned both before that they were very > > good decks. I personally > > own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was bought > > new while the 1000-ZXL > > was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as the > > 1000-ZXL needs servicing > > and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent to > > set up their service > > dept. > > > > I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the > > performance of both decks. In > > your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon or > > the 1000-ZXL? I would > > certainly want to get the set running as soon as > > possible to hear and feel > > the sonic difference. > > > > Best Regards > > Jeffrey > > > > > > >From: Stephen Sank2 > > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > > >To: naktalk at naks.com > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > > > > > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to the > > ZX-7, other than the > > >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record > > azimuth adjust cable, so > > >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct drive > > dual capstans, BTW, > > >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually > > have larger flywheels & > > >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 > > percent, although I > > >believe this to be the only superiority in the > > ZX-9. > > > > > >Website: > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > > Champlain > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / > > 7611 Menaul Boulevard > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f > > performance would compare to > > > > these two decks. > > > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 is > > belt drive dual capstan & > > > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & has > > much lower wow/flutter. > > > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my bench, > > versus 0.025 percent > > >for > > > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > > > > > >Website: > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / > > Champlain > > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner > > / 7611 Menaul > > >Boulevard > > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> Hi! > > > > >> I´m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe > > both:-)) > > > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make my > > choice much easier? > > > > >> Which one is better? > > > > >> What are the main differences? > > > > >> > > > > >> Thanks > > > > >> > > > > >> and greetings from Austria > > > > >> > > > > >> Wolfgang > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > ======== > > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > >resource. > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > > > ______________________________________________________ > > Get Your Private, Free Email at > > http://www.hotmail.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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If you take your Nak to a non Nak decks experienced technician, prepare yourself for the worst nightmare ! Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Sank To: ; chua jeffrey Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 3:23 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > Don't mean to disparage a servicer I know nothing of, but I can't say I > would recommend trusting a 1000ZXL to a servicer who is only just > setting up..., ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sun Oct 31 19:55:30 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:55:30 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 References: <381B8C20.7992C912@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <007e01bf23d1$81685a60$b72f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Sank2 To: Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 7:24 PM Subject: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 BTW, from this tech/engineer/audiophile's point of > view, some of the decks you guys mention are total pieces of crap! > (e.g., B&O 9000/8000, Teac Z7000, Sony anything, Pioneer anything, etc.) > Just trying to keep this list on track. > Ha, ha, ha !!! There goes Mr. Sank ! Oh, come on Stephen, don't be so hard on other people's decks ! Now seriously, the main contribution of Nakamichi I feel is very important, is the advancement of the cassette deck recording technology. They were so ahead of its time that its is simply amazing. BUT, sonically speaking, I have heard decks that weren't so succesful marketing wise but the sound and technology employed rivals any other Nak deck. One thing that you can't deny is how much easier is to service an european deck than a japanese deck. It takes only half time to take apart a whole 710 than a 700 ZXL, for example ! BUT, I have to agree with you that Nakamichi still the king in the domestic cassette recording, no matter if I have other favorites ... Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hjang2 at yahoo.com Sun Oct 31 18:59:54 1999 From: hjang2 at yahoo.com (Howie Jang) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 09:59:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Cassette Deck Hall for voting the best cassette deck Message-ID: <19991031175954.20106.rocketmail@web116.yahoomail.com> Hello everyone, I think Carlos make a good suggestion, so I will change the Subject to "Cassette Deck Hall for voting the best cassette deck". I got quite a few response about the best cassette deck and here is the revised listing: Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL, 700ZXE, ZX9, ZX7, CR-7A, BX-300, RX-505 Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004, 440A Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 Sony: TC-K7ES, TC-KA3ES, TC-K959ES, TC-K909ES Teac: 8030S, C1, Z7000, Z5000 Pioneer: CT-S830S, CT-F1250, CT-95, CT-93 Aiwa: 6900MKII Denon: DRM24HX Kenwood: KX9050S B&O: 9000, 8000 Onkyo: TA2090 Marantz: SD9000 H/K: 300 Vector Research VCX 800 Neal Ferrograph 302 Eumig Metropolitan CCD Bang & Olufsen 8000 (please just specify your cassette deck in the voting if I still miss your wonderful cassette deck!) A. The Quota Table: Please select only 5 cassette decks from the following 8 area and also tell me the order sequence(which is very important): I feel the sonic is the most important part, so I give recording and playback 25 quota each and the rest from 5 to 10.(Hope this is correct and suitable.) Area quota winner's quota from 1st to last =============== ===== ================================ 1. Recording - 25 (25,24,23,22,21,20,19,18,17,...) 2. Playback - 25 (25,24,23,22,21,20,19,18,17,...) 3. Transport - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) 4. Electronics - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) 5. Function - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) 6. Quality - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) 7. Easy use - 5 (5,4,3,2,1) 8. Easy maintain - 5 (5,4,3,2,1) ===================== Total: 100 B. How to Calculate the winner: We assign 25 quota in area 1 - 2 for the 1st winner. 10 quota in area 3 - 6 for the 1st winner. 5 quota in area 7 - 8 for the 1st winner. We calculate the quota from 2nd to the last based on the following rules. We decrease 1 quota based on 1-3 points difference. 2 quota based on 4-6 points difference. 3 quota based on 7-9 points difference. C. For example: In area 1(Recording) if I give my list as: 1.Revox215, 2.700ZXE, 3.CR-7A, 4.3014A, 5.Z7000. So, Revox win 5 points, 700ZXE win 4 points, CR-7A win 3 points, 3014A win 2 ponits, Z7000 win 1 point. I will found the following after I collect and calculate all of the voting: Revox215: 99 points 700ZXL: 97 points 1000ZXL: 91 points dragon: 90 ponits 3014A: 90 points 700ZXE: 89 .. 3004: 85 .. Z7000: 82 .. ZX9: 80 .. ZX7: 75 .. TC-K7ES: 73 .. Based on B.(How to Calculate the winner:) and we will find the quota in area 1 as the following: 25 quota to Revox215,(since it's the 1st winner.) 24 .. to 700ZXL,(2 points lower, decrease 1 quota) 22 .. to 1000ZXL,(not 23 since the gap is 6 points) 21 .. to dragon and 3014A(since they got tie), 20 .. to 700ZXE, 18 .. to 3004,(not 19 since the gap is 4 ponits) 17 .. to Z7000, 16 .. to ZX9, 14 .. to ZX7.(not 15 since the gap is 5 points) 13 .. to TC-K7ES .... I think it's better to assign a proper quota to reflect the gap difference(not just a flat 25,24,23,22,21,20,19... sequence number for its quota.) D. Where to send your voting: hjang2 at yahoo.com E. The final winner: I will collect and calculate all of the quota in all 8 area for each cassette deck and post the final number(quota) to all of you who vote for the best cassette deck in Cassette Deck Hall . I hope the above method is very clear and sounding. So, remember to vote 5 cassette deck by order sequence in all 8 area and email me(hjang2 at yahoo.com). Let's start to vote for the best cassette if all of us agree the above rule. It's so exciting to see the best cassette deck, so do not forget to vote your dreaming cassette deck and share your expierence. GO VOTE!!! Thanks, -Howie --- Carlos wrote: > Very interesting proposal, Howie. The Aiwa 6900 MK > II was a very, very nice > deck and their top of the line during the late 70's. > What about the Marantz SD 9000 and the late Vector > Research VCX 800 ? Also, > we have the Neal Ferrograph 302, Eumig Metropolitan > CCD, Bang & Olufsen 8000 > and the Tandberg TD 440 A. The Teac C-1 was a > workhorse too. And perhaps the > Pioneer CT F1250 qualifies in this list. > > I vote to make a " Cassette Deck Hall of Fame " > where we can vote for a > definitive list of wonderful machines. > > Best to all, > > The tape man > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Howie Jang > To: > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 3:36 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I think it is going to be much exciting to compare > the > > best cassette (recording and playing) deck among > > Nakamichi, Tandberg, Revox or Studer.(Sony ES and > Teac > > 8030S might also be very good choice?) > > > > Has anyone done this kind comparison and like to > share > > with us? I personally own a 700ZXE but in Stephen > > Sank shop for maintenance and also just bought an > all > > 10 Tandberg 3004(not 3014 or 3014a) that one of > the > > stereo magazines claimed superior recordings than > the > > Nakamichi Dragon??? I will try to do this > comparison > > using my rust ear after my 700ZXE went back from > > Stephen. But, let me know if any amateur like to > do > > this and also lived in San Francisco Bay area.(I > can > > bring my 700ZXE, CR-7A and 3004.) It's very > exciting > > to see the best commercial cassette deck among: > > > > Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL(ZXE), ZX9, > CR-7A > > Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004 > > Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 > > Sony: 959ES, 909ES > > Teac: 8030S > > Pioneer: CTS830S > > Do I miss any? > > > > Thanks, > > -Howie > > > > --- chua jeffrey wrote: > > > Hi Steven > > > > > > You expert advice is needed. > > > > > > I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 > or > > > ZX-9. I heard from a > > > friend who owned both before that they were very > > > good decks. I personally > > > own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was > bought > > > new while the 1000-ZXL > > > was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as > the > > > 1000-ZXL needs servicing > > > and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent > to > > > set up their service > > > dept. > > > > > > I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the > > > performance of both decks. In > > > your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon > or > > > the 1000-ZXL? I would > > > certainly want to get the set running as soon as > > > possible to hear and feel > > > the sonic difference. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Jeffrey > > > > > > > > > >From: Stephen Sank2 > > > > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > > > >To: naktalk at naks.com > > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > > > > > > > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to > the > > > ZX-7, other than the > > > >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record > > > azimuth adjust cable, so > > > >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct > drive > > > dual capstans, BTW, > > > >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually > > > have larger flywheels & > > > >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 > > > percent, although I > > > >believe this to be the only superiority in the > > > ZX-9. > > > > > > > >Website: > > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > / > > > Champlain > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner > / > > > 7611 Menaul Boulevard > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f > > > performance would compare to > > > > > these two decks. > > > > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 > is > > > belt drive dual capstan & > > > > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & > has > > > much lower wow/flutter. > > > > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my > bench, > > > versus 0.025 percent > > > >for > > > > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > > > > > > > >Website: > > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > / > > > Champlain > > > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, > owner > > > / 7611 Menaul > > > >Boulevard > > > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] > / > > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi! > > > > > >> I�m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe > > > both:-)) > > > > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make > my > > > choice much easier? > > > > > >> Which one is better? > > > > > >> What are the main differences? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Thanks > > > > > >> > > > > > >> and greetings from Austria > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Wolfgang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > > ======== > > > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the > Unofficial > > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > >resource. > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > === message truncated === ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hjang2 at yahoo.com Sun Oct 31 19:29:25 1999 From: hjang2 at yahoo.com (Howie Jang) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 10:29:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 Message-ID: <19991031182925.9889.rocketmail@web112.yahoomail.com> I think all of us can vote for their dreaming cassette deck and share the expierence. So, let's just go to "Cassette Deck Hall for voting the best cassette deck" subject and choose your best cassette deck. I will try to collect all of the data and post it here. GO VOTE!!! -Howie --- Carlos wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Sank2 > To: > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 7:24 PM > Subject: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 > > > BTW, from this tech/engineer/audiophile's point of > > view, some of the decks you guys mention are total > pieces of crap! > > (e.g., B&O 9000/8000, Teac Z7000, Sony anything, > Pioneer anything, etc.) > > Just trying to keep this list on track. > > > > Ha, ha, ha !!! There goes Mr. Sank ! Oh, come on > Stephen, don't be so hard > on other people's decks ! Now seriously, > the main contribution of Nakamichi I feel is very > important, is the > advancement of the cassette deck recording > technology. They were so ahead of > its time that its is simply amazing. BUT, sonically > speaking, I have heard > decks that weren't so succesful > marketing wise but the sound and technology employed > rivals any other Nak > deck. > > One thing that you can't deny is how much easier is > to service an european > deck than a japanese deck. It takes only half time > to take apart a whole 710 > than a 700 ZXL, for example ! BUT, I have to agree > with you that Nakamichi > still the king in the domestic cassette recording, > no matter if I have other > favorites ... > > Carlos > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hjang2 at yahoo.com Sun Oct 31 20:01:51 1999 From: hjang2 at yahoo.com (Howie Jang) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:01:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 Message-ID: <19991031190151.19179.rocketmail@web118.yahoomail.com> Joel, I just put Z7000 in the listing. GO VOTE!!! Thanks, -Howie --- Joel Eidbo wrote: > the teac Z7000 is quite the deck! what is the > pioneer cassette in your > list? i have never heard of it. dr. bo > > ---------- > > From: Howie Jang > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Cc: hjang2 at yahoo.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > Date: Saturday, October 30, 1999 3:36 PM > > > > > > Hello, > > > > I think it is going to be much exciting to compare > the > > best cassette (recording and playing) deck among > > Nakamichi, Tandberg, Revox or Studer.(Sony ES and > Teac > > 8030S might also be very good choice?) > > > > Has anyone done this kind comparison and like to > share > > with us? I personally own a 700ZXE but in Stephen > > Sank shop for maintenance and also just bought an > all > > 10 Tandberg 3004(not 3014 or 3014a) that one of > the > > stereo magazines claimed superior recordings than > the > > Nakamichi Dragon??? I will try to do this > comparison > > using my rust ear after my 700ZXE went back from > > Stephen. But, let me know if any amateur like to > do > > this and also lived in San Francisco Bay area.(I > can > > bring my 700ZXE, CR-7A and 3004.) It's very > exciting > > to see the best commercial cassette deck among: > > > > Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL(ZXE), ZX9, > CR-7A > > Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004 > > Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 > > Sony: 959ES, 909ES > > Teac: 8030S > > Pioneer: CTS830S > > Do I miss any? > > > > Thanks, > > -Howie > > > > --- chua jeffrey wrote: > > > Hi Steven > > > > > > You expert advice is needed. > > > > > > I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 > or > > > ZX-9. I heard from a > > > friend who owned both before that they were very > > > good decks. I personally > > > own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was > bought > > > new while the 1000-ZXL > > > was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as > the > > > 1000-ZXL needs servicing > > > and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent > to > > > set up their service > > > dept. > > > > > > I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the > > > performance of both decks. In > > > your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon > or > > > the 1000-ZXL? I would > > > certainly want to get the set running as soon as > > > possible to hear and feel > > > the sonic difference. > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Jeffrey > > > > > > > > > >From: Stephen Sank2 > > > > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > > > >To: naktalk at naks.com > > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > > > > > > > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to > the > > > ZX-7, other than the > > > >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record > > > azimuth adjust cable, so > > > >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct > drive > > > dual capstans, BTW, > > > >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually > > > have larger flywheels & > > > >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 > > > percent, although I > > > >believe this to be the only superiority in the > > > ZX-9. > > > > > > > >Website: > > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > / > > > Champlain > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner > / > > > 7611 Menaul Boulevard > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f > > > performance would compare to > > > > > these two decks. > > > > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 > is > > > belt drive dual capstan & > > > > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & > has > > > much lower wow/flutter. > > > > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my > bench, > > > versus 0.025 percent > > > >for > > > > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > > > > > > > >Website: > > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > / > > > Champlain > > > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, > owner > > > / 7611 Menaul > > > >Boulevard > > > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] > / > > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Hi! > > > > > >> I�m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe > > > both:-)) > > > > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make > my > > > choice much easier? > > > > > >> Which one is better? > > > > > >> What are the main differences? > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Thanks > > > > > >> > > > > > >> and greetings from Austria > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Wolfgang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > > > ======== > > > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the > Unofficial > > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > >resource. > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the > Unofficial > === message truncated === ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mmishra at siue.edu Sun Oct 31 20:30:17 1999 From: mmishra at siue.edu (Michael Mishra) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:30:17 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] DR8 and DR10 References: <000101bf2378$57750e00$b40861cb@oemcomputer> Message-ID: <381C98C8.C48933CE@siue.edu> Does anyone have any experience of the new DR8 and DR10 models? I know that generally the newer Naks have not been as favourably received as the old classics, but I'm wondering how the DR10 compares with, say, the TEAC 8030S. Thanks Michael ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Sun Oct 31 17:07:44 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:07:44 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak Decks reviewed.... References: Message-ID: <381C6950.1599@bestweb.net> Kenny and other Nakfans, I went through my Stereo Review, High Fidelity, and earlier Audio magazines and have compiled a pretty comprehensive list of the Nak reviews that appeared in those three publications over the years: Audio: (added to the ones you already included) August, '79--582 June, '81--1000ZXL January, '82--700ZXL August, '82--NR-200 Dolby C NR Processor September, '82--1000ZXL Gold Limited (rather than the standard 1000ZXL) High Fidelity: February, '82--LX-3 February, '83--BX-1 April, '83--Dragon February, '84--RX-202 August, '84--RX-505 February, '85--BX-300 June, '86--CR-7A February, '88--CR-3A Stereo Review: April, '82--LX-5 April, '83--Dragon March, '84--RX-505 December, '84--BX-300 March, '86--Comparison of CR-7A, Yamaha K-1020, and TEAC V-750 October, '86--CR-5A All three of these periodicals also contain many advertisements for the classic Naks of the 70's and 80's. In a lot of cases these ads contain brochure quality pics of these units. They are defintely worth a look. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sun Oct 31 22:23:54 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:23:54 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 References: <19991031182925.9889.rocketmail@web112.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <005101bf23e6$3c965a80$b2302ac4@coqui.net> My five nominees are: Nak Dragon Nak 700 : because it were one of the original's ... Nak 700 ZXl Nak 1000 ZXL Revox B 215 ----- Original Message ----- From: Howie Jang To: Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 > > I think all of us can vote for their dreaming cassette > deck and share the expierence. So, let's just go to > "Cassette Deck Hall for voting the best cassette deck" > subject and choose your best cassette deck. I will > try to collect all of the data and post it here. > > GO VOTE!!! > > -Howie > > --- Carlos wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Stephen Sank2 > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 7:24 PM > > Subject: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 > > > > > > BTW, from this tech/engineer/audiophile's point of > > > view, some of the decks you guys mention are total > > pieces of crap! > > > (e.g., B&O 9000/8000, Teac Z7000, Sony anything, > > Pioneer anything, etc.) > > > Just trying to keep this list on track. > > > > > > > Ha, ha, ha !!! There goes Mr. Sank ! Oh, come on > > Stephen, don't be so hard > > on other people's decks ! Now seriously, > > the main contribution of Nakamichi I feel is very > > important, is the > > advancement of the cassette deck recording > > technology. They were so ahead of > > its time that its is simply amazing. BUT, sonically > > speaking, I have heard > > decks that weren't so succesful > > marketing wise but the sound and technology employed > > rivals any other Nak > > deck. > > > > One thing that you can't deny is how much easier is > > to service an european > > deck than a japanese deck. It takes only half time > > to take apart a whole 710 > > than a 700 ZXL, for example ! BUT, I have to agree > > with you that Nakamichi > > still the king in the domestic cassette recording, > > no matter if I have other > > favorites ... > > > > Carlos > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Oct 31 22:13:10 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:13:10 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Vote! Vote! Vote! And a little something else .... In-Reply-To: <005101bf23e6$3c965a80$b2302ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <000301bf23e4$bc634040$b250883e@a4s1s2> Umm .... Chaps! (and Aunt Joan) I might have missed something here but, given that this is the Nak Club, doesn't that mean there will be a pre-disposition for us to Vote Nak for President and have a mass "scatoma" (I think that's how it's spelt) for any other "worthy" candidates?!!! I mean, it's not exactly a fair fight ... is it?! (It'll be fun tho'!) Somewhere I have some Nak reviews from a collection of UK hi fi magazines. I'll do some digging (mostly in the roof, where the older magazines are stored!) and publish a list of what I have available. Unfortunately, I to do not have the resources to digitise them for transmitting over the Internet - I'm afraid they're still in good old analogue format!!! (Funny how we love digital when it comes to communications and hate it when it's hi fi ... just a thought for this week's meditation.) #}:¬#[)# (self portrait) Graham -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com] On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: 31 October 1999 21:24 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 My five nominees are: Nak Dragon Nak 700 : because it were one of the original's ... Nak 700 ZXl Nak 1000 ZXL Revox B 215 ----- Original Message ----- From: Howie Jang To: Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 > > I think all of us can vote for their dreaming cassette > deck and share the expierence. So, let's just go to > "Cassette Deck Hall for voting the best cassette deck" > subject and choose your best cassette deck. I will > try to collect all of the data and post it here. > > GO VOTE!!! > > -Howie > > --- Carlos wrote: > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Stephen Sank2 > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 7:24 PM > > Subject: [naktalk] re:ZX-7 vs ZX-9 > > > > > > BTW, from this tech/engineer/audiophile's point of > > > view, some of the decks you guys mention are total > > pieces of crap! > > > (e.g., B&O 9000/8000, Teac Z7000, Sony anything, > > Pioneer anything, etc.) > > > Just trying to keep this list on track. > > > > > > > Ha, ha, ha !!! There goes Mr. Sank ! Oh, come on > > Stephen, don't be so hard > > on other people's decks ! Now seriously, > > the main contribution of Nakamichi I feel is very > > important, is the > > advancement of the cassette deck recording > > technology. They were so ahead of > > its time that its is simply amazing. BUT, sonically > > speaking, I have heard > > decks that weren't so succesful > > marketing wise but the sound and technology employed > > rivals any other Nak > > deck. > > > > One thing that you can't deny is how much easier is > > to service an european > > deck than a japanese deck. It takes only half time > > to take apart a whole 710 > > than a 700 ZXL, for example ! BUT, I have to agree > > with you that Nakamichi > > still the king in the domestic cassette recording, > > no matter if I have other > > favorites ... > > > > Carlos > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From peterche at asiaonline.net Thu Oct 28 16:26:40 1999 From: peterche at asiaonline.net (Cathy & Pete) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:26:40 +0800 Subject: [naktalk] Nak 680 Message-ID: <199911200140.JAA16568@mx2.asiaonline.net> hi there can any one please tell me what a "blackbox" is. i have a dragon best regards ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\1999\1999-11.txt ************************************************************************ From Scalnajim at aol.com Mon Nov 1 00:14:30 1999 From: Scalnajim at aol.com (Scalnajim at aol.com) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 18:14:30 EST Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 Message-ID: <0.aa11074f.254e2756@aol.com> I agree the 700zxe/zxl is the best looking nakamichi. scott al-najim ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Nov 1 01:22:21 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:22:21 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Vote! Vote! Vote! And a little something else .... References: <000301bf23e4$bc634040$b250883e@a4s1s2> Message-ID: <002201bf23ff$2cc1e340$e52f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Nelson To: Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 4:13 PM Subject: [naktalk] Vote! Vote! Vote! And a little something else .... > Umm .... Chaps! (and Aunt Joan) > > I might have missed something here but, given that this is the Nak Club, > doesn't that mean there will be a pre-disposition for us to Vote Nak for > President and have a mass "scatoma" (I think that's how it's spelt) for any > other "worthy" candidates?!!! I mean, it's not exactly a fair fight ... is > it?! (It'll be fun tho'!) Graham is right on the money, but, it'll be fun anyway ! Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Nov 1 01:25:04 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:25:04 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak Decks reviewed.... References: <381C6950.1599@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <003301bf23ff$8b4d6100$e52f2ac4@coqui.net> Very good job, Tom. I remember that 1000 ZXL review. Pretty good pictures including the inside electronics ! Congratulations ! Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Bergman To: Cc: Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 11:07 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Nak Decks reviewed.... > Kenny and other Nakfans, > > I went through my Stereo Review, High Fidelity, and earlier > Audio magazines and have compiled a pretty comprehensive list of the Nak > reviews that appeared in those three publications over the years: > > Audio: (added to the ones you already included) > > August, '79--582 > June, '81--1000ZXL > January, '82--700ZXL > August, '82--NR-200 Dolby C NR Processor > September, '82--1000ZXL Gold Limited (rather than the standard 1000ZXL) > > High Fidelity: > > February, '82--LX-3 > February, '83--BX-1 > April, '83--Dragon > February, '84--RX-202 > August, '84--RX-505 > February, '85--BX-300 > June, '86--CR-7A > February, '88--CR-3A > > Stereo Review: > > April, '82--LX-5 > April, '83--Dragon > March, '84--RX-505 > December, '84--BX-300 > March, '86--Comparison of CR-7A, Yamaha K-1020, and TEAC V-750 > October, '86--CR-5A > > All three of these periodicals also contain many advertisements for > the classic Naks of the 70's and 80's. In a lot of cases these ads > contain brochure quality pics of these units. They are defintely worth > a look. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mraven at telekabel.nl Mon Nov 1 00:36:29 1999 From: mraven at telekabel.nl (Maurits) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 00:36:29 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 References: <19991030130511.21612.qmail@hotmail.com> <381BFC85.61046102@emall-online.com> <007001bf23d0$3fa7e240$b72f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <008101bf23f8$c1af0e80$5b8286c2@telekabel.nl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos To: Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > I have to second Stephen, here. Even the people at Torrance are not good as > expected, at least according to my past experiences. If you take your Nak to > a non Nak decks experienced technician, prepare yourself for the worst > nightmare ! A good technican can repair anything. Difference between a good and a bad one is the diagnostic time depends on experience. Using the proper tools, manuals and skills they can repaired easely bij a good technican. There is no witchcraft involved in Naks. Maurits ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hjang2 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 1 00:56:18 1999 From: hjang2 at yahoo.com (Howie Jang) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:56:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] Vote! Vote! Vote! And a little something else .... Message-ID: <19991031235618.18052.rocketmail@web124.yahoomail.com> Looks like I hear some negative voice from Graham.(I feel very sorry about this.) Actually, I hear some discussions reguard ZX7/9, I think why we just made a vote for the best cassette deck here. I will not use this board to do the vote anymore. But, I am happy to bring my equipment to any amateur also lived in Bay area to share and enjoy the fun of dup.(in my original ZX7/ZX9 email). Best Reguard, -Howie --- Carlos wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Graham Nelson > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 4:13 PM > Subject: [naktalk] Vote! Vote! Vote! And a little > something else .... > > > > Umm .... Chaps! (and Aunt Joan) > > > > I might have missed something here but, given that > this is the Nak Club, > > doesn't that mean there will be a pre-disposition > for us to Vote Nak for > > President and have a mass "scatoma" (I think > that's how it's spelt) for > any > > other "worthy" candidates?!!! I mean, it's not > exactly a fair fight ... > is > > it?! (It'll be fun tho'!) > > Graham is right on the money, but, it'll be fun > anyway ! > > Carlos > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Mon Nov 1 01:11:08 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:11:08 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] DR8 and DR10 References: <000101bf2378$57750e00$b40861cb@oemcomputer> <381C98C8.C48933CE@siue.edu> Message-ID: <381CDA9C.FC6DDE56@emall-online.com> I have both decks here & have had a quick look over them. The DR-10 is a quite identical clone of the DR-1, which, of course, means it's every bit as good as a CR-3 or any later belt drive three head. The DR-8, unfortunately, is not quite a DR-3. It appears to be the same transport & electronics, but the rec/pb head is a crappy looking, half-length thing, like you see in Sony & other such low-brow stuff. Still appears to be a Sendust head, but the half-length means there isn't as much laminate core material, so it is bound to saturate sooner & not sound as good. I am somewhat appalled. Oh well. At least the DR-10 is an authentic Nak. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer Michael Mishra wrote: > > Does anyone have any experience of the new DR8 and DR10 models? I know that > generally the newer Naks have not been as favourably received as the old > classics, but I'm wondering how the DR10 compares with, say, the TEAC 8030S. > > Thanks > > Michael > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Mon Nov 1 01:17:32 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:17:32 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 References: <19991030130511.21612.qmail@hotmail.com> <381BFC85.61046102@emall-online.com> <007001bf23d0$3fa7e240$b72f2ac4@coqui.net> <008101bf23f8$c1af0e80$5b8286c2@telekabel.nl> Message-ID: <381CDC1C.91D9FCAD@emall-online.com> I agree a truly talented(which is not the same as "educated" or "trained") tech can repair anything, HOWEVER, there are absolutely, positively, a lot of issues with Naks(& others) that are only learned through experience & exposure(e.g., that 2-head Naks are referenced to -6dBV & 3-head Naks to 0dBV). ALSO, one can only properly calibrate/align a Nak with NAK test tapes & jigs. I hate to see any Nak improperly serviced, so, whoever you go to, please make sure they are properly equipped & know what the heck they are doing. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer Maurits wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carlos > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 7:46 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > > I have to second Stephen, here. Even the people at Torrance are not > good as > > expected, at least according to my past experiences. If you take > your Nak to > > a non Nak decks experienced technician, prepare yourself for the > worst > > nightmare ! > > A good technican can repair anything. Difference between a good and a > bad one is the diagnostic time depends on experience. > Using the proper tools, manuals and skills they can repaired easely > bij a good technican. > There is no witchcraft involved in Naks. > > Maurits > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Tzzydzzy at aol.com Mon Nov 1 04:44:30 1999 From: Tzzydzzy at aol.com (Tzzydzzy at aol.com) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:44:30 EST Subject: [naktalk] New Naks Message-ID: <0.48703f46.254e669e@aol.com> The DR 1 had a variable output level control but most importantly variable playback head azimuth alignment. This lets you fine tune any pre recorded tape to the original azimuth of the deck on which it was made. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Mon Nov 1 06:26:05 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 21:26:05 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Nak DR-10 review.... Message-ID: Michael & other Nakkers - There is a review of the Nak DR-10 in the Nov '99 issue of HI-Fi Choice (UK publ). Have a look on my website for a summary of that review........ http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper/nakdr10review.html A good friend of mine here in Madison, Wisconsin, has experienced prblems with the DR-10 responding favorably to analog metal tape bias adjustment. He's even had Nak of America fine-tune the deck to his specification, but without success. Nakamichi returned his purchase monies, with apologies. Beware of this latest generation of Nak decks, they don't seem to stack up to the classic gear of the 1980's. Mr Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:30:17 -0500 From: Michael Mishra Subject: [naktalk] DR8 and DR10 Does anyone have any experience of the new DR8 and DR10 models? I know that generally the newer Naks have not been as favourably received as the old classics, but I'm wondering how the DR10 compares with, say, the TEAC 8030S. Thanks Michael Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:07:44 +0000 From: Tom Bergman Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Nak Decks reviewed.... Kenny and other Nakfans, I went through my Stereo Review, High Fidelity, and earlier Audio magazines and have compiled a pretty comprehensive list of the Nak reviews that appeared in those three publications over the years: Audio: (added to the ones you already included) August, '79--582 June, '81--1000ZXL January, '82--700ZXL August, '82--NR-200 Dolby C NR Processor September, '82--1000ZXL Gold Limited (rather than the standard 1000ZXL) High Fidelity: February, '82--LX-3 February, '83--BX-1 April, '83--Dragon February, '84--RX-202 August, '84--RX-505 February, '85--BX-300 June, '86--CR-7A February, '88--CR-3A Stereo Review: April, '82--LX-5 April, '83--Dragon March, '84--RX-505 December, '84--BX-300 March, '86--Comparison of CR-7A, Yamaha K-1020, and TEAC V-750 October, '86--CR-5A All three of these periodicals also contain many advertisements for the classic Naks of the 70's and 80's. In a lot of cases these ads contain brochure quality pics of these units. They are defintely worth a look. Tom ------------------------------ End of naktalk-digest V1 #94 ****************************** Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Nov 1 15:19:13 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:19:13 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 References: <19991030130511.21612.qmail@hotmail.com> <381BFC85.61046102@emall-online.com> <007001bf23d0$3fa7e240$b72f2ac4@coqui.net> <008101bf23f8$c1af0e80$5b8286c2@telekabel.nl> Message-ID: <002701bf2474$1337e620$652f2ac4@coqui.net> Sorry Maurits, but it is not so. I took one deck to a "good technician" with the manual to fix a Revox B-215. Results: after 1 month in the shop I send the machine to Nashville and Revox repaired her in 2 days. Experience is everything, as you say, plus the technician is gonna charge you with his learning curve. What ? 3 or 4 learning hours extra at your expense ? I have seen this so many times that I prefer to go the extra mile and keep servicing my machines with an experienced tech. Every tech has his specialty. For example, Mr. Sank not only fix your machine, but he predicts what could be broken next and change the part before it brokes, plus, sometimes he even modifies your machine surpassing the Nakamichi standards. Not only him, but every experienced person dealing with this kind of machines can save you time, money and headaches. Later on I will tell you a service story on a 1000 ZXL ... Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Maurits To: Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Carlos > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 7:46 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > > > I have to second Stephen, here. Even the people at Torrance are not > good as > > expected, at least according to my past experiences. If you take > your Nak to > > a non Nak decks experienced technician, prepare yourself for the > worst > > nightmare ! > > A good technican can repair anything. Difference between a good and a > bad one is the diagnostic time depends on experience. > Using the proper tools, manuals and skills they can repaired easely > bij a good technican. > There is no witchcraft involved in Naks. > > > Maurits > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Mon Nov 1 17:20:27 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 16:20:27 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Nak Reviews References: <01BF23CE.27630860@AT-VIE-SCHOEPFW.mk.unisys.com> Message-ID: <381DBDCB.63FF@bestweb.net> Nakfans, I have discovered that the May, 1981 issue of Stereo Review contained a review of the 1000ZXL, so you can add that issue to the list I compiled yesterday. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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But if I replay it in the 680zx it's there. I don't think I'm imagining this. Anybody encountered anything like this? I've got other XLIIs recorded on other machines, and they play fine. Maybe I've just got two bad tapes? When I play these two problematic cassettes on any machine there is a noise that sounds like regular breathing on the blank tape. Not a huge problem, since I'm making these for someone else and they seem to play fine on my other deck. Jud Herrman -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Public key at http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~jherrman/ iQCVAwUBOB9Ti/hj30kBwGixAQGaDgQAlLTdI8gL1WtSxULCGlx2gcYBMYf2knRm zYwby94KfNKUYgYukkA7ylLs8yCxtt8m6RVFTwq2eyQMjYVI3JTyEZaVRseXtZ9M 7JIhyJdANqlega970Vd1XJOgud3uAJuJu3iQ1wV0meNIFq98+qctAzCKkYEQlTzQ ws+HIU4LTJE= =x5Wk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From GeoffWard at nvision1.com Tue Nov 2 23:05:54 1999 From: GeoffWard at nvision1.com (Geoff Ward) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 14:05:54 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Noise using Maxell tape Message-ID: <329AA4E7412ED111B30D00A024CDD94780F774@yosemite-E0.foothill.net> I just read Jud's comments and have had similar experiences with Maxell tapes on my BX-150. However I have generally had the trouble in both channels and put it down to bias and/or eq setup errors as compared to TDK SA tape. I swear by TDK SA and in fact have made some incredible recordings using SAX. In looking at comments made on Naktalk it seems Nak's are optimized for TDK formulations (as are most cassette decks regardless of brand). Not to knock Maxell or any brand of tape but it seems to me if the manufacturer of the deck uses "brand SA" for alignment purposes then "brand SA" should give the best performance in practice. Geoff Ward Technical Support Engineer NVision, Inc. geoffward at nvision1.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jannissu at worldonline.nl Thu Nov 4 10:45:51 1999 From: jannissu at worldonline.nl (Jannis) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:45:51 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] SOS Message-ID: <000e01bf26a9$640f0e20$c7e7f1c3@jannissu> Hi everybody, Being Naksnuts I've followed with great interest your discussions for ages. But now I have two problems: a) the mechanism of my 582 takes ages to come up and meet the tape when I press play. b) My bx 300 repeatedly stops pulling the tape and as a result it stops playing. Please advise. Jannis -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Thu Nov 4 11:40:51 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 12:40:51 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] SOS References: <000e01bf26a9$640f0e20$c7e7f1c3@jannissu> Message-ID: <013101bf26b1$12013880$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Hi Jannis, AS for bx300 problem: >b) My bx 300 repeatedly stops pulling the tape and as a result it stops playing. It's famous idler problem. You can look up for Stephen Sank message saying how to clean iddler rubber ring without going to repair shop and replacing it or upgrading to gear iddler. I can tell you from my experience - it really works and I fixed 5 machines same way. Michael. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Thu Nov 4 20:02:18 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 12:02:18 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] SOS References: <000e01bf26a9$640f0e20$c7e7f1c3@jannissu> Message-ID: <3821D83A.BAC81B17@emall-online.com> Reel drive idler cleaning, as my friend in the Ukraine has told you, will keep your BX300 going nicely. Your 582 simply needs replacement of the mechanism mode control drive belt, which is a 5.0 inch square cut belt that need not be specifically Nakamichi. The belt is located between the two main transport chassis plates, behind the right hand end of the cassette compartment, & is easily changeable without disassembly, although you will have an easier time if you remove the bottom cover of the unit. Also, check to see that both pinch roller arms pivot up & down freely(with spring tension, of course). If either one is sluggish or binding, seek professional Nak service. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > Jannis wrote: > > Hi everybody, > > Being Naksnuts I've followed with great interest your discussions for > ages. But now I have two problems: > > a) the mechanism of my 582 takes ages to come up and meet the tape > when I press play. > > b) My bx 300 repeatedly stops pulling the tape and as a result it > stops playing. > > Please advise. > > Jannis ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Sat Nov 6 02:54:11 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 03:54:11 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Two head nak decks References: <000e01bf26a9$640f0e20$c7e7f1c3@jannissu> <3821D83A.BAC81B17@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <000201bf27fa$a7a3cb60$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Hi Naklovers, I got a question. Which of two-headed Nak desck considered to be the best one? I have LX-3, different BXes and Sansui 700 which is almost Nak 500. But I never had an expirience with 480 models or MR-2, DR-3 and all others two headed Naks. As for now I love LX-3 more than BXes. Is there any other views? Michael Kiev, Ukraine ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Sat Nov 6 10:19:44 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 09:19:44 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Two head nak decks References: <000e01bf26a9$640f0e20$c7e7f1c3@jannissu> <3821D83A.BAC81B17@emall-online.com> <000201bf27fa$a7a3cb60$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <3823F2B0.70AF@bestweb.net> Michael, I don't think your'e going to do much better than the LX-3. I have one, and I have yet to find one tht sounds better and is easier to use. I also have a 480, but I lke the 3 much better. The 580 might have more flexibility with its calibratiion capabilities, but I'd be surprised if it really sounds better than the 3. Also the 3 just LOOKS better and is ergonomically superior to most other Nak two heads. (Love that fader!) Also, it is built like a tank. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From kjneil at yahoo.com Sat Nov 6 15:27:05 1999 From: kjneil at yahoo.com (Keith Neil) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 06:27:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: [naktalk] dragon for sale in the UK Message-ID: <19991106142705.21542.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> I have a Dragon in very good condition that I'll entertain serious offers on. It is in excellent cosmetic and physical condition, with recent belt and rubber replacement (have reciepts), calibration and alignment, and a more recent adjustment to the servo motor to correct the 'skew' problem that some of these decks had from new (whereby they occasionaly would have problems in the reverse direction due to one capstan being slightly slower than it should). I have the manuals and the original double box, and the receipts for all work done. The work was done by an expert in Ottawa, Canada, prior to my relocation to Brighton, UK. Im reluctant to sell, but the high cost of housing here has me needing funds for a mortgage. I can send photos by email on request. Keith ===== ---------------------------- Keith Neil Scientific Software Designer Netgenics Inc. kneil at netgenics.com 1-888-861-9007 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bochar at epix.net Sat Nov 6 15:43:28 1999 From: bochar at epix.net (bob) Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 09:43:28 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Two head nak decks References: <000e01bf26a9$640f0e20$c7e7f1c3@jannissu> <3821D83A.BAC81B17@emall-online.com> <000201bf27fa$a7a3cb60$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <38243E90.A45DE70A@epix.net> You are in love with the right model. bob MVM wrote: > > Hi Naklovers, > > I got a question. Which of two-headed Nak desck considered to be > the best one? I have LX-3, different BXes and Sansui 700 which is > almost Nak 500. But I never had an expirience with 480 models or MR-2, > DR-3 and all others two headed Naks. > As for now I love LX-3 more than BXes. Is there any other views? > > Michael > Kiev, Ukraine > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From wheijke at xs4all.nl Sat Nov 6 19:58:06 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 19:58:06 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Two head nak decks References: <000e01bf26a9$640f0e20$c7e7f1c3@jannissu> <3821D83A.BAC81B17@emall-online.com> <000201bf27fa$a7a3cb60$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> <3823F2B0.70AF@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <38247A3E.D221C7B6@xs4all.nl> I totally agree with Tom, as usual! Personally I like the LX3/480/580 better then the 'new' 2 head decks like the BX/MR/DR series. They are build much better and have the 'classic' nak transport! The disadvantage the 480 has is it's mechanical transport buttons, the 580 definitely comes right after the LX3! Wouter Tom Bergman wrote: > Michael, > I don't think your'e going to do much better than the LX-3. > I have one, and I have yet to find one tht sounds better and is easier > to use. I also have a 480, but I lke the 3 much better. The 580 might > have more flexibility with its calibratiion capabilities, but I'd be > surprised if it really sounds better than the 3. Also the 3 just LOOKS > better and is ergonomically superior to most other Nak two heads. > (Love that fader!) Also, it is built like a tank. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From GgergM at aol.com Sat Nov 6 23:02:36 1999 From: GgergM at aol.com (GgergM at aol.com) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:02:36 EST Subject: [naktalk] Clock counters Message-ID: <0.91549799.2555ff7c@aol.com> Friends in flux: I have a non Nakamichi but otherwise a cassette deck question. Do the relatively inaccurate minute and second clock counters used on cassette decks work by by reading the relative motions of the two reel hubs? Bang and Olufsen decks used to work this way. In their decks, the motions of the two hubs were put into a microprocessor, converted into a mathematical ratio which told the the microprocessor how fast the tape was travelling, which was then converted into minutes and seconds of tape time. Is it done this way on Japanese decks, too? Hopefully somebody out there will know. Gregg Mitchell ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.lrun.com Sat Nov 6 23:29:00 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.lrun.com (David Drucker) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 17:29:00 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Clock counters References: <0.91549799.2555ff7c@aol.com> Message-ID: <009901bf28a6$52c83d40$5b3a5e18@stny.rr.com> It depends on the deck. Some "real-time" counters are nothing more than stop-watches. Others use the reel-hub calculation method. The Onkyo TA-2090 is an example of the latter type. DD (CR7A, Dragon, TA-2090) > Friends in flux: > > I have a non Nakamichi but otherwise a cassette deck question. Do the > relatively inaccurate minute and second clock counters used on cassette decks > work by by reading the relative motions of the two reel hubs? Bang and > Olufsen decks used to work this way. In their decks, the motions of the two > hubs were put into a microprocessor, converted into a mathematical ratio > which told the the microprocessor how fast the tape was travelling, which was > then converted into minutes and seconds of tape time. Is it done this way on > Japanese decks, too? Hopefully somebody out there will know. > > Gregg Mitchell > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Sun Nov 7 00:16:14 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:16:14 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Clock counters References: <0.91549799.2555ff7c@aol.com> <009901bf28a6$52c83d40$5b3a5e18@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: <000f01bf28ac$ed456fe0$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> ��: David Drucker ^ It depends on the deck. Some "real-time" counters are nothing more than ^ stop-watches. Others use the reel-hub calculation method. The Onkyo TA-2090 ^ is an example of the latter type. ^ DD (CR7A, Dragon, TA-2090) >From my expirience - old Sansui 570 deck, wich has Sankyo transport almost like in BX series - has simple electronic clock. Akai deck - they using two reel hub calculation, Denons as well, and many others. First, simple clock design was used in earlier models, somewhere in the begining of 80's. It was working mostly during playback and recording, but not during rewinding. Two reel hubs calculation method came out later, when small microprocessors became available. This design works full time. Michael Kiev, Ukraine ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Sun Nov 7 00:19:50 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 01:19:50 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 600 mk 2? Re: Two head nak decks References: <000e01bf26a9$640f0e20$c7e7f1c3@jannissu> <3821D83A.BAC81B17@emall-online.com> <000201bf27fa$a7a3cb60$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> <3823F2B0.70AF@bestweb.net> <38247A3E.D221C7B6@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <001501bf28ad$6df6b040$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Thanks everyone for confirming my opinion about LX-3. I have another piece of beauty coming soon, it's 600mk2. Please, tell me yours opinion about this extremely nice looking deck! Is it good sonicaly or it just a collector's piece? Michael Kiev, Ukraine ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From minervo at execpc.com Sun Nov 7 00:32:28 1999 From: minervo at execpc.com (Kirby Krause) Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 17:32:28 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] 600 mk 2? Re: Two head nak decks References: <000e01bf26a9$640f0e20$c7e7f1c3@jannissu> <3821D83A.BAC81B17@emall-online.com> <000201bf27fa$a7a3cb60$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> <3823F2B0.70AF@bestweb.net> <38247A3E.D221C7B6@xs4all.nl> <001501bf28ad$6df6b040$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <3824BA85.8FB09C49@execpc.com> I used to love that deck when it first came out, had one, the heads wore very fast, not up to the LX-5 by any means. Kirby MVM wrote: > Thanks everyone for confirming my opinion about LX-3. > I have another piece of beauty coming soon, it's 600mk2. > Please, tell me yours opinion about this extremely nice > looking deck! Is it good sonicaly or it just a collector's piece? > > Michael > Kiev, Ukraine > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Sun Nov 7 01:18:32 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 17:18:32 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Two head nak decks References: <000e01bf26a9$640f0e20$c7e7f1c3@jannissu> <3821D83A.BAC81B17@emall-online.com> <000201bf27fa$a7a3cb60$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <3824C558.BBB175EC@emall-online.com> Actually, the 580 was the only post-600 two head that had the crystal permalloy R/P head, rather than the Sendust head, so it may, in fact, be the most musical of them all. In all other respects, the LX-3 is a better deck, though. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer MVM wrote: > > Hi Naklovers, > > I got a question. Which of two-headed Nak desck considered to be > the best one? I have LX-3, different BXes and Sansui 700 which is > almost Nak 500. But I never had an expirience with 480 models or MR-2, > DR-3 and all others two headed Naks. > As for now I love LX-3 more than BXes. Is there any other views? > > Michael > Kiev, Ukraine > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Sun Nov 7 01:30:08 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 02:30:08 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Parts for old naks - where? References: <000e01bf26a9$640f0e20$c7e7f1c3@jannissu> <3821D83A.BAC81B17@emall-online.com> <000201bf27fa$a7a3cb60$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> <3824C558.BBB175EC@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <00b801bf28b7$404a4a80$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Hi Naktalkers, I know that this question may has no answer at all, but if anyone knows... Where I can find heads (even used but good ones!) for older models of Nak? For 500, 600, 700 models? If there anyone in the whole world who may have some spares - and you know about such a person, please, let me know! I assume that if there is any one like that - someone from the list should know him. Michael, Kiev, Ukraine ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From pmorgan at dynamite.com.au Sun Nov 7 12:14:53 1999 From: pmorgan at dynamite.com.au (Paul Morgan) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 22:14:53 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Auto-Reverse Error References: <19991106142705.21542.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <006701bf2911$520e1260$044a8bca@default> I have a Dragon which chews tapes at the start of the reverse side. It doesn't seem to do this when playing side A and I can even turn the tape over manually and play side B without problem. The problem occurs only when the auto-reverse is used and usually within the first few minutes of tape. Is there a simple cause for this problem or does it require major surgery. Grateful any help. Paul Morgan ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.lrun.com Sun Nov 7 12:55:30 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.lrun.com (David Drucker) Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 06:55:30 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Auto-Reverse Error References: <19991106142705.21542.rocketmail@web106.yahoomail.com> <006701bf2911$520e1260$044a8bca@default> Message-ID: <003101bf2916$fd62e780$093a5e18@stny.rr.com> Mine does the same thing. According to the estimable S. Sank, it's a servo error that crept into a portion of the Dragon's production run. He can fix it, and as soon as I can a) do without the deck for a while, and b) screw up the courage to pack-and-ship it, I'm sending it off to Stephen for the necessary service. DD ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Morgan To: Sent: Sunday, November 07, 1999 6:14 AM Subject: [naktalk] Dragon Auto-Reverse Error > I have a Dragon which chews tapes at the start of the reverse side. It > doesn't seem to do this when playing side A and I can even turn the tape > over manually and play side B without problem. The problem occurs only when > the auto-reverse is used and usually within the first few minutes of tape. > Is there a simple cause for this problem or does it require major surgery. > Grateful any help. > > Paul Morgan > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de Mon Nov 8 11:35:34 1999 From: Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de (Fendt Klaus) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 11:35:34 +0100 Subject: AW: [naktalk] Cassette Deck Hall for voting the best cassette dec k Message-ID: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE779EB1E@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Howie, of course I like my Nak decks but here in Germany there was a deck available from a factory called ASC. They built up famous open reel machines and a cassette deck AS 3001 many years ago. Perhaps anybody can remember these machines with their yellow power buttons. So I think the ASC AS 3001 (Unfortunately I don't own it - In former times I had to chose between a DRAGON and the AS 3001 and bought a DRAGON) should be added to your list of famous decks. Does anybody of the Nakamaniacs own this machine. Tell me your opinions to this Klaus > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Howie Jang [SMTP:hjang2 at yahoo.com] > Gesendet am: Sonntag, 31. Oktober 1999 19:00 > An: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: hjang2 at yahoo.com > Betreff: [naktalk] Cassette Deck Hall for voting the best cassette > deck > > > Hello everyone, > > I think Carlos make a good suggestion, so I will > change the Subject to "Cassette Deck Hall for voting > the best cassette deck". > > I got quite a few response about the best cassette > deck and here is the revised listing: > > Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL, 700ZXE, ZX9, ZX7, > CR-7A, BX-300, RX-505 > Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004, 440A > Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 > Sony: TC-K7ES, TC-KA3ES, TC-K959ES, TC-K909ES > Teac: 8030S, C1, Z7000, Z5000 > Pioneer: CT-S830S, CT-F1250, CT-95, CT-93 > Aiwa: 6900MKII > Denon: DRM24HX > Kenwood: KX9050S > B&O: 9000, 8000 > Onkyo: TA2090 > Marantz: SD9000 > H/K: 300 > Vector Research VCX 800 > Neal Ferrograph 302 > Eumig Metropolitan CCD > Bang & Olufsen 8000 > (please just specify your cassette deck in the voting > if I still miss your wonderful cassette deck!) > > A. The Quota Table: > > Please select only 5 cassette decks from the following > 8 area and also tell me the order sequence(which is > very important): I feel the sonic is the most > important part, so I give recording and playback 25 > quota each and the rest from 5 to 10.(Hope this is > correct and suitable.) > > Area quota winner's quota from 1st to last > =============== ===== ================================ > 1. Recording - 25 (25,24,23,22,21,20,19,18,17,...) > 2. Playback - 25 (25,24,23,22,21,20,19,18,17,...) > 3. Transport - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) > 4. Electronics - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) > 5. Function - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) > 6. Quality - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) > 7. Easy use - 5 (5,4,3,2,1) > 8. Easy maintain - 5 (5,4,3,2,1) > ===================== > Total: 100 > > B. How to Calculate the winner: > > We assign 25 quota in area 1 - 2 for the 1st winner. > 10 quota in area 3 - 6 for the 1st winner. > 5 quota in area 7 - 8 for the 1st winner. > > We calculate the quota from 2nd to the last based on > the following rules. > > We decrease 1 quota based on 1-3 points difference. > 2 quota based on 4-6 points difference. > 3 quota based on 7-9 points difference. > > C. For example: > > In area 1(Recording) if I give my list as: > 1.Revox215, 2.700ZXE, 3.CR-7A, 4.3014A, 5.Z7000. So, > Revox win 5 points, 700ZXE win 4 points, CR-7A win 3 > points, 3014A win 2 ponits, Z7000 win 1 point. > I will found the following after I collect and > calculate all of the voting: > Revox215: 99 points > 700ZXL: 97 points > 1000ZXL: 91 points > dragon: 90 ponits > 3014A: 90 points > 700ZXE: 89 .. > 3004: 85 .. > Z7000: 82 .. > ZX9: 80 .. > ZX7: 75 .. > TC-K7ES: 73 .. > > Based on B.(How to Calculate the winner:) and we will > find the quota in area 1 as the following: > 25 quota to Revox215,(since it's the 1st winner.) > 24 .. to 700ZXL,(2 points lower, decrease 1 quota) > 22 .. to 1000ZXL,(not 23 since the gap is 6 points) > 21 .. to dragon and 3014A(since they got tie), > 20 .. to 700ZXE, > 18 .. to 3004,(not 19 since the gap is 4 ponits) > 17 .. to Z7000, > 16 .. to ZX9, > 14 .. to ZX7.(not 15 since the gap is 5 points) > 13 .. to TC-K7ES > .... > > I think it's better to assign a proper quota to > reflect the gap difference(not just a flat > 25,24,23,22,21,20,19... sequence number for its > quota.) > > D. Where to send your voting: > > hjang2 at yahoo.com > > E. The final winner: > > I will collect and calculate all of the quota in all 8 > area for each cassette deck and post the final > number(quota) to all of you who vote for the best > cassette deck in Cassette Deck Hall . I hope the > above method is very clear and sounding. So, remember > to vote 5 cassette deck by order sequence in all 8 > area and email me(hjang2 at yahoo.com). > > Let's start to vote for the best cassette if all of us > agree the above rule. > > It's so exciting to see the best cassette deck, so do > not forget to vote your dreaming cassette deck and > share your expierence. GO VOTE!!! > > > Thanks, > -Howie > > > --- Carlos wrote: > > Very interesting proposal, Howie. The Aiwa 6900 MK > > II was a very, very nice > > deck and their top of the line during the late 70's. > > What about the Marantz SD 9000 and the late Vector > > Research VCX 800 ? Also, > > we have the Neal Ferrograph 302, Eumig Metropolitan > > CCD, Bang & Olufsen 8000 > > and the Tandberg TD 440 A. The Teac C-1 was a > > workhorse too. And perhaps the > > Pioneer CT F1250 qualifies in this list. > > > > I vote to make a " Cassette Deck Hall of Fame " > > where we can vote for a > > definitive list of wonderful machines. > > > > Best to all, > > > > The tape man > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Howie Jang > > To: > > Cc: > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 1999 3:36 PM > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I think it is going to be much exciting to compare > > the > > > best cassette (recording and playing) deck among > > > Nakamichi, Tandberg, Revox or Studer.(Sony ES and > > Teac > > > 8030S might also be very good choice?) > > > > > > Has anyone done this kind comparison and like to > > share > > > with us? I personally own a 700ZXE but in Stephen > > > Sank shop for maintenance and also just bought an > > all > > > 10 Tandberg 3004(not 3014 or 3014a) that one of > > the > > > stereo magazines claimed superior recordings than > > the > > > Nakamichi Dragon??? I will try to do this > > comparison > > > using my rust ear after my 700ZXE went back from > > > Stephen. But, let me know if any amateur like to > > do > > > this and also lived in San Francisco Bay area.(I > > can > > > bring my 700ZXE, CR-7A and 3004.) It's very > > exciting > > > to see the best commercial cassette deck among: > > > > > > Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL(ZXE), ZX9, > > CR-7A > > > Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004 > > > Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 > > > Sony: 959ES, 909ES > > > Teac: 8030S > > > Pioneer: CTS830S > > > Do I miss any? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > -Howie > > > > > > --- chua jeffrey wrote: > > > > Hi Steven > > > > > > > > You expert advice is needed. > > > > > > > > I do not have any knowledge on either the ZX-7 > > or > > > > ZX-9. I heard from a > > > > friend who owned both before that they were very > > > > good decks. I personally > > > > own a Dragon and a 1000-ZXL. The Dragon was > > bought > > > > new while the 1000-ZXL > > > > was pre-owned. I have been using the Dragon as > > the > > > > 1000-ZXL needs servicing > > > > and I'm still waiting for Nakamichi local agent > > to > > > > set up their service > > > > dept. > > > > > > > > I have'nt had the opportunity to compare the > > > > performance of both decks. In > > > > your opinion which is a better deck, the Dragon > > or > > > > the 1000-ZXL? I would > > > > certainly want to get the set running as soon as > > > > possible to hear and feel > > > > the sonic difference. > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Jeffrey > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: Stephen Sank2 > > > > > > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > > > > >To: naktalk at naks.com > > > > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] ZX-7 or ZX-9 > > > > >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:30:28 -0600 > > > > > > > > > >The 700ZXE/ZXL has the identical transport to > > the > > > > ZX-7, other than the > > > > >auto-drive motor unit at the end of the record > > > > azimuth adjust cable, so > > > > >the W/F spec is the same. The ZX-9's direct > > drive > > > > dual capstans, BTW, > > > > >are not identical to the Dragon. They actually > > > > have larger flywheels & > > > > >there for beat the Dragon on the bench by 0.003 > > > > percent, although I > > > > >believe this to be the only superiority in the > > > > ZX-9. > > > > > > > > > >Website: > > > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > > / > > > > Champlain > > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner > > / > > > > 7611 Menaul Boulevard > > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > > > >"Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm curious to know where the 700zxl's w/f > > > > performance would compare to > > > > > > these two decks. > > > > > > Any idea Stephen? > > > > > > > > > > > > Stan > > > > > > > > > > > > At 04:04 PM 10/29/1999 -0600, you wrote: > > > > > > >The only real difference is that the ZX-7 > > is > > > > belt drive dual capstan & > > > > > > >the ZX-9 is dual direct drive capstans & > > has > > > > much lower wow/flutter. > > > > > > >They usually measure 0.012 percent on my > > bench, > > > > versus 0.025 percent > > > > >for > > > > > > >the ZX-7. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Website: > > > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > > / > > > > Champlain > > > > > > >Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, > > owner > > > > / 7611 Menaul > > > > >Boulevard > > > > > > >N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] > > / > > > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > > > > > >/ Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> "Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig" wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Hi! > > > > > > >> I´m going to buy a ZX-7 or ZX-9 (or maybe > > > > both:-)) > > > > > > >> Could anyone be so kind to help me make > > my > > > > choice much easier? > > > > > > >> Which one is better? > > > > > > >> What are the main differences? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Thanks > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> and greetings from Austria > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Wolfgang > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >========----------------------------------------------------------------- > -= > > > > > > ======== > > > > > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the > > Unofficial > > > > Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > > >resource. > > > > > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > === message truncated === > > > ===== > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hjang2 at yahoo.com Mon Nov 8 15:39:32 1999 From: hjang2 at yahoo.com (Howie Jang) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 06:39:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: AW: [naktalk] Cassette Deck Hall for voting the best cassette dec k Message-ID: <19991108143932.4680.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com> Klaus, Sorry, I never heard this ASC AS 3001. It must be a solid and built like a tank cassette deck. Person like Stephen, Carlos ... might use before? -Howie --- Fendt Klaus wrote: > Howie, > > of course I like my Nak decks but here in Germany > there was a deck available > from a factory called ASC. They built up famous open > reel machines and a > cassette deck AS 3001 many years ago. Perhaps > anybody can remember these > machines with their yellow power buttons. > > So I think the ASC AS 3001 (Unfortunately I don't > own it - In former times I > had to chose between a DRAGON and the AS 3001 and > bought a DRAGON) should be > added to your list of famous decks. > > Does anybody of the Nakamaniacs own this machine. > Tell me your opinions to > this > > Klaus > > > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Howie Jang [SMTP:hjang2 at yahoo.com] > > Gesendet am: Sonntag, 31. Oktober 1999 19:00 > > An: naktalk at naks.com > > Cc: hjang2 at yahoo.com > > Betreff: [naktalk] Cassette Deck Hall for voting > the best cassette > > deck > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > I think Carlos make a good suggestion, so I will > > change the Subject to "Cassette Deck Hall for > voting > > the best cassette deck". > > > > I got quite a few response about the best cassette > > deck and here is the revised listing: > > > > Nakamichi: Dragon, 1000ZXL, 700ZXL, 700ZXE, ZX9, > ZX7, > > CR-7A, BX-300, RX-505 > > Tandberg: 3014A, 3014, 3004, 440A > > Revox: 215(S), B710mk2 > > Sony: TC-K7ES, TC-KA3ES, TC-K959ES, TC-K909ES > > Teac: 8030S, C1, Z7000, Z5000 > > Pioneer: CT-S830S, CT-F1250, CT-95, CT-93 > > Aiwa: 6900MKII > > Denon: DRM24HX > > Kenwood: KX9050S > > B&O: 9000, 8000 > > Onkyo: TA2090 > > Marantz: SD9000 > > H/K: 300 > > Vector Research VCX 800 > > Neal Ferrograph 302 > > Eumig Metropolitan CCD > > Bang & Olufsen 8000 > > (please just specify your cassette deck in the > voting > > if I still miss your wonderful cassette deck!) > > > > A. The Quota Table: > > > > Please select only 5 cassette decks from the > following > > 8 area and also tell me the order sequence(which > is > > very important): I feel the sonic is the most > > important part, so I give recording and playback > 25 > > quota each and the rest from 5 to 10.(Hope this is > > correct and suitable.) > > > > Area quota winner's quota from 1st to > last > > =============== ===== > ================================ > > 1. Recording - 25 > (25,24,23,22,21,20,19,18,17,...) > > 2. Playback - 25 > (25,24,23,22,21,20,19,18,17,...) > > 3. Transport - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) > > 4. Electronics - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) > > 5. Function - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) > > 6. Quality - 10 (10,9,8,7,6,5,4,3,2,1) > > 7. Easy use - 5 (5,4,3,2,1) > > 8. Easy maintain - 5 (5,4,3,2,1) > > ===================== > > Total: 100 > > > > B. How to Calculate the winner: > > > > We assign 25 quota in area 1 - 2 for the 1st > winner. > > 10 quota in area 3 - 6 for the 1st > winner. > > 5 quota in area 7 - 8 for the 1st > winner. > > > > We calculate the quota from 2nd to the last based > on > > the following rules. > > > > We decrease 1 quota based on 1-3 points > difference. > > 2 quota based on 4-6 points > difference. > > 3 quota based on 7-9 points > difference. > > > > C. For example: > > > > In area 1(Recording) if I give my list as: > > 1.Revox215, 2.700ZXE, 3.CR-7A, 4.3014A, 5.Z7000. > So, > > Revox win 5 points, 700ZXE win 4 points, CR-7A win > 3 > > points, 3014A win 2 ponits, Z7000 win 1 point. > > I will found the following after I collect and > > calculate all of the voting: > > Revox215: 99 points > > 700ZXL: 97 points > > 1000ZXL: 91 points > > dragon: 90 ponits > > 3014A: 90 points > > 700ZXE: 89 .. > > 3004: 85 .. > > Z7000: 82 .. > > ZX9: 80 .. > > ZX7: 75 .. > > TC-K7ES: 73 .. > > > > Based on B.(How to Calculate the winner:) and we > will > > find the quota in area 1 as the following: > > 25 quota to Revox215,(since it's the 1st winner.) > > 24 .. to 700ZXL,(2 points lower, decrease 1 > quota) > > 22 .. to 1000ZXL,(not 23 since the gap is 6 > points) > > 21 .. to dragon and 3014A(since they got tie), > > 20 .. to 700ZXE, > > 18 .. to 3004,(not 19 since the gap is 4 > ponits) > > 17 .. to Z7000, > > 16 .. to ZX9, > > 14 .. to ZX7.(not 15 since the gap is 5 points) > > 13 .. to TC-K7ES > > .... > > > > I think it's better to assign a proper quota to > > reflect the gap difference(not just a flat > > 25,24,23,22,21,20,19... sequence number for its > > quota.) > > > > D. Where to send your voting: > > > > hjang2 at yahoo.com > > > > E. The final winner: > > > > I will collect and calculate all of the quota in > all 8 > > area for each cassette deck and post the final > > number(quota) to all of you who vote for the best > > cassette deck in Cassette Deck Hall . I hope the > > above method is very clear and sounding. So, > remember > > to vote 5 cassette deck by order sequence in all 8 > > area and email me(hjang2 at yahoo.com). > > > > Let's start to vote for the best cassette if all > of us > > agree the above rule. > > > > It's so exciting to see the best cassette deck, so > do > > not forget to vote your dreaming cassette deck and > > share your expierence. GO VOTE!!! > > > > > > Thanks, > > -Howie > > > > > > --- Carlos wrote: > > > Very interesting proposal, Howie. The Aiwa 6900 > MK > > > II was a very, very nice > > > deck and their top of the line during the late > 70's. > > > What about the Marantz SD 9000 and the late > Vector > > > Research VCX 800 ? Also, > > > we have the Neal Ferrograph 302, Eumig > Metropolitan > > > CCD, Bang & Olufsen 8000 > === message truncated === ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From GeoffWard at nvision1.com Mon Nov 8 18:01:47 1999 From: GeoffWard at nvision1.com (Geoff Ward) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 09:01:47 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Clock Counters Message-ID: <329AA4E7412ED111B30D00A024CDD94780F783@yosemite-E0.foothill.net> There is one other method used to monitor reel rotation besides the calculation and/or simple timer method. Some decks designed for the pro or industrial market used this scheme. A toothed disk would rotate with the reel motors, interrupting a light beam and thus generating a pulse. The more teeth the finer the count. Accuracy is very good even after extensive tape shuttling using FF and REW. Have not seen this method used in many years, but as I recall several expensive JVC (yuk!!) and similar Japanese brands did implement this back in the late 80's. I have always wanted to try and retro this into an existing deck that had a damaged or otherwise non-functional counter...since it seems fairly easy to do. Geoff Ward Technical Support Engineer NVision, Inc. 530 265 1114 geoffward at nvision1.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From japho at cunyvm.cuny.edu Mon Nov 8 23:35:41 1999 From: japho at cunyvm.cuny.edu (Javier) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 17:35:41 -0500 Subject: AW: [naktalk] Cassette Deck Hall for voting the best cassette deck References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE779EB1E@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Message-ID: <3827503B.5B8903A4@cunyvm.cuny.edu> I would add the 2 head Teac A400 from 1974. It had an unusual rotary tape control system with one knob for play pause rec and another for rew ff. It was a great sounding machine tuned for Maxell tapes and was built like a tank. It's looks were great too. Well brushed satin aluminum and an woodgrain finish case. It was an entry level machine but was said to sound as good as their, then top of their A450 Or was it A50 Don't remember See Ya Javier ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jazzisjazz at mindspring.com Tue Nov 9 00:18:47 1999 From: jazzisjazz at mindspring.com (Stanley P. Pickens) Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 18:18:47 -0500 Subject: AW: [naktalk] Cassette Deck Hall for voting the best cassette deck Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19991108231847.006a16a4@pop.mindspring.com> Hi All, I would like to put in a vote for the akai gx-8. I chose it over a bx-300 At the time it was current. solid transport,flat extended response, reliable except for the stupid motorized loading door ( I actually wore mine out ) It didn't sound as sweet as say a zx/zxl but it looked good, sounded good as long as you never turned on the built in dbx, was easy to use, and was smooth handling. I wanted to have it fixed but akai had gone out of the home audio business by then. Got a cr-4a instead. It sounded a little more like music but i still missed that akai. stan ta 05:35 PM 11/08/1999 -0500, you wrote: >I would add the 2 head Teac A400 from 1974. >It had an unusual rotary tape control system >with one knob for play pause rec and another >for rew ff. It was a great sounding machine >tuned for Maxell tapes and was built like a tank. >It's looks were great too. Well brushed satin >aluminum and an woodgrain finish case. It was >an entry level machine but was said to sound as >good as their, then top of their A450 Or was it A50 >Don't remember >See Ya >Javier > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From HerbChong at compuserve.com Tue Nov 9 04:36:14 1999 From: HerbChong at compuserve.com (Herb Chong) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 22:36:14 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Clock Counters Message-ID: <199911082236_MC2-8C3B-E2A@compuserve.com> Eumig did this with a black and white wheel. the white would reflect the reference light and the black wouldn't. as i remember, this deck didn't use a large flywheel to damp wow and flutter but something else. it was the first cassette deck that had a serial port interface to it for computer control. Herb... ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de Tue Nov 9 12:52:20 1999 From: Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de (Fendt Klaus) Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 12:52:20 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] European Nak Service required Message-ID: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE779EB2D@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Hi together, has anybody made any experiences (good or bad ones) with an european nak service? If so, please give me hints where I can send my DRAGON to get it serviced because it's a very long way to send it from Germany to USA to our special friend Steven Sank Thanks Klaus ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From k.-h.herrmann at fz-juelich.de Tue Nov 9 13:53:22 1999 From: k.-h.herrmann at fz-juelich.de (Karl-Heinz Herrmann) Date: Tue, 09 Nov 1999 13:53:22 +0100 (MET) Subject: [naktalk] European Nak Service required In-Reply-To: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE779EB2D@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Message-ID: On 09-Nov-99 Fendt Klaus wrote: > has anybody made any experiences (good or bad ones) with an european > nak service? > If so, please give me hints where I can send my DRAGON to get it > serviced because it's a very long way to send it from Germany to USA > to our special friend Steven Sank Hallo Klaus, I had my RX-505 at a service in Munich. The deck came with two sound checks which I "cashed in" there. I had at least the impression they knew what they were doing. The Name was "Gurinov" I think. The adress was in the list coming with the deck. I can look up the adress and telephone this evening... But I'm not sure it still exists. The last checkup of my deck is a long way back. K.-H. ---------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: Karl-Heinz Herrmann Date: 09-Nov-99 Time: 13:49:28 ---------------------------------------------------------- ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From robertt at chch.eeca.co.nz Wed Nov 10 01:10:33 1999 From: robertt at chch.eeca.co.nz (robert tromop) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 13:10:33 +1300 Subject: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX Message-ID: <01BF2B7C.FA461820.robertt@chch.eeca.co.nz> Does any one know where i can get a replecement play head for a 670ZX. The view from New Zealand is that supplies have dried up. end Email is used for a range of formal and informal communications. Emails therefore do not necessarily represent the views of EECA. Please contact me if uncertain of an email's status. Robert Tromop Senior Energy Services Engineer Energy Efficiency & Conservation Authority PO Box 8562, Riccarton, Christchurch, New Zealand Phone: 0064 3 3410727 Fax: 0064 3 343 1219 email: Robert.Tromop at eeca.govt.nz www.energywise.co.nz ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Wed Nov 10 21:44:26 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeffrey Galin) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 15:44:26 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX In-Reply-To: <01BF2B7C.FA461820.robertt@chch.eeca.co.nz> Message-ID: Hello Robert, We are checking to see if we have a head. We will get back to you as soon as possible. Thank you, Electronics Service Labs. -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of robert tromop Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 7:11 PM To: 'Naktalk' Subject: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX Importance: High Does any one know where i can get a replecement play head for a 670ZX. The view from New Zealand is that supplies have dried up. end Email is used for a range of formal and informal communications. Emails therefore do not necessarily represent the views of EECA. Please contact me if uncertain of an email's status. Robert Tromop Senior Energy Services Engineer Energy Efficiency & Conservation Authority PO Box 8562, Riccarton, Christchurch, New Zealand Phone: 0064 3 3410727 Fax: 0064 3 343 1219 email: Robert.Tromop at eeca.govt.nz www.energywise.co.nz ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Wed Nov 10 22:47:26 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:47:26 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX References: Message-ID: <008c01bf2bc5$2fc8be60$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Hi Jeffrey, Do you have any spare rec. heads for 700? Or maybe 700mk2? Is it possible to use any other rec. heads? It has really different construction and I'm in doubt if there may be any but just in case... Please, let me know. I also looking for replacement heads for 500, 600mk2, LX-3 and BX-150. Thanks, Michael. ^ Hello Robert, ^ ^ We are checking to see if we have a head. ^ We will get back to you as soon as possible. ^ Thank you, ^ Electronics Service Labs. ^ ^ ^ -----Original Message----- ^ From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of ^ robert tromop ^ Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 7:11 PM ^ To: 'Naktalk' ^ Subject: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX ^ Importance: High ^ ^ Does any one know where i can get a replecement play head for a 670ZX. The ^ view from New Zealand is that supplies have dried up. ^ ^ end ^ ^ Email is used for a range of formal and informal communications. Emails ^ therefore do not necessarily represent the views of EECA. Please contact ^ me if uncertain of an email's status. ^ ^ Robert Tromop ^ Senior Energy Services Engineer ^ Energy Efficiency & Conservation Authority ^ PO Box 8562, Riccarton, Christchurch, New Zealand ^ Phone: 0064 3 3410727 Fax: 0064 3 343 1219 ^ email: Robert.Tromop at eeca.govt.nz ^ www.energywise.co.nz ^ ^ ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ^ ======= ^ naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck ^ resource. ^ TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ^ ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ^ ======= ^ ^ ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ^ naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. ^ TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ^ ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ^ ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eriep at stewstras.net Thu Nov 11 01:41:23 1999 From: eriep at stewstras.net (Erie Patsellis) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:41:23 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX References: <008c01bf2bc5$2fc8be60$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <016d01bf2bdd$7b1984e0$0100a8c0@office> perhaps an extra pair of r/p for a 700II? (hey, dream big...) erie -snip..... > Do you have any spare rec. heads for 700? Or maybe 700mk2? > Is it possible to use any other rec. heads? It has really different > construction -snip....... ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ClaussTwo at aol.com Thu Nov 11 03:35:03 1999 From: ClaussTwo at aol.com (ClaussTwo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:35:03 EST Subject: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX Message-ID: <0.9c447214.255b8557@aol.com> I need to know what type of maintenance is needed for a BX300. I just purchased it from E-Bay. I have a SONY TC-D5M and an older TEAC deck. Your advice is appreciated. John ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From tidybear at juno.com Thu Nov 11 03:27:03 1999 From: tidybear at juno.com (tidybear at juno.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 18:27:03 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] For Sale References: <85256810.004EDDB0.00@beethoven.condenast.com> <380DDBC7.B2AC3813@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <19991110.183308.14230.0.tidybear@juno.com> Hello to everyone, I have a Nakamichi High Com II for sale. It is in mint - condition and has been well care in dry cabinet. i also have the original manual/info with it. Everything, lights, switsh,funtions, are working and original. The price is --------$350-----plus shipping i am in usa please reply to tidybear at juno.com thank you mike ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ClaussTwo at aol.com Thu Nov 11 03:50:22 1999 From: ClaussTwo at aol.com (ClaussTwo at aol.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:50:22 EST Subject: [naktalk] For Sale Message-ID: <0.84758671.255b88ee@aol.com> what is a High Comm II? ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From brianwinans at hotmail.com Thu Nov 11 07:51:06 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 06:51:06 GMT Subject: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX Message-ID: <19991111065107.8301.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey Clauss, I have owned the same BX-300 for close to 15 years, and the only problem I have ever had with it is that I had to have the gear update done to it. (cheap transport, and that only happened about 4 years ago), and the playback head is just now starting to wear out. I am a tape trader, so I have put a LOT of hours on it. You need to see if it has had the gear update done to it. If it hasn't had the gear update, don't worry, it is realitevly inexpensive. A Nak deck, hell any Nak deck, is a classic (like a Corvette), you never throw it out. Happy taping, Brian >From: ClaussTwo at aol.com >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX >Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 21:35:03 EST > >I need to know what type of maintenance is needed for a BX300. I just >purchased it from E-Bay. I have a SONY TC-D5M and an older TEAC deck. Your >advice is appreciated. John >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From tidybear at juno.com Thu Nov 11 08:30:04 1999 From: tidybear at juno.com (tidybear at juno.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 23:30:04 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] For Sale References: <0.84758671.255b88ee@aol.com> Message-ID: <19991110.233027.8454.0.tidybear@juno.com> :hello >what is a High Comm II? high com II is a nakamichi out broad noise reduction/dynamic expander (like dobly b or c or?)unit that will work with all cassette ,tape, recording machine thanks mike >========------------------------------------------------------------------======= ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ClaussTwo at aol.com Thu Nov 11 15:19:09 1999 From: ClaussTwo at aol.com (ClaussTwo at aol.com) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:19:09 EST Subject: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX Message-ID: <0.18b1c783.255c2a5d@aol.com> How would I go about getting the Gear Update done. I live in the New York area? I am really impressed by the sound of the BX300. Clauss ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Thu Nov 11 16:39:55 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeffrey Galin) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:39:55 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX In-Reply-To: <0.9c447214.255b8557@aol.com> Message-ID: The only maintenance is to make sure the tape path is clean. If the machine has had lots of use and auto shuts down, it may need the idler tire changed. If you are going to use the machine a lot there is a gear upgrade for the unit. Electronics Service Labs www.eslabs.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of ClaussTwo at aol.com Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 9:35 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX I need to know what type of maintenance is needed for a BX300. I just purchased it from E-Bay. I have a SONY TC-D5M and an older TEAC deck. Your advice is appreciated. John ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Thu Nov 11 17:20:02 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeffrey Galin) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:20:02 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX In-Reply-To: <0.18b1c783.255c2a5d@aol.com> Message-ID: Clauss, The cost of the gear mod is $45.00 for parts & $110 for the labor. Plus Shipping & Handling. Call for packing instructions. 860.529.3700 Regards, John eslabs at prodigy.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of ClaussTwo at aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 1999 9:19 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX How would I go about getting the Gear Update done. I live in the New York area? I am really impressed by the sound of the BX300. Clauss ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Thu Nov 11 17:50:18 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeffrey Galin) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 11:50:18 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Replacement heads for 700 In-Reply-To: <016d01bf2bdd$7b1984e0$0100a8c0@office> Message-ID: Erie, I have the Nakamichi heads for the 700 & 700mk2. Feel free to call me @860.529.3700. Regards, Jeffrey Galin www.eslabs.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of Erie Patsellis Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 7:41 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX perhaps an extra pair of r/p for a 700II? (hey, dream big...) erie -snip..... > Do you have any spare rec. heads for 700? Or maybe 700mk2? > Is it possible to use any other rec. heads? It has really different > construction -snip....... ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Regards, Jeffrey Galin www.eslabs.com eslabs at prodigy.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of Jeffrey Galin Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 3:44 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX Hello Robert, We are checking to see if we have a head. We will get back to you as soon as possible. Thank you, Electronics Service Labs. -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of robert tromop Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 1999 7:11 PM To: 'Naktalk' Subject: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX Importance: High Does any one know where i can get a replecement play head for a 670ZX. The view from New Zealand is that supplies have dried up. end Email is used for a range of formal and informal communications. Emails therefore do not necessarily represent the views of EECA. Please contact me if uncertain of an email's status. Robert Tromop Senior Energy Services Engineer Energy Efficiency & Conservation Authority PO Box 8562, Riccarton, Christchurch, New Zealand Phone: 0064 3 3410727 Fax: 0064 3 343 1219 email: Robert.Tromop at eeca.govt.nz www.energywise.co.nz ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ClaussTwo at aol.com Fri Nov 12 01:21:19 1999 From: ClaussTwo at aol.com (ClaussTwo at aol.com) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 19:21:19 EST Subject: [naktalk] Replacement play head for 670ZX Message-ID: <0.a90fa6da.255cb77f@aol.com> Do you have an owners manual for the BX300? What is the address for Nak USA? Thanks for your help Clauss ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From w.smetanig at chello.at Fri Nov 12 10:51:25 1999 From: w.smetanig at chello.at (Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 10:51:25 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nak-Service in AUSTRIA / Germany? Message-ID: <012801bf2cf3$7ef7b020$4601010a@P200.telekabel.at> Hi! Could anyone tell me where the nearest - and best - Nakamichi repair/service station is located? I live in EUROPE / AUSTRIA Thanx Wolfgang ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Sat Nov 13 01:33:38 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 01:33:38 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Lamps Message-ID: <382CB1E2.F3C11468@xs4all.nl> Hi Everyone, Most of you may have the 'broken light' problem, some decks even stop playing when certain lights are broken. When I need a new light I get them from the Dutch Nak importer Transtec but they charge a lot for a light. Now is there anyone who knows what kind of lights are used? As far as I know light for the most common places like function, counter, cassette house, auto shutoff are one and the same. What is the type so I can get some in a regular shop! This may help everyone! Thanks, Wouter ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Sat Nov 13 03:57:47 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:57:47 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Lamps Message-ID: <168803.942461717.viking@emall-online.com> The OB08466A lamps that are most commonly used(the tiny ones) are a 14V/35mA type, and are easily sourced from various OEM sources. I use Hosfelt Electronics, who has what seem to be the identical lamps for about $0.35 each. The 24V lamps used in the 480 series & earlier Naks I have not yet found alternatives for. Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ---------- > From: Wouter Heijke > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Lamps > Date: Friday, November 12, 1999 5:33 PM > > Hi Everyone, > > Most of you may have the 'broken light' problem, some decks even stop > playing when certain lights are broken. > When I need a new light I get them from the Dutch Nak importer Transtec > but they charge a lot for a light. > Now is there anyone who knows what kind of lights are used? As far as I > know light for the most common places like function, counter, cassette > house, auto shutoff are one and the same. > > What is the type so I can get some in a regular shop! > > This may help everyone! > > Thanks, > > Wouter > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Sat Nov 13 11:25:28 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:25:28 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Electronics Service Labs? Message-ID: <382D3C98.85C88498@xs4all.nl> Anyone have any experience with these guys? Thanks, Wouter > We are Electronics Service Labs in Connecticut. > We have been servicing Naks since the late 1970s. > We did the service for the Nak Long Island office.Sonic Sense is now recommending us for Nak repairs. > Can we been added to your repair sight link. > Thank You > Jeffrey Galin > www.eslabs.com > eslabs at prodigy.net > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Sat Nov 13 11:28:48 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 11:28:48 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Lamps References: <168803.942461717.viking@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <382D3D5F.D3FBE420@xs4all.nl> Thanks! I did some investigation, the 680ZX pdf service manual from the site, which mentions 2 types: 12V 25mA 12V 60mA For the first one I got some 'official' replacements of this type: 12V 30mA These should have a longer life.... Wouter Stephen Sank wrote: > The OB08466A lamps that are most commonly used(the tiny ones) are a > 14V/35mA type, and are easily sourced from various OEM sources. I use > Hosfelt Electronics, who has what seem to be the identical lamps for about > $0.35 each. The 24V lamps used in the 480 series & earlier Naks I have not > yet found alternatives for. > > Stephen Sank, Owner > Champlain Valley Speaker Company > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. > Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] > phone/fax 505-296-8795 > > ---------- > > From: Wouter Heijke > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: [naktalk] Lamps > > Date: Friday, November 12, 1999 5:33 PM > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > Most of you may have the 'broken light' problem, some decks even stop > > playing when certain lights are broken. > > When I need a new light I get them from the Dutch Nak importer Transtec > > but they charge a lot for a light. > > Now is there anyone who knows what kind of lights are used? As far as I > > know light for the most common places like function, counter, cassette > > house, auto shutoff are one and the same. > > > > What is the type so I can get some in a regular shop! > > > > This may help everyone! > > > > Thanks, > > > > Wouter > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From enoyes at snet.net Sat Nov 13 13:33:39 1999 From: enoyes at snet.net (Ed Noyes) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 07:33:39 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Electronics Service Labs? References: <382D3C98.85C88498@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <382D5AA2.FCDC357F@snet.net> Yes! ESL is probably one of the most highly regarded service centers is the US. Back when Nak was providing support on the East Coast, ESL was their designated center for repair work and they have had at least 20 years of experience working on these decks. The only person I have ever been in touch with who seems to have the same level of expertise with Nak gear is Stephen Sank. They are the real deal! BTW, Jeffery if you're reading this, do you guys still have any of the ZX-9 that came from Nak's duplication facility? Regards, Ed Wouter Heijke wrote: > Anyone have any experience with these guys? > > Thanks, > > Wouter > > > We are Electronics Service Labs in Connecticut. > > We have been servicing Naks since the late 1970s. > > We did the service for the Nak Long Island office.Sonic Sense is now recommending us for Nak repairs. > > Can we been added to your repair sight link. > > Thank You > > Jeffrey Galin > > www.eslabs.com > > eslabs at prodigy.net > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddavid at ntplx.net Sun Nov 14 05:29:57 1999 From: ddavid at ntplx.net (ddavid) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:29:57 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Electronics Service Labs? Message-ID: <001801bf2e58$e87d78c0$50cf0418@ddavid.brstl1.ct.home.com> Ed, my experience with them has been less than inspiring...I brought them my old NAK 500 about 12 years ago, and they wanted almost $400 to repair it! I then went down to the Hi-Fi Stereo shop and picked up a brand new CR-1A for $280..still have it, sounds great and cost me a hell of a lot less then Eslabs wanted. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Noyes To: naktalk at naks.com Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Electronics Service Labs? >Yes! ESL is probably one of the most highly regarded service centers is the US. Back when Nak was >providing support on the East Coast, ESL was their designated center for repair work and they have had at >least 20 years of experience working on these decks. The only person I have ever been in touch with who >seems to have the same level of expertise with Nak gear is Stephen Sank. They are the real deal! BTW, >Jeffery if you're reading this, do you guys still have any of the ZX-9 that came from Nak's duplication >facility? > >Regards, >Ed > >Wouter Heijke wrote: > >> Anyone have any experience with these guys? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Wouter >> >> > We are Electronics Service Labs in Connecticut. >> > We have been servicing Naks since the late 1970s. >> > We did the service for the Nak Long Island office.Sonic Sense is now recommending us for Nak repairs. >> > Can we been added to your repair sight link. >> > Thank You >> > Jeffrey Galin >> > www.eslabs.com >> > eslabs at prodigy.net >> > >> >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddavid at ntplx.net Sun Nov 14 05:32:43 1999 From: ddavid at ntplx.net (ddavid) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 1999 23:32:43 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Electronics Service Labs? Message-ID: <001f01bf2e59$4b39a7e0$50cf0418@ddavid.brstl1.ct.home.com> Yes, I have. My experience with them has been less than inspiring...I brought them my old NAK 500 about 12 years ago, and they wanted almost $400 to repair it! I then went down the road to the Hi-Fi Stereo shop and picked up a brand new CR-1A for $280..still have it, sounds great and cost me a hell of a lot less then Eslabs wanted. I would definitely consider that when going to them for repair. At the time, they also wanted $25 simply to look at it. Most likely, that price has increased since then. -----Original Message----- From: Wouter Heijke To: naktalk at naks.com Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 5:46 AM Subject: [naktalk] Electronics Service Labs? >Anyone have any experience with these guys? > >Thanks, > >Wouter > >> We are Electronics Service Labs in Connecticut. >> We have been servicing Naks since the late 1970s. >> We did the service for the Nak Long Island office.Sonic Sense is now recommending us for Nak repairs. >> Can we been added to your repair sight link. >> Thank You >> Jeffrey Galin >> www.eslabs.com >> eslabs at prodigy.net >> > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From enoyes at snet.net Sun Nov 14 06:04:19 1999 From: enoyes at snet.net (Ed Noyes) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 00:04:19 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Electronics Service Labs? References: <001801bf2e58$e87d78c0$50cf0418@ddavid.brstl1.ct.home.com> Message-ID: <382E42D1.D5D507FC@snet.net> Of course I should mention that ESL is not the least expensive game in town by any means... there is a reason why I sent my CR7A all the way to the very reasonable (and always friendly) Stephen Sank when ESL is only 30 miles from where I live. It is interesting that when I asked them about used 600II's they told me they had them for something like $400+... and offered about $50 for mine with worn heads. Bear in mind that the 600II that you buy from them will have been totally torn down and rebuilt by hand with performance and reliability in excess of a new out of the box deck! As for me, they are still too rich for my blood. Another thing that really makes me plan to continue my service work with Stephen is the fact that he is very free with technical support advice and has helped me and many others get our Naks back to working without a trip to the shop. This is unique as virtually every other tech that I've dealt with (including Marc Nutter at Sonic Sense and ESL) has been vague with information or any hints as to where and what a problem may be. Thanks for the free and often perfect advice Stephen... that alone is a guarantee of loyalty on my part... it is obvious that a love for the decks and the Nak community rather than flat out money is what drives him. Thanks Again! Regards, Ed ddavid wrote: > Ed, my experience with them has been less than inspiring...I brought them > my old NAK 500 about 12 years ago, and they wanted almost $400 to repair it! > I then went down to the Hi-Fi Stereo shop and picked up a brand new CR-1A > for $280..still have it, sounds great and cost me a hell of a lot less then > Eslabs wanted. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Noyes > To: naktalk at naks.com > Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 7:45 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Electronics Service Labs? > > >Yes! ESL is probably one of the most highly regarded service centers is the > US. Back when Nak was > >providing support on the East Coast, ESL was their designated center for > repair work and they have had at > >least 20 years of experience working on these decks. The only person I have > ever been in touch with who > >seems to have the same level of expertise with Nak gear is Stephen Sank. > They are the real deal! BTW, > >Jeffery if you're reading this, do you guys still have any of the ZX-9 that > came from Nak's duplication > >facility? > > > >Regards, > >Ed > > > >Wouter Heijke wrote: > > > >> Anyone have any experience with these guys? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Wouter > >> > >> > We are Electronics Service Labs in Connecticut. > >> > We have been servicing Naks since the late 1970s. > >> > We did the service for the Nak Long Island office.Sonic Sense is now > recommending us for Nak repairs. > >> > Can we been added to your repair sight link. > >> > Thank You > >> > Jeffrey Galin > >> > www.eslabs.com > >> > eslabs at prodigy.net > >> > > >> > >> > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >> > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sun Nov 14 19:07:37 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 14 Nov 1999 13:07:37 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Electronics Service Labs? References: <001f01bf2e59$4b39a7e0$50cf0418@ddavid.brstl1.ct.home.com> Message-ID: <005b01bf2ecb$24c089e0$a12f2ac4@coqui.net> Well Guys: Unfortunately, all the people I have contacted to has conclude the same: they are really good but really expensive too. My experience with Mr. Sank is simply marvelous and that's why all my Nak gear take a long trip from Puerto Rico to New Mexico's. Now the story ... Just a month ago I bought a deck from Echo Audio in Oregon. A mint 700 ZXl, well not so mint ... After receiving it, she start distorting channel right and the Auto alingment mechanism never works good. I contacted Stephen and we tried a couple of things by the phone for FREE!!!! I shipped the machine back to Echo for warranty. The machine was almost destroyed in shipping and Echo told me it was almost impossible and expensive to fix with no warranties ! I claimed the postal insurance and since I paid the machine I asked them to send it to Stephen. Well, the rest is history ... Mr. Sank fixed it in 2 days and modified the mechanism holding pillars with a much stronger invention, changed all lamps, did every alingment and for less than a half of what Echo's were thinking ! Unfortunately, the intermittent problem came back again, but Stephen took care of the situation inmmediately and everything was covered under his warranty. I kept the machine and just send the suspected damage board in question to him. My 700 ZXl is now one of the best of its kind available and if I ever sell her, (I doubt it ! ) the buyer would be simply bless !!! My full recommendation for Stephen Sank at New mexico, PERIOD ! Carlos The Tape Man ----- Original Message ----- From: ddavid To: Sent: Saturday, November 13, 1999 11:32 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Electronics Service Labs? > Yes, I have. My experience with them has been less than inspiring...I > brought them my old NAK 500 about 12 years ago, and they wanted almost $400 > to repair it! I then went down the road to the Hi-Fi Stereo shop and picked > up a brand new CR-1A for $280.. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jannissu at worldonline.nl Tue Nov 16 09:39:20 1999 From: jannissu at worldonline.nl (Jannis) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 09:39:20 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nak-Service in AUSTRIA / Germany? References: <012801bf2cf3$7ef7b020$4601010a@P200.telekabel.at> Message-ID: <000201bf300f$13fc2e80$bbe3f1c3@jannissu> The best Nakamichi repair/service I know of is in Holland. The address is: Transtec B.V Brugwachter 19 3034 KD Rotterdam Holland tel: 0031 10 4147055 fax: 0031 10 4113580 e-mail: transtec at transtec.nl www.transtec.nl Transtec was and is the official Nakamichi dealer in Holland. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dr. Wolfgang Smetanig To: Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 10:51 AM Subject: [naktalk] Nak-Service in AUSTRIA / Germany? > Hi! > > Could anyone tell me where the nearest - and best - Nakamichi repair/service > station is located? > I live in EUROPE / AUSTRIA > > Thanx > > Wolfgang > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Jrdcesq at aol.com Tue Nov 16 16:08:10 1999 From: Jrdcesq at aol.com (Jrdcesq at aol.com) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 10:08:10 EST Subject: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth Message-ID: <0.204699b4.2562cd5a@aol.com> The auto azimuth light on my Dragon never stops blinking when the tape is playing unless there is a silent space on the tape. I used to be able to hear the azimuth adjusting, but I cannot anymore. I just had the Dragon serviced by Steven Sank, a few months ago and he did an excellent job. This started to happen about a month (and twenty tape recordings) after the service, but I cleaned the heads and it was fixed. Now even cleaning the heads does not work. Does anyone know what this problem is and how to fix it? I would like to avoid shipping the Dragon out again. Any input at all would be greatly appreciated. You can e-mail me back at jrdcesq at aol.com Thank you in advance for your help. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Tue Nov 16 17:03:16 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeff Galin) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 11:03:16 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth References: <0.204699b4.2562cd5a@aol.com> Message-ID: <001701bf304c$1937d380$2c449cd1@jeffery> This is a common problem. Does your machine have all the auto azimuth up-grade modifications? Well experienced Nakamichi authorized servicers should be aware of the up-dates. Jeffrey Galin ELECTRONICS SERVICE LABS www.eslabs.com or eslabs at prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 10:08 AM Subject: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth > The auto azimuth light on my Dragon never stops blinking when the tape is > playing unless there is a silent space on the tape. I used to be able to > hear the azimuth adjusting, but I cannot anymore. I just had the Dragon > serviced by Steven Sank, a few months ago and he did an excellent job. This > started to happen about a month (and twenty tape recordings) after the > service, but I cleaned the heads and it was fixed. Now even cleaning the > heads does not work. > > Does anyone know what this problem is and how to fix it? I would like to > avoid shipping the Dragon out again. Any input at all would be greatly > appreciated. > > You can e-mail me back at jrdcesq at aol.com > > Thank you in advance for your help. > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Tue Nov 16 19:28:41 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeffrey Galin) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:28:41 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Electronics Service Labs? In-Reply-To: <382E42D1.D5D507FC@snet.net> Message-ID: > TO ALL NAKAMICHI LOVERS, > > I obtained all the Nakamichi ZX-9 s from Nakamichi's recording studio > in California. They were sent to me by the President of Nakamichi > with the intent to be overhauled and sold to Nakamichi enthusiasts. > Some have been overhauled and are in excellent to mint condition! > They come boxed with a copy of the owner's manual and > a 1 YEAR WARRANTY, just like when they were new !! > The cost is $1000 plus S & H. > > If you know Nakamichi cassette decks, > you know why Nakamichi used the ZX-9 s in THEIR recording studio. > > Feel free to call me @860.529.3700. M-F 8AM to 6PM EST. > www.eslabs.com or eslabs at prodigy.net > > Sincerely, > > Jeffrey Galin > > Nakamichi Serviced Here > ELECTRONICS SERVICE LABS > 1807 Berlin Turnpike > Wethersfield, CT 06109 -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of Ed Noyes Sent: Sunday, November 14, 1999 12:04 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Electronics Service Labs? Of course I should mention that ESL is not the least expensive game in town by any means... there is a reason why I sent my CR7A all the way to the very reasonable (and always friendly) Stephen Sank when ESL is only 30 miles from where I live. It is interesting that when I asked them about used 600II's they told me they had them for something like $400+... and offered about $50 for mine with worn heads. Bear in mind that the 600II that you buy from them will have been totally torn down and rebuilt by hand with performance and reliability in excess of a new out of the box deck! As for me, they are still too rich for my blood. Another thing that really makes me plan to continue my service work with Stephen is the fact that he is very free with technical support advice and has helped me and many others get our Naks back to working without a trip to the shop. This is unique as virtually every other tech that I've dealt with (including Marc Nutter at Sonic Sense and ESL) has been vague with information or any hints as to where and what a problem may be. Thanks for the free and often perfect advice Stephen... that alone is a guarantee of loyalty on my part... it is obvious that a love for the decks and the Nak community rather than flat out money is what drives him. Thanks Again! Regards, Ed ddavid wrote: > Ed, my experience with them has been less than inspiring...I brought them > my old NAK 500 about 12 years ago, and they wanted almost $400 to repair it! > I then went down to the Hi-Fi Stereo shop and picked up a brand new CR-1A > for $280..still have it, sounds great and cost me a hell of a lot less then > Eslabs wanted. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Noyes > To: naktalk at naks.com > Date: Saturday, November 13, 1999 7:45 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Electronics Service Labs? > > >Yes! ESL is probably one of the most highly regarded service centers is the > US. Back when Nak was > >providing support on the East Coast, ESL was their designated center for > repair work and they have had at > >least 20 years of experience working on these decks. The only person I have > ever been in touch with who > >seems to have the same level of expertise with Nak gear is Stephen Sank. > They are the real deal! BTW, > >Jeffery if you're reading this, do you guys still have any of the ZX-9 that > came from Nak's duplication > >facility? > > > >Regards, > >Ed > > > >Wouter Heijke wrote: > > > >> Anyone have any experience with these guys? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Wouter > >> > >> > We are Electronics Service Labs in Connecticut. > >> > We have been servicing Naks since the late 1970s. > >> > We did the service for the Nak Long Island office.Sonic Sense is now > recommending us for Nak repairs. > >> > Can we been added to your repair sight link. > >> > Thank You > >> > Jeffrey Galin > >> > www.eslabs.com > >> > eslabs at prodigy.net > >> > > >> > >> > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >> > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From afox at hsc.usc.edu Wed Nov 17 06:06:30 1999 From: afox at hsc.usc.edu (Art Fox) Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 21:06:30 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth In-Reply-To: <001701bf304c$1937d380$2c449cd1@jeffery> References: <0.204699b4.2562cd5a@aol.com> Message-ID: Jeff, i just had a couple of questions. This auto-az problem seems to be so common, and when purported to be fixed, usually recurs after not too long. Is it possible to really fix it, or adjust it so it works for longer, than say, a few months? And secondly, what would you say are some of the more important auto-az upgrades one should consider when servicing a dragon for this problem. Finally, I know all decks are different, but what would you say is a fair ballpark figure for getting all this done? Any info is much appreciated. Regards, Art. >This is a common problem. Does your machine have all the auto azimuth >up-grade modifications? Well experienced Nakamichi authorized servicers >should be aware of the up-dates. > >Jeffrey Galin > >ELECTRONICS SERVICE LABS >www.eslabs.com or eslabs at prodigy.net > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 10:08 AM >Subject: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth > > >> The auto azimuth light on my Dragon never stops blinking when the tape is >> playing unless there is a silent space on the tape. I used to be able to >> hear the azimuth adjusting, but I cannot anymore. I just had the Dragon >> serviced by Steven Sank, a few months ago and he did an excellent job. >This >> started to happen about a month (and twenty tape recordings) after the >> service, but I cleaned the heads and it was fixed. Now even cleaning the >> heads does not work. >> >> Does anyone know what this problem is and how to fix it? I would like to >> avoid shipping the Dragon out again. Any input at all would be greatly >> appreciated. >> >> You can e-mail me back at jrdcesq at aol.com >> >> Thank you in advance for your help. >> >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > >========------------------------------------------------------------------===== >==== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------===== >==== "seashore walk by the suds and the foam been here so long, he got to callin' it Home..." Art Fox Playa Del Rey, California afox at hsc.usc.edu afox at mediaone.net ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de Wed Nov 17 09:33:07 1999 From: Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de (Fendt Klaus) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 1999 09:33:07 +0100 Subject: AW: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth Message-ID: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE779EB3E@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Jeffrey, can you explain more details about auto azimuth upgrade modifications? What can be done to the DRAGON machine (my one's serial number is 08717 and it is about 13 years old). Unfortunately I reside in Germany so I think it is very expensive to send it half around the world to get it serviced . . . Klaus > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Jeff Galin [SMTP:eslabs at prodigy.net] > Gesendet am: Dienstag, 16. November 1999 17:03 > An: naktalk at naks.com > Betreff: Re: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth > > This is a common problem. Does your machine have all the auto azimuth > up-grade modifications? Well experienced Nakamichi authorized servicers > should be aware of the up-dates. > > Jeffrey Galin > > ELECTRONICS SERVICE LABS > www.eslabs.com or eslabs at prodigy.net > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 10:08 AM > Subject: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth > > > > The auto azimuth light on my Dragon never stops blinking when the tape > is > > playing unless there is a silent space on the tape. I used to be able > to > > hear the azimuth adjusting, but I cannot anymore. I just had the Dragon > > serviced by Steven Sank, a few months ago and he did an excellent job. > This > > started to happen about a month (and twenty tape recordings) after the > > service, but I cleaned the heads and it was fixed. Now even cleaning > the > > heads does not work. > > > > Does anyone know what this problem is and how to fix it? I would like > to > > avoid shipping the Dragon out again. Any input at all would be greatly > > appreciated. > > > > You can e-mail me back at jrdcesq at aol.com > > > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > == > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > == > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bohnen at unixg.ubc.ca Thu Nov 18 23:34:08 1999 From: bohnen at unixg.ubc.ca (Aaron Bohnen) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 14:34:08 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] FS: Nak Cassette Deck 2 in pristine condition In-Reply-To: <37AF3AA5.C2133CE1@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: Hi everyone, I am going to be selling my Nak Cassette Deck 2. It is truly superb shape - not a single scratch or ding anywhere on it. I don't want to oversell it but I honestly have never seen another one as good as this except when I saw them brand new on the shelf. This unit has very low hours also. The transport is far smoother than my LX-5. I have the original owner's manual with the deck as well. Some Nakker is going to get a remarkably nice example of the Cassette Deck 2. Price: $US 235 and shipping from Vancouver, B.C. More information can be seen on Wouter's superb site: "http://www.naks.com" - just press NAKS on the left then scroll down on the right and click "Cassette Deck" when you see it. I can also email digital pictures if anyone is interested. best regards to all, Aaron ___________________________________________________________ Aaron Bohnen email: bohnen at unixg.ubc.ca -Ph.D. Student, Civil Engineering Department, U.B.C. -website: http://www.civil.ubc.ca/home/bohnen ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From DJBrown96 at aol.com Fri Nov 19 05:50:51 1999 From: DJBrown96 at aol.com (DJBrown96 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:50:51 EST Subject: [naktalk] Nak 680 Message-ID: <0.a7a199d6.2566312b@aol.com> Hello, I was wondering if anyone out there could tell me if, I would gain any sonic improvement by upgrading from my nak 680 to a Dragon. The 680 is in "as new" condition, and sounds great. I would only want to part with it, if there was a noticeable improvement with the Dragon. I source record on a Revox 10" reel to reel, and transfer the recording to the Nak, for playback purposes. So, I guess that, I am really only interested in a playback comparison. If anyone has an opinion, I am all ears. Thanks, Dennis ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From aaron_taylor at reyrey.com Fri Nov 19 14:55:51 1999 From: aaron_taylor at reyrey.com (Aaron Taylor) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 08:55:51 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] CR-1A for sale! Message-ID: <01BF326B.E1D22B80.aaron_taylor@reyrey.com> CASSETTE DECK, NAKAMICHI, CR-1A, in mint condition, $135 (937)485-4686 Location: OHIO Nakamichi CR-1 (1988-1990) 2-Head Cassette Deck Head(s): 2 Head type(s): RP-2G, E-2D Noise reduction: B, C Meters: Led (11 segments) Tape: EX, SX, ZX Counter: Analog Motors: 3 Belt drive Headphones Filter(s): Mpx DC Output (for Blackbox) Color: Black Usage: Home Model ID: a326 Thanks Aaron ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Nov 19 16:14:07 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:14:07 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Revox B-77 References: <0.6e54c696.2548a1ec@aol.com> Message-ID: <002701bf32a0$ba498600$d42f2ac4@coqui.net> Gregg: Your machine is leaving early next week. I'm getting sure that it is really good packed. I wasn't convince with my early results, so, I tried again. Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 1999 1:43 PM Subject: [naktalk] Revox B-77 > Carlos - > > I am sending you out a check for $570.10 today for your B-77. It is a > personal check, so take your time to make sure it clears before you send out > the deck. I gave you my address before, but in case you need it again, it is: > > Gregg Mitchell > Sound World > 9360 State Road 16 > Onalaska, WI 54650 > > - Gregg > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Nov 19 16:17:26 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 10:17:26 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nak 680 References: <0.a7a199d6.2566312b@aol.com> Message-ID: <003d01bf32a1$3081ce40$d42f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello Larry: For me the Dragon is the best playback cassette deck in the world, period. No other deck can't beat her autoalingment mechanism and the sound is excellent. A 100% Nakamichi ! Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 11:50 PM Subject: [naktalk] Nak 680 > Hello, > I was wondering if anyone out there could tell me if, I would gain any > sonic > improvement by upgrading from my nak 680 to a Dragon. > The 680 is in "as new" condition, and sounds great. I would only want to > part with > it, if there was a noticeable improvement with the Dragon. > I source record on a Revox 10" reel to reel, and transfer the recording to > the Nak, > for playback purposes. So, I guess that, I am really only interested in a > playback > comparison. If anyone has an opinion, I am all ears. > Thanks, Dennis > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From DCKelly43 at aol.com Sat Nov 20 03:45:16 1999 From: DCKelly43 at aol.com (DCKelly43 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 21:45:16 EST Subject: [naktalk] bx100? Message-ID: <0.6692fc09.2567653c@aol.com> anyone got a copy of the owners manual for the nak bx100 much appreciated, damian ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddavid at ntplx.net Sat Nov 20 04:53:22 1999 From: ddavid at ntplx.net (ddavid) Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 22:53:22 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] RE: CR-1A for sale Message-ID: <003301bf330a$cac8a5a0$50cf0418@brstl1.ct.home.com> Who is it that has the CR-1A for sale? I misplaced your e-mail, and I'm very interested. Dan David dan_david at email.msn.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From NakamiKaze at hotmail.com Mon Nov 22 00:48:52 1999 From: NakamiKaze at hotmail.com (Matyas) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 00:48:52 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 2 head strange- LX3- 582 References: <000e01bf26a9$640f0e20$c7e7f1c3@jannissu> <3821D83A.BAC81B17@emall-online.com> <000201bf27fa$a7a3cb60$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> <3823F2B0.70AF@bestweb.net> <38247A3E.D221C7B6@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <19991121235423.61069.qmail@hotmail.com> Can anyone help me about a special behaviour of Lx-3 ? It's about a week that a friend purshase a Lx-3 in "total" mint condition for a low price that I woulnt remind!!! This beauty was just very dusty inside the casssette case...isopropyl...demagnetize...a big kiss...and a recording test. And so? Killer! Cristal clear sound that I can judge supperior to the 2 Dragons I know (smoothless, more direct) oh! what am I talking about !(perhaps they needs an overhaul, or perhaps Lx * are...betters..) But Lx-3 sing dramatically bad when playing pre-recorded tapes ! (fat,no treeble,mono-like,ugly sound)I think first that the previous owner use her for manual Azimuth enjoyements...and let the setting to anywhere. Second step reflection-My friend own also a 600 II (problematic) of wich one he can takes out only a record ! We have put this treassured tape into LX-3...and sounds well ! Dragon 15 KHz test azimuth on sony Metal Master too !(low drifting phase and breath ), ZX-7 15 KHz azimuth test..too ! I wondering some times about EQ or Dolby drifted caracteristics, but the imperial recording she gaves are beyond of a doubt the result of a well calibrated deck (am I mistaking? do a drifted caracteristics deck can record flat beyond 20 KHz @ 0 dB without any noise reduction ?) And about music, her recordings are as well a fist in my face once played in the Dragon :compatibility of Dolby, in one sense. - Did the LX-3 was since her conception recognized as a non compatible deck for playing anything else than Nakamichi two heads recordings ? (600 II can play better than this LX-3).....Perhaps the cause is the absence of a pressure pad lifter in the 600 II ? I dont know. I want to know if it is worth to do capacitors upgrade on my 3 head 582, did it originally sounds as good as the LX-3 /5 if the 580 definitely comes right after the LX3, does the LX-5 is better than 582 ?(please, dont speak about calibration capabilities,but sound) Many thanks for any reply and comments, best, Matyas (Dragon,582) ----- Original Message ----- From: Wouter Heijke To: Sent: Saturday, November 06, 1999 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Two head nak decks > I totally agree with Tom, as usual! > Personally I like the LX3/480/580 better then the 'new' 2 head decks like the BX/MR/DR > series... the 580 definitely comes right after the LX3! > > Wouter ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From NakamiKaze at hotmail.com Mon Nov 22 00:44:03 1999 From: NakamiKaze at hotmail.com (Matyas) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 00:44:03 +0100 Subject: [naktalk]Nak680 -BLACK BOX References: <199911200140.JAA16568@mx2.asiaonline.net> Message-ID: <19991121235419.11912.qmail@hotmail.com> HI ! Black box is a serie of appliances for Nak cassettes decks, powered by theirs DC output supply.(PS-100 black box is an external power supply dedicated to Black Box series) There is several models, each of them allows you differant functions, like microphone mixer, external noise reduction, pre RIAA MC cartridge booster( MB-150,1977 ),and some I dont remind... Matyas ----- Original Message ----- From: Cathy & Pete > hi there > can any one please tell me what a "blackbox" is. i have a dragon > best regards ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From GeoffWard at nvision1.com Mon Nov 22 17:39:09 1999 From: GeoffWard at nvision1.com (Geoff Ward) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 08:39:09 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Manual for BX-100 Message-ID: <329AA4E7412ED111B30D00A024CDD94780F7B7@yosemite-E0.foothill.net> I have a manual for my BX-150 I would be willing to make a copy of and send to you if you strike out on one specific to the 100. Drop me your full name and address to the email address below. Geoff Ward Technical Support Engineer NVision, Inc. 530 265 1114 geoffward at nvision1.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Tue Nov 23 05:59:18 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeffrey Galin) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:59:18 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Art, After all the up-grade modifications have been done, I don't see why it should fail unless the tape path is not kept clean. We give a 6 month warranty with an overhaul. For an estimated cost we would have to see the machine. For a guesstimate, please call me. Sincerely, Jeffrey Galin 860-529-3700 M-F 8am-6pm EST eslabs at prodigy.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com] On Behalf Of Art Fox Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 12:07 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth Jeff, i just had a couple of questions. This auto-az problem seems to be so common, and when purported to be fixed, usually recurs after not too long. Is it possible to really fix it, or adjust it so it works for longer, than say, a few months? And secondly, what would you say are some of the more important auto-az upgrades one should consider when servicing a dragon for this problem. Finally, I know all decks are different, but what would you say is a fair ballpark figure for getting all this done? Any info is much appreciated. Regards, Art. >This is a common problem. Does your machine have all the auto azimuth >up-grade modifications? Well experienced Nakamichi authorized servicers >should be aware of the up-dates. > >Jeffrey Galin > >ELECTRONICS SERVICE LABS >www.eslabs.com or eslabs at prodigy.net > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 10:08 AM >Subject: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth > > >> The auto azimuth light on my Dragon never stops blinking when the tape is >> playing unless there is a silent space on the tape. I used to be able to >> hear the azimuth adjusting, but I cannot anymore. I just had the Dragon >> serviced by Steven Sank, a few months ago and he did an excellent job. >This >> started to happen about a month (and twenty tape recordings) after the >> service, but I cleaned the heads and it was fixed. Now even cleaning the >> heads does not work. >> >> Does anyone know what this problem is and how to fix it? I would like to >> avoid shipping the Dragon out again. Any input at all would be greatly >> appreciated. >> >> You can e-mail me back at jrdcesq at aol.com >> >> Thank you in advance for your help. >> >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = >======= >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = >======= > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ==== >==== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ==== >==== "seashore walk by the suds and the foam been here so long, he got to callin' it Home..." Art Fox Playa Del Rey, California afox at hsc.usc.edu afox at mediaone.net ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Tue Nov 23 05:59:40 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeffrey Galin) Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 23:59:40 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth In-Reply-To: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE779EB3E@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Message-ID: Klaus, I'm not sure what information you are seeking. Without servicing the machine, we wouldn't know which modifications it needs. Some are Nakamichi's and some are ours. Sincerely, Jeffrey Galin 860-529-3700 M-F 8am to 6pm EST USA eslabs at prodigy.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com] On Behalf Of Fendt Klaus Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 3:33 AM To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Subject: AW: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth Jeffrey, can you explain more details about auto azimuth upgrade modifications? What can be done to the DRAGON machine (my one's serial number is 08717 and it is about 13 years old). Unfortunately I reside in Germany so I think it is very expensive to send it half around the world to get it serviced . . . Klaus > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Jeff Galin [SMTP:eslabs at prodigy.net] > Gesendet am: Dienstag, 16. November 1999 17:03 > An: naktalk at naks.com > Betreff: Re: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth > > This is a common problem. Does your machine have all the auto azimuth > up-grade modifications? Well experienced Nakamichi authorized servicers > should be aware of the up-dates. > > Jeffrey Galin > > ELECTRONICS SERVICE LABS > www.eslabs.com or eslabs at prodigy.net > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 1999 10:08 AM > Subject: [naktalk] Dragon auto-azimuth > > > > The auto azimuth light on my Dragon never stops blinking when the tape > is > > playing unless there is a silent space on the tape. I used to be able > to > > hear the azimuth adjusting, but I cannot anymore. I just had the Dragon > > serviced by Steven Sank, a few months ago and he did an excellent job. > This > > started to happen about a month (and twenty tape recordings) after the > > service, but I cleaned the heads and it was fixed. Now even cleaning > the > > heads does not work. > > > > Does anyone know what this problem is and how to fix it? I would like > to > > avoid shipping the Dragon out again. Any input at all would be greatly > > appreciated. > > > > You can e-mail me back at jrdcesq at aol.com > > > > Thank you in advance for your help. > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > == > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > == > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From HWBossHoss at aol.com Thu Nov 25 16:44:18 1999 From: HWBossHoss at aol.com (HWBossHoss at aol.com) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 10:44:18 EST Subject: [naktalk] FOR SALE: Nak BX-150, CHEAP! Message-ID: <0.b8982e4b.256eb352@aol.com> Hello All! I have a Nakamichi BX-150 that is for sale. Excellent condition, but it needs an idler replacement (approximately a $90 repair) before it will work properly. MAKE OFFER!!! REPLY TO: HWBossHoss at aol.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From roholidays at netscape.net Thu Nov 25 18:17:05 1999 From: roholidays at netscape.net (alexander ionescu) Date: 25 Nov 99 09:17:05 PST Subject: [naktalk] Hello Carlos... Message-ID: <19991125171705.27013.qmail@www0l.netaddress.usa.net> "Carlos" wrote: Hello Larry: For me the Dragon is the best playback cassette deck in the world, period. No other deck can't beat her autoalingment mechanism and the sound is excellent. A 100% Nakamichi ! Best, Carlos Hello Carlos! I agree with you! I have a problem may be you can help me please... I have a Nak model : DR 3 Works for me very good, but somehow one engine has damaged..It is the one that move the role tape not the one that move the capestan. Can you tell me what kind of engine is? What voltage it has, and how much it will cost me? It has a long ax... Thank you anticipatelly,yours Alex ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From GriffithsLP1 at cf.ac.uk Thu Nov 25 18:40:53 1999 From: GriffithsLP1 at cf.ac.uk (Leslie Griffiths) Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 17:40:53 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re recording with or without dolby . Message-ID: this is to all you NAKHEADS. I HAVE RECENTLY BOUGHT A CR4A AND WAS WONDERING WHAT IS THE PREFERED RECORDING METHOD AND THE MOST PREFERED CHROME AND METAL TAPES USED all the best Les ************************ Mr. Leslie Griffiths School of Psychology Cardiff University Park Place PO Box 901 Cardiff CF1 3YG Tel: +44 1222 876733 Fax: +44 1222 874858 ************************ ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bochar at epix.net Fri Nov 26 06:39:55 1999 From: bochar at epix.net (bob) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:39:55 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re recording with or without dolby . References: Message-ID: <383E1D2B.72327B62@epix.net> Real pandora's box this... 1. If you like the cds recorded without dolby and that suits how you replay them in the car etc. that may be the way to go. Less headaches all around.... 2. No matter how you record, non, b, c, s, if the material has a lot of high end material or detail, you may want to put scotch tape over the holes in the back of a Type II tape and thus record it like a Type I ( this is recommended in old Nak manuals)...this gives you a little more noise. Of course, if you want it the other way around for a little less noise, more midrange stuff and slight rolloff of high end, do it the other way around... 3. If you have most of your stuff recorded in C for the high end system and home, it plays just about right in the car with a dolby b playback...this is because the high end is pushed up a bit (skewed) but overcomes the car noise very nicely. 4. And of course, we didn't get into dbx.... Good luck. bob /;o) Leslie Griffiths wrote: > > this is to all you NAKHEADS. > > > I HAVE RECENTLY BOUGHT A CR4A AND WAS WONDERING > WHAT IS THE PREFERED RECORDING METHOD AND THE > MOST PREFERED CHROME AND METAL TAPES USED > > > all the best Les > > ************************ > Mr. Leslie Griffiths > School of Psychology > Cardiff University > Park Place > PO Box 901 > Cardiff CF1 3YG > Tel: +44 1222 876733 > Fax: +44 1222 874858 > ************************ > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From brianwinans at hotmail.com Fri Nov 26 09:57:15 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 08:57:15 GMT Subject: [naktalk] Re recording with or without dolby . Message-ID: <19991126085715.98623.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey Bob, You are right, this is really a Pandora's box. I have two BX-300's, and I love the recordings they make without any kind of Dolby at all. I have found out that Type II TDK tapes sound the best(without any bias tunning), and Type II Maxell sounds really good with the bias tunned about half way down. That is just my opinion, my ears are not as "golden" as most of you out there, no offense, I am just jealous. :~) I have played around with the different bias settings and I have noticed that if you record a type II tape with the type I setting, that you do get more high end, but you get a hell of a lot more noise (hiss). Just the opposite goes for Dolby, the higher up you go, the more high end you loose. To sum it all up, I use TDK II's with no dolby, and it suits me just fine. The noise level is fine, and the bias is just right, plus you can listen to the tapes on other people's decks without the worry of Dolby mistracking. Again, I just want to say, that is my personal opinon, and I am sure others will disagree. Brian >From: bob >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re recording with or without dolby . >Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 00:39:55 -0500 > > >Real pandora's box this... >1. If you like the cds recorded without dolby and that suits how you >replay them in the car etc. that may be the way to go. >Less headaches all around.... > >2. No matter how you record, non, b, c, s, if the material has a lot of >high end material or detail, you may want to put scotch tape over the >holes in the back of a Type II tape and thus record it like a Type I ( >this is recommended in old Nak manuals)...this gives you a little more >noise. Of course, if you want it the other way around for a little less >noise, more midrange stuff and slight rolloff of high end, do it the >other way around... > 3. If you have most of your stuff recorded in C for the high end >system and home, it plays just about right in the car with a dolby b >playback...this is because the high end is pushed up a bit (skewed) but >overcomes the car noise very nicely. > 4. And of course, we didn't get into dbx.... >Good luck. >bob >/;o) >Leslie Griffiths wrote: > > > > this is to all you NAKHEADS. > > > > > > I HAVE RECENTLY BOUGHT A CR4A AND WAS WONDERING > > WHAT IS THE PREFERED RECORDING METHOD AND THE > > MOST PREFERED CHROME AND METAL TAPES USED > > > > > > all the best Les > > > > ************************ > > Mr. Leslie Griffiths > > School of Psychology > > Cardiff University > > Park Place > > PO Box 901 > > Cardiff CF1 3YG > > Tel: +44 1222 876733 > > Fax: +44 1222 874858 > > ************************ > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ><< bochar.vcf >> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From lwilliams at treb.com Fri Nov 26 18:51:27 1999 From: lwilliams at treb.com (Larry E. Williams) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:51:27 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] original manuals Message-ID: <383EC899.54BE7989@treb.com> I am trying to locate the original manuals for the following Nakamichi decks. LX-5, Nakamichi 600, 500 and The Dragon. I also want at least one sample of each of the Nakamichi tape brand. If you have any of these items and are willing to part with them send me your price to : lwilliams at treb.com. Aloha, Larry ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From cjsfeng at sfu.ca Fri Nov 26 21:08:37 1999 From: cjsfeng at sfu.ca (Desmond Hidson) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 12:08:37 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: recording with or without dolby . In-Reply-To: Message-ID: >this is to all you NAKHEADS. > > >I HAVE RECENTLY BOUGHT A CR4A nice !! > AND WAS WONDERING WHAT IS THE PREFERRED RECORDING METHOD a nebulous query Les, what do you mean by method. >AND THE MOST PREFERRED CHROME AND METAL TAPES USED I have found it to be an individual preference, however Nakamichi Canada informed me that for Type II calibration (Bias/eq) they use TDK SA. I can only assume they use TDK Type I and Type IV for normal and metal. My preference has been TDK SA or SA-X (extra dynamic range). Some like Maxell but if their tape is anything like their CDR's I wouldn't touch it. You could go to extreme and use TDK Pro, if you can find it. It comes is short lengths too. Ampex make a Type II. Here's a short story. I was looking for some Denon tapes only to discover their excellent tape had been discontinued. When I was at Western Imperial Magnetics in Richmond, B. C., they told me of a customer who would use no other tape than Denon, he tried others but was not satisfied, they gave him a sample of Ampex 467 (Type II, they only make the one). On return entered one happy camper, it's all he uses claiming it "better than the Denon". I bought two C-60's to try, I gave one to a poor musician friend - loved it. And my daughter scooped the other. I went back recently to get some C-90's, but they are now special order. For normal tape Sony Hi Fi is a good all round performer. I used to use TDK AD-X but it is no longer available. And before BASF took over Agfa, I would get Agfa Type I from Western Imperial Magnetics in a DMC cassette shell. Carlos I assume knows what they are. I have heard Type IV tape is abrasive and hard on heads. I think that the tape you use depends on where it is to be used. For example some car cassette players default to Type I playback, and do not have provision for Type II let alone Type IV. So a normal tape would work best, unless you like the sound of accentuated highs and rolled off bass, the sound one gets when reproducing a Type II tape in Type I position. I know some who do (tin ears). Also some player do not have Dolby, or if they do, only B. It is amazing how well the players that have Dolby, do track and repro Dolby encoded tapes. All one needs to do is turn up the treble if the sound is muddy, then the highs are back with silence in between, along with dynamics. If you are making tapes to be reproduced on machines other than your own you may not want to use Dolby, do a test to see if it decodes properly. Not all machines have "C". The proper method, so to speak, would be to choose a tape of each Type, based on quality, reputation, availability. Take/ship your machine and several samples of each Type to a Nakamichi recommended technician (with years of experience and Nakamichi calibration tapes) and get your machine fine tuned/calibrated. Be sure to supply the length you plan to use. The bias is different between C-60's and C-90's - tape thickness. However once done you can use your bias control to trim accordingly. Or send your machine to Stephen Sank. He charges a flat rate of $90 for complete calibration & maintenance. Uses strictly Nakamichi test tapes, jigs & the Nak T-100 audio analyser (besides the usual test equip). And get this, he holds to a tolerance of within 0.1 percent, five times tighter than the factory. Plus, he calibrates to "reference level", i.e., what goes in is what comes out, precisely. FYI: Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] Good luck .... Cheers Des ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From targowski at mediaone.net Fri Nov 26 23:06:07 1999 From: targowski at mediaone.net (targowski) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 16:06:07 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Re: recording with or without dolby . References: Message-ID: <383F044F.DEAE6C0C@mediaone.net> CR4A has a built in calibration system for bias (15Khz) and level (400Hz). You should be able to calibrate the unit to any decent tape on the market, without the need to send it anywhere for calibration (unless the unit is miscalibrated in the first place). As far as tapes go, I would simply stick to TDK SA or SA-X, or Maxell XLII or XLIIS. Another option is TDK MA, and Maxell MX-S. To Dolby or not to Dolby, this question may start a thread longer than digital vs. analogue. If you would be recording and listenning on the CR-4, my advise is to simply experiment and trust your ears. If you are recording for others, for car, etc., may want to stick to Dolby B, or no Dolby. Stan Desmond Hidson wrote: > >this is to all you NAKHEADS. > > > > > >I HAVE RECENTLY BOUGHT A CR4A > > nice !! > > > AND WAS WONDERING WHAT IS THE PREFERRED RECORDING METHOD > > a nebulous query Les, what do you mean by method. > > >AND THE MOST PREFERRED CHROME AND METAL TAPES USED > > I have found it to be an individual preference, however Nakamichi Canada > informed me that for Type II calibration (Bias/eq) they use TDK SA. I can > only assume they use TDK Type I and Type IV for normal and metal. > > My preference has been TDK SA or SA-X (extra dynamic range). Some like > Maxell but if their tape is anything like their CDR's I wouldn't touch it. > You could go to extreme and use TDK Pro, if you can find it. It comes is > short lengths too. > > Ampex make a Type II. > > Here's a short story. I was looking for some Denon tapes only to discover > their excellent tape had been discontinued. When I was at Western Imperial > Magnetics in Richmond, B. C., they told me of a customer who would use no > other tape than Denon, he tried others but was not satisfied, they gave him > a sample of Ampex 467 (Type II, they only make the one). On return entered > one happy camper, it's all he uses claiming it "better than the Denon". > > I bought two C-60's to try, I gave one to a poor musician friend - loved > it. And my daughter scooped the other. I went back recently to get some > C-90's, but they are now special order. > > For normal tape Sony Hi Fi is a good all round performer. I used to use TDK > AD-X but it is no longer available. And before BASF took over Agfa, I would > get Agfa Type I from Western Imperial Magnetics in a DMC cassette shell. > > Carlos I assume knows what they are. > > I have heard Type IV tape is abrasive and hard on heads. > > I think that the tape you use depends on where it is to be used. > For example some car cassette players default to Type I playback, and do > not have provision for Type II let alone Type IV. So a normal tape would > work best, unless you like the sound of accentuated highs and rolled off > bass, the sound one gets when reproducing a Type II tape in Type I > position. I know some who do (tin ears). > > Also some player do not have Dolby, or if they do, only B. It is amazing > how well the players that have Dolby, do track and repro Dolby encoded > tapes. All one needs to do is turn up the treble if the sound is muddy, > then the highs are back with silence in between, along with dynamics. > > If you are making tapes to be reproduced on machines other than your own > you may not want to use Dolby, do a test to see if it decodes properly. Not > all machines have "C". > > The proper method, so to speak, would be to choose a tape of each Type, > based on quality, reputation, availability. Take/ship your machine and > several samples of each Type to a Nakamichi recommended technician (with > years of experience and Nakamichi calibration tapes) and get your machine > fine tuned/calibrated. > > Be sure to supply the length you plan to use. The bias is different between > C-60's and C-90's - tape thickness. However once done you can use your bias > control to trim accordingly. > > Or send your machine to Stephen Sank. > He charges a flat rate of $90 for complete calibration & maintenance. Uses > strictly Nakamichi test tapes, jigs & the Nak T-100 audio analyser (besides > the usual test equip). > And get this, he holds to a tolerance of within 0.1 percent, five times > tighter than the factory. > Plus, he calibrates to "reference level", i.e., what goes in is what comes > out, precisely. > > FYI: > > Stephen Sank, Owner > Champlain Valley Speaker Company > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. > Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] > > Good luck .... > > Cheers > > Des > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From cjsfeng at sfu.ca Sat Nov 27 00:36:00 1999 From: cjsfeng at sfu.ca (Desmond Hidson) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 15:36:00 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Ampex Type II casette tape Message-ID: <383F195F.FBD32D13@sfu.ca> Hi Nakamaniacs .... I made an error regarding Ampex cassette tape. It is Ampex 472 not 467 (where I got that number from ....?) Cheers Des ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sat Nov 27 05:16:54 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:16:54 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXL Manual References: <0.fbcceded.253e9cbb@aol.com> Message-ID: <006501bf388e$4198aee0$1e2f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello: To all those fellow Nak users that send me a contribution in order to copy the Nak 700 ZXL Service Manual, I have to inform that the copies been made and are ready to send next week. It was very time consuming and difficult due to the schematic pages size. This means that after this set, no further copies will be made. SORRY ! Best, Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From tidybear at juno.com Sat Nov 27 18:17:40 1999 From: tidybear at juno.com (tidybear at juno.com) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 09:17:40 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] for sale HIGH COM References: <0.fbcceded.253e9cbb@aol.com> <006501bf388e$4198aee0$1e2f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <19991127.091740.3574.0.tidybear@juno.com> hello, I have a Nakamichi High com II external unit noise reduction/dymamic extander unit for sell. it will work with all kind of machine. it is in mint- condition and fully working , nice and clean with original papers and manual the price is --$275-plus shipping (i am in usa) if anyone were interested. please reply me back at tidybear at juno.com mike thanks for checking it out ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bohnen at unixg.ubc.ca Sun Nov 28 02:04:00 1999 From: bohnen at unixg.ubc.ca (Aaron Bohnen) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:04:00 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] FS: Nak Cassette Deck 2 in pristine condition: $US 225 Message-ID: Hi everyone, I am selling my Nak Cassette Deck 2. It is truly superb shape - not a single scratch or ding anywhere on it. I don't want to oversell it but I honestly have never seen another one as good as this except when I saw them brand new on the shelf. This unit has very low hours also. The transport is far smoother than my LX-5. I have the original owner's manual with the deck as well. Some Nakker is going to get a remarkably nice example of the Cassette Deck 2. Price: $US 225 and shipping from Vancouver, B.C. More information can be seen on Wouter's superb site: "http://www.naks.com" - just press NAKS on the left then scroll down on the right and click "Cassette Deck" when you see it. I can also email digital pictures if anyone is interested. best regards to all, Aaron ___________________________________________________________ Aaron Bohnen email: bohnen at unixg.ubc.ca -Ph.D. Student, Civil Engineering Department, U.B.C. -website: http://www.civil.ubc.ca/home/bohnen ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From dupont at digizen.net Sun Nov 28 05:26:03 1999 From: dupont at digizen.net (George and Barbara Dupont) Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:26:03 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: FS: Nakamichi DRAGON tape deck! mint] Message-ID: <3840AEDB.5449D3CD@digizen.net> -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: sven101 at aol.com (Sven101) Subject: FS: Nakamichi DRAGON tape deck! mint Date: 28 Nov 1999 02:11:26 GMT Size: 581 URL: From eknath58 at hotmail.com Sun Nov 28 12:22:45 1999 From: eknath58 at hotmail.com (Eknath Ullikashi) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 03:22:45 PST Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: FS: Nakamichi DRAGON tape deck! mint] Message-ID: <19991128112250.13338.qmail@hotmail.com> Are you interested to send it to India? Eknath Ullikashi eknath58 at hotmail.com >From: George and Barbara Dupont >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk >Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: FS: Nakamichi DRAGON tape deck! mint] >Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 23:26:03 -0500 > > ><< message3.txt >> ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From roholidays at netscape.net Mon Nov 29 02:32:42 1999 From: roholidays at netscape.net (alexander ionescu) Date: 28 Nov 99 17:32:42 PST Subject: [[naktalk] [Fwd: FS: Nakamichi DRAGON tape deck! mint]] Message-ID: <19991129013242.10794.qmail@www0c.netaddress.usa.net> I'm interested Please tell me are you living in an European country or not? Alex. My e-mail adress is:holidays at pcnet.ro George and Barbara Dupont wrote: > --------------------------------------------- > Attachment:�Forwarded Message > MIME Type:�message/rfc822 > --------------------------------------------- ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From roy.svensson at hdk.gu.se Mon Nov 29 16:01:11 1999 From: roy.svensson at hdk.gu.se (roy.svensson at hdk.gu.se) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:01:11 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL manual Message-ID: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> Hello Carlos I have just sent you $25.00 by post as payment for the 700 ZXL manual. Best regards Roy Svensson Sjomansgatan 8 B S-413 15 Gothenburg Sweden ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From magic at bdg.centrin.net.id Tue Nov 30 04:53:07 1999 From: magic at bdg.centrin.net.id (Jo Jo) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 10:53:07 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: FS: Nakamichi DRAGON tape deck! mint] References: <3840AEDB.5449D3CD@digizen.net> Message-ID: <003301bf3ae6$6c01a740$8cf692ca@centrin.net.id> Sorry, can you tell me, what do you mean by "mint condition" ? Thank you very much for it. Jo Jo - bssm at ibm.net ----- Original Message ----- From: George and Barbara Dupont To: naktalk Sent: Sunday, November 28, 1999 11:26 AM Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: FS: Nakamichi DRAGON tape deck! mint] > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\1999\1999-12.txt ************************************************************************ From jazzisjazz at mindspring.com Wed Dec 1 18:16:22 1999 From: jazzisjazz at mindspring.com (Stanley P. Pickens) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 12:16:22 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re recording with or without dolby . Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19991201171622.006b4ec0@pop.mindspring.com> Hi All, I would like to know if I can safely use a nak ad-550u power pack with primary ac 120v,60hz,15w- secondary dc 12v,500ma to power a mx100 mic mixer +/- 10v,50ma Thanks, Stan ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Wed Dec 1 19:43:31 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 11:43:31 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Re recording with or without dolby . References: <1.5.4.32.19991201171622.006b4ec0@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: <38456C53.93EED1D6@emall-online.com> NO!! They are completely incompatible. You either need a PS-100 power supply or an old Nak deck with a "black box output" jack. The only other option is to have a custom supply built, which is something I can do for $100 for AC-powered, $75 for battery powered. "Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > Hi All, > > I would like to know if I can safely use a nak ad-550u power pack with primary > ac 120v,60hz,15w- secondary dc 12v,500ma to power a mx100 mic mixer +/- 10v,50ma > > Thanks, > > Stan > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -- Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From NakamiKaze at hotmail.com Thu Dec 2 00:37:09 1999 From: NakamiKaze at hotmail.com (Matyas) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 00:37:09 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] 700II service manual? References: <199910200010.CAA30924@zebra.naks.com> <001501bf1aa2$738b5b00$0100a8c0@office> <380D5347.DAE98522@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <19991201234215.13169.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi Stephen Inspired by the message below, I wonder if I can hope an emailed scan of the service manual of the Nak 600II you probably have it... The 600II i wish to repair have a problem of transport ; In a normal behaviour, the lone motor must run a different speed for each transport mode (play , ffw) and more : run into the reverse direction for the rewind mode. This rewind mode in the 600II was certainly overused because of the calibration abilities of this 2 head deck. It was given to me to see this deck working fine about...6 hours,only. After this blessed moment, the deck beginned to make noises, and stops itself. From then on, the motor run reverse since the power is on, and when you want to play , the motor just stops. I need perhaps some help if the problem is not simply the position indicators switches whom are oxidized or dusty or whatever... -Did the supply reel (assy?) is still available ? (ruined beltlike rubber round) or this beltlike round ? PS : tomorow I will bought a 480 Z without pressure pad lifter. Can you tell me the Nakamichi reference number for this part ? Does it hard to find, what about the price? Best regards, Keep the Firebreath wild ! Matyas , Switzerland ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Sank To: Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 6:29 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] 700II service manual? > I have the alignment/calibration pages of the 700, which are virtually > identical to the 700-II's, scanned & zipped on my shop hard drive that I > can email to you or whoever needs them. Just email me during daylight > hours so that I get your reply on the shop computer. > > Stephen Sank > Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / 7611 > Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > Erie Patsellis wrote: > > > > Carlos, et al... > > > > does anyone have a 700II service manual? > > I need to clean & recal, and it has been quite some time. > > > > on a similar note, does anyone know a supplier > > that can lap heads reasonably? > > > > erie > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Thu Dec 2 03:36:41 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Wed, 01 Dec 1999 19:36:41 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] 700II service manual? References: <199910200010.CAA30924@zebra.naks.com> <001501bf1aa2$738b5b00$0100a8c0@office> <380D5347.DAE98522@emall-online.com> <19991201234215.13169.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3845DB39.4B8565C7@emall-online.com> The 480Z Pad Lifter is part # OC08216B. Should be available & should be dirt cheap. As for the 600II, I am afraid I don't have a service manual for either I or II models. Jeff Galin, who also participates in Naktalk, should have it, so you could ask him to scan it for you. I can tell you that the reel tables, and just about everything else, are no longer available, but you should be able to replace the rubber with an appropriate size square-cut belt. Just take some measurements & seek a generic parts distributor, such as mcmelectronics.com in this country. The motor problem is may in fact be caused by a bent or damaged leaf switch on the bottom side of the mechanism. Visual examination, especially while operating the buttons, should reveal this easily, and it should be easy to fix. It actually sounds like a likely cause. The other possibilties are a motor servo/control problem or, worst case, a bad motor, which nails the coffin shut on the unit. Check the switches, then see if you can get the servo schematics from Jeff. Matyas wrote: > > Hi Stephen > Inspired by the message below, I wonder if I can hope an emailed scan of the > service manual of the Nak 600II > you probably have it... > The 600II i wish to repair have a problem of transport ; > In a normal behaviour, the lone motor must > run a different speed for each transport mode (play , ffw) and more : run > into the reverse direction for the rewind mode. > This rewind mode in the 600II was certainly overused because of the > calibration abilities of this 2 head deck. > It was given to me to see this deck working fine about...6 hours,only. After > this blessed moment, the deck beginned to make > noises, and stops itself. From then on, the motor run reverse since the > power is on, and when you want to play , the motor just stops. > I need perhaps some help if the problem is not simply the position > indicators switches > whom are oxidized or dusty or whatever... > -Did the supply reel (assy?) is still available ? (ruined beltlike rubber > round) or this beltlike round ? > > PS : tomorow I will bought a 480 Z without pressure pad lifter. Can you tell > me the Nakamichi reference number for this > part ? Does it hard to find, what about the price? > Best regards, > Keep the Firebreath wild ! > Matyas , Switzerland > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Sank > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 6:29 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 700II service manual? > > > I have the alignment/calibration pages of the 700, which are virtually > > identical to the 700-II's, scanned & zipped on my shop hard drive that I > > can email to you or whoever needs them. Just email me during daylight > > hours so that I get your reply on the shop computer. > > > > Stephen Sank > > Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / 7611 > > Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > Erie Patsellis wrote: > > > > > > Carlos, et al... > > > > > > does anyone have a 700II service manual? > > > I need to clean & recal, and it has been quite some time. > > > > > > on a similar note, does anyone know a supplier > > > that can lap heads reasonably? > > > > > > erie > > > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -- Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From GriffithsLP1 at cf.ac.uk Thu Dec 2 13:03:58 1999 From: GriffithsLP1 at cf.ac.uk (Leslie Griffiths) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 12:03:58 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Re recording with or without dolby . Message-ID: <3F4A308E3@MAINCF2M.CF.AC.UK> hello steven. 1. what is a black box and what does it do. 2. can it be used with a CR4A. on another note; is it beneficial to have an external power supply fitted to the CR4A. all the best les ************************ Mr. Leslie Griffiths School of Psychology Cardiff University Park Place PO Box 901 Cardiff CF1 3YG Tel: +44 1222 876733 Fax: +44 1222 874858 ************************ ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Thu Dec 2 16:40:48 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeff Galin) Date: Thu, 2 Dec 1999 10:40:48 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi spare parts References: <199910200010.CAA30924@zebra.naks.com> <001501bf1aa2$738b5b00$0100a8c0@office> <380D5347.DAE98522@emall-online.com> <19991201234215.13169.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <005e01bf3cdf$a64e8300$31469cd1@jeffery> Matyas, I have all the rubber parts for your Nakamichi in stock. I am not set up to email the diagram. I can send a copy with the parts. Sincerely, Jeffrey Galin eslabs at prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Matyas To: ; Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] 700II service manual? > Hi Stephen > Inspired by the message below, I wonder if I can hope an emailed scan of the > service manual of the Nak 600II > you probably have it... > The 600II i wish to repair have a problem of transport ; > In a normal behaviour, the lone motor must > run a different speed for each transport mode (play , ffw) and more : run > into the reverse direction for the rewind mode. > This rewind mode in the 600II was certainly overused because of the > calibration abilities of this 2 head deck. > It was given to me to see this deck working fine about...6 hours,only. After > this blessed moment, the deck beginned to make > noises, and stops itself. From then on, the motor run reverse since the > power is on, and when you want to play , the motor just stops. > I need perhaps some help if the problem is not simply the position > indicators switches > whom are oxidized or dusty or whatever... > -Did the supply reel (assy?) is still available ? (ruined beltlike rubber > round) or this beltlike round ? > > PS : tomorow I will bought a 480 Z without pressure pad lifter. Can you tell > me the Nakamichi reference number for this > part ? Does it hard to find, what about the price? > Best regards, > Keep the Firebreath wild ! > Matyas , Switzerland > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Sank > To: > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 6:29 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 700II service manual? > > > > I have the alignment/calibration pages of the 700, which are virtually > > identical to the 700-II's, scanned & zipped on my shop hard drive that I > > can email to you or whoever needs them. Just email me during daylight > > hours so that I get your reply on the shop computer. > > > > Stephen Sank > > Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / 7611 > > Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / > > 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > Erie Patsellis wrote: > > > > > > Carlos, et al... > > > > > > does anyone have a 700II service manual? > > > I need to clean & recal, and it has been quite some time. > > > > > > on a similar note, does anyone know a supplier > > > that can lap heads reasonably? > > > > > > erie > > > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Thu Dec 2 20:05:46 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Thu, 02 Dec 1999 12:05:46 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Re recording with or without dolby . References: <3F4A308E3@MAINCF2M.CF.AC.UK> Message-ID: <3846C30A.2E541275@emall-online.com> You must know that. The black box is the thing that they pull out of you tape deck after you crash it into the side of a mountain. I thought I saw this question answered previously, but anyway... The Black Boxes were a brief series of accessory units from the early '80's. They were, if I can remember them all, the MX-100 mic mixer, EC-100 2-way electronic crossover, BA-100 amp bridging adaptor, MB-150 MC phono head amp, SF-100 subsonic filter and PS-100 power supply(for those who had decks that lacked the black box power output jack). The MX-100 & PS-100 continued production until the early '90's, with the Dragon being the only deck produced after about 1984 with the black box power output jack. As for external power supply for the CR-4A, I don't see it providing any audible benefit until one does a whole lot of improvement to the component & wiring quality in the signal circuits. Even then, it would probably be pretty darn hard to tell a difference. Very expensive proposition in all. Leslie Griffiths wrote: > > hello steven. > > 1. what is a black box and what does it do. > 2. can it be used with a CR4A. > > on another note; is it beneficial to have an > external power supply fitted to the CR4A. > > all the best les > > ************************ > Mr. Leslie Griffiths > School of Psychology > Cardiff University > Park Place > PO Box 901 > Cardiff CF1 3YG > Tel: +44 1222 876733 > Fax: +44 1222 874858 > ************************ > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -- Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bochar at epix.net Sat Dec 4 03:25:26 1999 From: bochar at epix.net (bob) Date: Fri, 03 Dec 1999 21:25:26 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re recording with or without dolby . References: <1.5.4.32.19991201171622.006b4ec0@pop.mindspring.com> <38456C53.93EED1D6@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <38487B96.99F91D34@epix.net> I have a like new PS-100 power supply in box, which I bought in anticipation of getting a X-0, but it never happened. If anyone wants it, it is $40 ppd. from Reading, Pa. thanks bob Stephen Sank2 wrote: > > NO!! They are completely incompatible. You either need a PS-100 power > supply or an old Nak deck with a "black box output" jack. The only > other option is to have a custom supply built, which is something I can > do for $100 for AC-powered, $75 for battery powered. > > "Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > > > > Hi All, > > > > I would like to know if I can safely use a nak ad-550u power pack with primary > > ac 120v,60hz,15w- secondary dc 12v,500ma to power a mx100 mic mixer +/- 10v,50ma > > > > Thanks, > > > > Stan > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > -- > Stephen Sank, Owner > Champlain Valley Speaker Company > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. > Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] > phone/fax 505-296-8795 > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From george.m.hook at ac.com Mon Dec 6 22:57:59 1999 From: george.m.hook at ac.com (george.m.hook at ac.com) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 1999 15:57:59 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Two head nak decks Message-ID: <8625683F.00781F22.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> Can anyone out there give me some basic tips on recording cassettes? I am the proud owner of a Nakamichi Cassette Deck 2 that produces fabulous, rich sound. I like to dub pre-recorded cassettes and CDs. My second tape deck is a NAD 602 (a pretty decent machine, but without the subtleties of the Nak) and the CD player is NAD 512. Dubbing the pre-recorded cassettes is my major concern. I seem to be recording too much bass response, and I want to increase the volume so I can listen to the tapes on my Sony Walkman, without having to turn the volume all the way up. Can I regulate bass response by turning down the bass on the amplifier (NAD 312) or turn up the treble? Or, can any of the controls on the Nak (for example, the bias control) be adjusted for better sound? Also, when I record vinyl, should I turn off the Dolby? I realize these are basic questions, but I am just now toying with fine-tuning my recording methods. Speaking of basic questions, I am often asked, as an audiophile, what equipment I recommend from time to time. But the questioners are generally not up on high-end music appreciation (pity them, for not comprehending the joy of the Nak). So I field questions about Sony, Aiwa, or JVC mini-systems--your basic Best Buy stock in trade. Any thoughts out there about what sounds the best among these, admittedly, bland sound equipments? I still like the Sony Walkman, though. Cheers, George ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Dec 7 19:34:40 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:34:40 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL manual References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> Got it ! Thank you. Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 29, 1999 10:01 AM Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 700 ZXL manual > Hello Carlos > > I have just sent you $25.00 by post as payment > for the 700 ZXL manual. > > Best regards > > Roy Svensson > Sjomansgatan 8 B > S-413 15 Gothenburg > Sweden > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Thu Dec 9 23:08:22 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 00:08:22 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 600II References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Greetings, Nak-people! Just got Nak 600II, and pealy impressed with this unit - both performance and apearance. I've heard that it's part of System One. I would like to get more info about this system - any info will be appreciated. Michael Kiev, Ukraine ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From szollos at it.cas.cz Fri Dec 10 14:30:54 1999 From: szollos at it.cas.cz (Andras Szollos) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 14:30:54 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] (no subject) References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <3851008E.98D4D1D9@it.cas.cz> Hello Nak-fans! I would like to buy an older model: either 682ZX or ZX7. Can anyone tell me, where to get these in Germany? Many thanks, András Szöllös. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Fri Dec 10 10:56:56 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 09:56:56 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Other System One Components References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <3850CE68.22C7@bestweb.net> Michael, System One consisted of several components all styled very similarly to the 600 and 600II cassette decks: There was the 610 preamp, the 620 amp, and the 630 tuner/preamp, which had a large retro-looking circular tuning dial. There was also a timer that went with this system, which was basically identical to the the DS 200. I have an old Nak brochure which displays Nak peripheral equipment. It shows a rack that was specifically designed to hold the System One components, including the timer. All of the 600 units displayed together like that presented a very dramatic and imposing image. This bunch of stuff looked like it meant business... Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Fri Dec 10 19:56:42 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeff Galin) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 13:56:42 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi cassette decks for sale References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> <3851008E.98D4D1D9@it.cas.cz> Message-ID: <001701bf4340$a5715860$56449cd1@jeffery> This is the list of Nakamichi decks we have for sale; ZX-9 $1000 EXC. Condition ZX-7 $800 EXC. Condition 670ZX $750 EXC. Condition but cosmetics not perfect DR-10 $699 FACTORY NEW and tweaked by our experts 482 $650 EXC. Condition RX-202 $600 EXC. Condition All of the used decks have been overhauled by our Nakamichi experts and come with a 1 year warranty, just like when they were new !! We have many assorted accessories and parts in stock. Others are available through us from Nakamichi. I have been doing Nakamichi factory authorized warranty service for over 25 years and have been to Nakamichi in Japan. We accept VISA, M/C and DISCOVER (NOVUS). Please call us for a secure transaction and obtain shipping and handling costs at (860)529-3700 M-F 8am-6pm EST. Sincerely, Jeffrey Galin www.eslabs.com eslabs at prodigy.net Nakamichi Serviced Here ELECTRONICS SERVICED LABS 1807 Berlin Turnpike Wethersfield, CT 06109-1323 ----- Original Message ----- From: Andras Szollos To: Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 8:30 AM Subject: [naktalk] (no subject) Hello Nak-fans! I would like to buy an older model: either 682ZX or ZX7. Can anyone tell me, where to get these in Germany? Many thanks, András Szöllös. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Dec 10 20:55:21 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 19:55:21 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Is there a UK version of Stephen Sank??? In-Reply-To: <3846C30A.2E541275@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <000901bf4348$7d82e5a0$a636883e@a4s1s2> Well chaps? Is there? I need to know because I had to pass up an opprtunity to buy a 700ZXL for £450 because it needs a service and the UK Nak Service Centre said they could not do a full service (because many parts are no longer available), nor would they guarantee their work. I just don't have so much money I can risk losing £450 on a puppy! (If it weren't for a few 1,000 miles and an great big ocean getting in the way, I'd have bought it and walked to the SS workshop with it!) Graham PS Don't fancy opening a workshop over here, do you Stephen? With your application of good "customer service", you'd clean up all the business!! ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Fri Dec 10 23:03:16 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 15:03:16 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Is there a UK version of Stephen Sank??? References: <000901bf4348$7d82e5a0$a636883e@a4s1s2> Message-ID: <385178A4.B2AA28DE@emall-online.com> Fly me over! I'd love it. Graham Nelson wrote: > > Well chaps? Is there? I need to know because I had to pass up an > opprtunity to buy a 700ZXL for £450 because it needs a service and the UK > Nak Service Centre said they could not do a full service (because many parts > are no longer available), nor would they guarantee their work. I just don't > have so much money I can risk losing £450 on a puppy! > > (If it weren't for a few 1,000 miles and an great big ocean getting in the > way, I'd have bought it and walked to the SS workshop with it!) > > Graham > > PS > > Don't fancy opening a workshop over here, do you Stephen? With your > application of good "customer service", you'd clean up all the business!! > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -- Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Fri Dec 10 23:38:56 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 00:38:56 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Other System One Components References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> <3850CE68.22C7@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <014e01bf435f$5944d2e0$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Tom, Is there any chance to get a *.jpg or *.tif file with scaned picture of this system? Some pages from Nak broshure? Michael ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Fri Dec 10 23:58:06 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 1999 22:58:06 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Other System One Components References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> <3850CE68.22C7@bestweb.net> <014e01bf435f$5944d2e0$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <3851857E.69C0@bestweb.net> Michael, The best I can do is mail you a xerox of the brochure pic. It's a small black and white pic, so you won't really be losing too much picture quality. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From rxtellez at rota.med.navy.mil Sat Dec 11 08:25:38 1999 From: rxtellez at rota.med.navy.mil (Tellez, Raul) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 08:25:38 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Other System One Components Message-ID: <3552BC4041EAD111826100A02475F2F00134DA62@nh-rota-exch1.med.navy.mil> I can include that brochure in the next batch of manuals that I send to Winfried in Austria for scanning. Raul -----Original Message----- From: MVM [mailto:MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua] Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 11:39 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Other System One Components Tom, Is there any chance to get a *.jpg or *.tif file with scaned picture of this system? Some pages from Nak broshure? Michael ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Dec 11 15:16:46 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:16:46 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Is there a UK version of Stephen Sank??? In-Reply-To: <385178A4.B2AA28DE@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <000e01bf43e2$5b5c2aa0$0657883e@a4s1s2> Stephen If I could afford to fly you over, I'd fly the deck to you instead!! {:¬ ) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Stephen Sank2 > Sent: 10 December 1999 22:03 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Is there a UK version of Stephen Sank??? > > > Fly me over! I'd love it. > > Graham Nelson wrote: > > > > Well chaps? Is there? ....... > > ....... (If it weren't for a few 1,000 miles and an great big ocean > getting in the > > way, I'd have bought it and walked to the SS workshop with it!) > > > > Graham > > > > PS > > > > Don't fancy opening a workshop over here, do you Stephen? With your > > application of good "customer service", you'd clean up all the > business!! > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > -- > Stephen Sank, Owner > Champlain Valley Speaker Company > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. > Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] > phone/fax 505-296-8795 > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Sat Dec 11 15:42:49 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 16:42:49 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Other System One Components References: <3552BC4041EAD111826100A02475F2F00134DA62@nh-rota-exch1.med.navy.mil> Message-ID: <003501bf43e6$00d59680$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Hi Raul, Please, tell Winfried to send service manuals directly to me, instead of resending it around the world :) Thanks for your support. And just in case - do you have Service Manual for 600II? Looks like I need it. ^ I can include that brochure in the next batch of manuals that ^ I send to Winfried in Austria for scanning. ^ ^ ^ Raul ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Sat Dec 11 15:52:41 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 16:52:41 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 700 bias adjustment - question for Stephen Sank References: <000901bf4348$7d82e5a0$a636883e@a4s1s2> <385178A4.B2AA28DE@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <006301bf43e7$6163cca0$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Hi everyone and especialy Stephen! I just got enough time to get inside of my 700 with both hands and iron :) I notice strange style of regulating BIAS. Was it done with purpose, or it's just an "old" style? As I understand it, adjusting one channel will affect other, plus it will affect erasing bias. So I'm planning to change it for more common scheme, put variable resistor pot instead of constant resistor in a bias line, and vice versa with variable resistor wich connect oscilator output to the ground. Sorry for hazy description but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Thanks! Michael Kiev, Ukraine ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Sat Dec 11 22:19:35 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:19:35 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Is there a UK version of Stephen Sank??? References: <000e01bf43e2$5b5c2aa0$0657883e@a4s1s2> Message-ID: <3852BFE7.C31AFFFE@emall-online.com> Well, hey, you know, if you get a bunch of Nak friends together that also need decks worked on.... Graham Nelson wrote: > > Stephen > > If I could afford to fly you over, I'd fly the deck to you instead!! > {:¬ ) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > Stephen Sank2 > > Sent: 10 December 1999 22:03 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Is there a UK version of Stephen Sank??? > > > > > > Fly me over! I'd love it. > > > > Graham Nelson wrote: > > > > > > Well chaps? Is there? ....... > > > ....... (If it weren't for a few 1,000 miles and an great big ocean > > getting in the > > > way, I'd have bought it and walked to the SS workshop with it!) > > > > > > Graham > > > > > > PS > > > > > > Don't fancy opening a workshop over here, do you Stephen? With your > > > application of good "customer service", you'd clean up all the > > business!! > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > > Cassette Deck resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > > > -- > > Stephen Sank, Owner > > Champlain Valley Speaker Company > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > > 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. > > Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] > > phone/fax 505-296-8795 > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > > Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -- Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Sat Dec 11 22:26:28 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 14:26:28 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] 700 bias adjustment - question for Stephen Sank References: <000901bf4348$7d82e5a0$a636883e@a4s1s2> <385178A4.B2AA28DE@emall-online.com> <006301bf43e7$6163cca0$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <3852C184.1F7FA3BB@emall-online.com> Actually, it sounds like you are not getting full amplitude out of the oscillator. Normally, one channel may affect the other a small amount, but erase level is never affected. If you can, you'll need to check to see if you have proper 105kHz & if your DC level on C351 is maintaining at least 12V. I think we already discussed replacing all of the film caps in the circuit, so I assume you've done that. MVM wrote: > > Hi everyone and especialy Stephen! > > I just got enough time to get inside of my 700 with both hands and iron :) > I notice strange style of regulating BIAS. Was it done with purpose, > or it's just an "old" style? As I understand it, adjusting one channel will > affect other, > plus it will affect erasing bias. So I'm planning to change it for more > common > scheme, put variable resistor pot instead of constant resistor in a bias > line, and > vice versa with variable resistor wich connect oscilator output to the > ground. > Sorry for hazy description but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. > > Thanks! > > Michael > Kiev, Ukraine > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -- Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sun Dec 12 01:02:07 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 16:02:07 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] RX-505 Brochure Message-ID: Holiday Greetings! I'm looking for someone who is willing to exchange or sell an original copy of the Nakamichi RX-505 sales brochure. This is the black front cover version with an image of the cassette deck at the lower portion of the page. I'm the owner of RX-505 & 202 decks, and currently building a modest informational website for classic Nak gear; The RX-505 brochure info will be an excellent addition to the website! I currently have extra original copies of the RX-202 and DR1/2/3 cassette deck brochures that I'm willing to exchange for a copy of the RX-505 brochure. Anyone in NakTalk land interested in a swap? Got a copy to sell?? Kindly contact me directly....... K.J. Parsons Madison, WI USA --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stimpson at gte.net Sun Dec 12 02:03:36 1999 From: stimpson at gte.net (stimpson at gte.net) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 19:03:36 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] RX-505 Brochure Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19991212010336.0069b984@mail.gte.net> I just got your message and I am interested in purchasing (2) RX-505's if the price is right and they are in mint condition. If you can ever locate two of these in the next two weeks, please let me know and I will make an attempt to purchase if all is well. Thanks. Dennis Stimpson At 04:02 PM 12/11/99 -0800, you wrote: >Holiday Greetings! I'm looking for someone who is willing to exchange or sell an original copy of the Nakamichi RX-505 sales brochure. This is the black front cover version with an image of the cassette deck at the lower portion of the page. I'm the owner of RX-505 & 202 decks, and currently building a modest informational website for classic Nak gear; The RX-505 brochure info will be an excellent addition to the website! > >I currently have extra original copies of the RX-202 and DR1/2/3 cassette deck brochures that I'm willing to exchange for a copy of the RX-505 brochure. Anyone in NakTalk land interested in a swap? Got a copy to sell?? > >Kindly contact me directly....... > >K.J. Parsons >Madison, WI USA > >--- >Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? >http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > >Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MikeSwank at aol.com Sun Dec 12 02:11:29 1999 From: MikeSwank at aol.com (MikeSwank at aol.com) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 20:11:29 EST Subject: [naktalk] Is there a UK version of Stephen Sank??? Message-ID: <0.48b4eb13.25845041@aol.com> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com Sun Dec 12 00:58:43 1999 From: Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com (Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:58:43 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Message not deliverable Message-ID: <85256845.000C5E29.00@mime.timeinc.com> ---------- cc:Mail Nondelivery Report ----------- From: naktalk at naks.com AT TIME_INC Date: 12/11/99 04:26 PM To: naktalk at naks.com AT TIME_INC To: "MVM" AT TIME_INC Subject: Re: [naktalk] 700 bias adjustment - question for Stephen ... Unknown recipient: Chris Hearing Subject: Re: [naktalk] 700 bias adjustment - question for Stephen Sank --------------------------------- Actually, it sounds like you are not getting full amplitude out of the oscillator. Normally, one channel may affect the other a small amount, but erase level is never affected. If you can, you'll need to check to see if you have proper 105kHz & if your DC level on C351 is maintaining at least 12V. I think we already discussed replacing all of the film caps in the circuit, so I assume you've done that. MVM wrote: > > Hi everyone and especialy Stephen! > > I just got enough time to get inside of my 700 with both hands and iron :) > I notice strange style of regulating BIAS. Was it done with purpose, > or it's just an "old" style? As I understand it, adjusting one channel will > affect other, > plus it will affect erasing bias. So I'm planning to change it for more > common > scheme, put variable resistor pot instead of constant resistor in a bias > line, and > vice versa with variable resistor wich connect oscilator output to the > ground. > Sorry for hazy description but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. > > Thanks! > > Michael > Kiev, Ukraine > ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === -- Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com Sun Dec 12 00:58:18 1999 From: Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com (Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:58:18 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Message not deliverable Message-ID: <85256845.000C5B42.00@mime.timeinc.com> ---------- cc:Mail Nondelivery Report ----------- From: naktalk at naks.com AT TIME_INC Date: 12/11/99 09:52 AM To: naktalk at naks.com AT TIME_INC Subject: [naktalk] 700 bias adjustment - question for Stephen Sank Unknown recipient: Chris Hearing Hi everyone and especialy Stephen! I just got enough time to get inside of my 700 with both hands and iron :) I notice strange style of regulating BIAS. Was it done with purpose, or it's just an "old" style? As I understand it, adjusting one channel will affect other, plus it will affect erasing bias. So I'm planning to change it for more common scheme, put variable resistor pot instead of constant resistor in a bias line, and vice versa with variable resistor wich connect oscilator output to the ground. Sorry for hazy description but I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. Thanks! Michael Kiev, Ukraine ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com Sun Dec 12 00:58:42 1999 From: Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com (Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:58:42 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Message not deliverable Message-ID: <85256845.000C5E4D.00@mime.timeinc.com> ---------- cc:Mail Nondelivery Report ----------- From: naktalk at naks.com AT TIME_INC Date: 12/11/99 04:19 PM To: naktalk at naks.com AT TIME_INC Subject: Re: [naktalk] Is there a UK version of Stephen Sank??? Unknown recipient: Chris Hearing Well, hey, you know, if you get a bunch of Nak friends together that also need decks worked on.... Graham Nelson wrote: > > Stephen > > If I could afford to fly you over, I'd fly the deck to you instead!! > {: -------------- next part -------------- ¬ ) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > Stephen Sank2 > > Sent: 10 December 1999 22:03 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Is there a UK version of Stephen Sank??? > > > > > > Fly me over! I'd love it. > > > > Graham Nelson wrote: > > > > > > Well chaps? Is there? ....... > > > ....... (If it weren't for a few 1,000 miles and an great big ocean > > getting in the > > > way, I'd have bought it and walked to the SS workshop with it!) > > > > > > Graham > > > > > > PS > > > > > > Don't fancy opening a workshop over here, do you Stephen? With your > > > application of good "customer service", you'd clean up all the > > business!! > > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > > Cassette Deck resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > > > -- > > Stephen Sank, Owner > > Champlain Valley Speaker Company > > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > > 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. > > Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] > > phone/fax 505-296-8795 > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > > Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > > --------========= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === -- Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === From Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com Sun Dec 12 00:58:15 1999 From: Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com (Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:58:15 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Message not deliverable Message-ID: <85256845.000C5BE1.00@mime.timeinc.com> ---------- cc:Mail Nondelivery Report ----------- From: naktalk at naks.com AT TIME_INC Date: 12/11/99 09:16 AM To: naktalk at naks.com AT TIME_INC Subject: RE: [naktalk] Is there a UK version of Stephen Sank??? Unknown recipient: Chris Hearing Stephen If I could afford to fly you over, I'd fly the deck to you instead!! {: -------------- next part -------------- ¬ ) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Stephen Sank2 > Sent: 10 December 1999 22:03 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Is there a UK version of Stephen Sank??? > > > Fly me over! I'd love it. > > Graham Nelson wrote: > > > > Well chaps? Is there? ....... > > ....... (If it weren't for a few 1,000 miles and an great big ocean > getting in the > > way, I'd have bought it and walked to the SS workshop with it!) > > > > Graham > > > > PS > > > > Don't fancy opening a workshop over here, do you Stephen? With your > > application of good "customer service", you'd clean up all the > business!! > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > > -- > Stephen Sank, Owner > Champlain Valley Speaker Company > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. > Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] > phone/fax 505-296-8795 > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === From Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com Sun Dec 12 00:58:18 1999 From: Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com (Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:58:18 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Message not deliverable Message-ID: <85256845.000C5AF4.00@mime.timeinc.com> ---------- cc:Mail Nondelivery Report ----------- From: naktalk at naks.com AT TIME_INC Date: 12/11/99 09:42 AM To: naktalk at naks.com AT TIME_INC Subject: Re: [naktalk] Other System One Components Unknown recipient: Chris Hearing Hi Raul, Please, tell Winfried to send service manuals directly to me, instead of resending it around the world :) Thanks for your support. And just in case - do you have Service Manual for 600II? Looks like I need it. ^ I can include that brochure in the next batch of manuals that ^ I send to Winfried in Austria for scanning. ^ ^ ^ Raul ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com Sun Dec 12 00:57:58 1999 From: Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com (Administrator.AT.TIALTLI3%MAIL_EXCHANGE at timeinc.com) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 1999 18:57:58 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Message not deliverable Message-ID: <85256845.000C5B5A.00@mime.timeinc.com> ---------- cc:Mail Nondelivery Report ----------- From: naktalk at naks.com AT TIME_INC Date: 12/11/99 02:25 AM To: "'naktalk at naks.com'" AT TIME_INC Subject: RE: [naktalk] Other System One Components Unknown recipient: Chris Hearing I can include that brochure in the next batch of manuals that I send to Winfried in Austria for scanning. Raul -----Original Message----- From: MVM [mailto:MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua] Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 11:39 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Other System One Components Tom, Is there any chance to get a *.jpg or *.tif file with scaned picture of this system? Some pages from Nak broshure? Michael ========------------------------------------------------------------------= = ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------= = ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------= ===== === ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From rxtellez at rota.med.navy.mil Sun Dec 12 09:11:24 1999 From: rxtellez at rota.med.navy.mil (Tellez, Raul) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 09:11:24 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Other System One Components Message-ID: <3552BC4041EAD111826100A02475F2F00134DA64@nh-rota-exch1.med.navy.mil> Yes, I will let him know the send the original 700II manual and you be able to get the all the other ones of Wouter's server (or where ever they will be kept). I don't believe I have 600II manual. There are still more that I have to send Winfried. After going over some of the manuals, it is a huge task. Winfried, I will send you a money order to cover shipping for the 700II to the Ukraine with the next batch of manuals. Raul -----Original Message----- From: MVM [mailto:MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua] Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 3:43 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Other System One Components Hi Raul, Please, tell Winfried to send service manuals directly to me, instead of resending it around the world :) Thanks for your support. And just in case - do you have Service Manual for 600II? Looks like I need it. ^ I can include that brochure in the next batch of manuals that ^ I send to Winfried in Austria for scanning. ^ ^ ^ Raul ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From paulo at dnai.com Sun Dec 12 17:13:34 1999 From: paulo at dnai.com (paulo) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 08:13:34 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Other System One Components References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> <3850CE68.22C7@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <009401bf44bb$d7ad5fa0$e5eeb5cf@paulo> You Bet !!! I saw this stuff all set up in racks at a place in Berkeley, California: Honkers Sound Company, they were the local Nak Dealer at the time (Mid 1970's), I have to concur with Tom, it looked very imposing. Beautifull !!. Cordially, PaulO ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Bergman To: Cc: Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 1:56 AM Subject: [naktalk] Other System One Components > Michael, > System One consisted of several components all styled very > similarly to the 600 and 600II cassette decks: There was the 610 > preamp, the 620 amp, and the 630 tuner/preamp, which had a large > retro-looking circular tuning dial. There was also a timer that went > with this system, which was basically identical to the the DS 200. I > have an old Nak brochure which displays Nak peripheral equipment. It > shows a rack that was specifically designed to hold the System One > components, including the timer. All of the 600 units displayed > together like that presented a very dramatic and imposing image. This > bunch of stuff looked like it meant business... > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ritchfan at airmail.net Mon Dec 13 04:30:23 1999 From: ritchfan at airmail.net (Bobby Gervais) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 99 21:30:23 -0600 (CST) Subject: [naktalk] head cleaning kit In-Reply-To: <3850CE68.22C7@bestweb.net> References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: I have a DR-1 and just love it. One of these days I will move up to the Dragon, but for now it is my baby!!! Will they ever do an anniversary 2000 Dragon ???? Okay thoughts are free..... Question: I have taken my Dr-1 in regularly for professional head cleaning and maintence but I wanted to know if there is ANYWHERE I can buy a good head cleaner or the fluid and kit stuff for me to do it myself more frequently. I cant find any headcleaner stuff anywhere. I am stumped! Is there any mailorder or net place for headcleaning solution and scrubbing qtip things?? Thanks Bobby Gervais ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From brianwinans at hotmail.com Mon Dec 13 07:27:29 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 06:27:29 GMT Subject: [naktalk] head cleaning kit Message-ID: <19991213062729.29267.qmail@hotmail.com> Ever try radio shack? >From: Bobby Gervais >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] head cleaning kit >Date: Sun, 12 Dec 99 21:30:23 -0600 (CST) > >I have a DR-1 and just love it. One of these days I will move up to the >Dragon, but for now it is my baby!!! Will they ever do an anniversary 2000 >Dragon ???? Okay thoughts are free..... > >Question: I have taken my Dr-1 in regularly for professional head cleaning >and maintence but I wanted to know if there is ANYWHERE I can buy a good >head cleaner or the fluid and kit stuff for me to do it myself more >frequently. I cant find any headcleaner stuff anywhere. > >I am stumped! Is there any mailorder or net place for headcleaning >solution and scrubbing qtip things?? > >Thanks > >Bobby Gervais > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Mon Dec 13 09:25:01 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 08:25:01 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] head cleaning kit References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <3854AD5D.52F2@bestweb.net> Bobby, I use ordinary isopropyl alcohol and Q-tips which can be purchased at any drugstore. (Dirt cheap at CVS!) In case there are any alcohol naysayers out there, I'll remind you that the early Naks included a a small bottle of isoproplyl alcohol as an accessory. This stuff has always worked like a charm for me and I have never had any problems with it. Total cost of this purchase? About three bucks, if that. Tom PS A repair tech friend of mine gave me some professional cleaner once, but I discovered it attacked plastic. I'll stick with the benign isopropyl. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Mon Dec 13 15:52:59 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeff Galin) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:52:59 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] head cleaning kit References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com><001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net><029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <005b01bf457a$255f6a40$27449cd1@jeffery> Bobby, Everything you need can be gotten from American Recorder Technologies. The owner was friends with a past Nakamichi national service manager. (800)777-9580 ask for Alan and tell him I sent you. Enjoy your Nak !! Sincerely, Jeffrey Galin eslabs at prodigy.net & www.eslabs.com Nakamichi Serviced Here ELECTRONICS SERVICE LABS 1807 Berlin Turnpike Wethersfield, CT 06109 USA (860)529-3700 M-F 8am-6pm EST ----- Original Message ----- From: Bobby Gervais To: Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 10:30 PM Subject: [naktalk] head cleaning kit > I have a DR-1 and just love it. One of these days I will move up to the > Dragon, but for now it is my baby!!! Will they ever do an anniversary 2000 > Dragon ???? Okay thoughts are free..... > > Question: I have taken my Dr-1 in regularly for professional head cleaning > and maintence but I wanted to know if there is ANYWHERE I can buy a good > head cleaner or the fluid and kit stuff for me to do it myself more > frequently. I cant find any headcleaner stuff anywhere. > > I am stumped! Is there any mailorder or net place for headcleaning > solution and scrubbing qtip things?? > > Thanks > > Bobby Gervais > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From djosz at colby-sawyer.edu Mon Dec 13 16:17:09 1999 From: djosz at colby-sawyer.edu (Damon Josz) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:17:09 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] system one Message-ID: <003001bf457d$8722da20$8851aad0@m5e0c7> Nak, Nak, ??????'s at bottom.... I have hankered for sys. one for years. My dad brought home the brochures when they first came out. And then slowly pieced together a mega system on the used market in the early eighties. You look in his sound room, jeez, two 600cass., three 620amps, two 630preamp/tuners and a 610control preamp, ds-200 timer, ba-150 bridging adaptor( theoretical 375-400 watts/channel) and recently added the nak nameplated 200 cd box. Well envy is all I had........ Once I received a phone call from dad, SYSTEM ONE complete, $1000.00 Didn't have the dough...... However, the advent of the internet has made my dream system come true, plus the chase is fun! My most recent score....THE RACK.....truly one of the most difficult parts to find in the 600 series. So now I am up to 2 600's, 2 610's (sell one) 2 620's and 2 630's. Now the funny thing about the racks, they came with the timer, mine was missing. I have the ds-200 but they face plate is much narrower. I plan to cut a dash plate to fit the rack. The real unique feature of 600 series and racks are the compact construction and computer like PCB board connections. While offering this wedge shape vs. the box was a artful statement, the real bonus was the slimness of the pieces when inverted to fit the rack. Only six inches of box! Thus the full rack had the face of a monolith army issue, yet is not "file cabinet plus" in depth. And when the pieces are mounted all the jacks and schematics face up at an angle for easy viewing out back. All this beauty and performance ends ( or begins audibly!) on a pair of Altec Vot's........ ohhhhhhbaby! Now recently I picked up the BA-150( another difficult piece) 2 PS-100's and these two pieces, the EC-100 and sf-100. Does anyone have the paperwork to copy for these two? And how about the Din 4 plugs? Any answers? Damon Sunapee NH ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From merhan at hilite-ind.com Mon Dec 13 16:55:22 1999 From: merhan at hilite-ind.com (MERHAN) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 09:55:22 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] system one Message-ID: Lucky you!!! I had a whole system one about 13 years ago. Sold it when I moved to the US. Now I regret terribly. Its still my dream system. Good luck and enjoy. Mino -----Original Message----- From: Damon Josz [mailto:djosz at colby-sawyer.edu] Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 9:17 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] system one Nak, Nak, ??????'s at bottom.... I have hankered for sys. one for years. My dad brought home the brochures when they first came out. And then slowly pieced together a mega system on the used market in the early eighties. You look in his sound room, jeez, two 600cass., three 620amps, two 630preamp/tuners and a 610control preamp, ds-200 timer, ba-150 bridging adaptor( theoretical 375-400 watts/channel) and recently added the nak nameplated 200 cd box. Well envy is all I had........ Once I received a phone call from dad, SYSTEM ONE complete, $1000.00 Didn't have the dough...... However, the advent of the internet has made my dream system come true, plus the chase is fun! My most recent score....THE RACK.....truly one of the most difficult parts to find in the 600 series. So now I am up to 2 600's, 2 610's (sell one) 2 620's and 2 630's. Now the funny thing about the racks, they came with the timer, mine was missing. I have the ds-200 but they face plate is much narrower. I plan to cut a dash plate to fit the rack. The real unique feature of 600 series and racks are the compact construction and computer like PCB board connections. While offering this wedge shape vs. the box was a artful statement, the real bonus was the slimness of the pieces when inverted to fit the rack. Only six inches of box! Thus the full rack had the face of a monolith army issue, yet is not "file cabinet plus" in depth. And when the pieces are mounted all the jacks and schematics face up at an angle for easy viewing out back. All this beauty and performance ends ( or begins audibly!) on a pair of Altec Vot's........ ohhhhhhbaby! Now recently I picked up the BA-150( another difficult piece) 2 PS-100's and these two pieces, the EC-100 and sf-100. Does anyone have the paperwork to copy for these two? And how about the Din 4 plugs? Any answers? Damon Sunapee NH ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Mon Dec 13 16:56:11 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeff Galin) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 10:56:11 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] system one References: <003001bf457d$8722da20$8851aad0@m5e0c7> Message-ID: <007501bf4582$b763cfa0$27449cd1@jeffery> Damon, We have some of this older Nak stuff in stock including a loaded System One rack and black boxes and remote controls. (860)529-3700 M-F 8am-6pm EST Sincerely, Jeffrey Galin eslabs at prodigy.net & www.eslabs.com Nakamichi Service Labs ELECTRONICS SERVICE LABS 1807 Berlin Turnpike Wethersfield, CT 06109 USA ----- Original Message ----- From: Damon Josz To: Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 10:17 AM Subject: [naktalk] system one > Nak, Nak, ??????'s at bottom.... > I have hankered for sys. one for years. My dad brought home > the brochures when they first came out. And then slowly pieced together a > mega system on the used market in the early eighties. You look in his sound > room, jeez, two 600cass., three 620amps, two 630preamp/tuners and a > 610control preamp, ds-200 timer, ba-150 bridging adaptor( theoretical > 375-400 watts/channel) and recently added the nak nameplated 200 cd box. > Well envy is all I had........ > > Once I received a phone call from dad, SYSTEM ONE complete, $1000.00 > > Didn't have the dough...... > > However, the advent of the internet has made my dream system come true, plus > the chase is fun! My most recent score....THE RACK.....truly one of the most > difficult parts to find in the 600 series. So now I am up to 2 600's, 2 > 610's (sell one) 2 620's and 2 630's. > Now the funny thing about the racks, they came with the timer, mine was > missing. I have the ds-200 but they face plate is much narrower. I plan to > cut a dash plate to fit the rack. > The real unique feature of 600 series and racks are the compact construction > and computer like PCB board connections. While offering this wedge shape vs. > the box was a artful statement, the real bonus was the slimness of the > pieces when inverted to fit the rack. Only six inches of box! Thus the full > rack had the face of a monolith army issue, yet is not "file cabinet plus" > in depth. And when the pieces are mounted all the jacks and schematics face > up at an angle for easy viewing out back. All this beauty and performance > ends ( or begins audibly!) on a pair of Altec Vot's........ ohhhhhhbaby! > > Now recently I picked up the BA-150( another difficult piece) 2 > PS-100's and these two pieces, the EC-100 and sf-100. Does anyone have the > paperwork to copy for these two? And how about the Din 4 plugs? Any answers? > > Damon > Sunapee NH > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From LDEVOE at mail.mcg.edu Mon Dec 13 18:54:15 1999 From: LDEVOE at mail.mcg.edu (Lawrence Devoe) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 12:54:15 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi cassette decks for sale Message-ID: Looking from a NAK CR7 with remote in pristine condition. Any help will be appreciated >>> "Jeff Galin" 12/10/99 01:56PM >>> This is the list of Nakamichi decks we have for sale; ZX-9 $1000 EXC. Condition ZX-7 $800 EXC. Condition 670ZX $750 EXC. Condition but cosmetics not perfect DR-10 $699 FACTORY NEW and tweaked by our experts 482 $650 EXC. Condition RX-202 $600 EXC. Condition All of the used decks have been overhauled by our Nakamichi experts and come with a 1 year warranty, just like when they were new !! We have many assorted accessories and parts in stock. Others are available through us from Nakamichi. I have been doing Nakamichi factory authorized warranty service for over 25 years and have been to Nakamichi in Japan. We accept VISA, M/C and DISCOVER (NOVUS). Please call us for a secure transaction and obtain shipping and handling costs at (860)529-3700 M-F 8am-6pm EST. Sincerely, Jeffrey Galin www.eslabs.com eslabs at prodigy.net Nakamichi Serviced Here ELECTRONICS SERVICED LABS 1807 Berlin Turnpike Wethersfield, CT 06109-1323 ----- Original Message ----- From: Andras Szollos To: Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 8:30 AM Subject: [naktalk] (no subject) Hello Nak-fans! I would like to buy an older model: either 682ZX or ZX7. Can anyone tell me, where to get these in Germany? Many thanks, András Szöllös. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Sincerely, Jeffrey Galin ELECTRONICS SERVICE LABS (860)529-3700 ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] system one > Do you have a remote control for the Dragon cassette deck? > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Mon Dec 13 19:35:16 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeff Galin) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 13:35:16 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi cassette decks for sale References: Message-ID: <00c401bf4598$f5a15600$27449cd1@jeffery> Lawrence, Sorry, we only have the remote control for $225. Jeffrey Galin eslabs at prodigy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Devoe To: Sent: Monday, December 13, 1999 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nakamichi cassette decks for sale Looking from a NAK CR7 with remote in pristine condition. Any help will be appreciated >>> "Jeff Galin" 12/10/99 01:56PM >>> This is the list of Nakamichi decks we have for sale; ZX-9 $1000 EXC. Condition ZX-7 $800 EXC. Condition 670ZX $750 EXC. Condition but cosmetics not perfect DR-10 $699 FACTORY NEW and tweaked by our experts 482 $650 EXC. Condition RX-202 $600 EXC. Condition All of the used decks have been overhauled by our Nakamichi experts and come with a 1 year warranty, just like when they were new !! We have many assorted accessories and parts in stock. Others are available through us from Nakamichi. I have been doing Nakamichi factory authorized warranty service for over 25 years and have been to Nakamichi in Japan. We accept VISA, M/C and DISCOVER (NOVUS). Please call us for a secure transaction and obtain shipping and handling costs at (860)529-3700 M-F 8am-6pm EST. Sincerely, Jeffrey Galin www.eslabs.com eslabs at prodigy.net Nakamichi Serviced Here ELECTRONICS SERVICED LABS 1807 Berlin Turnpike Wethersfield, CT 06109-1323 ----- Original Message ----- From: Andras Szollos To: Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 8:30 AM Subject: [naktalk] (no subject) Hello Nak-fans! I would like to buy an older model: either 682ZX or ZX7. Can anyone tell me, where to get these in Germany? Many thanks, András Szöllös. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From NELSONH at aol.com Tue Dec 14 01:22:36 1999 From: NELSONH at aol.com (NELSONH at aol.com) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 19:22:36 EST Subject: [naktalk] Dragon remote Message-ID: <0.c84381c2.2586e7cc@aol.com> Looks like I have a goldmine in my closet. Contains 6 RM-5s, 2 RM 20s and 4 RM 15s. None are for sale. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ritchfan at airmail.net Tue Dec 14 16:13:43 1999 From: ritchfan at airmail.net (Bobby Gervais) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 99 09:13:43 -0600 (CST) Subject: [naktalk] head cleaning kit In-Reply-To: <3854AD5D.52F2@bestweb.net> References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Message-ID: >Bobby, > I use ordinary isopropyl alcohol and Q-tips which can be purchased >at any drugstore. (Dirt cheap at CVS!) In case there are any alcohol >naysayers out there, I'll remind you that the early Naks included a a >small bottle of isoproplyl alcohol as an accessory. This stuff has >always worked like a charm for me and I have never had any problems with >it. Total cost of this purchase? About three bucks, if that. > > Tom > >PS A repair tech friend of mine gave me some professional cleaner once, >but I discovered it attacked plastic. I'll stick with the benign >isopropyl. Thanks! I had no idea it was that simple. I just havent seen any kits in any Best Buys, Hastings, etc etc etc. Cassette is NOT DEAD!! cheers BG ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Dec 14 17:32:28 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 11:32:28 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon remote References: <0.c84381c2.2586e7cc@aol.com> Message-ID: <005f01bf4650$d02e81a0$362f2ac4@coqui.net> > > Looks like I have a goldmine in my closet. Contains 6 RM-5s, 2 RM 20s and 4 > RM 15s. None are for sale. Congratulations, then ! The tape Man > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Tue Dec 14 20:30:11 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 21:30:11 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] system one References: <003001bf457d$8722da20$8851aad0@m5e0c7> Message-ID: <012001bf4669$a4b503a0$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Hi everyone, Is there any picture of System One in Internet? URL, please? if there is any... Michael. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Tue Dec 14 20:31:35 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 21:31:35 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Manual for 600II References: <003001bf457d$8722da20$8851aad0@m5e0c7> Message-ID: <012401bf4669$d7206c80$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> Hi friends, Please, let me know if anyone has service manual for 600II. I need some pages - ajustment procedure and schematic. Any electronic format will be just fine. Thanks, Michael ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bon at ics.mq.edu.au Wed Dec 15 01:50:46 1999 From: bon at ics.mq.edu.au (Bon Clarke) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:50:46 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Manual for 600II In-Reply-To: <012401bf4669$d7206c80$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> References: <003001bf457d$8722da20$8851aad0@m5e0c7> Message-ID: I would also be interested in the service manual. Bon Clarke >Hi friends, > >Please, let me know if anyone has service manual for 600II. >I need some pages - ajustment procedure and schematic. >Any electronic format will be just fine. >Thanks, >Michael Bonnington M N Clarke School of MPCE Macquarie University NSW 2109 AUSTRALIA ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Wed Dec 15 04:04:04 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 20:04:04 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] 700 Alignment procedures posted for downloading Message-ID: <38570524.6BE8AF9F@emall-online.com> If anyone needs them, I have uploaded the zipped scanned pages of the 700 manual containing all alignment/adjustment procedures to my website space for downloading. Also applicable to the 700II, and largely to the 1000/1000II. Click on the link & slect "save to disk" in your browser. http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/nak700.zip -- Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From targowski at mediaone.net Wed Dec 15 05:17:16 1999 From: targowski at mediaone.net (targowski) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 22:17:16 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon remote - Happy for you ... References: <0.c84381c2.2586e7cc@aol.com> <005f01bf4650$d02e81a0$362f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <3857164C.2EF19D9C@mediaone.net> Looks like this is Las Vegas Striptease. We are all glad you told us all what you have and what we can't touch. Way to go Carlos. What year is your pink Cadillac? Carlos wrote: > > > > Looks like I have a goldmine in my closet. Contains 6 RM-5s, 2 RM 20s and > 4 > > RM 15s. None are for sale. > > Congratulations, then ! > > The tape Man > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From enoyes at snet.net Wed Dec 15 06:49:21 1999 From: enoyes at snet.net (Ed Noyes) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 00:49:21 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon remote - Happy for you ... References: <0.c84381c2.2586e7cc@aol.com> <005f01bf4650$d02e81a0$362f2ac4@coqui.net> <3857164C.2EF19D9C@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <38572BDB.A68FE714@snet.net> You know, Carlos didn't submit that entry, but was actually commenting more gently than you on the fairly self indulgent commentary about another person's collection of unavailable remotes... just one question, does he have decks for all of them... and what are they doing in the closet! Ed targowski wrote: > Looks like this is Las Vegas Striptease. > > We are all glad you told us all what you have and what we can't touch. > > Way to go Carlos. What year is your pink Cadillac? > > Carlos wrote: > > > > > > > Looks like I have a goldmine in my closet. Contains 6 RM-5s, 2 RM 20s and > > 4 > > > RM 15s. None are for sale. > > > > Congratulations, then ! > > > > The tape Man > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Wed Dec 15 07:32:50 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 17:32:50 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon remote -out of the closet ritual References: <0.c84381c2.2586e7cc@aol.com> <005f01bf4650$d02e81a0$362f2ac4@coqui.net> <3857164C.2EF19D9C@mediaone.net> <38572BDB.A68FE714@snet.net> Message-ID: <38573611.CE87ECE0@ozemail.com.au> Ed Noyes wrote:>just one question, does he have decks for all of them... and what are they doing in the closet!< On the new moon of the summer equinox, after consuming a libation of isopropyl alcohol and mandrake, he removes them from the closet with due deference and appropriate ritual. Then, astride his Virgin Dragon flys though the night sky to the nearest hill. There , naked and unashamed he plugs the remotes into his several orifices and proceeds to .. .. .. .. ... . . . . . . . . . ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From rxtellez at rota.med.navy.mil Wed Dec 15 07:35:09 1999 From: rxtellez at rota.med.navy.mil (Tellez, Raul) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 07:35:09 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon remote - Happy for you ... Message-ID: <3552BC4041EAD111826100A02475F2F00134DA8D@nh-rota-exch1.med.navy.mil> Carlos is a closet taper. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Noyes [mailto:enoyes at snet.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 6:49 AM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon remote - Happy for you ... You know, Carlos didn't submit that entry, but was actually commenting more gently than you on the fairly self indulgent commentary about another person's collection of unavailable remotes... just one question, does he have decks for all of them... and what are they doing in the closet! Ed targowski wrote: > Looks like this is Las Vegas Striptease. > > We are all glad you told us all what you have and what we can't touch. > > Way to go Carlos. What year is your pink Cadillac? > > Carlos wrote: > > > > > > > Looks like I have a goldmine in my closet. Contains 6 RM-5s, 2 RM 20s and > > 4 > > > RM 15s. None are for sale. > > > > Congratulations, then ! > > > > The tape Man > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Wed Dec 15 14:36:11 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:36:11 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon remote - Happy for you ... References: <0.c84381c2.2586e7cc@aol.com> <005f01bf4650$d02e81a0$362f2ac4@coqui.net> <3857164C.2EF19D9C@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <006701bf4701$5ba76660$9c2f2ac4@coqui.net> Sorry my dear friend, but that wasn't my post. Only the last sentence is mine's. *Congratulations, then!* On the other hand you can be sure that I'll love to have some of those remotes for my already big collection of *Pink Cadillacs* ! Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: targowski To: Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 1999 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon remote - Happy for you ... > Looks like this is Las Vegas Striptease. > > We are all glad you told us all what you have and what we can't touch. > > Way to go Carlos. What year is your pink Cadillac? > > Carlos wrote: > > > > > > > Looks like I have a goldmine in my closet. Contains 6 RM-5s, 2 RM 20s and > > 4 > > > RM 15s. None are for sale. > > > > Congratulations, then ! > > > > The tape Man > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Wed Dec 15 14:37:44 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 08:37:44 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon remote - Happy for you ... References: <3552BC4041EAD111826100A02475F2F00134DA8D@nh-rota-exch1.med.navy.mil> Message-ID: <006d01bf4701$92c09fe0$9c2f2ac4@coqui.net> It's obvious that only Ed Noyes realized that the post concerning the remote's wasn't mine's ! Thanks Ed ! Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Tellez, Raul To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 1:35 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Dragon remote - Happy for you ... > Carlos is a closet taper. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ed Noyes [mailto:enoyes at snet.net] > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 1999 6:49 AM > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon remote - Happy for you ... > > > You know, Carlos didn't submit that entry, but was actually commenting more > gently than > you on the fairly self indulgent commentary about another person's > collection of > unavailable remotes... just one question, does he have decks for all of > them... and what > are they doing in the closet! > > Ed > > targowski wrote: > > > Looks like this is Las Vegas Striptease. > > > > We are all glad you told us all what you have and what we can't touch. > > > > Way to go Carlos. What year is your pink Cadillac? > > > > Carlos wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Looks like I have a goldmine in my closet. Contains 6 RM-5s, 2 RM 20s > and > > > 4 > > > > RM 15s. None are for sale. > > > > > > Congratulations, then ! > > > > > > The tape Man > > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > ======= > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > resource. > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mature at owh.moldnet.md Sun Dec 12 16:08:02 1999 From: mature at owh.moldnet.md (marin) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 1999 17:08:02 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] re:Dragon remote Message-ID: <3853BA51.9A8DA5BD@owh.moldnet.md> >Looks like I have a goldmine in my closet. Contains 6 RM-5s, 2 RM 20s and 4 >RM 15s. None are for sale. are you building a little robot made of remotes? all respect for Nakamichi, but i'd suggest you to use LEGO, the results are much better, believe me. marin ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From k.-h.herrmann at fz-juelich.de Wed Dec 15 19:11:07 1999 From: k.-h.herrmann at fz-juelich.de (Karl-Heinz Herrmann) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:11:07 +0100 (MET) Subject: [naktalk] Dragon remote In-Reply-To: <005f01bf4650$d02e81a0$362f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: Hi, I don't know the Dragon remote. I once experimented with the wire Remote of a RX-505. It has a 7 pin ( I think) connector on the backside. There was one line carrying 0V or +5 and all others the other voltage. Any connection made via a 1k resistor (or even higher) switched something. So could it be that there are 6 funktions on the remote? Or will it be more complex after all? But I'm quite sure one could rigg quite easily a remote -- even an IR one for the Naks. It's just not an original one. Here electronic discounter have sets for 5 or 10 channel IR remote switchers. Take one of these and you are wireless.... And can use a more powerful one than the usual television type. IN US it's probably available at Radio Shacks from all I heard about that shops :-) K.-H. ---------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: Karl-Heinz Herrmann Date: 15-Dec-99 Time: 19:05:55 ---------------------------------------------------------- ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From tapes at pls-inc.com Wed Dec 15 19:18:59 1999 From: tapes at pls-inc.com (J W Norris) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 10:18:59 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #118 References: <199912151811.TAA01891@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <006101bf4728$dcc316a0$0501a8c0@jw> Others of us realized that Carlos wasn'y the poster of the offencive message, IMNSHO, but on the digest we don't get jump in as often as we would like. J W Norris 700ZXE ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Wed Dec 15 20:08:43 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 11:08:43 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Street Corner Talkin'.... Message-ID: I've got my Naks stacked on a walnut shelf, without the use of remotes (I like touching my black beauties, incessantly). No closets in the room, no secrets to hide. So, what does that make me? Happy Holidays to my NakTalkin' friends!!! Mr Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Zuenglerba at lakeland.edu Thu Dec 16 02:20:36 1999 From: Zuenglerba at lakeland.edu (Zuengler, Benjamin A.) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 19:20:36 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Y2K Preparations Message-ID: Folks, the hysteria of Y2K has now escalated to new levels. Apparently, what began with the widespread stocking of food and water, has now elevated to reports of certain individuals amassing extensive supplies of remote controls. Please, if you have not added this to your list of provisions for Y2K, do so now- before it is too late! Tee, Hee, Hee -Zig ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eriep at stewstras.net Thu Dec 16 04:12:50 1999 From: eriep at stewstras.net (Erie Patsellis) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 1999 21:12:50 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] remotes.... Message-ID: <003501bf4773$6fb1d600$0100a8c0@office> gee, $350 or so for an rm 580??? I have one modded for a 700II, if I restore it, any takers??? :) erie ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Thu Dec 16 22:18:38 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 21:18:38 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Y2K Preparations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101bf480b$1e922e80$4b6c883e@a4s1s2> Zig Has no one told them of the clock chip in Nak remotes? Come Midnight 31 December 1999 they will re-set themselves to Y1900 and refuse to work because the Nak cassette hadn't been invented then ... Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Zuengler, Benjamin A. > Sent: 16 December 1999 01:21 > To: 'naktalk at naks.com' > Subject: [naktalk] Y2K Preparations > > > Folks, the hysteria of Y2K has now escalated to new levels. Apparently, > what began with the widespread stocking of food and water, has > now elevated > to reports of certain individuals amassing extensive supplies of remote > controls. Please, if you have not added this to your list of > provisions for > Y2K, do so now- before it is too late! > > Tee, Hee, Hee > -Zig > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Fri Dec 17 00:16:53 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:16:53 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Flimsy Dragon remote References: Message-ID: <385972E5.E67A4429@ozemail.com.au> Karl-Heinz Herrmann wrote: > >I don't know the Dragon remote.< I haven't any recollection of the Model No for the remote that came with my dragon. I remember it as a thin, cheap and fragile object that soon expired as the switch contacts kept breaking. I wouldn't take one back if you gave it to me free. A more robust alternative I would like to know about. Hail Fellow Nakamaniacs John H ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Fri Dec 17 00:20:21 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:20:21 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Street Corner Talkin'.... References: Message-ID: <385973B5.35B328C0@ozemail.com.au> The BlueSwapper wrote:>I've got my Naks stacked on a walnut shelf, without the use of remotes (I like touching my black beauties, incessantly). No closets in the room, no secrets to hide. So, what does that make me? < A NAKROPHILIAC. :-} ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Thu Dec 16 19:44:25 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:44:25 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Flimsy Dragon remote References: <385972E5.E67A4429@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <38593309.5285@bestweb.net> John, My RM-200, which seems fairly rugged to me, operates every one of my Naks I have tried it out on, including my Dragon. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From kleimann at wt.net Fri Dec 17 01:39:00 1999 From: kleimann at wt.net (Rudy J. Kleimann III) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:39:00 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] system one In-Reply-To: <003001bf457d$8722da20$8851aad0@m5e0c7> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991216183900.00813140@mail.wt.net> I too have a 600II. It was my first Nak, and I've been a Nakamaniac ever since. Now own 7 Naks decks, including a 1000ZXL with matching NR-100 Dolby 'C' outboard unit. What a machine! Makes mediocre tape sound great, and good tape sound unreal... I also have a BA-100. It is identical to the BA-150, only it is 100/120/220/240 Volt instead of needing a PS-100 or certain Nak components to power it. Very rare. I have never seen it in a Brochure. I also have a line on one of those RM-610 "Black Box" remote A/B speaker line switches that go with the 610 preamp. It is in the hands of a now retired Nak Dealer. It was unsold store stock and has never been used- New In the Box. I bought my BA-100 from him just before he retired and closed up shop. Would've bought the RM-610 too, but my neighbor won't part with his 610 preamp, and didn't want the RM-610 I need to sell some of my Nak stuff, including a PS-100, and perhaps a MX-100 (N.I.B.) and the BA-100 (as N.I.B., used for about 50 hours) with box and manual. A matching set of CR-3a's, and my beloved 600II with box, manual, warranty papers, service records with frequncy response plots. Low hours, mint condition, very light scratch from handle removal by maintenance service by dealer. Would consider a trade for a 610 preamp. If anyone can provide a good home for any of these Nak items, please email me at: kleimann at wt.net Thanks, Rudy Kleimann At 10:17 AM 12/13/99 -0500, you wrote: >Nak, Nak, ??????'s at bottom.... > I have hankered for sys. one for years. My dad brought home >the brochures when they first came out. And then slowly pieced together a >mega system on the used market in the early eighties. You look in his sound >room, jeez, two 600cass., three 620amps, two 630preamp/tuners and a >610control preamp, ds-200 timer, ba-150 bridging adaptor( theoretical >375-400 watts/channel) and recently added the nak nameplated 200 cd box. >Well envy is all I had........ > > Once I received a phone call from dad, SYSTEM ONE complete, $1000.00 > > Didn't have the dough...... > >However, the advent of the internet has made my dream system come true, plus >the chase is fun! My most recent score....THE RACK.....truly one of the most >difficult parts to find in the 600 series. So now I am up to 2 600's, 2 >610's (sell one) 2 620's and 2 630's. >Now the funny thing about the racks, they came with the timer, mine was >missing. I have the ds-200 but they face plate is much narrower. I plan to >cut a dash plate to fit the rack. >The real unique feature of 600 series and racks are the compact construction >and computer like PCB board connections. While offering this wedge shape vs. >the box was a artful statement, the real bonus was the slimness of the >pieces when inverted to fit the rack. Only six inches of box! Thus the full >rack had the face of a monolith army issue, yet is not "file cabinet plus" >in depth. And when the pieces are mounted all the jacks and schematics face >up at an angle for easy viewing out back. All this beauty and performance >ends ( or begins audibly!) on a pair of Altec Vot's........ ohhhhhhbaby! > > Now recently I picked up the BA-150( another difficult piece) 2 >PS-100's and these two pieces, the EC-100 and sf-100. Does anyone have the >paperwork to copy for these two? And how about the Din 4 plugs? Any answers? > >Damon >Sunapee NH > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From kleimann at wt.net Fri Dec 17 01:42:08 1999 From: kleimann at wt.net (Rudy J. Kleimann III) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:42:08 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] system one In-Reply-To: <003001bf457d$8722da20$8851aad0@m5e0c7> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991216184208.00819370@mail.wt.net> BTW, my 600II is Silver -not Black. I also have the smoked Plexiglass Nakamichi dustcover for it. At 10:17 AM 12/13/99 -0500, you wrote: >Nak, Nak, ??????'s at bottom.... > I have hankered for sys. one for years. My dad brought home >the brochures when they first came out. And then slowly pieced together a >mega system on the used market in the early eighties. You look in his sound >room, jeez, two 600cass., three 620amps, two 630preamp/tuners and a >610control preamp, ds-200 timer, ba-150 bridging adaptor( theoretical >375-400 watts/channel) and recently added the nak nameplated 200 cd box. >Well envy is all I had........ > > Once I received a phone call from dad, SYSTEM ONE complete, $1000.00 > > Didn't have the dough...... > >However, the advent of the internet has made my dream system come true, plus >the chase is fun! My most recent score....THE RACK.....truly one of the most >difficult parts to find in the 600 series. So now I am up to 2 600's, 2 >610's (sell one) 2 620's and 2 630's. >Now the funny thing about the racks, they came with the timer, mine was >missing. I have the ds-200 but they face plate is much narrower. I plan to >cut a dash plate to fit the rack. >The real unique feature of 600 series and racks are the compact construction >and computer like PCB board connections. While offering this wedge shape vs. >the box was a artful statement, the real bonus was the slimness of the >pieces when inverted to fit the rack. Only six inches of box! Thus the full >rack had the face of a monolith army issue, yet is not "file cabinet plus" >in depth. And when the pieces are mounted all the jacks and schematics face >up at an angle for easy viewing out back. All this beauty and performance >ends ( or begins audibly!) on a pair of Altec Vot's........ ohhhhhhbaby! > > Now recently I picked up the BA-150( another difficult piece) 2 >PS-100's and these two pieces, the EC-100 and sf-100. Does anyone have the >paperwork to copy for these two? And how about the Din 4 plugs? Any answers? > >Damon >Sunapee NH > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From kleimann at wt.net Fri Dec 17 01:53:06 1999 From: kleimann at wt.net (Rudy J. Kleimann III) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:53:06 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon remote In-Reply-To: <0.c84381c2.2586e7cc@aol.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991216185306.008148b0@mail.wt.net> You bastard! Taunting us like that! Seriously, you gonna sell any of 'em? I have several Nak decks, and several "Black Box" items. Might sell/trade if you will... At 07:22 PM 12/13/99 EST, you wrote: > >Looks like I have a goldmine in my closet. Contains 6 RM-5s, 2 RM 20s and 4 >RM 15s. None are for sale. >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From kleimann at wt.net Fri Dec 17 01:55:31 1999 From: kleimann at wt.net (Rudy J. Kleimann III) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:55:31 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon remote - Happy for you ... In-Reply-To: <38572BDB.A68FE714@snet.net> References: <0.c84381c2.2586e7cc@aol.com> <005f01bf4650$d02e81a0$362f2ac4@coqui.net> <3857164C.2EF19D9C@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991216185531.0080f1b0@mail.wt.net> Maybe he's in the closet playing with all of them, hehe... At 12:49 AM 12/15/99 -0500, you wrote: >You know, Carlos didn't submit that entry, but was actually commenting more gently than >you on the fairly self indulgent commentary about another person's collection of >unavailable remotes... just one question, does he have decks for all of them... and what >are they doing in the closet! > >Ed > >targowski wrote: > >> Looks like this is Las Vegas Striptease. >> >> We are all glad you told us all what you have and what we can't touch. >> >> Way to go Carlos. What year is your pink Cadillac? >> >> Carlos wrote: >> >> > > >> > > Looks like I have a goldmine in my closet. Contains 6 RM-5s, 2 RM 20s and >> > 4 >> > > RM 15s. None are for sale. >> > >> > Congratulations, then ! >> > >> > The tape Man >> > >> > > >> > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== >> > ======= >> > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >> > resource. >> > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> > > >> > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== >> > ======= >> > > >> > > >> > >> > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= >> > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >> > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= >> >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Fri Dec 17 03:33:32 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 13:33:32 +1100 Subject: [naktalk]Long Solid Dragon remote ? References: <385972E5.E67A4429@ozemail.com.au> <38593309.5285@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <3859A0FB.B05A9EA2@ozemail.com.au> Is the RM200 a long heavy thing that also came with 480/580s ? If so , I think I have one in the shed - didn't realise the Dragon would talk to it. Thanks, John H Tom Bergman wrote: > John, > My RM-200, which seems fairly rugged to me, operates every one of > my Naks I have tried it out on, including my Dragon. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From targowski at mediaone.net Fri Dec 17 03:52:04 1999 From: targowski at mediaone.net (targowski) Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 20:52:04 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon remote - Sorry Carlos. Thank you Ed. References: <0.c84381c2.2586e7cc@aol.com> <005f01bf4650$d02e81a0$362f2ac4@coqui.net> <3857164C.2EF19D9C@mediaone.net> <38572BDB.A68FE714@snet.net> Message-ID: <3859A554.E6A74D81@mediaone.net> Ed - thank you for clarifying - you are absolutely right. Carlos - I am sorry. You must have felt like me, yet I vented my 'confusion' at you. I apologize. NelsonH at aol.com - here I should put the words Al Pacino directed at the students actually playing the practical joke on their dean in the final minutes of "A Scent of a Woman" .... But, hey, no hard feelings ... We are all happy for your collection of remotes and whatever else you like to impress with ... This whole e-mail system, it is amazing ... Each evening, I get 30+ e-mail messages. Some from friends, some from the NAK list and other lists I subscribe too, some from 'intenet'-marketers. You scan them fast, you make mistakes. I know this list is directed at NAK lovers, and some of you may 'flame' me for this e-mail. Please don't. It is important to know if ZX-9 can actually do 12-21,750 +/- 1.25 db on a 1992 model of TDK SA-XG 60, yet it may be as well important to apologize for hitting the keyboard too fast ... I hope we all have fun. Stan Ed Noyes wrote: > You know, Carlos didn't submit that entry, but was actually commenting more gently than > you on the fairly self indulgent commentary about another person's collection of > unavailable remotes... just one question, does he have decks for all of them... and what > are they doing in the closet! > > Ed > > targowski wrote: > > > Looks like this is Las Vegas Striptease. > > > > We are all glad you told us all what you have and what we can't touch. > > > > Way to go Carlos. What year is your pink Cadillac? > > > > Carlos wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Looks like I have a goldmine in my closet. Contains 6 RM-5s, 2 RM 20s and > > > 4 > > > > RM 15s. None are for sale. > > > > > > Congratulations, then ! > > > > > > The tape Man > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > ======= > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > resource. > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Sat Dec 18 00:39:34 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 15:39:34 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Street Corner Talkin'.... Message-ID: Uh-uh, I only touch them when they're turned on! .....with a DM-10 demag hanging on my xmas coniferous tree!!! Ho, Ho, Hooooo!!!!! Mr Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper On Fri, 17 Dec 1999 10:20:21 mdhjwh wrote: > > >The BlueSwapper wrote:>I've got my Naks stacked on a walnut shelf, without the use of remotes (I >like touching my black beauties, incessantly). No closets in the room, no >secrets to hide. So, what does that make me? < > >A NAKROPHILIAC. :-} > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sat Dec 18 20:40:51 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 14:40:51 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon remote - Sorry Carlos. Thank you Ed. References: <0.c84381c2.2586e7cc@aol.com> <005f01bf4650$d02e81a0$362f2ac4@coqui.net> <3857164C.2EF19D9C@mediaone.net> <38572BDB.A68FE714@snet.net> <3859A554.E6A74D81@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <004601bf498f$cbce2920$a32f2ac4@coqui.net> AHH! Don't worry Stan ! Merry Chistmas and hopefully Santa would bring us a Nakamichi 1000 ZXL or Dragon 21st. Century Edition ! Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: targowski To: Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 9:52 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon remote - Sorry Carlos. Thank you Ed. > Ed - thank you for clarifying - you are absolutely right. Carlos - I am sorry. You must have > felt like me, yet I vented my 'confusion' at you. I apologize. > > NelsonH at aol.com - here I should put the words Al Pacino directed at the students actually > playing the practical joke on their dean in the final minutes of "A Scent of a Woman" .... > But, hey, no hard feelings ... We are all happy for your collection of remotes and whatever > else you like to impress with ... > > This whole e-mail system, it is amazing ... Each evening, I get 30+ e-mail messages. Some > from friends, some from the NAK list and other lists I subscribe too, some from > 'intenet'-marketers. You scan them fast, you make mistakes. I know this list is directed at > NAK lovers, and some of you may 'flame' me for this e-mail. Please don't. It is important to > know if ZX-9 can actually do 12-21,750 +/- 1.25 db on a 1992 model of TDK SA-XG 60, yet it > may be as well important to apologize for hitting the keyboard too fast ... > > I hope we all have fun. > > Stan > > > Ed Noyes wrote: > > > You know, Carlos didn't submit that entry, but was actually commenting more gently than > > you on the fairly self indulgent commentary about another person's collection of > > unavailable remotes... just one question, does he have decks for all of them... and what > > are they doing in the closet! > > > > Ed > > > > targowski wrote: > > > > > Looks like this is Las Vegas Striptease. > > > > > > We are all glad you told us all what you have and what we can't touch. > > > > > > Way to go Carlos. What year is your pink Cadillac? > > > > > > Carlos wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks like I have a goldmine in my closet. Contains 6 RM-5s, 2 RM 20s and > > > > 4 > > > > > RM 15s. None are for sale. > > > > > > > > Congratulations, then ! > > > > > > > > The tape Man > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > > ======= > > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > > resource. > > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > > > ======= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ ========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Sat Dec 18 23:28:31 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 09:28:31 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon revival and Nakamichi's new-born mediocracy References: <0.c84381c2.2586e7cc@aol.com> <005f01bf4650$d02e81a0$362f2ac4@coqui.net> <3857164C.2EF19D9C@mediaone.net> <38572BDB.A68FE714@snet.net> <3859A554.E6A74D81@mediaone.net> <004601bf498f$cbce2920$a32f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <385C0A8F.80A4F091@ozemail.com.au> Carlos wrote:>hopefully Santa would bring us a Nakamichi 1000 ZXL or Dragon 21st. Century Edition !< Given Nakamichi's two sadly mediocre recent decks, I hate to think what they might do in resurrecting the Dragon. To what extent is this the same company we once had great respect for? Little resemblance I suggest. John H ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From garcia at tusa.org Sun Dec 19 01:07:59 1999 From: garcia at tusa.org (Bill Roehl) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 1999 19:07:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: [naktalk] Dragon revival and Nakamichi's new-born mediocracy In-Reply-To: <385C0A8F.80A4F091@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: Brian, can you get back to me in private about your tapes... They were returned to me by a personal error and I no longer have access to my email at school. I would appreciate it so I could get your tapes out to you. - Bill ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Sun Dec 19 03:15:06 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:15:06 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon revival and Nakamichi's new-born mediocracy References: Message-ID: <385C3FAA.46073917@ozemail.com.au> Bill Roehl wrote: ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From brianwinans at hotmail.com Sun Dec 19 04:57:46 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 03:57:46 GMT Subject: [naktalk] Dragon revival and Nakamichi's new-born mediocracy Message-ID: <19991219035746.17254.qmail@hotmail.com> John, Bill was talking to me. Whenever somebody posts something to this board, it goes to everybody. Bill, I will get back to you. Brian >From: mdhjwh >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon revival and Nakamichi's new-born mediocracy >Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:15:06 +1100 > > > >Bill Roehl wrote: tapes...........................<. - Bill > >I have no idea why this has come to me with the heading "Dragon revival >and >Nakamichi's new-born mediocracy" >Is there a connection ? > >John H > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mmishra at siue.edu Sun Dec 19 20:28:12 1999 From: mmishra at siue.edu (Michael Mishra) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 13:28:12 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Re: ZX7/ZX9 voltage References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> <3851008E.98D4D1D9@it.cas.cz> <001701bf4340$a5715860$56449cd1@jeffery> Message-ID: <385D31CA.4ABFB15D@siue.edu> Does anyone know what the maximum output voltages/impedances on the ZX7 and ZX9 are? Thanks Michael ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Dec 19 20:29:42 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 19:29:42 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon revival and Nakamichi's new-born mediocracy In-Reply-To: <385C0A8F.80A4F091@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <000601bf4a57$6609ed40$c454883e@a4s1s2> Oooh... Is the King dead? Which reminds me, I was browsing through some hi fi reviews on the Net the other day and came across one by a hi fi engineer who was raving about (starting spitting, guys) a mini disc recorder, the Sony MDSJA20ES. Once selling in the UK for near enough £500 (just 12 months) it can now be bought for half that price. The point of interest is that the reviewer, someone who claimed to know quite a bit about hi fi (and he certainly seemed to be able to quote the right kind of technical stuff in terms of measurements, etc ... not that I would know, being a non-techi!), he reckoned he bought the Sony MD recorder to replace his Nakamichi CR7. No, the Nak wasn't broken. he reckoned it was in great shape ... it just didn't match the Sony for recording quality, so said he, not me. He then went on to "have a go" at the professional hi fi reviewers in the hi fi press for understating the quality of modern (of course, the MDSJA20ES actually isn't modern - it's old atrac technology) MD's because, he said, it suited their purpose to do so. (What? Journalists being impartial? Never! They always tell the truth, don't they!) Now, there is nothing wrong with being nostalgic about old technology. I mean, I still play 78's on a Goldring Lenco GL78. And with a few of my modifications, I reckon that GL78 reproduces music even better than my much more modern Pink Triangle PT TOO, the player that's reckoned (in the UK) to rival the Linn LP12. But may be I hear it sounds better because I want it to sound better. In some respects I can genuinely measure differences between them that show the old GL to be superior - for instance, a strobe shows the GL platter to be turning 33.3 rpm exactly, with barely no any variation whereas the PT TOO runs a wee bit fast and shows greater variation. (The variation is, I am told, due to the type of electric motor PT use - it doesn't run at a constant speed whereas the old GL78 does.) Thus, the GL sustains long piano notes better than the PT TOO. But does it reproduce the tonal scale of the piano as well, or its dynamic range? I want to think so, and may be it does. But I may be kidding myself because it is human nature for us to see what we want to see, hear what we want to hear and be deaf of blind to anything else. (If there are any psychologists out there I'm sure you'll back me up here.) Similarly, are we kidding ourselves about the comparative recording quality of traditional high quality cassette and the best mini discs? Does a good old Nak, Revox, Tandberg, Pioneer et al, it really outperform the latest digital technology? How many of us have really taken the time to compare the two properly, with benchmark measurements and blind listening tests? What about you professional recording guys? Your ears must be fined tuned and you probably have the gear to make some of the comparative measurements, too. What do you think? Are we fooling ourselves? Or, is cassette analogue recording at its best still better than MD or DAT , or even DCR at their best? (Can we have informed opinions joining in this debate, please? No brainless lumps of blind prejudice, please ... or I'll ask Aunt Joan to thwack the offender across the ear with her handbag. Right Aunt Joan?) Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > mdhjwh > Sent: 18 December 1999 22:29 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon revival and Nakamichi's new-born > mediocracy > > > > > Carlos wrote:>hopefully Santa would bring us a > Nakamichi 1000 ZXL or Dragon 21st. Century Edition !< > Given Nakamichi's two sadly mediocre recent decks, I hate to think > what they might do in resurrecting the Dragon. > To what extent is this the same company we once had great > respect for? Little resemblance I suggest. > > John H > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From NakamiKaze at hotmail.com Mon Dec 20 00:24:20 1999 From: NakamiKaze at hotmail.com (Matyas) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:24:20 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Naktalk Netiquette Message-ID: <19991219232625.10041.qmail@hotmail.com> Please try to apologise me for do not reply my promised comparison of Tandberg 3014a vs Nakamichi ZX7. It was done and I have write down my feelings about theirs differents sounds. The reasons for I didn't post it is a desease in my familly. I wonder about the meaning about such a comparison, after all, to compare the Tandberg esoteric deck to Nak ZX7 is a matter of 'style' and the whole sence of that comparison will be alterated by the driffting way the electronic components seem like to take. However it was a great moment for my ears. They both were exellents and the price gap between is excessive. -Litsening equipement : Magnepan loudspeakers, Sonic Frontiers 'Anthem'-valve amplifier- Studer A725 Cd player- and the Cassette beasts ) I know this theme were disserted after my original post, some months ago, but I fell responsible towards my promises.I am ready to write up a detailed result for the Naktalk, but considered the time I use to write in english and my lake of knowledge in well chosen 'hifist' words (I never read english hifi mags nor speak in english) I just wait a little sign of any of you to edit the result. I think my french words carfully translated -thanks to my dictionary- will done their work . I want also thank you Stephen Sank and Jeff Galin for yours kind answers, for some time your help was useless as my friend wasn't interessted by having his 600 II repaired at the dawn of the century... Today I bought him his 680 ZX and the 600 II . I know my task ;o) I like to see that's ever with the same eyes that people starts to know about how good a cassette might sound when it's seems too late to save the spirit of analogue. Yes Carlos, Santa could bring us a Nakalchemy 666 ZXL but the Japanese hard core culture absolutely never mind the Xmass ! However you shall know that the year 2000 into the chinese zodiac is a DRAGON cycle !!!! Then for asian new year ( February ) certainly Etsuro, Niro, Osamu, and Ted's great lore will flow again into a black metal factory somewhere to bring beyond as a sacrificial present the flame of their hate of mediocraty, a tribute to their adorers. Perhaps the production restart of a majority of spare parts for their highlights decks, that dosen't cost a lot to do and the standing of a Brand is somthing to stir up !!! follows me? perhaps it is more lucrative to make computers drivers and soudboxes that none want buy... WAKE UP NAKAMICHI ! Keep the firebreath wild ! I wish to everyone, a really good start into a millenium to built better every day !!! Matyas ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From kleimann at wt.net Mon Dec 20 01:11:09 1999 From: kleimann at wt.net (Rudy J. Kleimann III) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 18:11:09 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Re: ZX7/ZX9 voltage In-Reply-To: <385D31CA.4ABFB15D@siue.edu> References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> <3851008E.98D4D1D9@it.cas.cz> <001701bf4340$a5715860$56449cd1@jeffery> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991219181109.0080e100@mail.wt.net> According to my ZX-9 Brochure, its RATED output level spec. is: 1Volt, 2.2K ohms with 400HZ playback tone at 0dB with Output level control at maximum. I am certain it would have considerable headroom above this level, but how high? I couldn't say. Hope this information proves useful- Rudy At 01:28 PM 12/19/99 -0600, you wrote: >Does anyone know what the maximum output voltages/impedances on the ZX7 and ZX9 are? > >Thanks > >Michael > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Mon Dec 20 04:54:47 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sun, 19 Dec 1999 19:54:47 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] DeMagging Methodologies... Message-ID: Greetings! Let's have a discussion on demagging (demagnetzing) the tape transport mechanisms on Nak decks. I'm about to get a used DM-10 (in my xmas stocking over the fireplace), and I'd like to know the inside scoop on what should/shouldn't be demagged on my little black beauties. In the past, I've used those TDK and DiscWasher brand demag cassettes, with reasonable results - Mercy dear purists, I've seen the light now! . Kindly, would the experts out in NakTalk land share their insights with us up-and-coming users. Thanks!!! Mr Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From danielpoeana at worldnet.att.net Mon Dec 20 09:36:09 1999 From: danielpoeana at worldnet.att.net (Daniel Poeana) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 00:36:09 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Nak CA5 vs CA5 Mk2 References: Message-ID: <385DEA79.73D8DC3D@worldnet.att.net> Hello fellow NAKoholics, The recent comments about Nakamichi's current mediocrity triggered the following question for me: I have a "line" to two Nak Control Amplifiers (Pre amps); one is the CA5, the other is the newer version CA5 Mk2. Does anyone out there have any idea as to the "older" model vs. the "new" one (Mk2) comparison? This includes sonics, reliability, etc. ... Does anybody have a copy of the Service Manual for them (schematics)? Many Thanks, DanielP Beaverton OR USA ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From djosz at colby-sawyer.edu Mon Dec 20 12:46:29 1999 From: djosz at colby-sawyer.edu (Damon Josz) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 06:46:29 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] parts Message-ID: <004301bf4adf$dcac3920$310501cf@m5e0c7> And lets get on to another subject.....parts It was relayed to me that nak cleared the shelves of discontinued parts on old machines. And that these parts were bought by an independent, and hopefully for resale and not scrap! Now I wonder if this to be true and if Jeff or Steve know of this? I myself am looking for some cosmetics, in particular, black 610 faceplates, and biege meters, oh black handles too! Another option, decal replacement, yes the nice scripting plastered all over the faceplate. One of my units looks like it was cleaned with a fingernail, a majority of the script vanished, and the other preamp, in silver, just clashes soooo. I think the decal route may be the way to go, but that will be a stretch. I probably will just have to wait for a mint 610.....ahhhhh, the journey....and the destination! Damon ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From eslabs at prodigy.net Mon Dec 20 15:05:45 1999 From: eslabs at prodigy.net (Jeff Galin) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 09:05:45 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] parts References: <004301bf4adf$dcac3920$310501cf@m5e0c7> Message-ID: <001501bf4af3$b94cf500$12449cd1@jeffery> Damon, I did not get those parts. I only have only what I have bought over the last 25 years. I still have plenty of parts old and older including BX idlers , all belts, gear up-grade kits and etc. Sorry, I don't have these parts you need for your 610. I do know someone with a system one for sale. It has; rack,600, 610, 630, 620 and the red LED timer. They are in very good condition. Regards, Jeffrey Galin eslabs at prodigy.net (860)529-3700 ----- Original Message ----- From: Damon Josz To: Sent: Monday, December 20, 1999 6:46 AM Subject: [naktalk] parts > And lets get on to another subject.....parts > > It was relayed to me that nak cleared the shelves of discontinued parts on > old machines. > And that these parts were bought by an independent, and hopefully for resale > and not scrap! Now I wonder if this to be true and if Jeff or Steve know of > this? I myself am looking for some cosmetics, in particular, black 610 > faceplates, and biege meters, oh black handles too! Another option, decal > replacement, yes the nice scripting plastered all over the faceplate. One of > my units looks like it was cleaned with a fingernail, a majority of the > script vanished, and the other preamp, in silver, just clashes soooo. > I think the decal route may be the way to go, but that will be a stretch. I > probably will just have to wait for a mint 610.....ahhhhh, the > journey....and the destination! > > Damon > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Mon Dec 20 21:33:41 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:33:41 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] parts In-Reply-To: <004301bf4adf$dcac3920$310501cf@m5e0c7> Message-ID: <000801bf4b29$80c80e00$233c883e@a4s1s2> Don't know if it's true but before I dared to buy a 700XLS for a "bargain" price of about £400, save for it being reported to be in need of a service, I checked with the UK Nak' service centre and they said they could not provide all the necessary parts for a full service, that they could not even guarantee their work because of that. (So, in the absence of a Stephen Sank in the UK I decided to give the "bargain" a miss.) Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Damon Josz > Sent: 20 December 1999 11:46 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] parts > > > And lets get on to another subject.....parts > > It was relayed to me that nak cleared the shelves of discontinued parts on > old machines. > And that these parts were bought by an independent, and hopefully > for resale > and not scrap! Now I wonder if this to be true and if Jeff or > Steve know of > this? I myself am looking for some cosmetics, in particular, black 610 > faceplates, and biege meters, oh black handles too! Another option, decal > replacement, yes the nice scripting plastered all over the > faceplate. One of > my units looks like it was cleaned with a fingernail, a majority of the > script vanished, and the other preamp, in silver, just clashes soooo. > I think the decal route may be the way to go, but that will be a > stretch. I > probably will just have to wait for a mint 610.....ahhhhh, the > journey....and the destination! > > Damon > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Mon Dec 20 21:33:39 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 20:33:39 -0000 Subject: [naktalk] DeMagging Methodologies... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000701bf4b29$7f818440$233c883e@a4s1s2> I use an old Sony de-mag machine, the size of my hand including a horse shoe-like electro magnet. It works a treat except it can be a wee bit difficult getting it into tight spaces. I find this machine usually more effective than the de-mag cassettes I have tried (like from Tandy.) Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > The BlueSwapper > Sent: 20 December 1999 03:55 > To: NakTalk > Cc: Mr Blues > Subject: [naktalk] DeMagging Methodologies... > > > Greetings! > > Let's have a discussion on demagging (demagnetzing) the tape > transport mechanisms on Nak decks. I'm about to get a used DM-10 > (in my xmas stocking over the fireplace), and I'd like to know > the inside scoop on what should/shouldn't be demagged on my > little black beauties. In the past, I've used those TDK and > DiscWasher brand demag cassettes, with reasonable results - Mercy > dear purists, I've seen the light now! . Kindly, would the > experts out in NakTalk land share their insights with us > up-and-coming users. > > Thanks!!! > > Mr Blues > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------- > --------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Mon Dec 20 22:25:36 1999 From: Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 08:25:36 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 Message-ID: <199912202125.IAA10083@mail.neca.nec.com.au> Hi to all the fellow Nakaholics, I am in search for some help/advice. I bought a ZX-9 for about $200 Australian, but the unit had a problem with it. It plays back beautifully (one of the best sounding decks I've heard...even better than my BX-300), however it does not record. It started off that it could record but when using Dolby c type the left channel almost disappeared, I decided not to use dolby c and used dolby B. This was ok for a while then the unit decided not to erase any more and the mute lamp was fully on and the fader would not respond. If the unit was left in the record mode on for about 10 to 15 seconds a strange smell started to emit. I opened up the unit and found where the smell was coming from, a resistor in the Bias section was being driven hard (resistor R-310). I disconnected the resistor and guess what.. the functions are working again. The fader is responding, the mute button is back in operation but no erase, so the unit is not recording still. I would like to ask all of you out there if you know of a solution to this problem. Mr Sank if your reading this please reply. I have been reading the messages from this list and from what I've read you are a Guru with the Nakamichi equipment. I feel that this machine is worth fixing because it is nothing I've heard before, dare I say it rivals the average CD player. Thank you for reading Thomas Siomopoulos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mmishra at siue.edu Mon Dec 20 23:42:50 1999 From: mmishra at siue.edu (Michael Mishra) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:42:50 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Re: ZX7/ZX9 voltage References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> <3851008E.98D4D1D9@it.cas.cz> <001701bf4340$a5715860$56449cd1@jeffery> <3.0.5.32.19991219181109.0080e100@mail.wt.net> Message-ID: <385EB0E7.179FF74A@siue.edu> Rudy Thanks for the information. Michael "Rudy J. Kleimann III" wrote: > According to my ZX-9 Brochure, its RATED output level spec. is: 1Volt, 2.2K > ohms with 400HZ playback tone at 0dB with Output level control at maximum. > I am certain it would have considerable headroom above this level, but how > high? I couldn't say. > > Hope this information proves useful- > Rudy > > At 01:28 PM 12/19/99 -0600, you wrote: > >Does anyone know what the maximum output voltages/impedances on the ZX7 > and ZX9 are? > > > >Thanks > > > >Michael > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Tue Dec 21 00:08:49 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 1999 16:08:49 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 Message-ID: <184194.945731327.viking@emall-online.com> I think you have the whole list membership green with envy. Even with problems, you got a killer deal. Your primary problem is obviously a collapsed erase/bias oscillator circuit, brought on by a batch of poorly manufactured 0.0047ufd/50v polyester film capacitors. There are two that must be replaced, along with any associated transistors & resistors damaged as a result. This does not, however, account for(well, you never know, might fix everything) the channel dropout in recording, although this may simply be a need for cleaning of the bias selector switches, or perhaps some resoldering here & there. Not a problem I could easily nail down by remote control. The signal needs to be traced through the recording circuits while the dropout is occurring. Since playback is normal, I am assuming it not to be a mechanical issue. Do please try to find a service person that has Nak test tapes, and at least a Nak T-100 audio analyser. Let everybody know if you find such a person in Australia. Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ---------- > From: Thomas Siomopoulos > To: Naktalk mail list (E-mail) > Subject: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 > Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 2:25 PM > > Hi to all the fellow Nakaholics, > > I am in search for some help/advice. I bought a ZX-9 for about $200 > Australian, but the unit had a problem with it. It plays back > beautifully (one of the best sounding decks I've heard...even better > than my BX-300), however it does not record. It started off that it > could record but when using Dolby c type the left channel almost > disappeared, I decided not to use dolby c and used dolby B. This was ok > for a while then the unit decided not to erase any more and the mute > lamp was fully on and the fader would not respond. If the unit was left > in the record mode on for about 10 to 15 seconds a strange smell started > to emit. I opened up the unit and found where the smell was coming from, > a resistor in the Bias section was being driven hard (resistor R-310). I > disconnected the resistor and guess what.. the functions are working > again. The fader is responding, the mute button is back in operation but > no erase, so the unit is not recording still. > > I would like to ask all of you out there if you know of a solution to > this problem. Mr Sank if your reading this please reply. I have been > reading the messages from this list and from what I've read you are a > Guru with the Nakamichi equipment. I feel that this machine is worth > fixing because it is nothing I've heard before, dare I say it rivals the > average CD player. > > Thank you for reading > > > Thomas Siomopoulos > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Tue Dec 21 00:56:56 1999 From: Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 10:56:56 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 In-Reply-To: <184194.945731327.viking@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <199912202357.KAA15631@mail.neca.nec.com.au> Dear Mr Sank, I thank you very much for the reply. I will try this tonight. Many regards Thomas Siomopoulos P.S. And a very Merry Christmas to all of the Nakaholics.. May Santa put a Nak in your stocking...Dragon, CR7A, 1000ZXL..etc. -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Sank Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 1999 10:09 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 I think you have the whole list membership green with envy. Even with problems, you got a killer deal. Your primary problem is obviously a collapsed erase/bias oscillator circuit, brought on by a batch of poorly manufactured 0.0047ufd/50v polyester film capacitors. There are two that must be replaced, along with any associated transistors & resistors damaged as a result. This does not, however, account for(well, you never know, might fix everything) the channel dropout in recording, although this may simply be a need for cleaning of the bias selector switches, or perhaps some resoldering here & there. Not a problem I could easily nail down by remote control. The signal needs to be traced through the recording circuits while the dropout is occurring. Since playback is normal, I am assuming it not to be a mechanical issue. Do please try to find a service person that has Nak test tapes, and at least a Nak T-100 audio analyser. Let everybody know if you find such a person in Australia. Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ---------- > From: Thomas Siomopoulos > To: Naktalk mail list (E-mail) > Subject: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 > Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 2:25 PM > > Hi to all the fellow Nakaholics, > > I am in search for some help/advice. I bought a ZX-9 for about $200 > Australian, but the unit had a problem with it. It plays back > beautifully (one of the best sounding decks I've heard...even better > than my BX-300), however it does not record. It started off that it > could record but when using Dolby c type the left channel almost > disappeared, I decided not to use dolby c and used dolby B. This was ok > for a while then the unit decided not to erase any more and the mute > lamp was fully on and the fader would not respond. If the unit was left > in the record mode on for about 10 to 15 seconds a strange smell started > to emit. I opened up the unit and found where the smell was coming from, > a resistor in the Bias section was being driven hard (resistor R-310). I > disconnected the resistor and guess what.. the functions are working > again. The fader is responding, the mute button is back in operation but > no erase, so the unit is not recording still. > > I would like to ask all of you out there if you know of a solution to > this problem. Mr Sank if your reading this please reply. I have been > reading the messages from this list and from what I've read you are a > Guru with the Nakamichi equipment. I feel that this machine is worth > fixing because it is nothing I've heard before, dare I say it rivals the > average CD player. > > Thank you for reading > > > Thomas Siomopoulos > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --== ======= ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ruajw2 at idirect.com Tue Dec 21 19:21:24 1999 From: ruajw2 at idirect.com (Roland Alford) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 13:21:24 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Remote Control Cable for DR3 to RE1 In-Reply-To: <199912202125.IAA10083@mail.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: I need a little info from any of you guys or girls (Are there girl nakamaniacs??) out there. I just picked up (on ebay.com, a great place to look for Nakamichi components) a very clean, lightly used DR3 cassette deck to go with my system. I'm currently using an RE1 receiver. Here's my question: What cable is needed to link the DR3 to the RE1 for remote control operation? It looks like a 1/8" jack like you'd see for a walkman headphone. If so does it use the mono or stereo type? Or is there a special cable I need to order from Nakamichi. It says nothing about it the manual for the cassette deck. Roland ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Wed Dec 22 02:01:14 1999 From: Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 12:01:14 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 In-Reply-To: <184194.945731327.viking@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <199912220101.MAA11849@mail.neca.nec.com.au> Hi Mr Sank. Thank you for the information, and guess what...it worked!!! The problem with the left channel dropping during recording using Dolby c type NR is still there, so I will follow your suggestion and trace the signal with an oscilloscope. There is also a crackling sound during recording, this was there when I bought the unit but it slowly disappears after approximately 1 hours use. I think I will use the same method you suggested and trace the signal back to the source of the problem. In response to your query, I believe there is a service centre in Australia that has the Nakamichi test tapes. The name of the company is Scientific Control, they are located in Victoria, in a suburb called Ashwood. They are an authorised Nakamichi service centre. Once again I can't thank you enough. You are truly the Guru of Nakamichi. Best regards Thomas Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Sank Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 1999 10:09 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 I think you have the whole list membership green with envy. Even with problems, you got a killer deal. Your primary problem is obviously a collapsed erase/bias oscillator circuit, brought on by a batch of poorly manufactured 0.0047ufd/50v polyester film capacitors. There are two that must be replaced, along with any associated transistors & resistors damaged as a result. This does not, however, account for(well, you never know, might fix everything) the channel dropout in recording, although this may simply be a need for cleaning of the bias selector switches, or perhaps some resoldering here & there. Not a problem I could easily nail down by remote control. The signal needs to be traced through the recording circuits while the dropout is occurring. Since playback is normal, I am assuming it not to be a mechanical issue. Do please try to find a service person that has Nak test tapes, and at least a Nak T-100 audio analyser. Let everybody know if you find such a person in Australia. Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ---------- > From: Thomas Siomopoulos > To: Naktalk mail list (E-mail) > Subject: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 > Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 2:25 PM > > Hi to all the fellow Nakaholics, > > I am in search for some help/advice. I bought a ZX-9 for about $200 > Australian, but the unit had a problem with it. It plays back > beautifully (one of the best sounding decks I've heard...even better > than my BX-300), however it does not record. It started off that it > could record but when using Dolby c type the left channel almost > disappeared, I decided not to use dolby c and used dolby B. This was ok > for a while then the unit decided not to erase any more and the mute > lamp was fully on and the fader would not respond. If the unit was left > in the record mode on for about 10 to 15 seconds a strange smell started > to emit. I opened up the unit and found where the smell was coming from, > a resistor in the Bias section was being driven hard (resistor R-310). I > disconnected the resistor and guess what.. the functions are working > again. The fader is responding, the mute button is back in operation but > no erase, so the unit is not recording still. > > I would like to ask all of you out there if you know of a solution to > this problem. Mr Sank if your reading this please reply. I have been > reading the messages from this list and from what I've read you are a > Guru with the Nakamichi equipment. I feel that this machine is worth > fixing because it is nothing I've heard before, dare I say it rivals the > average CD player. > > Thank you for reading > > > Thomas Siomopoulos > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --== ======= ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From rbakley at nova.org Wed Dec 22 06:16:06 1999 From: rbakley at nova.org (Robert Bakley) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 00:16:06 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 In-Reply-To: <199912220101.MAA11849@mail.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <000a01bf4c3b$a8276a00$0a00a8c0@168.0.2> Hi Thomas, Don't bother trying to trace the signal. The problem is with the Capstan Belt. In a closed loop dual capstan system, the take-up capstan needs to turn slightly faster than the supply capstan. This maintains a slight tension of the tape across the tape heads to maintain the close contact between the heads and the tape. When the belt is worn it will slip and not maintain the speed difference. The left channel is the outer channel on the tape and it is the first channel to experience problems. With the capstan motor off take a look at the capstan motor pulley. If the belt shifts laterally on the motor pulley when the capstan motor starts, change the belt. The belt number should be 0C08096C. I believe that is the correct belt for this model. These are still available from Nakamichi. bob rbakley at nova.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of Thomas Siomopoulos Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 8:01 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: RE: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 Hi Mr Sank. Thank you for the information, and guess what...it worked!!! The problem with the left channel dropping during recording using Dolby c type NR is still there, so I will follow your suggestion and trace the signal with an oscilloscope. There is also a crackling sound during recording, this was there when I bought the unit but it slowly disappears after approximately 1 hours use. I think I will use the same method you suggested and trace the signal back to the source of the problem. In response to your query, I believe there is a service centre in Australia that has the Nakamichi test tapes. The name of the company is Scientific Control, they are located in Victoria, in a suburb called Ashwood. They are an authorised Nakamichi service centre. Once again I can't thank you enough. You are truly the Guru of Nakamichi. Best regards Thomas Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of Stephen Sank Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 1999 10:09 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 I think you have the whole list membership green with envy. Even with problems, you got a killer deal. Your primary problem is obviously a collapsed erase/bias oscillator circuit, brought on by a batch of poorly manufactured 0.0047ufd/50v polyester film capacitors. There are two that must be replaced, along with any associated transistors & resistors damaged as a result. This does not, however, account for(well, you never know, might fix everything) the channel dropout in recording, although this may simply be a need for cleaning of the bias selector switches, or perhaps some resoldering here & there. Not a problem I could easily nail down by remote control. The signal needs to be traced through the recording circuits while the dropout is occurring. Since playback is normal, I am assuming it not to be a mechanical issue. Do please try to find a service person that has Nak test tapes, and at least a Nak T-100 audio analyser. Let everybody know if you find such a person in Australia. Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ---------- > From: Thomas Siomopoulos > To: Naktalk mail list (E-mail) > Subject: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 > Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 2:25 PM > > Hi to all the fellow Nakaholics, > > I am in search for some help/advice. I bought a ZX-9 for about $200 > Australian, but the unit had a problem with it. It plays back > beautifully (one of the best sounding decks I've heard...even better > than my BX-300), however it does not record. It started off that it > could record but when using Dolby c type the left channel almost > disappeared, I decided not to use dolby c and used dolby B. This was ok > for a while then the unit decided not to erase any more and the mute > lamp was fully on and the fader would not respond. If the unit was left > in the record mode on for about 10 to 15 seconds a strange smell started > to emit. I opened up the unit and found where the smell was coming from, > a resistor in the Bias section was being driven hard (resistor R-310). I > disconnected the resistor and guess what.. the functions are working > again. The fader is responding, the mute button is back in operation but > no erase, so the unit is not recording still. > > I would like to ask all of you out there if you know of a solution to > this problem. Mr Sank if your reading this please reply. I have been > reading the messages from this list and from what I've read you are a > Guru with the Nakamichi equipment. I feel that this machine is worth > fixing because it is nothing I've heard before, dare I say it rivals the > average CD player. > > Thank you for reading > > > Thomas Siomopoulos > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --== ======= ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Message-ID: Another example of how far Nakaholics will go to obtain a pristine black beauty........ http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220006449 The only question I have is, Who's holding the Nak brochures? Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Wed Dec 22 07:00:43 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 1999 23:00:43 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 References: <000a01bf4c3b$a8276a00$0a00a8c0@168.0.2> Message-ID: <3860690B.FCD4AD88@emall-online.com> I'm afraid you are incorrect, as the symptom does not exist in playback mode. There would also be a loss of high end first as the signal disappears. Robert Bakley wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > Don't bother trying to trace the signal. The problem is with the Capstan > Belt. > In a closed loop dual capstan system, the take-up capstan needs to turn > slightly > faster than the supply capstan. This maintains a slight tension of the tape > across the tape heads to maintain the close contact between the heads and > the > tape. When the belt is worn it will slip and not maintain the speed > difference. > The left channel is the outer channel on the tape and it is the first > channel to > experience problems. With the capstan motor off take a look at the capstan > motor > pulley. If the belt shifts laterally on the motor pulley when the capstan > motor > starts, change the belt. > > The belt number should be 0C08096C. I believe that is the correct belt for > this > model. These are still available from Nakamichi. > > bob > rbakley at nova.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Thomas Siomopoulos > Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 1999 8:01 PM > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 > > Hi Mr Sank. > > Thank you for the information, and guess what...it worked!!! The > problem with the left channel dropping during recording using Dolby c > type NR is still there, so I will follow your suggestion and trace the > signal with an oscilloscope. There is also a crackling sound during > recording, this was there when I bought the unit but it slowly > disappears after approximately 1 hours use. I think I will use the same > method you suggested and trace the signal back to the source of the > problem. > > In response to your query, I believe there is a service centre in > Australia that has the Nakamichi test tapes. The name of the company is > Scientific Control, they are located in Victoria, in a suburb called > Ashwood. They are an authorised Nakamichi service centre. > > Once again I can't thank you enough. You are truly the Guru of > Nakamichi. > > Best regards > > Thomas Siomopoulos. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Stephen Sank > Sent: Tuesday, 21 December 1999 10:09 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 > > I think you have the whole list membership green with envy. Even with > problems, you got a killer deal. > Your primary problem is obviously a collapsed erase/bias oscillator > circuit, brought on by a batch of poorly manufactured 0.0047ufd/50v > polyester film capacitors. There are two that must be replaced, along > with > any associated transistors & resistors damaged as a result. This does > not, > however, account for(well, you never know, might fix everything) the > channel dropout in recording, although this may simply be a need for > cleaning of the bias selector switches, or perhaps some resoldering here > & > there. Not a problem I could easily nail down by remote control. The > signal needs to be traced through the recording circuits while the > dropout > is occurring. Since playback is normal, I am assuming it not to be a > mechanical issue. Do please try to find a service person that has Nak > test > tapes, and at least a Nak T-100 audio analyser. Let everybody know if > you > find such a person in Australia. > > Stephen Sank, Owner > Champlain Valley Speaker Company > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. > Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] > phone/fax 505-296-8795 > > ---------- > > From: Thomas Siomopoulos > > To: Naktalk mail list (E-mail) > > Subject: [naktalk] Problem with my ZX-9 > > Date: Monday, December 20, 1999 2:25 PM > > > > Hi to all the fellow Nakaholics, > > > > I am in search for some help/advice. I bought a ZX-9 for about $200 > > Australian, but the unit had a problem with it. It plays back > > beautifully (one of the best sounding decks I've heard...even better > > than my BX-300), however it does not record. It started off that it > > could record but when using Dolby c type the left channel almost > > disappeared, I decided not to use dolby c and used dolby B. This was > ok > > for a while then the unit decided not to erase any more and the mute > > lamp was fully on and the fader would not respond. If the unit was > left > > in the record mode on for about 10 to 15 seconds a strange smell > started > > to emit. I opened up the unit and found where the smell was coming > from, > > a resistor in the Bias section was being driven hard (resistor R-310). > I > > disconnected the resistor and guess what.. the functions are working > > again. The fader is responding, the mute button is back in operation > but > > no erase, so the unit is not recording still. > > > > I would like to ask all of you out there if you know of a solution to > > this problem. Mr Sank if your reading this please reply. I have been > > reading the messages from this list and from what I've read you are a > > Guru with the Nakamichi equipment. I feel that this machine is worth > > fixing because it is nothing I've heard before, dare I say it rivals > the > > average CD player. > > > > Thank you for reading > > > > > > Thomas Siomopoulos > > > > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- > --== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- > --== > ======= > > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- > --========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- > --========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -- Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From neut6o1 at gladstone.uoregon.edu Wed Dec 22 23:51:22 1999 From: neut6o1 at gladstone.uoregon.edu (Chris Heady) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 14:51:22 -0800 Subject: [naktalk] Weird Problem with Nak 582 Message-ID: <000a01bf4ccf$1182f6c0$0200000a@h1xmk> Hello everybody, I have a problem with my 582, I stopped in the middle of it playing normally a few hours ago. I noticed later that the stop light was not illuminated anymore. When I tried to start a tape playing again, I couldn't hear anything. I then turned up the volume on my amp all the way and I could hear the tape playing just barely. Have any of you heard of the stop light on a 582 controlling the output of the machine? I checked the wires and they seem to not be the problem. Also does anyone have any ideas for how to fix it. I have to pay my good Nakamichi mechanic $37.50 just to get an estimate (it goes towards any fixes that are done also) so I hope to be able to fix it before it comes to that. Thanks. -Chris Heady "Chicken pot, Chicken pot, Chicken pot pie" -David Cross -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kurtis.bahr at lmco.com Thu Dec 23 00:01:35 1999 From: kurtis.bahr at lmco.com (Bahr, Kurtis) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 18:01:35 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Weird Problem with Nak 582 Message-ID: <0C73AA5F720CD311AC2A0008C7DBA9B45FA69D@emss09m13.ems.lmco.com> You can either install a new bulb or place a 1K resistor across it, that is supposed to be the fix. Yes this is an issue with the 580, 581 and 582. Burnt out light mutes the output. Kurtis A happy 581 owner > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Heady [SMTP:neut6o1 at gladstone.uoregon.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 5:51 PM > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Weird Problem with Nak 582 > > Hello everybody, > I have a problem with my 582, I stopped in the middle of it playing > normally a few hours ago. I noticed later that the stop light was not > illuminated anymore. When I tried to start a tape playing again, I > couldn't hear anything. I then turned up the volume on my amp all the way > and I could hear the tape playing just barely. Have any of you heard of > the stop light on a 582 controlling the output of the machine? I checked > the wires and they seem to not be the problem. Also does anyone have any > ideas for how to fix it. I have to pay my good Nakamichi mechanic $37.50 > just to get an estimate (it goes towards any fixes that are done also) so > I hope to be able to fix it before it comes to that. Thanks. > > > > -Chris Heady > "Chicken pot, Chicken pot, Chicken pot pie" -David Cross ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Thu Dec 23 00:51:45 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:51:45 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Weird Problem with Nak 582 References: <000a01bf4ccf$1182f6c0$0200000a@h1xmk> Message-ID: <38616411.F0A56DA3@emall-online.com> The 582 did have a peculiarity in that the stop lamp was inexplicably tied in with the muting circuits. Replacing the lamp(with the proper one) should cure it, for sure. > Chris Heady wrote: > > Hello everybody, > I have a problem with my 582, I stopped in the middle of it > playing normally a few hours ago. I noticed later that the stop light > was not illuminated anymore. When I tried to start a tape playing > again, I couldn't hear anything. I then turned up the volume on my amp > all the way and I could hear the tape playing just barely. Have any of > you heard of the stop light on a 582 controlling the output of the > machine? I checked the wires and they seem to not be the problem. Also > does anyone have any ideas for how to fix it. I have to pay my good > Nakamichi mechanic $37.50 just to get an estimate (it goes towards any > fixes that are done also) so I hope to be able to fix it before it > comes to that. Thanks. > > > > -Chris Heady > "Chicken pot, Chicken pot, Chicken pot pie" -David Cross -- Stephen Sank, Owner Champlain Valley Speaker Company http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] phone/fax 505-296-8795 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Wed Dec 22 20:27:59 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 19:27:59 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Taiwanese vs. Japanese Naks References: <199911291512.QAA17639@zebra.naks.com> <001f01bf40e1$b99a9c40$812f2ac4@coqui.net> <029901bf4291$e9cbc540$6f6f6f6f@interactive.kiev.ua> <3851008E.98D4D1D9@it.cas.cz> <001701bf4340$a5715860$56449cd1@jeffery> <385D31CA.4ABFB15D@siue.edu> Message-ID: <3861263F.4AC5@bestweb.net> Nakfans, I can't remember who asked about the comparison between Taiwanese Naks and Japanese Naks, but I'm certain everyone on the list will be interested in the following letter I received way back in 1993, when the only Nak I owned was the humble (yet excellent) CR-1A. ( Among other Nak classics, I now own a Dragon. I gave the CR-1A to my son...) I had had a heated argument with a fellow Nak lover, who said he had heard the Taiwanese Naks SUCKED. He even maintained the Taiwan Naks used substandard parts. I told him I was pretty happy with the 1A and thought his claim were unsubstantiated. I was moved to write Nak about the controversy. Here is the letter I received back from the then Manager of Nak Technical Support/Customer Relations: "Dear Mr. Bergman, I am responding to your letter dated July 8. Every Nakamichi ever made is, indeed, a "genuine" Nakamichi. Every deck that has ever borne our name has been made in Nakamichi factories, and uses heads designed and built by Nakamichi. Your friend may have been confused by the fact that the CR-1A, CR-2A, CR-3A and CR-4A models were built in Taiwan (at a factory that was at that time owned and operated by Nakamichi,) whereas all other Nakamichi decks have been built in our factories in Japan. However, the heads and transport mechanisms for the four Taiwan-built models were built in our Japan factory, and shipped to Taiwan as completed assemblies. (We have since sold the Taiwan facility and all of our cassette decks are again produced in Japan.) Any parts sourced from other vendors are built to our specifications and are put through extensive quality-assurance testing before they are used in our products. Finally, each of our products is tested and adjusted for maximum performnance before it is packed for shipment, and its performance is guaranteed to equal or exceed its original performance specifications for the entire length of its manufacturer's warranty period. Your contention that many of our models share technologies is true to one extent or another. (For instance, the Taiwan-built CR-4A and Japan-built CR-7A decks have indentical transport mechanisms and heads, although there are a number of features that differentiate the two models.) It has always been a hallmark of Nakamichi products that many of the technologies found in our top-of-the-line models have been incorporated in our less expensive models, giving these models performance exceeding that of comparably-priced products offered by other manufacturers. All of this distills down into one thing: sound quality. You observe that your CR-1A has "startlingly good sound...", and in the end it is a compomnent's sound that is by far the most importrant thing about it, not the country of its manufacture or the pedigree of its parts. Nakamichi decks have earned a reputation for having the most accurate sound in the cassette deck industry, and we intend to continue to live up to that reputation now and in the future. Thank you for your letter, and for your purchase of Nakamichi products. Sincerely. Hyam R. Sosnow Manager, Technical Support/Customer Relations" Draw your own conclusions... Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From EMM593 at aol.com Thu Dec 23 04:34:56 1999 From: EMM593 at aol.com (EMM593 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 22:34:56 EST Subject: [naktalk] BX-100 repair needed Message-ID: <0.c9f9ba8.2592f260@aol.com> Greetings: I recently purchased a BX-100 that is physically and mechanically in good shape, but in bad need of calibration (azymuth alignment and playback seems okay- but the record bias seems to be off and the previous owner advised he had not idea what he was doing when he opened up the deck and tried "turning some pots") No telling what was done so I would much rather take it to someone who knows what they are doing and have it brought up to factory specs. I am looking for the name of a good Nak certified repair center in the Atlanta, GA area. While there are many places in other states, I would much rather hand deliver this machine and pick up verusus trusting it to UPS, Fed Ex or USPS- had too many items damaged. Any help could be appreciated. Thanks and happy holidays, E Bagby emm593 at aol.com Proud owner of now four Naks- the latest beign the BX-100. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From DWEMD2 at aol.com Fri Dec 24 00:09:15 1999 From: DWEMD2 at aol.com (DWEMD2 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Dec 1999 18:09:15 EST Subject: [naktalk] Taiwanese vs. Japanese Naks Message-ID: <0.113bed3c.2594059b@aol.com> Hi, Tom, Thanks for sharing the great letter comparing Japanese and Taiwanese Naks. Mythologies seem to have a life of their own but I hope this lucid and thoughtful letter will lay the matter to rest. Regards, Don ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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URL: From mcpas at compcom.com.au Wed Dec 29 13:10:33 1999 From: mcpas at compcom.com.au (Tony McKay) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 23:10:33 +1100 Subject: [naktalk] Weird Problem with Nak 582 Message-ID: this is the first time i have used naktalk so if I muck it up i muck it up, the problem with the stop lamp affecting the mute circuit is caused by the lamp being used as a pull up in the mute cct as a lamp is virtually a constant current source when it is turned off it will pull the mute line almost to 12v. replacing with a fixed resistor will cure in play but during cue if anyone ever uses it may not be so successful. i always fit a fet wired as a ccs. this problem affected 580's through to 682's. the effects on 480's are even wierder. have fun. regards tony mckay ---------- > From: Stephen Sank2 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Weird Problem with Nak 582 > Date: Thursday, December 23, 1999 10:51 AM > > The 582 did have a peculiarity in that the stop lamp was inexplicably > tied in with the muting circuits. Replacing the lamp(with the proper > one) should cure it, for sure. > > > > Chris Heady wrote: > > > > Hello everybody, > > I have a problem with my 582, I stopped in the middle of it > > playing normally a few hours ago. I noticed later that the stop light > > was not illuminated anymore. When I tried to start a tape playing > > again, I couldn't hear anything. I then turned up the volume on my amp > > all the way and I could hear the tape playing just barely. Have any of > > you heard of the stop light on a 582 controlling the output of the > > machine? I checked the wires and they seem to not be the problem. Also > > does anyone have any ideas for how to fix it. I have to pay my good > > Nakamichi mechanic $37.50 just to get an estimate (it goes towards any > > fixes that are done also) so I hope to be able to fix it before it > > comes to that. Thanks. > > > > > > > > -Chris Heady > > "Chicken pot, Chicken pot, Chicken pot pie" -David Cross > > -- > Stephen Sank, Owner > Champlain Valley Speaker Company > http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm > 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. > Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] > phone/fax 505-296-8795 > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\1999\1999-3.txt ************************************************************************ From mcpas at compcom.com.au Mon Mar 1 20:59:01 1999 From: mcpas at compcom.com.au (Tony McKay) Date: Mon, 01 Mar 99 11:59:01 PST Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: FS:Nakamichi decks] In-Reply-To: <86256890.0078C888.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> References: Conversation <86256890.0078C888.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> with last message <86256890.0078C888.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> Message-ID: i thought this kind of debate would have finished by now. as far perception of differences between various components i believe that under suitable conditions (mainly care in set up and lack of pre-conceived ideas) all sorts of differences can be heard. right down to different types of solder used in interconnects( with the subject unaware of what had been changed) as far as dynamic range of cds is concerned i'll never forget the laughter of a confirmed 'digiphile' comparing the same lp to cd many years ago, the lp killed cd and as digital is perfect then the equipment used must be irrelevant. try branford marsalis, requeim on cd for a great cd. i couldn't start to list all the great sounding lps. i beleive there are some good sounding cds but many more great sounding lps. try listening to any original pressings of miles. ---------- > Boy, you guys should listen to Sony's remaster of the Miles Davis Quartet from > the 1960s. That is CD remastering at its finest, the music actually lives in > the listening room. > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== == > ===== > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== == > ===== ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mcpas at compcom.com.au Tue Mar 2 20:34:10 1999 From: mcpas at compcom.com.au (Tony McKay) Date: Tue, 02 Mar 99 11:34:10 PST Subject: [naktalk] Need advice In-Reply-To: <033201bf82a6$538880a0$6f6f6f6f@1> References: Conversation <003301bf772c$b3d96b20$080b86cc@sank1> with last message <033201bf82a6$538880a0$6f6f6f6f@1> Message-ID: if you can grab a da09044 metal mod kit regards Tony ---------- > Dear Stephen, > > I found what was problem with recording head in my Nak 700. > Ferrite core in left channel has crack - so, there is two gaps > instead of one - great losses and bad quality. So I need your > advice - what other deck used 700/1000 recording head? > Please let me know if any - so I'll try to find good used one. > Unfortunately $250 that Jeff Galin charged is too much for me :( > > Thanks a lot for your help! > > Mike > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== == > ===== > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== == > ===== ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mcpas at compcom.com.au Wed Mar 3 20:50:01 1999 From: mcpas at compcom.com.au (Tony McKay) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 99 11:50:01 PST Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: FS:Nakamichi decks] In-Reply-To: <000501bf83b7$2cb55b80$a951883e@a4s1s2> References: Conversation <20000301160024.7210.qmail@web114.yahoomail.com> with last message <000501bf83b7$2cb55b80$a951883e@a4s1s2> Message-ID: maybe so, but if you can reliably here a difference then there is a difference, the diference is not always comensurate with price, always with comensurate with your predujices. tony ---------- > Ron said: > > Well, let's not even go into CD players... There > is no question that any correctly working CD drive > is absolutely, mathematically, identical to any > other correctly working CD drive, by definition. > We can only discuss this point if you fully > understand digital technology. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mcpas at compcom.com.au Wed Mar 3 20:53:05 1999 From: mcpas at compcom.com.au (Tony McKay) Date: Wed, 03 Mar 99 11:53:05 PST Subject: [naktalk] Noise Reduction In-Reply-To: References: Conversation <20000226170309.7337.qmail@web125.yahoomail.com> with last message Message-ID: i'm sure it is a dual band compander, ie like dolby(tm)b (a single band high freq compander) but with 2 bands low and high freq. after serial number f10202197 they had significant improvements, the large ics in the newer or updates ones are u401br(old u401b) it could be very extremely loosely compatible with dolby(tm) b or c. dbxs are generally full band companders, therefore the is the possiblilty that low freq signal can modulate high freq noise levels and viceversa although you would be less likely to notice. tony ---------- > Browsing through E-bay, I came across a Nakamichi High-Com II Noise > Reduction unit: > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271910234 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\1999\1999-6.txt ************************************************************************ From jkvision at online.no Thu Jun 24 19:57:47 1999 From: jkvision at online.no (Jan Kihle) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 19:57:47 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Five rare Nakas for sale! Message-ID: After 23 years of perfect audio enjoyment I am selling following pieces in mint(!) condition including all user and service manuals: -Nak 600 Cassette console black with custom Naka logo lid in brushed relief aluminium (1977) -Nak 630 Tuner/Preamp (1978) -Nak 620 x 2 Power amplifiers incl. BA-150 bridging adapter (350W @ 8 ohm) with WBT terminals and deep blue LED power indicators (1978) -Nak System One rack with timer, bottom plate in gold inscription on matte black: "(logo) + Nakamichi Research Inc." (1978) -Nak CA-5 Preamp with massive Yew side plates. (1984) Poweramps are 110/117/230/240 V, all others are 230 V only. NOT A SCRATCH VISIBLE! Photographic documentation available for all pieces (for serious bidders only) Preferably sold to Scandinavian Naka enthousiasts due to transport/insurance expences. Selling all items as one lot for NOK 20.000,- Single items on request. Jan, Norway ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck page. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\1999\1999-8.txt ************************************************************************ From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Fri Aug 13 20:20:04 1999 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sat, 14 Aug 1999 01:20:04 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] PADLIFTERS References: <00bb01c0c395$b85697c0$f81a9bca@smarzuki> <000801c0c421$f73849c0$94289bca@smarzuki> <3AD71B7F.E5B57CDC@concentric.net> Message-ID: <003f01bee5b8$77405300$50289bca@smarzuki> Hi Marcus and Ron, As my intention in the first place was to prolong remaining head life (somehow I collect almost-worn heads), that lifter seems to be a good idea provided the deck is able to perform well with lifter installed. I, like most others, have read that one of Nak's hallmark was to achieve tape tension so good that made Nak the *only* deck that can do without pressure pad. So I was skeptical if this 'lowly' sony can also do that - first try went south and I need to bend the supply roller stopper to increase pressure. Voila ! Look mom, no pad. :-) I don't think transport has to be as high as Nak standard for padlifter issue - but clearly real-nak transport has its own advantages. I used to pull out the lifter on my Nak to be able to visually align tape edge to head slot - and sometimes forgot to put it back when I proceed to test the deck with sweeps. After two runs usually I noticed something wrong with the curve in that it look more jagged. Of course when I put the lifter back the curve is smoother. On pre-recorded tapes I can't hear noticable difference with / without lifter unless on blank / silent passage where this 'scrape' flutter can be clearly heard. I think it's more on the bad quality of mass market tapes. Overall I 'like' the sound of my sony better with lifter installed, but can't explain exactly in which area it is better, other than it sounds more 'solid' - less variance. Maybe that is reduction of scrape flutter at work. Ron, I lost you on second paragraph below. Are you saying removal of padlifters or removal of pads on single capstan deck ? I think I saw a lifter on DR3 but I'm not really sure. Interesting history on that 24 hr tape - how high did the fr go ? Cheers, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron" To: <...> For starters, I would be really surprised if removal of the pad lifters would work well for a single capstan mechanism, since tape pressure would become a function of tape reel diameter and will change during play. <... > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Sat Aug 7 03:48:18 1999 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sat, 7 Aug 1999 08:48:18 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Top 10, Etc ... References: Message-ID: <001101bee077$9e21d520$5c289bca@smarzuki> Howdy, neighbour. :-) I tried painfully to find spare Nak head in this area and finally got a friendly reply from somebody whose business is more on Nak cd changers used in tower records, hmmv etc. His name is Alan Lo and can be contacted at shingtec at singnet.com.sg. I think he may be able to give references for a good shop in Sin which should be okay for generic repair. I wouldn't expect Sank class treatment though ... Salim SM Jakarta, Indonesia ----- Original Message ----- From: "chua jeffrey" To: Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 11:34 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Top 10, Etc ... > Well, Carlos, I can't agree with you more. I owned a few decks in the past, > mostly Naka. Of course I also had 2 Teac, an Akai. Presently I still have an > 1000ZXL and a DRAGON. The 1000ZXL was wonderful after it was serviced by > Steven Sank last year. Unfortunately a few months ago due to whatever reason > unknown to me, it could not power up (may be shorted). I have yet to send > for repair. Now I am making use of my only DRAGON for taping and playback. I > am getting use to the DRAGON due to the use of use and compared to the > 1000ZXL and great sounding too. I would still want to find someone closer > home (Singapore) to service my 1000ZXL in the near future. Any Naka fan who > knows of any other good service personnel available? > > Jeff ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Thu Aug 12 17:08:40 1999 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:08:40 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Off Topic - Integrated HT system vs. separate2-channel & HT systems References: <9.198b136b.28a36ecb@aol.com> <001c01c1209e$783efcc0$43289bca@smarzuki> <3B72E6BE.A00CD3F1@concentric.net> <027401c1210d$49924a20$3c031fac@brianm> <5.1.0.14.0.20010811183520.02755b40@pop3.paradise.net.nz> <3B753DF9.21CACB6D@concentric.net> <3B756B21.777A8B3B@earthlink.net> <3B759029.4314A1FE@concentric.net> Message-ID: <000801bee4d4$aff63320$44289bca@smarzuki> Hi Ron, Have to disagree on this one ... guess what was Stereophile's "Recommended Components 2000", "A/V Receivers", class "AAA" ? ... surprise surprise ... Denon AVR 5700 ! Well actually it's SGtHT (S'phile Guide to HT) mar/apr 2000 edition. Complete list: Class AAA: Denon AVR 5700 $2800, Onkyo TX-DS939 $2800, Yamaha DSP-A1 $2600 Class AA: Sony STR-DA90ESG $1600 Class A: Denon AVR 3200 $1000, Marantz SR880 $1500, Sherwood R-945 $1300, Yamaha RX-V793 $800, Yamaha RX-V2095 $1600 Class B: Onkyo TX-DS575 $530, Technics SA-AX6 $400 Not actually pooh-pooh ... :-) IMHO that's real apple to apple comparison, as HT separates are put on different category (your Aragon 8008 is numero uno on the amp list). Interesting to see that Yamaha 793 as class A rec'd component ... it sounds nowhere close to my humble Nak AV2s. And in 2ch setting I'm pretty sure you'll also prefer low wattage SR3 driving similar speaker. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron" To: Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 3:06 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Off Topic - Integrated HT system vs. separate2-channel & HT systems > > Jim, with all due respect to John Atkinson and Stereophile, > this is absolutely the last place I would look for a > review of a full featured HT receiver that goes for $1200 > to $1300 (street price). They are absolutely guaranteed > to pooh-pooh it. > > OTOH, read Sight & Sound -- they absolutely raved about > the AVR-4800. Home Theater just loved it. Peruse all the > comments on AudioReviews -- 125 reader evaluation of the > Denon 4800 averaged 4.77 out of 5. That's 95.4% positive > recommendations. > > A letter to the editor describes Stereophile readers' > response to the AVR-4800 review: > > Sir, I own a Denon AVR-4800 receiver and I > don't think you know what you're talking > about. Denon is one of the finest audio > companies that I know of. Every magazine > that has reviewed the Denon AVR-4800 can't > say enough good stuff about it. > [....] > Denon has higher-end two-channel components > that are just as good as anything out there, > even at 10 times the price. How dare you call > Denon "mid-fi components recommended for people > who don't like music but have to fill empty > spaces in their TV wall units"? > > In short, Jim, Stereophile is full of it. > > Incidentally, Denon themselves have the AVR-5800, at double > to triple the price of the 4800, that is better. However, > there are zillions of people that are not willing (or able) > to pay the stiff price difference for a quality difference > that may not be proportionately significant to them. > > Denon also has separate pre/pro and power amps (at double > to triple the price of the 5800) that perform better than > the 5800 still. Again, not everyone can afford the kilobucks > difference, or even appreciate the improvement. > > All of us in this hobby tend to suffer from a streak of > perfectionism. Still, let's not lose our sense of > proportion. > The Denon AVR-4800 is one of the better HT receivers out > there. Probably, one of the best in it's price range. > > -- Ron ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Thu Aug 12 17:26:55 1999 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 22:26:55 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Off Topic - Integrated HT system vs. separate2-channel & HT systems References: <9.198b136b.28a36ecb@aol.com> <001c01c1209e$783efcc0$43289bca@smarzuki> <3B72E6BE.A00CD3F1@concentric.net> <027401c1210d$49924a20$3c031fac@brianm> <5.1.0.14.0.20010811183520.02755b40@pop3.paradise.net.nz> <3B753DF9.21CACB6D@concentric.net> <3B756B21.777A8B3B@earthlink.net> <3B759029.4314A1FE@concentric.net> <3B75AA21.A5D5A6E@earthlink.net> <001b01c122d1$e70bbd20$5c289bca@smarzuki> <3B760E12.7BD37CBC@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <000f01bee4d7$1cf9ff40$44289bca@smarzuki> Hi Jim, gif or anything else will do for a good read ... :-) Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Volpatti" To: Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2001 12:03 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Off Topic - Integrated HT system vs. separate2-channel & HT systems > No Salim, I do not. I went to Stereophile's website hoping that I would > be there but I had no luck. I have the issue here and can scan it for > anyone who's interested. I can't create a pdf file because I only have > the Acrobat reader. > > Jim Volpatti > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Mon Aug 9 22:31:33 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 22:31:33 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] New address: naktalk@naks.com Message-ID: <37AF3AA5.C2133CE1@xs4all.nl> Hi everyone! I have moved naktalk to a new address and a new server: naktalk at naks.com You hay have noticed that the geocities webpage points to www.naks.com and now the mailinglist is hosted on this server as well. I use the same software as I did until the beginning of this year, this makes it also possible to use a digest version of the list! So send any new naktalk mail to: naktalk at naks.com !!! Wouter ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From krogers at u-r-online.com Tue Aug 10 03:25:51 1999 From: krogers at u-r-online.com (Kevin Rogers) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:25:51 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] FS: Dragon Message-ID: <003401bee2cf$49ef9be0$8a1726d8@krogers> Hello all. I have 2 Dragons, so one has to go! It is in excellent condition, with new pinch rollers and mechanism belt and a recent alignment by Sonic Sense. I have the original manual, but not box, however I am very good at packing. Offers? Kevin Rogers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From woodfall at yahoo.com Tue Aug 10 04:02:07 1999 From: woodfall at yahoo.com (patrick cronin) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 19:02:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [naktalk] FS: Dragon Message-ID: <19990810020207.26895.rocketmail@web123.yahoomail.com> --- Kevin Rogers wrote: > Hello all. I have 2 Dragons, so one has to go! It is > in excellent condition, with new pinch rollers and > mechanism belt and a recent alignment by Sonic > Sense. I have the original manual, but not box, > however I am very good at packing. Offers? > > Kevin Rogers > um, my wife?? no just kidding, dont have the cash now, but just couldnt pass that one by. have a nice day :) _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Brian.Jacobsen at mail.ntc.mnscu.edu Tue Aug 10 04:29:45 1999 From: Brian.Jacobsen at mail.ntc.mnscu.edu (Jacobsen, Brian) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:29:45 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] FS: Dragon Message-ID: <4710EDAF9001D311A6310000D11BABE50624A1@WAYNE> hi not sure why i am getting these messages but am not interested in getting them.   thanks   Jake -----Original Message----- From: Kevin Rogers [mailto:krogers at u-r-online.com] Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 8:26 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] FS: Dragon Hello all. I have 2 Dragons, so one has to go! It is in excellent condition, with new pinch rollers and mechanism belt and a recent alignment by Sonic Sense.  I have the original manual, but not box, however I am very good at packing. Offers?   Kevin Rogers ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From gcpj at mediaone.net Tue Aug 10 06:43:47 1999 From: gcpj at mediaone.net (gcpj at mediaone.net) Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 21:43:47 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] FS: RX-303 References: <003401bee2cf$49ef9be0$8a1726d8@krogers> Message-ID: <37AFAE03.3AA29F33@mediaone.net> Hey All, I have a near mint RX-303 I'm ready to part with. Have orginal box, manual, and dealer product brochures (I am willing to send color copies to someone who will post these on the Nak site--or wants them for other purposes). The original owner was an audiophile, but rarely used this deck, neither have I. Please contact me if your interested (gcpj at mediaone.net). Patrick Juetten ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de Tue Aug 10 07:58:47 1999 From: Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de (Fendt Klaus) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 07:58:47 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Abwesenheitsnotiz Message-ID: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F15F@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Hi Guys, sorry about a very senseless mail some of you got from me. Please don't worry about this absolute stupid thing the MS Exchange server did here. Normally when I'm not in my office all mails are forwarded to another mail address so I think I didn't switch off the automatic funtion which generates the germnan "Abwesenheitsnotiz" that I'm not in there... Hopefully I've managed it now to stop this, but I'm not quite sure... When I send a mail to my own address I do not get anything but who of us knows the behaviour of Microsoft products when they are alone... Sincerly Klaus ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Chris_Tham at lendlease.com.au Tue Aug 10 08:11:25 1999 From: Chris_Tham at lendlease.com.au (Chris_Tham at lendlease.com.au) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 16:11:25 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Nak 680 manual Message-ID: <4A2567C9.0022A643.00@sydns026.lendlease.com.au> Hi all, I bought a Nak 680 second hand last year and I was wondering if anyone has a manual for this that they don't mind photocopying for me. I'm quite impressed by it - although currently it's under repair at the moment and the shop is waiting for spare parts - they said it isn't too easy to get spare parts for Naks these days :-( By the way, I still haven't told my Dad I've got a Nak (he is a hi fi nut from waay back - I grew up thinking it's perfectly normal for a family to trade up to newer/better audio gear every six months and having a living room that resembles a showroom!) but so far various (male) friends have been impressed when visiting my apartment! Chris ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From HWBossHoss at aol.com Tue Aug 10 11:51:56 1999 From: HWBossHoss at aol.com (HWBossHoss at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 05:51:56 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Re: CR7A and RX-505 comparison Message-ID: <7ca21b4e.24e1503c@aol.com> In a message dated 8/9/99 8:27:04 PM, ayhamidou at ibm.net writes: << Rent the Movie 9 and a half weeks. Mickey Rouke uses (an RX-505) in the movie. You see it flip the tape. >> FRIENDLY WARNING: If you rent "9 and 1/2 Weeks", you will see MUCH MORE than just an RX-505! :) *andy* (HWBossHoss at aol.com) ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Tue Aug 10 12:59:47 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:59:47 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] FS: RX-303 Message-ID: <00d801bee31f$77ca71c0$0f02000a@boom> Hi Patrick, Please, let me know where do you located. I have a friend in States who may be able to get your Nak for me (in fact he already brought 700 and LX-3 for me). Please, give me an idea about cost for this one. What is the last letter on it? I mean, will it work on 110 volts or 220 volts? Looking forward to hear from you, Michael Kiev, Ukraine >I have a near mint RX-303 I'm ready to part with. Have orginal box, >manual, and dealer product brochures (I am willing to send color copies >to someone who will post these on the Nak site--or wants them for other >purposes). The original owner was an audiophile, but rarely used this >deck, neither have I. Please contact me if your interested >(gcpj at mediaone.net). > >Patrick Juetten > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Tue Aug 10 15:11:11 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 06:11:11 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] FS: Dragon Message-ID: How about raffling it to all NakTalkers? $30 a pop, and you do a drawing, one winner........... Seriously speaking, your best bet is to place that Dragon on the e-bay auction block, where you'll probably get a high bid of $800 - $1,200. Good luck!!! Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper On Mon, 9 Aug 1999 21:25:51 Kevin Rogers wrote: >Hello all. I have 2 Dragons, so one has to go! It is in excellent condition, with new pinch rollers and mechanism belt and a recent alignment by Sonic Sense. I have the original manual, but not box, however I am very good at packing. Offers? > >Kevin Rogers > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Tue Aug 10 19:37:45 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:37:45 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] FS: RX-303 References: <003401bee2cf$49ef9be0$8a1726d8@krogers> <37AFAE03.3AA29F33@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <37B06369.8793BBAB@iconn.net> Patrick, Tell me about the deck. I am not familiar with it. Jim Brochin gcpj at mediaone.net wrote: > Hey All, > > I have a near mint RX-303 I'm ready to part with. Have orginal box, > manual, and dealer product brochures (I am willing to send color copies > to someone who will post these on the Nak site--or wants them for other > purposes). The original owner was an audiophile, but rarely used this > deck, neither have I. Please contact me if your interested > (gcpj at mediaone.net). > > Patrick Juetten > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From LDEVOE at mail.mcg.edu Tue Aug 10 19:59:27 1999 From: LDEVOE at mail.mcg.edu (Lawrence Devoe) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:59:27 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] FS: Dragon Message-ID: How much do want for the deck? How old is it and how are the heads? I'm interested. >>> "Kevin Rogers" 08/09/99 09:25PM >>> Hello all. I have 2 Dragons, so one has to go! It is in excellent condition, with new pinch rollers and mechanism belt and a recent alignment by Sonic Sense. I have the original manual, but not box, however I am very good at packing. Offers? Kevin Rogers ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From krogers at u-r-online.com Wed Aug 11 01:25:39 1999 From: krogers at u-r-online.com (Kevin Rogers) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:25:39 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] FS: Dragon References: Message-ID: <005801bee387$a93d2780$711726d8@krogers> ----- Original Message ----- From: Lawrence Devoe To: Sent: August 10, 1999 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] FS: Dragon > How much do want for the deck? How old is it and how are the heads? I'm interested. Hi. I want to get $800.00 for the deck. I'm not sure how old it is, the serial no. is 07470 and the heads are fine, it works and looks great, I just don't need 2 and I have too many other decks. Kevin > > >>> "Kevin Rogers" 08/09/99 09:25PM >>> > Hello all. I have 2 Dragons, so one has to go! It is in excellent condition, with new pinch rollers and mechanism belt and a recent alignment by Sonic Sense. I have the original manual, but not box, however I am very good at packing. Offers? > > Kevin Rogers > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From countach at ptd.net Wed Aug 11 02:26:40 1999 From: countach at ptd.net (Jonathan Strack) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:26:40 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] FS: RX-303 Message-ID: <01BEE36E.E6C30200.countach@ptd.net> Hello, The RX-303 is a two head deck with auto-reverse. It actually flips the tape around. I think it has manual bias adjustment. A decent deck, but a three-head would be better. -----Original Message----- From: James P. Brochin [SMTP:hofbroch at iconn.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 1:38 PM To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] FS: RX-303 Patrick, Tell me about the deck. I am not familiar with it. Jim Brochin gcpj at mediaone.net wrote: > Hey All, > > I have a near mint RX-303 I'm ready to part with. Have orginal box, > manual, and dealer product brochures (I am willing to send color copies > to someone who will post these on the Nak site--or wants them for other > purposes). The original owner was an audiophile, but rarely used this > deck, neither have I. Please contact me if your interested > (gcpj at mediaone.net). > > Patrick Juetten > > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Neil Holcomb Herndon, VA -----Original Message----- From: Jonathan Strack To: 'naktalk at naks.com' Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 7:43 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] FS: RX-303 >Hello, > The RX-303 is a two head deck with auto-reverse. It actually flips the >tape around. I think it has manual bias adjustment. A decent deck, but a >three-head would be better. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: James P. Brochin [SMTP:hofbroch at iconn.net] >Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 1:38 PM >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] FS: RX-303 > >Patrick, > >Tell me about the deck. I am not familiar with it. > >Jim Brochin > >gcpj at mediaone.net wrote: > >> Hey All, >> >> I have a near mint RX-303 I'm ready to part with. Have orginal box, >> manual, and dealer product brochures (I am willing to send color copies >> to someone who will post these on the Nak site--or wants them for other >> purposes). The original owner was an audiophile, but rarely used this >> deck, neither have I. Please contact me if your interested >> (gcpj at mediaone.net). >> >> Patrick Juetten >> >> >========---------------------------------------------------------------- >--========= >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> >========---------------------------------------------------------------- >--========= > >========---------------------------------------------------------------- >--========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========---------------------------------------------------------------- >--========= > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From aekresse at erols.com Wed Aug 11 03:38:45 1999 From: aekresse at erols.com (Alan Kresse) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 21:38:45 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] FS: RX-303 References: <000a01bee39c$6e40dae0$d040accf@xonwjike> Message-ID: <37B0D425.D02A7818@erols.com> http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/index1.html See it here. Neil Holcomb wrote: > > I have an RX202 deck and have heard of the RX505 (3 head) but never the > RX303. Are you sure about the model number? What year was it manuf.? > > Neil Holcomb > Herndon, VA > -----Original Message----- > From: Jonathan Strack > To: 'naktalk at naks.com' > Date: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 7:43 PM > Subject: RE: [naktalk] FS: RX-303 > > >Hello, > > The RX-303 is a two head deck with auto-reverse. It actually flips the > >tape around. I think it has manual bias adjustment. A decent deck, but a > >three-head would be better. > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: James P. Brochin [SMTP:hofbroch at iconn.net] > >Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 1:38 PM > >To: naktalk at naks.com > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] FS: RX-303 > > > >Patrick, > > > >Tell me about the deck. I am not familiar with it. > > > >Jim Brochin > > > >gcpj at mediaone.net wrote: > > > >> Hey All, > >> > >> I have a near mint RX-303 I'm ready to part with. Have orginal box, > >> manual, and dealer product brochures (I am willing to send color copies > >> to someone who will post these on the Nak site--or wants them for other > >> purposes). The original owner was an audiophile, but rarely used this > >> deck, neither have I. Please contact me if your interested > >> (gcpj at mediaone.net). > >> > >> Patrick Juetten > >> > >> > >========---------------------------------------------------------------- > >--========= > >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >> > >========---------------------------------------------------------------- > >--========= > > > >========---------------------------------------------------------------- > >--========= > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========---------------------------------------------------------------- > >--========= > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Brochin" Subject: Re: CR7A and RX-505 comparison Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:29:28 -0400 Size: 6692 URL: From Ariston_Malolos at condenast.com Wed Aug 11 16:30:42 1999 From: Ariston_Malolos at condenast.com (Ariston_Malolos at condenast.com) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:30:42 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] Message-ID: <852567CA.004FAD3E.00@Beethoven.condenast.com> Jim, I have a BX300 so I can't speak for the other models that you have. I still have the stock belt-driver transport. Fast Forward and Rewind are barely--if at all--working. I definitely need the gear upgrade. Last time I checked--about a year ago--the upgrade costs $200 + shipping. I believe you need the same upgrade done to your BX300. Hope it helps. Ariston Jim wrote: (Embedded image moved hofbroch at iconn.net to file: 08/11/99 09:41 AM pic13448.pcx) Please respond to naktalk at naks.com To: naktalk at naks.com cc: Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] Hi: This is my first time writing anything to this site. I am an old-time Nak fan, and I own a 500, 550, BX300 and BX1. My 550 speed control is shot, and other than the auto off feature not working, it was working well. Anyone have any suggestions about how I get it fixed economically? (ES labs here in CT, who does great work, told me it's not worth fixing) Anyone out there have a reasonably priced 500 for sale that works well? I like it for the fact that it allows simultaneous line and mic inputs. My 550, a great machine I bought new in 1978, has a pokey ff and rew, both lamps are out, and I am pretty sure there are alignment problems and/or bias/eq adjustments that have to be made. Any suggestions, as to what may be wrong, or where to fix/overhaul it to spec for less than the $500 estimate that I got? As for my BX300, it makes great tapes but the rewind is very weak and it makes a fair bit of motor noise in both stop mode and when running. It's annoying and probably indicates a problem that I heard was common with the BX series. Anyone have suggestions about a fix? Thanks for responding. I have this get out since I am a computer know-nothing. Jim Brochin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pic13448.pcx Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2427 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wheijke at xs4all.nl Wed Aug 11 18:23:28 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:23:28 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] digest version Message-ID: <37B1A380.833C6DC2@xs4all.nl> Hi. I've added a digest version for naktalk. If you want less naktalk mail this is the list for you! Note that if you want to get on the digest version you should remove yourself from the regular version! Look here for more info: http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html If there are any questions just mail me! Wouter ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ptngnmo at hotmail.com Wed Aug 11 18:50:49 1999 From: ptngnmo at hotmail.com (ptngnmo ptngnmo) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:50:49 GMT Subject: [naktalk] FS: Dragon Message-ID: <19990811165049.51139.qmail@hotmail.com> what other decks do you have for sale? >From: "Kevin Rogers" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: >Subject: Re: [naktalk] FS: Dragon >Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:25:39 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From owner-naktalk at zebra.naks.com Tue Aug 10 16:57:49 1999 >Received: from [194.109.91.137] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id >MHotMailB97A077C0150D82197F0C26D5B8913720; Tue Aug 10 16:57:49 1999 >Received: (from majordomo at localhost)by zebra.naks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id >BAA23169for naktalk-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:29:57 +0200 >Received: from ns.u-r-online.com (root at ns.u-r-online.com [216.38.23.2])by >zebra.naks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23166for ; >Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:29:51 +0200 >Received: from krogers (ppp113.u-r-online.com [216.38.23.113])by >ns.u-r-online.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA28170for >; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:27:04 -0400 (EDT) >Message-ID: <005801bee387$a93d2780$711726d8 at krogers> >References: >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 >Sender: owner-naktalk at naks.com >Precedence: bulk > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Lawrence Devoe >To: >Sent: August 10, 1999 1:59 PM >Subject: Re: [naktalk] FS: Dragon > > > > How much do want for the deck? How old is it and how are the heads? I'm >interested. > >Hi. I want to get $800.00 for the deck. I'm not sure how old it is, the >serial no. is 07470 and the heads are fine, it works and looks great, I >just >don't need 2 and I have too many other decks. > >Kevin > > > > > > >>> "Kevin Rogers" 08/09/99 09:25PM >>> > > Hello all. I have 2 Dragons, so one has to go! It is in excellent >condition, with new pinch rollers and mechanism belt and a recent alignment >by Sonic Sense. I have the original manual, but not box, however I am very >good at packing. Offers? > > > > Kevin Rogers > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From danapple at vicor.com Wed Aug 11 19:23:31 1999 From: danapple at vicor.com (Daniel I. Applebaum) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:23:31 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Remote control for CR-2A Message-ID: <199908111723.KAA05634@rua.vicor.com> I'm interested in controlling my CR-2A via infrared remote control. Right now, I have a wired control (RM-??). Is there any unit available to provide wireless control for a CR series unit? Dan. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From dgb at psulias.psu.edu Wed Aug 11 19:43:11 1999 From: dgb at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:43:11 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Remote control for CR-2A In-Reply-To: <199908111723.KAA05634@rua.vicor.com> Message-ID: <4.1.19990811134234.00a20100@psulias.psu.edu> Any of the TA-# recievers remotes will control your CR-2. At 10:23 AM 8/11/99 -0700, you wrote: > >I'm interested in controlling my CR-2A via infrared remote control. >Right now, I have a wired control (RM-??). Is there any unit >available to provide wireless control for a CR series unit? > >Dan. >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= Derrick Beckner Penn State Historical Collections and Labor Archives W313 Pattee Library ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From countach at ptd.net Tue Aug 10 02:38:05 1999 From: countach at ptd.net (Jonathan Strack) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 20:38:05 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] RE: CR7A and RX-505 comparison Message-ID: <01BEE2A7.1A6B2D80.countach@ptd.net> Hello, I am replying about how the RX-505 turns the tape over. I will include a picture of the deck, this should help somewhat. It has a big window in the front, and it actually lifts the tape forward into this area, then the mechanism literally TURNS the tape around! It's pretty cool. I had the opportunity to see one in action a few years ago, and was impressed. This was you can have true 3-head quality, along with auto-reverse. However, the Dragon can accpomlish the same thing without flipping the tape over; it automatically adjusts the azimuth of the playback head to sound it's best. But it only records in one direction. If you are not in the budget for a Dragon but still want auto reverse, the RX-505 is the way to go. However, if you are willing to give up auto reverse in exchange for a more complete bias level adjustment, the ZX-7 and ZX-9 are excellent decks. Good luck, Jon -----Original Message----- From: Thomas Siomopoulos [SMTP:Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au] Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 4:25 AM To: Naktalk mailinglist Subject: RE: CR7A and RX-505 comparison Hi Blues, I'm interested in how the RX-505 turns the tape over. What does it look like? Regards Thomas Siomopoulos -----Original Message----- From: naktalk at mail.geocities.com [mailto:naktalk at mail.geocities.com]On Behalf Of The BlueSwapper Sent: Monday, 9 August 1999 1:14 To: Naktalk mailinglist Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com; goslice Subject: Re: CR7A and RX-505 comparison GoSlice!!! Reading your advert, I noticed that you have a very high regard for the CR7A Nakamichi cassette deck. Indeed, if the current bidders are not meeting your anticipated selling price, you might consider re-writing the e-bay advert, raising the reserve price, and emphasizing the high quality and care of your valuable item. Myself, I'm not in the market for another deck - I've got a Nak RX-505, and three Marantz 5420s, all that perform flawlessly. And a Model 500 for fast-forward/rewind duties (Remember me???). Quite enough for my needs! The RX-505 is my favorite. A high-quality gem, in my opinion, the true little brother to the Dragon. Many of the Dragon's features are incorporated into the RX-505, like recording and erase heads, NAAC (Nak Auto Azimuth Control), dual-feed master fade, auto-reverse capability (although different mechanisms), and several other features. And RX-505 has the very impressive UDAR (Uni-Directional Auto-Reverse)transport mechanism that gets the continuous cassette play task accomplished very effectively, fun to watch too! I'm no specifications tech-weenie, but I feel that the RX-505 ranks high on the Nakamichi cassette deck hall of fame ladder, possibly above the CR7A in performance. I often refer to my RX-505 as the Mini-Dragon! But that's my personal opinion!!! Well, I hope I don't have many fire breathers hurling flames down my back for that statement, my being on probation with some of the long-standing NakTalkers. Anyone care to add to the commentary? Good luck on the sale of your CR7A! Blues ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Sat, 7 Aug 1999 21:31:07 goslice wrote: >Hey, > Hi, Just a note to let you know that Ebay.com has been having some problems with their site. They say it will be fixed this morning (8/7/99). As you may know, I have listed my Nakamichi CR-7A with Ebay.com (item #138322192). Ebay has extended my auction by 24 hours. The auction will now end 08/08/99 at 02:13:28 AM PDT. (provided they get the site working properly with no more problems.) My deck is in excellent working condition and I recently found out that it does have the "gear update". The CR-7A is second only to the World Famous Dragon. If you are looking for one of the best cassette decks ever made, please visit my auction on Ebay.com for more information and to bid on it. This deck sells second hand for nearly $1000 (new it cost over $1800). Currently, the highest bid on it is only $610! Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --== ======= Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck page. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de Tue Aug 10 08:29:01 1999 From: Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de (Fendt Klaus) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 08:29:01 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] AW: recording Message-ID: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F161@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> More things how to calibrate a Dragon. Insert the tape and select the correct type like Carlos mentioned beyond. Then go to record pause state (hold the record button and press the pause button) and make sure that the "monitor" button is set to "tape" (released position) Now you can press the 400Hz button and you will see that the tape counter is set to the zero position and tape motion starts. Two additional LED's will show you what's happening: Look at the rotary switches left of the tape type selector button and adjust both channels in that way the meter shows zero. After that proceed like Carlos said with the 15kHz (and remember: Wait until the red arrow has stopped blinking. This indicates that the azimuth correction has finished). If you are using a very different tape (for example form a real chrome to a chrome substitute) than the one before and you have to adjust in a way your Dragon can't do so adjust Bias and Level to a medium position and try again. You can leave your tape recording while you do so. Normally it should be enough to calibrate only one time but when you like to make a very important recording you can check twice because the Level calibration changes when you adjust the Bias and vice versa. Again you can leave your tape running. When you press "reset" the calibration is stopped and the tape should we rewinded to zero (you don't need to set any "memory" switches near the counter - the Dragon does this automatically) As a last hint: When you think that the high frequencies are not as brillant as you like then try to adjust the 15kHz with two more LED's over the zero point (I don't have in mind how the meter is marked at this point). I think my "european" Dragon sounds much clearer with this setting. Enjoy your Dragon Klaus > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Carlos [SMTP:copytec at coqui.net] > Gesendet am: Montag, 9. August 1999 15:24 > An: Naktalk mailinglist > Betreff: Re: recording > > It's easy. Put the cassette on record mode and start running it. Go to the > tape selector switches and press SX if you're using chrome tape, EX if > it's > normal or ZX if it's metal. Then, press > "level 400 hz" button and using the level calibration rotary switches take > both level to "0" on your led meter, then switch to > the "Bias 15Khz" button and do the same. Then press reset. This last > adjustment is for bias,so, if the red arrows of the auto azymuth are > flickering, you must wait until they're steady and only then you can > adjust > the bias. > > Under each button of level 400 and bias 15 Khz, are a set of rotary > switches > to calibrate each tape that is selected. That means that if your tape is > chrome and you pressed the SX button you need to use those companion > rotary > switches to adjust bias and level. > > Remember to leave the dolby button in off position while calibrating. It > is > wise to repeat the procedure everytime you change from tapes. > > Good luck ! Any doubts? Feel free to ask. > > Carlos > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: Naktalk mailinglist > Sent: Monday, August 02, 1999 3:45 PM > Subject: recording > > > > I have a dragon and would like to know how to set the record calibration > and > > the bias? I will be using the TDK tapes, so is any of this necessary? > If > > not do these functions defeat and how do you take them out of the > circuit? > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > == > ======= > > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck page. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > == > ======= > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck page. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Scalnajim at aol.com Tue Aug 10 05:24:59 1999 From: Scalnajim at aol.com (Scalnajim at aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 23:24:59 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Re: RE: Owner's manual of CA-7A Message-ID: I would be interested in your deck. scott al-najim 612-287-9435 Minnesota time ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MHPellerin at aol.com Tue Aug 10 17:48:32 1999 From: MHPellerin at aol.com (MHPellerin at aol.com) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 11:48:32 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Re: 1000ZXL Ltd. Message-ID: <460ab27b.24e1a3d0@aol.com> Please take em off the mailing list Thanks for all the emails and interesting info. Mark ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Tue Aug 10 19:29:28 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:29:28 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: CR7A and RX-505 comparison References: <199908090824.SAA04853@necagmx.neca.nec.com.au> <000c01bee254$beddf4e0$4d269782@hkg.ra.rockwell.com> Message-ID: <37B06177.7312EB14@iconn.net> Hi: This is my first time writing anything to this site. I am an old-time Nak fan, and I own a 500, 550, BX300 and BX1. My 550 speed control is shot, and other than the auto off feature not working, it was working well. Anyone have any suggestions about how I get it fixed economically? (ES labs here in CT, who does great work, told me it's not worth fixing) Anyone out there have a reasonably priced 500 for sale that works well? I like it for the fact that it allows simultaneous line and mic inputs. My 550, a great machine I bought new in 1978, has a pokey ff and rew, both lamps are out, and I am pretty sure there are alignment problems and/or bias/eq adjustments that have to be made. Any suggestions, as to what may be wrong, or where to fix/overhaul it to spec for less than the $500 estimate that I got? As for my BX300, it makes great tapes but the rewind is very weak and it makes a fair bit of motor noise in both stop mode and when running. It's annoying and probably indicates a problem that I heard was common with the BX series. Anyone have suggestions about a fix? Thanks for responding. I have this get out since I am a computer know-nothing. Jim Brochin Adam Yousuf wrote: > Rent the Movie 9 and a half weeks. Mickey Rouke uses one in the movie. You > see it flip the tape. > > Regards, > Adam > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Thomas Siomopoulos > To: Naktalk mailinglist > Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 4:24 PM > Subject: RE: CR7A and RX-505 comparison > > > Hi Blues, > > > > I'm interested in how the RX-505 turns the tape over. What does it look > > like? > > > > Regards Thomas Siomopoulos > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk at mail.geocities.com [mailto:naktalk at mail.geocities.com]On > > Behalf Of The BlueSwapper > > Sent: Monday, 9 August 1999 1:14 > > To: Naktalk mailinglist > > Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com; goslice > > Subject: Re: CR7A and RX-505 comparison > > > > > > GoSlice!!! > > > > Reading your advert, I noticed that you have a very high regard for the > CR7A > > Nakamichi cassette deck. Indeed, if the current bidders are not meeting > > your anticipated selling price, you might consider re-writing the e-bay > > advert, raising the reserve price, and emphasizing the high quality and > care > > of your valuable item. > > > > Myself, I'm not in the market for another deck - I've got a Nak RX-505, > and > > three Marantz 5420s, all that perform flawlessly. And a Model 500 for > > fast-forward/rewind duties (Remember me???). Quite enough for my needs! > > > > The RX-505 is my favorite. A high-quality gem, in my opinion, the true > > little brother to the Dragon. Many of the Dragon's features are > > incorporated into the RX-505, like recording and erase heads, NAAC (Nak > Auto > > Azimuth Control), dual-feed master fade, auto-reverse capability (although > > different mechanisms), and several other features. And RX-505 has the > very > > impressive UDAR (Uni-Directional Auto-Reverse)transport mechanism that > gets > > the continuous cassette play task accomplished very effectively, fun to > > watch too! I'm no specifications tech-weenie, but I feel that the RX-505 > > ranks high on the Nakamichi cassette deck hall of fame ladder, possibly > > above the CR7A in performance. I often refer to my RX-505 as the > > Mini-Dragon! But that's my personal opinion!!! > > > > Well, I hope I don't have many fire breathers hurling flames down my back > > for that statement, my being on probation with some of the long-standing > > NakTalkers. Anyone care to add to the commentary? > > > > Good luck on the sale of your CR7A! > > > > Blues > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > On Sat, 7 Aug 1999 21:31:07 goslice wrote: > > > > >Hey, > > > > > Hi, > > > > Just a note to let you know that Ebay.com has been having some problems > with > > their site. They say it will be fixed this morning (8/7/99). > > > > As you may know, I have listed my Nakamichi CR-7A with Ebay.com (item > > #138322192). Ebay has extended my auction by 24 hours. The auction will > > now end 08/08/99 at 02:13:28 AM PDT. (provided they get the site working > > properly with no more problems.) > > > > My deck is in excellent working condition and I recently found out that it > > does have the "gear update". The CR-7A is second only to the World Famous > > Dragon. If you are looking for one of the best cassette decks > > ever made, please visit my auction on Ebay.com for more information and to > > bid on it. This deck sells second > > hand for nearly $1000 (new it cost over $1800). Currently, the highest > bid > > on it is only $610! > > > > > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > > Deck page. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck page. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck page. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Tue Aug 10 19:29:28 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:29:28 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: CR7A and RX-505 comparison References: <199908090824.SAA04853@necagmx.neca.nec.com.au> <000c01bee254$beddf4e0$4d269782@hkg.ra.rockwell.com> Message-ID: <37B06177.7312EB14@iconn.net> Hi: This is my first time writing anything to this site. I am an old-time Nak fan, and I own a 500, 550, BX300 and BX1. My 550 speed control is shot, and other than the auto off feature not working, it was working well. Anyone have any suggestions about how I get it fixed economically? (ES labs here in CT, who does great work, told me it's not worth fixing) Anyone out there have a reasonably priced 500 for sale that works well? I like it for the fact that it allows simultaneous line and mic inputs. My 550, a great machine I bought new in 1978, has a pokey ff and rew, both lamps are out, and I am pretty sure there are alignment problems and/or bias/eq adjustments that have to be made. Any suggestions, as to what may be wrong, or where to fix/overhaul it to spec for less than the $500 estimate that I got? As for my BX300, it makes great tapes but the rewind is very weak and it makes a fair bit of motor noise in both stop mode and when running. It's annoying and probably indicates a problem that I heard was common with the BX series. Anyone have suggestions about a fix? Thanks for responding. I have this get out since I am a computer know-nothing. Jim Brochin Adam Yousuf wrote: > Rent the Movie 9 and a half weeks. Mickey Rouke uses one in the movie. You > see it flip the tape. > > Regards, > Adam > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Thomas Siomopoulos > To: Naktalk mailinglist > Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 4:24 PM > Subject: RE: CR7A and RX-505 comparison > > > Hi Blues, > > > > I'm interested in how the RX-505 turns the tape over. What does it look > > like? > > > > Regards Thomas Siomopoulos > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: naktalk at mail.geocities.com [mailto:naktalk at mail.geocities.com]On > > Behalf Of The BlueSwapper > > Sent: Monday, 9 August 1999 1:14 > > To: Naktalk mailinglist > > Cc: blueswapper at angelfire.com; goslice > > Subject: Re: CR7A and RX-505 comparison > > > > > > GoSlice!!! > > > > Reading your advert, I noticed that you have a very high regard for the > CR7A > > Nakamichi cassette deck. Indeed, if the current bidders are not meeting > > your anticipated selling price, you might consider re-writing the e-bay > > advert, raising the reserve price, and emphasizing the high quality and > care > > of your valuable item. > > > > Myself, I'm not in the market for another deck - I've got a Nak RX-505, > and > > three Marantz 5420s, all that perform flawlessly. And a Model 500 for > > fast-forward/rewind duties (Remember me???). Quite enough for my needs! > > > > The RX-505 is my favorite. A high-quality gem, in my opinion, the true > > little brother to the Dragon. Many of the Dragon's features are > > incorporated into the RX-505, like recording and erase heads, NAAC (Nak > Auto > > Azimuth Control), dual-feed master fade, auto-reverse capability (although > > different mechanisms), and several other features. And RX-505 has the > very > > impressive UDAR (Uni-Directional Auto-Reverse)transport mechanism that > gets > > the continuous cassette play task accomplished very effectively, fun to > > watch too! I'm no specifications tech-weenie, but I feel that the RX-505 > > ranks high on the Nakamichi cassette deck hall of fame ladder, possibly > > above the CR7A in performance. I often refer to my RX-505 as the > > Mini-Dragon! But that's my personal opinion!!! > > > > Well, I hope I don't have many fire breathers hurling flames down my back > > for that statement, my being on probation with some of the long-standing > > NakTalkers. Anyone care to add to the commentary? > > > > Good luck on the sale of your CR7A! > > > > Blues > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > On Sat, 7 Aug 1999 21:31:07 goslice wrote: > > > > >Hey, > > > > > Hi, > > > > Just a note to let you know that Ebay.com has been having some problems > with > > their site. They say it will be fixed this morning (8/7/99). > > > > As you may know, I have listed my Nakamichi CR-7A with Ebay.com (item > > #138322192). Ebay has extended my auction by 24 hours. The auction will > > now end 08/08/99 at 02:13:28 AM PDT. (provided they get the site working > > properly with no more problems.) > > > > My deck is in excellent working condition and I recently found out that it > > does have the "gear update". The CR-7A is second only to the World Famous > > Dragon. If you are looking for one of the best cassette decks > > ever made, please visit my auction on Ebay.com for more information and to > > bid on it. This deck sells second > > hand for nearly $1000 (new it cost over $1800). Currently, the highest > bid > > on it is only $610! > > > > > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > > Deck page. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck page. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck page. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Tue Aug 10 19:35:29 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:35:29 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: manuals in .pdf format References: <3.0.32.19990809133602.007d3100@anderson.edu> Message-ID: <37B062E1.8821778C@iconn.net> Mark, and others: I'm a 550 fan, and have made in the field recordings for multi-projector documentaries with it for 21 years. It's still working , but need an overhaul to fix rew and ff strength, lamps, and perhaps other stuff to get it to spec. Any suggestions about where to get it done reasonably and well? Love to hear any 550 stories or advice you have. Jim Brochin Kent Merideth wrote: > August 9, 1999 > > Mark, > > I just received your inquiry concerning the TDK vs Nakamichi audio cassette > tape. When recording tape is made, it begins as a very wide strip of > backing (acetate, mylar, etc.) upon which the recording media (ferric > oxide, chromium dioxide, etc.) is deposited on. Later on in this process, > the tape is slit into the desired width (2", 1", 1/2", 1/4", 1/8", etc.) > and then spooled onto hubs for transfer to packaging. This may be open > reels or cassette shells. Nakamichi set up a contract with TDK to get the > tape from the center area of the original strip and set up tighter > tolerances for dropouts, signal retention and frequency response. The > higher price charged for the Nakamichi tape was not just due to the fact it > had their name on it, it was also due to charges for additional testing > before it left TDK. If you can find TDK MAX-G or -R (I don't remember what > the designation is), it has a metal surround which the two cassette shell > faces are attached with screws. Maxell also had a similar package which I > believe was called Vertex. I never had any of either reference tape, but > Audio Magazine ran some tests of them about 12-15 years ago and indicated > they did have superior specs, but the average recordist would not benefit > from it. First, it required a very good deck to get the signal recorded > optimally; then there had to be a high quality signal source to record. > CDs had just come on the scene then, so it required a good turntable, arm, > cartridge, pre amp setup or high quality microphones and mixer to interface > to the tape deck. Back then, I just stuck with TDK SA and SA-X, as my 550 > was not metal compatible. The mic pre amps on the 550 were better than the > ones in my Revox A77-HS, so I used the 550 between the A77 and the mics. > It was a lot of fun trying to get a good recording that had the same sound > stage width and, on rare occasion, depth. The placement of the mics could > drive me crazy before it would sound good to great. Then I got married and > moved away from my longtime music source, Anderson University Music > Department. It was so rewarding to get a good recording that was (a)live, > spontaneous, musically interesting, and not some "canned", > "fix-it-in-the-mix" studio production that was compressed and echoed to > death. Good luck in finding the reference TDK cassettes. > > Good taping! > > Kent Merideth > > At 09:05 PM 7/28/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I know I've read that someone associated w/this site has downloadable > >service manuals, but I never kept the info because I never owned a Nak > >until just recently when a mint RX-505 dropped into my hands, sans > >manual. Any help out there? By the way, a while ago there was a debate > >about the best cassettes to use w/ one's Nak. Many said the MAX-G's or > >a similiar tape. Some even said that Nak used TDK's as their reference, > >however, a RX-505 manual that I saw in the past distinctly said that Nak > >used their own Nak SX cassettes as the reference. Were these rebadged > >TDK's? Any comments? > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck page. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck page. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Scalnajim at aol.com Tue Aug 10 05:05:20 1999 From: Scalnajim at aol.com (Scalnajim at aol.com) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 23:05:20 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Re: 1000ZXL Ltd. Message-ID: <4d8d68f6.24e0f0f0@aol.com> I'm not sure how many 1000 ZXL Limited editions were made but the ser. number on my unit is 80052. My guise is that my deck was number 52. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Tue Aug 10 19:35:29 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:35:29 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: manuals in .pdf format References: <3.0.32.19990809133602.007d3100@anderson.edu> Message-ID: <37B062E1.8821778C@iconn.net> Mark, and others: I'm a 550 fan, and have made in the field recordings for multi-projector documentaries with it for 21 years. It's still working , but need an overhaul to fix rew and ff strength, lamps, and perhaps other stuff to get it to spec. Any suggestions about where to get it done reasonably and well? Love to hear any 550 stories or advice you have. Jim Brochin Kent Merideth wrote: > August 9, 1999 > > Mark, > > I just received your inquiry concerning the TDK vs Nakamichi audio cassette > tape. When recording tape is made, it begins as a very wide strip of > backing (acetate, mylar, etc.) upon which the recording media (ferric > oxide, chromium dioxide, etc.) is deposited on. Later on in this process, > the tape is slit into the desired width (2", 1", 1/2", 1/4", 1/8", etc.) > and then spooled onto hubs for transfer to packaging. This may be open > reels or cassette shells. Nakamichi set up a contract with TDK to get the > tape from the center area of the original strip and set up tighter > tolerances for dropouts, signal retention and frequency response. The > higher price charged for the Nakamichi tape was not just due to the fact it > had their name on it, it was also due to charges for additional testing > before it left TDK. If you can find TDK MAX-G or -R (I don't remember what > the designation is), it has a metal surround which the two cassette shell > faces are attached with screws. Maxell also had a similar package which I > believe was called Vertex. I never had any of either reference tape, but > Audio Magazine ran some tests of them about 12-15 years ago and indicated > they did have superior specs, but the average recordist would not benefit > from it. First, it required a very good deck to get the signal recorded > optimally; then there had to be a high quality signal source to record. > CDs had just come on the scene then, so it required a good turntable, arm, > cartridge, pre amp setup or high quality microphones and mixer to interface > to the tape deck. Back then, I just stuck with TDK SA and SA-X, as my 550 > was not metal compatible. The mic pre amps on the 550 were better than the > ones in my Revox A77-HS, so I used the 550 between the A77 and the mics. > It was a lot of fun trying to get a good recording that had the same sound > stage width and, on rare occasion, depth. The placement of the mics could > drive me crazy before it would sound good to great. Then I got married and > moved away from my longtime music source, Anderson University Music > Department. It was so rewarding to get a good recording that was (a)live, > spontaneous, musically interesting, and not some "canned", > "fix-it-in-the-mix" studio production that was compressed and echoed to > death. Good luck in finding the reference TDK cassettes. > > Good taping! > > Kent Merideth > > At 09:05 PM 7/28/99 -0500, you wrote: > >I know I've read that someone associated w/this site has downloadable > >service manuals, but I never kept the info because I never owned a Nak > >until just recently when a mint RX-505 dropped into my hands, sans > >manual. Any help out there? By the way, a while ago there was a debate > >about the best cassettes to use w/ one's Nak. Many said the MAX-G's or > >a similiar tape. Some even said that Nak used TDK's as their reference, > >however, a RX-505 manual that I saw in the past distinctly said that Nak > >used their own Nak SX cassettes as the reference. Were these rebadged > >TDK's? Any comments? > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette > Deck page. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck page. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Aug 10 00:04:14 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:04:14 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: manuals in .pdf format References: <3.0.32.19990809133602.007d3100@anderson.edu> Message-ID: <001d01bee2b3$1e8971e0$13302ac4@coqui.net> Hello Guys: TDK MA-XG is now in its Reference Standard Mechanism series III. It's still available: call National Recording Supplies at 1-800-538-2336 and talk to Domenick Salvatore. Tell him Carlos send you. These material is not in stock. It is special order. Good Luck ! Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Kent Merideth To: Naktalk mailinglist Cc: Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 2:36 PM Subject: Re: manuals in .pdf format Good luck in finding the reference TDK cassettes. > > Good taping! > > Kent Merideth > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From gking at mail.tqci.net Tue Aug 10 00:32:06 1999 From: gking at mail.tqci.net (Gerald King) Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1999 18:32:06 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] CR-70 & noise reduction Message-ID: Hello People, I have a Nak CR-70 and a Nak High Com 11 Noise reduction system that I purchaced from a friend while stationed in Japan. I had the intention of having the cassette deck repaired. The problem with it is that when the door is closed it won't play. I was going to have it repaired but I since I already have a ZX-7 and I am getting ready to retire from the Navy I no longer have the time or the interest. I gave one hundred dollars for it. If anyone is interested I will sell both for that plus postage. It may be a gamble but it may also be an incredible bargain. I honestly do not know. It is a Japanese version so it is 100v. I am being totally honest and upfront here. Sincerly, Gerald King ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Tue Aug 10 05:22:58 1999 From: Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:22:58 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] RE: recording In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199908100322.NAA15595@necagmx.neca.nec.com.au> Hello to you all, I believe that the calibration part of the Dragon is simillar to the ZX7/9. If you want to calibrate your deck to the TDK range of audio tapes then you will need to obtain all tape types from TDK (type I, type II and type IV). Get the type I tape and insert it into the unit. Set the bias and eq to Type I & 120us. At this point I believe you press the 400Hz calibration tone button and the unit will start to record. The dB meters will indicate what the machine is calibrated to, it should be at 0dB. If it is not at 0dB then adjust the knobs that are referencing to the 400Hz signal and the Type I tape (EX). Press the 15KHz signal button and make sure the dB meters are set at 0dB, again if they are not at 0dB then adjust the 15KHz knobs that are associated for Type I (EX). Repeat this process for Type II (SX) and type IV (ZX) tapes. And there you have it, you have now calibrated the unit. Please note that the above info I gave you may differ slightly to your Dragon. I am using a ZX9 and the procedure may be different from the Dragon. I hope I have not confused you too much. The tape settings for the Type II (SX) & Type IV (ZX) are as follows, Type II = bias SX & eq 70us, Type IV = bias ZX & eq 70us. Regards Thomas Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: naktalk at mail.geocities.com [mailto:naktalk at mail.geocities.com]On Behalf Of Jrdcesq at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, 3 August 1999 5:46 To: Naktalk mailinglist Subject: recording I have a dragon and would like to know how to set the record calibration and the bias? I will be using the TDK tapes, so is any of this necessary? If not do these functions defeat and how do you take them out of the circuit? ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck page. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Wed Aug 11 20:14:19 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:14:19 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] References: <852567CA.004FAD3E.00@Beethoven.condenast.com> Message-ID: <37B1BD7B.C47313D3@iconn.net> Ariston: Do you suggest anyplace to get it done? ES Labs in here in CT, and I know they're good but expensive. Jim Ariston_Malolos at condenast.com wrote: > Jim, > I have a BX300 so I can't speak for the other models that you have. > I still have the stock belt-driver transport. Fast Forward and Rewind are > barely--if at all--working. I definitely need the gear upgrade. Last time I > checked--about a year ago--the upgrade costs $200 + shipping. I believe > you need the same upgrade done to your BX300. > Hope it helps. > > Ariston > > Jim wrote: > > > (Embedded > image moved hofbroch at iconn.net > to file: 08/11/99 09:41 AM > pic13448.pcx) > > > Please respond to naktalk at naks.com > > To: naktalk at naks.com > cc: > Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] > > Hi: > > This is my first time writing anything to this site. I am an old-time Nak > fan, and I > own a 500, 550, BX300 and BX1. My 550 speed control is shot, and other > than the auto > off feature not working, it was working well. Anyone have any suggestions > about how I > get it fixed economically? (ES labs here in CT, who does great work, told > me it's not > worth fixing) Anyone out there have a reasonably priced 500 for sale that > works well? I > like it for the fact that it allows simultaneous line and mic inputs. > > My 550, a great machine I bought new in 1978, has a pokey ff and rew, both > lamps are > out, and I am pretty sure there are alignment problems and/or bias/eq > adjustments that > have to be made. Any suggestions, as to what may be wrong, or where to > fix/overhaul it > to spec for less than the $500 estimate that I got? > > As for my BX300, it makes great tapes but the rewind is very weak and it > makes a fair > bit of motor noise in both stop mode and when running. It's annoying and > probably > indicates a problem that I heard was common with the BX series. Anyone > have > suggestions about a fix? > > Thanks for responding. I have this get out since I am a computer > know-nothing. > > Jim Brochin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: pic13448.pcx > pic13448.pcx Type: PCX Image (application/x-unknown-content-type-pcxfile) > Encoding: base64 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Tue Aug 10 05:22:58 1999 From: Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:22:58 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] RE: recording In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199908100322.NAA15595@necagmx.neca.nec.com.au> Hello to you all, I believe that the calibration part of the Dragon is simillar to the ZX7/9. If you want to calibrate your deck to the TDK range of audio tapes then you will need to obtain all tape types from TDK (type I, type II and type IV). Get the type I tape and insert it into the unit. Set the bias and eq to Type I & 120us. At this point I believe you press the 400Hz calibration tone button and the unit will start to record. The dB meters will indicate what the machine is calibrated to, it should be at 0dB. If it is not at 0dB then adjust the knobs that are referencing to the 400Hz signal and the Type I tape (EX). Press the 15KHz signal button and make sure the dB meters are set at 0dB, again if they are not at 0dB then adjust the 15KHz knobs that are associated for Type I (EX). Repeat this process for Type II (SX) and type IV (ZX) tapes. And there you have it, you have now calibrated the unit. Please note that the above info I gave you may differ slightly to your Dragon. I am using a ZX9 and the procedure may be different from the Dragon. I hope I have not confused you too much. The tape settings for the Type II (SX) & Type IV (ZX) are as follows, Type II = bias SX & eq 70us, Type IV = bias ZX & eq 70us. Regards Thomas Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: naktalk at mail.geocities.com [mailto:naktalk at mail.geocities.com]On Behalf Of Jrdcesq at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, 3 August 1999 5:46 To: Naktalk mailinglist Subject: recording I have a dragon and would like to know how to set the record calibration and the bias? I will be using the TDK tapes, so is any of this necessary? If not do these functions defeat and how do you take them out of the circuit? ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= Naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck page. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ken.lunceford at lmco.com Wed Aug 11 20:24:30 1999 From: ken.lunceford at lmco.com (Lunceford, Ken) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:24:30 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] CR-70 & noise reduction Message-ID: Gerald, Is your deck a Japanese version CR-7? If yes, I am interested. Please advise with any other details: Owners Manual, box etc. Ken -----Original Message----- From: Gerald King [mailto:gking at mail.tqci.net] Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 3:32 PM To: Naktalk mailinglist Subject: [naktalk] CR-70 & noise reduction Hello People, I have a Nak CR-70 and a Nak High Com 11 Noise reduction system that I purchaced from a friend while stationed in Japan. I had the intention of having the cassette deck repaired. The problem with it is that when the door is closed it won't play. I was going to have it repaired but I since I already have a ZX-7 and I am getting ready to retire from the Navy I no longer have the time or the interest. I gave one hundred dollars for it. If anyone is interested I will sell both for that plus postage. It may be a gamble but it may also be an incredible bargain. I honestly do not know. It is a Japanese version so it is 100v. I am being totally honest and upfront here. Sincerly, Gerald King ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Wed Aug 11 20:53:43 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:53:43 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] References: <852567CA.004FAD3E.00@Beethoven.condenast.com> <37B1BD7B.C47313D3@iconn.net> Message-ID: <00b001bee42a$d6429640$063a5e18@stny.rr.com> I've had two decks serviced done by Stephen Sank at Champlain Valley, and am very pleased with both the quality and price. Here's the signature block off his e-mail: Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer ----- Original Message ----- From: James P. Brochin To: Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] > Ariston: > > Do you suggest anyplace to get it done? ES Labs in here in CT, and I know they're > good but expensive. > > Jim > > Ariston_Malolos at condenast.com wrote: > > > Jim, > > I have a BX300 so I can't speak for the other models that you have. > > I still have the stock belt-driver transport. Fast Forward and Rewind are > > barely--if at all--working. I definitely need the gear upgrade. Last time I > > checked--about a year ago--the upgrade costs $200 + shipping. I believe > > you need the same upgrade done to your BX300. > > Hope it helps. > > > > Ariston > > > > Jim wrote: > > > > > > (Embedded > > image moved hofbroch at iconn.net > > to file: 08/11/99 09:41 AM > > pic13448.pcx) > > > > > > Please respond to naktalk at naks.com > > > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > cc: > > Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] > > > > Hi: > > > > This is my first time writing anything to this site. I am an old-time Nak > > fan, and I > > own a 500, 550, BX300 and BX1. My 550 speed control is shot, and other > > than the auto > > off feature not working, it was working well. Anyone have any suggestions > > about how I > > get it fixed economically? (ES labs here in CT, who does great work, told > > me it's not > > worth fixing) Anyone out there have a reasonably priced 500 for sale that > > works well? I > > like it for the fact that it allows simultaneous line and mic inputs. > > > > My 550, a great machine I bought new in 1978, has a pokey ff and rew, both > > lamps are > > out, and I am pretty sure there are alignment problems and/or bias/eq > > adjustments that > > have to be made. Any suggestions, as to what may be wrong, or where to > > fix/overhaul it > > to spec for less than the $500 estimate that I got? > > > > As for my BX300, it makes great tapes but the rewind is very weak and it > > makes a fair > > bit of motor noise in both stop mode and when running. It's annoying and > > probably > > indicates a problem that I heard was common with the BX series. Anyone > > have > > suggestions about a fix? > > > > Thanks for responding. I have this get out since I am a computer > > know-nothing. > > > > Jim Brochin > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Name: pic13448.pcx > > pic13448.pcx Type: PCX Image (application/x-unknown-content-type-pcxfile) > > Encoding: base64 > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From danapple at vicor.com Wed Aug 11 21:51:25 1999 From: danapple at vicor.com (Daniel I. Applebaum) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:51:25 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Remote control for CR-2A In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:43:11 EDT." <4.1.19990811134234.00a20100@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <199908111951.MAA27656@rua.vicor.com> > Derrick Beckner writes: > Any of the TA-# recievers remotes will control your CR-2. Is the TA-# a full amp/preamp/tuner type of receiver, or just an infrared receiver? I don't think I want a full "receiver", as I just bought a new integrated amp. But I guess if it's cheap and can do the job, I could tuck in somewhere hidden just to do the IR work. Dan. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ptngnmo at hotmail.com Wed Aug 11 22:03:56 1999 From: ptngnmo at hotmail.com (ptngnmo ptngnmo) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:03:56 GMT Subject: [naktalk] CR-70 & noise reduction Message-ID: <19990811200356.11537.qmail@hotmail.com> I'm interested, can you send info/pics? Thanks. >Hello People, > > I have a Nak CR-70 and a Nak High Com 11 Noise reduction system that I >purchaced from a friend while stationed in Japan. >I had the intention of having the cassette deck repaired. The problem with >it is that when the door is closed it won't play. I was going to have it >repaired but I >since I already have a ZX-7 and I am getting ready to retire from the Navy >I no longer have the time or the interest. I gave one hundred dollars for >it. >If anyone is interested I will sell both for that plus postage. It may be >a gamble but it may also be an incredible bargain. I honestly do not know. >It is a Japanese version so it is 100v. I am being totally honest and >upfront >here. > >Sincerly, > >Gerald King > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Wed Aug 11 22:44:50 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:44:50 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] AW: recording References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F161@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Message-ID: <005101bee43a$5c1579e0$232f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Fendt Klaus To: Naktalk mailinglist Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 2:29 AM Subject: [naktalk] AW: recording > More things how to calibrate a Dragon. > > As a last hint: When you think that the high frequencies are not as brillant > as you like then try to adjust the 15kHz with two more LED's over the zero > point (I don't have in mind how the meter is marked at this point). I think > my "european" Dragon sounds much clearer with this setting. What Klaus is referring to is "over bias" adjustment. You can do that depending of the tape you're using. But, if you over do, the headroom of the tape would be reduced and you gonna saturated the tape at lower levels,so, be careful with the over bias procedure. Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From golfchance at hotmail.com Wed Aug 11 23:31:46 1999 From: golfchance at hotmail.com (Geoff Chase) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:31:46 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Mailing list Message-ID: <19990811213147.38914.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi. I've been inundated with emails from your site, and I would like them to stop. I can't even keep up with them. I don't remember requesting them, but if I did, I apologize. Please don't send any more. Thank you. Geoff Chase golfchance at hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From nholcomb at erols.com Thu Aug 12 01:37:46 1999 From: nholcomb at erols.com (Neil Holcomb) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:37:46 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] RX 202 Message-ID: <01ec01bee452$84e369a0$d040accf@xonwjike> Still looking for an owner's manual for my RX202. Anyone out there have a copy they could share with me. I'd greatly appreciate it! Also have a question for you audiophiles. I've been experimenting with interconnect with my digital sources with varying results. Any comments on what interconnect you use with your Naks: Budget:(Under$100) Sincerely, Neil Holcomb Herndon, VA email: nholcomb at erols.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From krogers at u-r-online.com Thu Aug 12 02:22:19 1999 From: krogers at u-r-online.com (Kevin Rogers) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:22:19 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] FS: Dragon References: <19990811165049.51139.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <003501bee458$bfbf68c0$731726d8@krogers> ----- Original Message ----- From: ptngnmo ptngnmo To: Sent: August 11, 1999 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] FS: Dragon > what other decks do you have for sale? Nothing else for sale right now. Would also consider a trade of the Dragon for a CR-7A. Kevin > > > >From: "Kevin Rogers" > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > >To: > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] FS: Dragon > >Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:25:39 -0400 > >MIME-Version: 1.0 > >From owner-naktalk at zebra.naks.com Tue Aug 10 16:57:49 1999 > >Received: from [194.109.91.137] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id > >MHotMailB97A077C0150D82197F0C26D5B8913720; Tue Aug 10 16:57:49 1999 > >Received: (from majordomo at localhost)by zebra.naks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id > >BAA23169for naktalk-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:29:57 +0200 > >Received: from ns.u-r-online.com (root at ns.u-r-online.com [216.38.23.2])by > >zebra.naks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23166for ; > >Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:29:51 +0200 > >Received: from krogers (ppp113.u-r-online.com [216.38.23.113])by > >ns.u-r-online.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA28170for > >; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:27:04 -0400 (EDT) > >Message-ID: <005801bee387$a93d2780$711726d8 at krogers> > >References: > >X-Priority: 3 > >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 > >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 > >Sender: owner-naktalk at naks.com > >Precedence: bulk > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Lawrence Devoe > >To: > >Sent: August 10, 1999 1:59 PM > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] FS: Dragon > > > > > > > How much do want for the deck? How old is it and how are the heads? I'm > >interested. > > > >Hi. I want to get $800.00 for the deck. I'm not sure how old it is, the > >serial no. is 07470 and the heads are fine, it works and looks great, I > >just > >don't need 2 and I have too many other decks. > > > >Kevin > > > > > > > > > > >>> "Kevin Rogers" 08/09/99 09:25PM >>> > > > Hello all. I have 2 Dragons, so one has to go! It is in excellent > >condition, with new pinch rollers and mechanism belt and a recent alignment > >by Sonic Sense. I have the original manual, but not box, however I am very > >good at packing. Offers? > > > > > > Kevin Rogers > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = > >======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = > >======= > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From doomsdayis at thedoor.net Thu Aug 12 03:45:57 1999 From: doomsdayis at thedoor.net (Dennis Reese) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:45:57 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] digest version Message-ID: <02c501bee464$6dc45b00$f28bf1cd@dr> Cheers, Wouter! Just a note to thank you for all your efforts. I'm sure I can't appreciate the time and effort you put into making this site available for all of us. Of course I could blame you for now owning a CR7 and Dragon! Don't ever let my wife catch you. All the best and sincere thanks! Dennis Reese -----Original Message----- From: Wouter Heijke To: naktalk at naks.com Date: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 10:55 AM Subject: [naktalk] digest version > >Hi. > >I've added a digest version for naktalk. If you want less naktalk mail >this is the list for you! >Note that if you want to get on the digest version you should remove >yourself from the regular version! > >Look here for more info: >http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/talk.html > >If there are any questions just mail me! > >Wouter > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From sarnik at worldnet.att.net Thu Aug 12 04:46:50 1999 From: sarnik at worldnet.att.net (George Sarnik) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 22:46:50 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] CR-70 & noise reduction In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001bee46c$edfe00c0$d4c54e0c@george> Mr. King: I'm really interested in both of your units! Please, let me know as soon as possible how does it look that CR-70, because I never heard of that model. How old is it ? With exemption of that broken door is it electrically and cosmetically OK? How many heads it has? Did you ever use it? Thank you very much. Sincerely, George Sarnik ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Brochin" Subject: Re: CR7A and RX-505 comparison Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 13:29:28 -0400 Size: 6692 URL: From Ariston_Malolos at condenast.com Wed Aug 11 16:30:42 1999 From: Ariston_Malolos at condenast.com (Ariston_Malolos at condenast.com) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:30:42 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] Message-ID: <852567CA.004FAD3E.00@Beethoven.condenast.com> Jim, I have a BX300 so I can't speak for the other models that you have. I still have the stock belt-driver transport. Fast Forward and Rewind are barely--if at all--working. I definitely need the gear upgrade. Last time I checked--about a year ago--the upgrade costs $200 + shipping. I believe you need the same upgrade done to your BX300. Hope it helps. Ariston Jim wrote: (Embedded image moved hofbroch at iconn.net to file: 08/11/99 09:41 AM pic13448.pcx) Please respond to naktalk at naks.com To: naktalk at naks.com cc: Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] Hi: This is my first time writing anything to this site. I am an old-time Nak fan, and I own a 500, 550, BX300 and BX1. My 550 speed control is shot, and other than the auto off feature not working, it was working well. Anyone have any suggestions about how I get it fixed economically? (ES labs here in CT, who does great work, told me it's not worth fixing) Anyone out there have a reasonably priced 500 for sale that works well? I like it for the fact that it allows simultaneous line and mic inputs. My 550, a great machine I bought new in 1978, has a pokey ff and rew, both lamps are out, and I am pretty sure there are alignment problems and/or bias/eq adjustments that have to be made. Any suggestions, as to what may be wrong, or where to fix/overhaul it to spec for less than the $500 estimate that I got? As for my BX300, it makes great tapes but the rewind is very weak and it makes a fair bit of motor noise in both stop mode and when running. It's annoying and probably indicates a problem that I heard was common with the BX series. Anyone have suggestions about a fix? Thanks for responding. I have this get out since I am a computer know-nothing. Jim Brochin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: pic13448.pcx Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2427 bytes Desc: not available URL: From wheijke at xs4all.nl Wed Aug 11 18:23:28 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:23:28 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] digest version Message-ID: <37B1A380.833C6DC2@xs4all.nl> Hi. I've added a digest version for naktalk. If you want less naktalk mail this is the list for you! 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ptngnmo at hotmail.com Wed Aug 11 18:50:49 1999 From: ptngnmo at hotmail.com (ptngnmo ptngnmo) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:50:49 GMT Subject: [naktalk] FS: Dragon Message-ID: <19990811165049.51139.qmail@hotmail.com> what other decks do you have for sale? >From: "Kevin Rogers" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: >Subject: Re: [naktalk] FS: Dragon >Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:25:39 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >From owner-naktalk at zebra.naks.com Tue Aug 10 16:57:49 1999 >Received: from [194.109.91.137] by hotmail.com (2.1) with ESMTP id >MHotMailB97A077C0150D82197F0C26D5B8913720; Tue Aug 10 16:57:49 1999 >Received: (from majordomo at localhost)by zebra.naks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id >BAA23169for naktalk-outgoing; Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:29:57 +0200 >Received: from ns.u-r-online.com (root at ns.u-r-online.com [216.38.23.2])by >zebra.naks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23166for ; >Wed, 11 Aug 1999 01:29:51 +0200 >Received: from krogers (ppp113.u-r-online.com [216.38.23.113])by >ns.u-r-online.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA28170for >; Tue, 10 Aug 1999 19:27:04 -0400 (EDT) >Message-ID: <005801bee387$a93d2780$711726d8 at krogers> >References: >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 >Sender: owner-naktalk at naks.com >Precedence: bulk > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Lawrence Devoe >To: >Sent: August 10, 1999 1:59 PM >Subject: Re: [naktalk] FS: Dragon > > > > How much do want for the deck? How old is it and how are the heads? I'm >interested. > >Hi. I want to get $800.00 for the deck. I'm not sure how old it is, the >serial no. is 07470 and the heads are fine, it works and looks great, I >just >don't need 2 and I have too many other decks. > >Kevin > > > > > > >>> "Kevin Rogers" 08/09/99 09:25PM >>> > > Hello all. I have 2 Dragons, so one has to go! It is in excellent >condition, with new pinch rollers and mechanism belt and a recent alignment >by Sonic Sense. I have the original manual, but not box, however I am very >good at packing. Offers? > > > > Kevin Rogers > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From dgb at psulias.psu.edu Wed Aug 11 19:43:11 1999 From: dgb at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:43:11 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Remote control for CR-2A In-Reply-To: <199908111723.KAA05634@rua.vicor.com> Message-ID: <4.1.19990811134234.00a20100@psulias.psu.edu> Any of the TA-# recievers remotes will control your CR-2. At 10:23 AM 8/11/99 -0700, you wrote: > >I'm interested in controlling my CR-2A via infrared remote control. >Right now, I have a wired control (RM-??). Is there any unit >available to provide wireless control for a CR series unit? > >Dan. >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= Derrick Beckner Penn State Historical Collections and Labor Archives W313 Pattee Library ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Wed Aug 11 20:14:19 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:14:19 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] References: <852567CA.004FAD3E.00@Beethoven.condenast.com> Message-ID: <37B1BD7B.C47313D3@iconn.net> Ariston: Do you suggest anyplace to get it done? ES Labs in here in CT, and I know they're good but expensive. Jim Ariston_Malolos at condenast.com wrote: > Jim, > I have a BX300 so I can't speak for the other models that you have. > I still have the stock belt-driver transport. Fast Forward and Rewind are > barely--if at all--working. I definitely need the gear upgrade. Last time I > checked--about a year ago--the upgrade costs $200 + shipping. I believe > you need the same upgrade done to your BX300. > Hope it helps. > > Ariston > > Jim wrote: > > > (Embedded > image moved hofbroch at iconn.net > to file: 08/11/99 09:41 AM > pic13448.pcx) > > > Please respond to naktalk at naks.com > > To: naktalk at naks.com > cc: > Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] > > Hi: > > This is my first time writing anything to this site. I am an old-time Nak > fan, and I > own a 500, 550, BX300 and BX1. My 550 speed control is shot, and other > than the auto > off feature not working, it was working well. Anyone have any suggestions > about how I > get it fixed economically? (ES labs here in CT, who does great work, told > me it's not > worth fixing) Anyone out there have a reasonably priced 500 for sale that > works well? I > like it for the fact that it allows simultaneous line and mic inputs. > > My 550, a great machine I bought new in 1978, has a pokey ff and rew, both > lamps are > out, and I am pretty sure there are alignment problems and/or bias/eq > adjustments that > have to be made. Any suggestions, as to what may be wrong, or where to > fix/overhaul it > to spec for less than the $500 estimate that I got? > > As for my BX300, it makes great tapes but the rewind is very weak and it > makes a fair > bit of motor noise in both stop mode and when running. It's annoying and > probably > indicates a problem that I heard was common with the BX series. Anyone > have > suggestions about a fix? > > Thanks for responding. I have this get out since I am a computer > know-nothing. > > Jim Brochin > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: pic13448.pcx > pic13448.pcx Type: PCX Image (application/x-unknown-content-type-pcxfile) > Encoding: base64 ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ken.lunceford at lmco.com Wed Aug 11 20:24:30 1999 From: ken.lunceford at lmco.com (Lunceford, Ken) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 11:24:30 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] CR-70 & noise reduction Message-ID: Gerald, Is your deck a Japanese version CR-7? If yes, I am interested. Please advise with any other details: Owners Manual, box etc. Ken -----Original Message----- From: Gerald King [mailto:gking at mail.tqci.net] Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 3:32 PM To: Naktalk mailinglist Subject: [naktalk] CR-70 & noise reduction Hello People, I have a Nak CR-70 and a Nak High Com 11 Noise reduction system that I purchaced from a friend while stationed in Japan. I had the intention of having the cassette deck repaired. The problem with it is that when the door is closed it won't play. I was going to have it repaired but I since I already have a ZX-7 and I am getting ready to retire from the Navy I no longer have the time or the interest. I gave one hundred dollars for it. If anyone is interested I will sell both for that plus postage. It may be a gamble but it may also be an incredible bargain. I honestly do not know. It is a Japanese version so it is 100v. I am being totally honest and upfront here. Sincerly, Gerald King ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Wed Aug 11 20:53:43 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 14:53:43 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] References: <852567CA.004FAD3E.00@Beethoven.condenast.com> <37B1BD7B.C47313D3@iconn.net> Message-ID: <00b001bee42a$d6429640$063a5e18@stny.rr.com> I've had two decks serviced done by Stephen Sank at Champlain Valley, and am very pleased with both the quality and price. Here's the signature block off his e-mail: Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer ----- Original Message ----- From: James P. Brochin To: Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 1999 2:14 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] > Ariston: > > Do you suggest anyplace to get it done? ES Labs in here in CT, and I know they're > good but expensive. > > Jim > > Ariston_Malolos at condenast.com wrote: > > > Jim, > > I have a BX300 so I can't speak for the other models that you have. > > I still have the stock belt-driver transport. Fast Forward and Rewind are > > barely--if at all--working. I definitely need the gear upgrade. Last time I > > checked--about a year ago--the upgrade costs $200 + shipping. I believe > > you need the same upgrade done to your BX300. > > Hope it helps. > > > > Ariston > > > > Jim wrote: > > > > > > (Embedded > > image moved hofbroch at iconn.net > > to file: 08/11/99 09:41 AM > > pic13448.pcx) > > > > > > Please respond to naktalk at naks.com > > > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > cc: > > Subject: [naktalk] [Fwd: CR7A and RX-505 comparison] > > > > Hi: > > > > This is my first time writing anything to this site. I am an old-time Nak > > fan, and I > > own a 500, 550, BX300 and BX1. My 550 speed control is shot, and other > > than the auto > > off feature not working, it was working well. Anyone have any suggestions > > about how I > > get it fixed economically? (ES labs here in CT, who does great work, told > > me it's not > > worth fixing) Anyone out there have a reasonably priced 500 for sale that > > works well? I > > like it for the fact that it allows simultaneous line and mic inputs. > > > > My 550, a great machine I bought new in 1978, has a pokey ff and rew, both > > lamps are > > out, and I am pretty sure there are alignment problems and/or bias/eq > > adjustments that > > have to be made. Any suggestions, as to what may be wrong, or where to > > fix/overhaul it > > to spec for less than the $500 estimate that I got? > > > > As for my BX300, it makes great tapes but the rewind is very weak and it > > makes a fair > > bit of motor noise in both stop mode and when running. It's annoying and > > probably > > indicates a problem that I heard was common with the BX series. Anyone > > have > > suggestions about a fix? > > > > Thanks for responding. I have this get out since I am a computer > > know-nothing. > > > > Jim Brochin > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Name: pic13448.pcx > > pic13448.pcx Type: PCX Image (application/x-unknown-content-type-pcxfile) > > Encoding: base64 > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From danapple at vicor.com Wed Aug 11 21:51:25 1999 From: danapple at vicor.com (Daniel I. Applebaum) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 12:51:25 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Remote control for CR-2A In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 11 Aug 1999 13:43:11 EDT." <4.1.19990811134234.00a20100@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <199908111951.MAA27656@rua.vicor.com> > Derrick Beckner writes: > Any of the TA-# recievers remotes will control your CR-2. Is the TA-# a full amp/preamp/tuner type of receiver, or just an infrared receiver? I don't think I want a full "receiver", as I just bought a new integrated amp. But I guess if it's cheap and can do the job, I could tuck in somewhere hidden just to do the IR work. Dan. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ptngnmo at hotmail.com Wed Aug 11 22:03:56 1999 From: ptngnmo at hotmail.com (ptngnmo ptngnmo) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 20:03:56 GMT Subject: [naktalk] CR-70 & noise reduction Message-ID: <19990811200356.11537.qmail@hotmail.com> I'm interested, can you send info/pics? Thanks. >Hello People, > > I have a Nak CR-70 and a Nak High Com 11 Noise reduction system that I >purchaced from a friend while stationed in Japan. >I had the intention of having the cassette deck repaired. The problem with >it is that when the door is closed it won't play. I was going to have it >repaired but I >since I already have a ZX-7 and I am getting ready to retire from the Navy >I no longer have the time or the interest. I gave one hundred dollars for >it. >If anyone is interested I will sell both for that plus postage. It may be >a gamble but it may also be an incredible bargain. I honestly do not know. >It is a Japanese version so it is 100v. I am being totally honest and >upfront >here. > >Sincerly, > >Gerald King > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Wed Aug 11 22:44:50 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 16:44:50 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] AW: recording References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F161@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Message-ID: <005101bee43a$5c1579e0$232f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Fendt Klaus To: Naktalk mailinglist Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 1999 2:29 AM Subject: [naktalk] AW: recording > More things how to calibrate a Dragon. > > As a last hint: When you think that the high frequencies are not as brillant > as you like then try to adjust the 15kHz with two more LED's over the zero > point (I don't have in mind how the meter is marked at this point). I think > my "european" Dragon sounds much clearer with this setting. What Klaus is referring to is "over bias" adjustment. You can do that depending of the tape you're using. But, if you over do, the headroom of the tape would be reduced and you gonna saturated the tape at lower levels,so, be careful with the over bias procedure. Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From golfchance at hotmail.com Wed Aug 11 23:31:46 1999 From: golfchance at hotmail.com (Geoff Chase) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 17:31:46 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Mailing list Message-ID: <19990811213147.38914.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi. I've been inundated with emails from your site, and I would like them to stop. I can't even keep up with them. I don't remember requesting them, but if I did, I apologize. Please don't send any more. Thank you. Geoff Chase golfchance at hotmail.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From nholcomb at erols.com Thu Aug 12 01:37:46 1999 From: nholcomb at erols.com (Neil Holcomb) Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 18:37:46 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] RX 202 Message-ID: <01ec01bee452$84e369a0$d040accf@xonwjike> Still looking for an owner's manual for my RX202. Anyone out there have a copy they could share with me. I'd greatly appreciate it! Also have a question for you audiophiles. I've been experimenting with interconnect with my digital sources with varying results. Any comments on what interconnect you use with your Naks: Budget:(Under$100) Sincerely, Neil Holcomb Herndon, VA email: nholcomb at erols.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Wed Aug 11 03:58:18 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Tue, 10 Aug 1999 20:58:18 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] FS: RX-303 References: <01BEE36E.E6C30200.countach@ptd.net> Message-ID: <37B0D8BA.654C@bestweb.net> Jim, It's easiest to describe the RX-303 as a two-head version of the famous RX-505. The only really noticeable external cosmetic difference between the two units would be the lack of a monitor switch on the 303. Otherwise, they virtually look identical. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From dialtone at thedoor.net Thu Aug 12 14:22:12 1999 From: dialtone at thedoor.net (Derek Reese) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 07:22:12 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] RX 202 In-Reply-To: <01ec01bee452$84e369a0$d040accf@xonwjike> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990812072212.00934be0@thedoor.net> Neil: I'd be happy to copy my manual for you. Regards, Derek dialtone at thedoor.net At 06:37 PM 8/11/99 -0500, you wrote: >Still looking for an owner's manual for my RX202. Anyone out there have a >copy they could share with me. I'd greatly appreciate it! > >Also have a question for you audiophiles. I've been experimenting with >interconnect with my digital sources with varying results. Any comments on >what interconnect you use with your Naks: >Budget:(Under$100) > > >Sincerely, > >Neil Holcomb >Herndon, VA > >email: nholcomb at erols.com > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Thu Aug 12 15:46:11 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:46:11 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Looking for Nak 500 References: <37AF3AA5.C2133CE1@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <37B2D023.4C3402D6@iconn.net> Hi: Anyone out there have a 500 in good shape for sale at a reasonable price? Jim Brochin Wouter Heijke wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I have moved naktalk to a new address and a new server: > > naktalk at naks.com > > You hay have noticed that the geocities webpage points to www.naks.com > and now the mailinglist is hosted on this server as well. > I use the same software as I did until the beginning of this year, this > makes it also possible to use a digest version of the list! > > So send any new naktalk mail to: > > naktalk at naks.com !!! > > Wouter > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MHPellerin at aol.com Thu Aug 12 17:24:44 1999 From: MHPellerin at aol.com (MHPellerin at aol.com) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:24:44 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Re:unsubscribe Message-ID: <5527dfaa.24e4413c@aol.com> Please take me off the mail list Thanks for everything ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From dgb at psulias.psu.edu Thu Aug 12 17:35:49 1999 From: dgb at psulias.psu.edu (Derrick Beckner) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 11:35:49 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] RX 202 In-Reply-To: <01ec01bee452$84e369a0$d040accf@xonwjike> Message-ID: <4.1.19990812112506.00a02340@psulias.psu.edu> Esoteric Audio makes good interconnects and speaker wire for a reasonable price. I have a three meter pair of EAs big ass guage speaker wires (about 1/2" thick) and the dramatically improved both effeciency of the speakers and the depth and width of the soundstage. All for under $100, including gold tipped bannana plugs. I suppose you could spend thousands on speaker wire, but again, its a question of cost and return. The interconects (can't remember the model, they were discontinued and about %50 off) delivered a more improved imaging and cleaner, tighter bass. Also have used Monster Cables, the Interconect 400s are pretty good, and about $40 a meter (for a pair), but the 100 and 200 (a little cheaper) don't do a whole lot better than your standard Nak interconnects (which are pretty decent compared the crap you usually get with a component). One BIG problem with Monster is that the RCA plugs are hard as hell to get in and out, but on the upside, it's definately giving better contact between the male and female plug. Also, cleaning your contacts does work wonders and increses conductivity, which is the whole point of cables to begin with. I think you hit the wall of diminishing returns with cables at about the $100 a meter price range unless you've got super high quality components. And even that I;m skeptical about, but enough people claim to hear the difference that I won't discount it completely. I've been experimenting with >interconnect with my digital sources with varying results. Any comments on >what interconnect you use with your Naks: >Budget:(Under$100) > > >Sincerely, > >Neil Holcomb >Herndon, VA > >email: nholcomb at erols.com > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= Derrick Beckner Penn State Historical Collections and Labor Archives W313 Pattee Library ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jaddie at netcom.ca Thu Aug 12 18:40:36 1999 From: jaddie at netcom.ca (John Addie) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:40:36 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Fare thee well... for now Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990812094036.007f7690@popd.netcom.ca> Hello to all you Nak-lovers!!! First off, makor kudo's to Wouter for the site!! and the mail list. I bought my first Nak in '74 or '75 ... a 500 was all that I could afford and it served me very well for a few years... when the motor started to 'slip' every so often... I took it in and was told that I needed a new motor and as the warrenty had expired by one week, I would have to pay for the full repair... estimated as $400 ('78 dollars!!!). So into storage went the 500, and off I went to another dealer and bought a new JVC KD-A8 ($800 '78 dollars -- almost 1 months salary), a very good unit which served me well for 20 years. As you can imagine, I have not gone back to that dealer since... However, a few years ago, I decided to once again get into the Nak field so that I could tape to tape and and bought a new DR-3, which became my main tape unit. In time, when my JVC started to first give up the ghost on recording.... and then started to collapsed completely, I also picked up a BX-2....(I made a connection with someone in my area who was selling it via a Nak-Talk posting) and that is my current set-up... a setup that gives me much pleasure and I do get good feedback from those who I trade tapes with about the sound of the tapes that they receive. So, the point of this note is to thank Wouter for the list etc. and also to thank the members of this list for their technical and enthusiastic postings. I have enjoyed reading your postings.... tho I dont read the ones that seem to be coming to me over and over again.... However, it is time for me to move on and I will be unsubcribing for a while... I fully expect to re-subscribe in the future... Quite franlkly, this is an interesting list!!! Til' we meet again... John ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Aug 12 23:42:24 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:42:24 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Summer Sale Message-ID: <002901bee50b$95084260$0b2f2ac4@coqui.net> I have too many decks here and my wife is getting agresive,so, I need to sell some: Nak 700 Nak 600 Nak 500 All working and in good condition. Perhaps a new set of belts on the 600's and 500's for maximum assurance. Good cosmetics. The 500 is very nice sounding and simple. Clean. The 600 includes an smoked dust cover. No manuals on either one. The 700 have some scratches on the aluminum face but minimal if you take in consideration her years. The rest of the deck is just wonderful. No manual available. Asking fair prices. Buyer pays shipping and insurance. Can use Fedex, UPS or Priority Mail. Money Order, Visa or Mastercard. Best, Carlos J. Guzman Copytech Corporation ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mikemary at concentric.net Fri Aug 13 00:04:02 1999 From: mikemary at concentric.net (Mary & Mike Kilpatrick) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 17:04:02 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Summer Sale In-Reply-To: <002901bee50b$95084260$0b2f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: Carlos, I'm interested in the 500 if you would care to E-mail me a price. Thanks, Mike choicecall at email.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Mike.Lee at usa.xerox.com Thu Aug 12 22:39:27 1999 From: Mike.Lee at usa.xerox.com (Lee, Mike) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 13:39:27 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] ZX-7 for sale Message-ID: <0670B83B1F99D2118DAF00805F6505C901360673@USAESMS1> Hello folks, I have a Nakamichi ZX-7 for sale. The reason I am selling is that I have two other ZX-7s and I would like to use the money to upgrade my turntable. The unit is in excellent to mint condition and has been recently brought up to specs by Nakamichi. They went through the unit and replaced belts, reel spindles, pinch rollers, some capacitors, the light bulb in the cassette compartment and the usual cleaning and adjustments that are in the service to bring it up to factory specifications. The service cost ~$250.00. I live near Torrance, California right near Nakamichi America's Corporate headquarters so it was easy for me to bring it in. The unit will be shipped in its original box and come with a copy of the manual. I am asking $550.00. If there are any other questions please e-mail me. For those of you who are not familiar with the ZX-7 the following sites can provide some information: http://www.xs4all.nl/~wheijke/nak/index1.html http://henge1.henge.com/~sncsns/ (look under "Q: What are your favorite Naks?") Thanks Mike e-mail mike.lee at usa.xerox.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From kleimann at wt.net Fri Aug 13 01:54:52 1999 From: kleimann at wt.net (Rudy J. Kleimann III) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:54:52 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Looking for Nak 500 In-Reply-To: <37B2D023.4C3402D6@iconn.net> References: <37AF3AA5.C2133CE1@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990812185452.00798a40@mail.wt.net> I have a 600II For Sale, with manuals, lierature, warranty card, service records, Nakamichi smoked plexiglas dust cover, and original box and packing material. Far better than the 500. $250 At 09:46 AM 8/12/99 -0400, you wrote: >Hi: > >Anyone out there have a 500 in good shape for sale at a reasonable price? > >Jim Brochin > >Wouter Heijke wrote: > >> Hi everyone! >> >> I have moved naktalk to a new address and a new server: >> >> naktalk at naks.com >> >> You hay have noticed that the geocities webpage points to www.naks.com >> and now the mailinglist is hosted on this server as well. >> I use the same software as I did until the beginning of this year, this >> makes it also possible to use a digest version of the list! >> >> So send any new naktalk mail to: >> >> naktalk at naks.com !!! >> >> Wouter >> >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From kleimann at wt.net Fri Aug 13 01:57:05 1999 From: kleimann at wt.net (Rudy J. Kleimann III) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 18:57:05 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] RX 202 In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.19990812072212.00934be0@thedoor.net> References: <01ec01bee452$84e369a0$d040accf@xonwjike> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990812185705.0079ce00@mail.wt.net> I'd like to get a copy of the RX-202 Manual, as I too own an RX-202. High-quality scan and attachment to e-mail ok by me. How were you planning on doing it for thie other fellow asking for a copy? Thanks, Rudy At 07:22 AM 8/12/99 -0500, you wrote: >Neil: > >I'd be happy to copy my manual for you. > >Regards, > >Derek >dialtone at thedoor.net > > >At 06:37 PM 8/11/99 -0500, you wrote: >>Still looking for an owner's manual for my RX202. Anyone out there have a >>copy they could share with me. I'd greatly appreciate it! >> >>Also have a question for you audiophiles. I've been experimenting with >>interconnect with my digital sources with varying results. Any comments on >>what interconnect you use with your Naks: >>Budget:(Under$100) >> >> >>Sincerely, >> >>Neil Holcomb >>Herndon, VA >> >>email: nholcomb at erols.com >> >>========------------------------------------------------------------------= >======== >>naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >>TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >>========------------------------------------------------------------------= >======== >>========------------------------------------------------------------------= >======== >>naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >>TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >>========------------------------------------------------------------------= >======== >> > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jaddie at netcom.ca Thu Aug 12 18:40:36 1999 From: jaddie at netcom.ca (John Addie) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 09:40:36 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Fare thee well... for now Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19990812094036.007f7690@popd.netcom.ca> Hello to all you Nak-lovers!!! First off, makor kudo's to Wouter for the site!! and the mail list. I bought my first Nak in '74 or '75 ... a 500 was all that I could afford and it served me very well for a few years... when the motor started to 'slip' every so often... I took it in and was told that I needed a new motor and as the warrenty had expired by one week, I would have to pay for the full repair... estimated as $400 ('78 dollars!!!). So into storage went the 500, and off I went to another dealer and bought a new JVC KD-A8 ($800 '78 dollars -- almost 1 months salary), a very good unit which served me well for 20 years. As you can imagine, I have not gone back to that dealer since... However, a few years ago, I decided to once again get into the Nak field so that I could tape to tape and and bought a new DR-3, which became my main tape unit. In time, when my JVC started to first give up the ghost on recording.... and then started to collapsed completely, I also picked up a BX-2....(I made a connection with someone in my area who was selling it via a Nak-Talk posting) and that is my current set-up... a setup that gives me much pleasure and I do get good feedback from those who I trade tapes with about the sound of the tapes that they receive. So, the point of this note is to thank Wouter for the list etc. and also to thank the members of this list for their technical and enthusiastic postings. I have enjoyed reading your postings.... tho I dont read the ones that seem to be coming to me over and over again.... However, it is time for me to move on and I will be unsubcribing for a while... I fully expect to re-subscribe in the future... Quite franlkly, this is an interesting list!!! Til' we meet again... John ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From cjsfeng at sfu.ca Fri Aug 13 08:19:34 1999 From: cjsfeng at sfu.ca (Desmond Hidson) Date: Thu, 12 Aug 1999 23:19:34 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] RX 202 References: <01ec01bee452$84e369a0$d040accf@xonwjike> Message-ID: <37B3B8F0.6088470@sfu.ca> Hi Neil .... Sorry, I cannot help you with the manuals, but as for interconnects try making your own with shielded twisted pair cable. ie. Microphone Cable or balanced audio cable. This way you get a positive conductor, a negative conductor and a shield. Some come with a drain wire (preferred, especially working with RCA jacks). There are a variety of Professional manufacturers: Beldon, Canare, Mogami, Connectronics. Find a Pro Audio dealer or sound reinforcement company (PA) or check your local recording studios. See what they use. You can experiment and make up different sets, then pick the wire you prefer the sound of. You may want to borrow, rent (if you can) or purchase a capacitance tester (or get chummy with an engineer - tech type dude) and test the various cables. Your usual (Beldon) balanced audio path type cable is 22 gauge, has 2 conductors (twisted pair, red & black) each with 7 strands of tinned copper, an aluminum shield with a drain wire. Aluminum is good, it has the least effect on the magnetic field generated by the audio signal (read: least compression). Except Mogami Neglex which has a standed copper shield, comes it three gauges. I use the miniature for phono cables. It has around 22 strands of oxygen free copper per conductor. I am not that familiar with Canare, I know they have a coaxial (which I do not use, I do not use any coxial), but I use their Star Quad microphone cable for some applications which has four conductors, 2 (blue) for positive, 2 (white) for negative. The Canare does not have a drain wire, one has to work with the braided shield which is tinned copper. The conductors are multi stranded oxygen free copper. This cable are designed for seriously EFI problematic scenarios. And has major capacitance. I am only familiar with Gotham's microphone cable, which has 3 multi-stranded coductors and a double stranded copper shield. All these manufactures have various cables for varous apllications, so many it will make your head spin. But not as bad a trying to follow the Hi Fi boutique voodoo stuff that's out there. As for RCA jacks, Radio Shack, yes Radio Shack sell a decent RCA jack. They come in pairs of blue, red and yellow banding and print. They're about $10.00 CDN a package of two. If you are going to be plugging and unplugging the cables frequently then get Neutrik Profi RCA's, they sell in Canada for around $20.00 a pair. Of course there is Tiffany, and I think we all know WBT. Now the trick is to connect the shield drain wire to the negative at only one end. One should mark it to maintain consistent wiring. I connect the shield at the left jack, reading the lettering on the cable left to right to indicate signal flow. I plug in the cable with the shield going the opposite direction to the signal flow. Where which end goes is ones personal choice and is usually established through listening tests. Remember, always have as short a signal path as practicably possible. And if that is all too much hassle, good old Monster Cable Interlink 400. It's a high quality multi-standed twisted pair with an aluminum shield, terminated as described above. And if you are not in a high EFI, RFI area Kimber PBJ. (notice they manufacture a sheilded cable now ???) I use Connectronics Musiflex Microphone cable for interconnect cables, between my preamp and power amp, and my preamp and Sister-in-laws Cassette Deck 2, (that I replaced the motor and belt in). I plan to send it in to Nakamichi Canada for a bias tuning (I am borrowing it until I can find a used ZX-7). Have fun ... Desmond Neil Holcomb wrote: > Still looking for an owner's manual for my RX202. Anyone out there have a > copy they could share with me. I'd greatly appreciate it! > > Also have a question for you audiophiles. I've been experimenting with > interconnect with my digital sources with varying results. Any comments on > what interconnect you use with your Naks: > Budget:(Under$100) > > Sincerely, > > Neil Holcomb > Herndon, VA > > email: nholcomb at erols.com > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Fri Aug 13 14:52:34 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 08:52:34 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Summer Sale References: <002901bee50b$95084260$0b2f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <37B41511.47FE30BB@iconn.net> Carlos: Thanks for writing back. My question about the 700 may have been badly worded. Can you simultaneously record from line and mic, (the 500 has that feature) which eliminates the need for an outboard mixer for that purpose? I would be willing to pay no more than $100 for the 500, and for the 700, I'll await your reply about my question. Do you anticipate any need for maintenance at all on the 700 in the near future. If so, what kind of maintenance? As you know, Naks can be very expensive to fix. jim Carlos wrote: > I have too many decks here and my wife is getting agresive,so, I need to > sell some: > > Nak 700 > Nak 600 > Nak 500 > > All working and in good condition. Perhaps a new set of belts on the 600's > and 500's for maximum assurance. Good cosmetics. The 500 is very nice > sounding and simple. Clean. > The 600 includes an smoked dust cover. No manuals on either one. > > The 700 have some scratches on the aluminum face but minimal if you take in > consideration her years. The rest of the deck is just wonderful. No manual > available. > > Asking fair prices. Buyer pays shipping and insurance. Can use Fedex, UPS or > Priority Mail. Money Order, Visa or Mastercard. > > Best, > > Carlos J. Guzman > Copytech Corporation > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From copytec at coqui.net Fri Aug 13 16:37:40 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:37:40 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Summer Sale References: <002901bee50b$95084260$0b2f2ac4@coqui.net> <37B41511.47FE30BB@iconn.net> Message-ID: <003601bee599$65ef6f60$622f2ac4@coqui.net> Jim: My 500 is not a deck for parts. It is mint, working and looking very good. As for maintenance speaking, everytime I received a used deck no matter the condition or where they come from, I perform a preventive tune -up like cleaning, lubing and belts changing. Sometimes even Bias and EQ re-adjustment. Remember, we are speaking of machines with 20+ years here. They're like used cars: you can not guarantee is not gonna brake next month. The 500, 700 and 1000 series can record simultaneously from the line and mic inputs. They were designed with that option in mind. Please check Wouter's Nakamichi page to see further details. As for expensive repairs: this is a hobby. We are collecting historical pieces here. So, I suppose you know where you're getting in. If you can perform basic procedures yourself, you gonna save a lot of money, time and your machines will be running smooth. Finally, please, let's gonna keep this sales conversations privately and out of the list. Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: James P. Brochin To: naktalk at naks.com Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Summer Sale Carlos: Thanks for writing back. My question about the 700 may have been badly worded. Can you simultaneously record from line and mic, (the 500 has that feature) which eliminates the need for an outboard mixer for that purpose? I would be willing to pay no more than $100 for the 500, and for the 700, I'll await your reply about my question. Do you anticipate any need for maintenance at all on the 700 in the near future. If so, what kind of maintenance? As you know, Naks can be very expensive to fix. jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From copytec at coqui.net Fri Aug 13 16:40:40 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 10:40:40 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Looking for Nak 500 References: <37AF3AA5.C2133CE1@xs4all.nl> <3.0.5.32.19990812185452.00798a40@mail.wt.net> Message-ID: <003c01bee599$d126f1e0$622f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Rudy J. Kleimann III To: Sent: Thursday, August 12, 1999 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Looking for Nak 500 > I have a 600II For Sale, with manuals, lierature, warranty card, service > records, Nakamichi smoked plexiglas dust cover, and original box and > packing material. Far better than the 500. Yeah, that's true, but you can not use mics without having the external mixer. Any person looking for a 500 these days is because of the external recording flexibility. They were like an "standard" for live performance in the 70's. Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Fri Aug 13 23:40:17 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 17:40:17 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Summer Sale References: <002901bee50b$95084260$0b2f2ac4@coqui.net> <37B41511.47FE30BB@iconn.net> <003601bee599$65ef6f60$622f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <37B490C1.3B4A57F7@iconn.net> Thank for your reply. I may have sent my last message to the list in error. I'm new to this. Sorry. I'll get back to you next week. Jim Carlos wrote: > Jim: My 500 is not a deck for parts. It is mint, working and looking > very good. As for maintenance speaking, everytime I received a used > deck no matter the condition or where they come from, I perform a > preventive tune -up like cleaning, lubing and belts changing. > Sometimes even Bias and EQ re-adjustment. Remember, we are speaking of > machines with 20+ years here.They're like used cars: you can not > guarantee is not gonna brake next month. The 500, 700 and 1000 series > can record simultaneously from the line and mic inputs. They were > designed with that option in mind. Please checkWouter's Nakamichi page > to see further details. As for expensive repairs: this is a hobby. We > are collecting historical pieces here. So, I suppose you know where > you're getting in. If you can perform basic procedures yourself, you > gonna save a lot of money, time and your machines will be running > smooth. Finally, please, let's gonna keep this sales conversations > privately and out of the list. Best, Carlos > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James P. Brochin > To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Friday, August 13, 1999 8:52 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Summer Sale > Carlos: > > Thanks for writing back. My question about the 700 may have > been badly worded. Can you simultaneously record from line > and mic, (the 500 has that feature) which eliminates the > need for an outboard mixer for that purpose? > > I would be willing to pay no more than $100 for the 500, and > for the 700, I'll await your reply about my question. Do > you anticipate any need for maintenance at all on the 700 in > the near future. If so, what kind of maintenance? As you > know, Naks can be very expensive to fix. > > jim > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From RBBowe at aol.com Sat Aug 14 05:08:36 1999 From: RBBowe at aol.com (RBBowe at aol.com) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 23:08:36 EDT Subject: [naktalk] My LX-3 records -- sometimes Message-ID: <79ac3c0d.24e637b4@aol.com> Bought an LX-3 on E-bay a couple of months ago. It will record one side of a 90-minute tape normally and then when I flip it over and press record and pause nothing happens. Is it just sick of recording after so many years or does it get overheated or what? Thanks. Bob ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Sat Aug 14 05:35:45 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Fri, 13 Aug 1999 21:35:45 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] My LX-3 records -- sometimes References: <79ac3c0d.24e637b4@aol.com> Message-ID: <37B4E411.32F25254@emall-online.com> Depending on exactly what indications or noises you get when the deck does "nothing", your problem may be as simple as a worn mechanism mode drive belt, or intermittent components in the erase/bias oscillator, or may be, at most, a thermal problem in the logic circuits. With me, that puts it in the cost range of $90-150, probably more towards the lower. This would include full precision calibration & routine maintenance. Please feel free to call if you have any questions or additional symptomology for diagnosis. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer RBBowe at aol.com wrote: > > Bought an LX-3 on E-bay a couple of months ago. It will record one side of a > 90-minute tape normally and then when I flip it over and press record and > pause nothing happens. Is it just sick of recording after so many years or > does it get overheated or what? Thanks. Bob > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Sun Aug 15 02:15:16 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:15:16 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] RX 202 References: <4.1.19990812112506.00a02340@psulias.psu.edu> Message-ID: <37B60694.B6B13707@ozemail.com.au> I use Kimber PBJ - the drain wire ( it doesn't act as a screen) floating at the Nak end - earthed to neutral at the source. Inputs and Outputs are hard wired into the Dragon & have ferrite core RF filters placed around cable either end. Kimber has a horrible habit of oxidizing under the dielectric and on my setup it is about to be replaced. I'm thinking about balanced interconnects for the Dragon as my tech mate (buddy in the U.S) wants to build a dedicated balanced internal amp stage for the Dragon. (Not purist, but then my Dragon wears nail polish on its buttons anyway.) Anyone out there gone the balanced interconnect route before? Nakamaniac Greetings, John H. Derrick Beckner wrote: > Esoteric Audio makes good interconnects and speaker wire for a reasonable > price. I have a three meter pair of EAs big ass guage speaker wires (about > 1/2" thick) and the dramatically improved both effeciency of the speakers > and the depth and width of the soundstage. All for under $100, including > gold tipped bannana plugs. I suppose you could spend thousands on speaker > wire, but again, its a question of cost and return. The interconects > (can't remember the model, they were discontinued and about %50 off) > delivered a more improved imaging and cleaner, tighter bass. > Also have used Monster Cables, the Interconect 400s are pretty good, and > about $40 a meter (for a pair), but the 100 and 200 (a little cheaper) > don't do a whole lot better than your standard Nak interconnects (which are > pretty decent compared the crap you usually get with a component). One BIG > problem with Monster is that the RCA plugs are hard as hell to get in and > out, but on the upside, it's definately giving better contact between the > male and female plug. Also, cleaning your contacts does work wonders and > increses conductivity, which is the whole point of cables to begin with. > > I think you hit the wall of diminishing returns with cables at about the > $100 a meter price range unless you've got super high quality components. > And even that I;m skeptical about, but enough people claim to hear the > difference that I won't discount it completely. > > I've been experimenting with > >interconnect with my digital sources with varying results. Any comments on > >what interconnect you use with your Naks: > >Budget:(Under$100) > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Neil Holcomb > >Herndon, VA > > > >email: nholcomb at erols.com > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== > >======= > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== > >======= > > Derrick Beckner > Penn State Historical Collections > and Labor Archives > W313 Pattee Library > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From cjsfeng at sfu.ca Sun Aug 15 10:39:52 1999 From: cjsfeng at sfu.ca (Desmond Hidson) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 01:39:52 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] RX 202 References: <4.1.19990812112506.00a02340@psulias.psu.edu> <37B60694.B6B13707@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <37B67CD6.6143F45F@sfu.ca> Hi ... Why add all that extra circuitry's influence into the audio path? Why add the sound an op amp to your recordings? Does the Nak's input require interfacing with a 600 ohm balanced source? If so, there are a variety of professional inferface preamps availalble at various price points. The PBJ is in essence a balanced interconnect. +, -, and a drain wire acting as (what I think of as) an antenna instead of a drain wire for a shield. Just enjoy the music from the tape it produces. If it ain't broke ... Don't fix it. mdhjwh wrote: > I use Kimber PBJ - the drain wire ( it doesn't act as a screen) > floating at the Nak end - earthed to neutral at the source. > Inputs and Outputs are hard wired into the Dragon & have ferrite core > RF filters placed around cable either end. > Kimber has a horrible habit of oxidizing under the dielectric and on > my setup it is about to be replaced. > I'm thinking about balanced interconnects for the Dragon as my tech > mate (buddy in the U.S) wants to build a dedicated balanced > internal amp stage for the Dragon. (Not purist, but then my Dragon > wears nail polish on its buttons anyway.) > Anyone out there gone the balanced interconnect route before? > Nakamaniac Greetings, > John H. > > Derrick Beckner wrote: > > > Esoteric Audio makes good interconnects and speaker wire for a reasonable > > price. I have a three meter pair of EAs big ass guage speaker wires (about > > 1/2" thick) and the dramatically improved both effeciency of the speakers > > and the depth and width of the soundstage. All for under $100, including > > gold tipped bannana plugs. I suppose you could spend thousands on speaker > > wire, but again, its a question of cost and return. The interconects > > (can't remember the model, they were discontinued and about %50 off) > > delivered a more improved imaging and cleaner, tighter bass. > > Also have used Monster Cables, the Interconect 400s are pretty good, and > > about $40 a meter (for a pair), but the 100 and 200 (a little cheaper) > > don't do a whole lot better than your standard Nak interconnects (which are > > pretty decent compared the crap you usually get with a component). One BIG > > problem with Monster is that the RCA plugs are hard as hell to get in and > > out, but on the upside, it's definately giving better contact between the > > male and female plug. Also, cleaning your contacts does work wonders and > > increses conductivity, which is the whole point of cables to begin with. > > > > I think you hit the wall of diminishing returns with cables at about the > > $100 a meter price range unless you've got super high quality components. > > And even that I;m skeptical about, but enough people claim to hear the > > difference that I won't discount it completely. > > > > I've been experimenting with > > >interconnect with my digital sources with varying results. Any comments on > > >what interconnect you use with your Naks: > > >Budget:(Under$100) > > > > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > > > >Neil Holcomb > > >Herndon, VA > > > > > >email: nholcomb at erols.com > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > >======= > > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > >======= > > > > Derrick Beckner > > Penn State Historical Collections > > and Labor Archives > > W313 Pattee Library > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Sun Aug 15 17:37:48 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 10:37:48 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Cables References: <4.1.19990812112506.00a02340@psulias.psu.edu> <37B60694.B6B13707@ozemail.com.au> <37B67CD6.6143F45F@sfu.ca> Message-ID: <37B6DECC.6D4B@bestweb.net> Nakfans, My favorite cables are the original Monster Cable Interlink Reference Cables that originally arrived on the scene in late 1983. (They are more or less in the $100 to $200 range depending on length, but could be found discounted if you shopped carefully.) They were among the first of the so-called audiophile cables to appear back then and were very highly regarded by audio reviewers and "civilians" alike. Since then, there has been a vast proliferation of increasingly more exotic (and expensive!) cables that are supposed to literally reveal the voice of God. I'm certain they are all good, but I have yet to hear ANY cables that knock those old Interlink cables off the top of the hill for me. They just sound RIGHT to me: the perfect combination of smoothness, detailing, accuracy and dymnamics. They aren't "polite" like some cables I've heard. They are juicy and ballsy sounding when called on to be. Yet they can sound very delicate and sweet when THAT'S what's called for. These classics are no longer made, but occasionally you can find them at audio stores that sell used cables. I was lucky enough to find a few pairs of varying lengths new in the box at a local audio salon's going out of business sale. Monster also later manufactured Interlink Reference A cables and Reference 2 cables. They sound a little different, but they are in the same ball park and also deserve consideration. (I don't like them QUITE as much.) These cables are very heavy and thick with shiny black jackets. They look very substantial and well made. I love 'em! My whole rig is set up with it. I realize this is all very subjective, but I am definitely not alone in my opinion. If you can find some, check them out. You won't regret it. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From woodfall at yahoo.com Sun Aug 15 17:31:21 1999 From: woodfall at yahoo.com (patrick cronin) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 08:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [naktalk] hisssss Message-ID: <19990815153121.9226.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> i have a bx-300 and am recording live stuff of the radio(grateful dead hour, etc..) Lately i have been getting some noticeable hiss on the recordings. I have kept the heads very clean,demagnatized, and other wise kept great care of the deck. I have the equalizer switch set at sx(II) as i am using maxell XL-II s tapes. I have the bias tune control set at center. I have decent, but not great cables. Any ideas to help rectify my problem? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From cjsfeng at sfu.ca Sun Aug 15 20:59:08 1999 From: cjsfeng at sfu.ca (Desmond Hidson) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 11:59:08 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] hisssss References: <19990815153121.9226.rocketmail@web119.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <37B70DF9.BC5FCF92@sfu.ca> i. Try adjusting the bias setting, clockwise to over bias. ii. If Maxell XL-II is your tape of choice, send the machine in to be calibrated to that tape. Send a sample of the normal and metal tapes you prefer as well. ii. If your machine is tuned (calibrated) properly use Dolby C and don't forget to use the MPX filter if you do use Dolby NR when recording off FM. iii. Your cables don't have anything to do with tape hiss. iv. Do not over demagnetize (too much will have the reverse effect) about every twenty hours of recording v. Try TDK SA. (flattest response according to Nakamichi, so much so you need not use SAX) vi. all the above provided the hiss does not originate from the source. patrick cronin wrote: > i have a bx-300 and am recording live stuff of the radio(grateful dead > hour, etc..) Lately i have been getting some noticeable hiss on the > recordings. I have kept the heads very clean,demagnatized, and other > wise kept great care of the deck. I have the equalizer switch set at > sx(II) as i am using maxell XL-II s tapes. I have the bias tune > control set at center. I have decent, but not great cables. Any ideas > to help rectify my problem? > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From cjsfeng at sfu.ca Sun Aug 15 22:39:46 1999 From: cjsfeng at sfu.ca (Desmond Hidson) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 13:39:46 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Cables References: <4.1.19990812112506.00a02340@psulias.psu.edu> <37B60694.B6B13707@ozemail.com.au> <37B67CD6.6143F45F@sfu.ca> <37B6DECC.6D4B@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <37B7258C.D208F380@sfu.ca> Hi everyone ... Monster still makes Interlink 400, a decent affordable cable. A good starting point. Just changing from a coaxial cable to a shielded twisted pair is a marked improvement. An aluminum foil shield (there will be a drain) is the next best to nothing. After that one can get as silly as one is willing to. Anyone ever consider improving the recording source, than looking for exotic cables. The subjective changes made by some voodoo cables can also be heard after passing gas in the listening environment. The sonic differences will depend on whether one had had a few cold ones or a few mocca javas. Chili or Salsa? Whoa! Watch out there goes the high end. Seriously, before all that pick "a" specific tape manufacturer (TDK, Ampex, whatever ), get your machine calibrated and stick to that tape. Tom Bergman wrote: > Nakfans, > My favorite cables are the original Monster Cable Interlink > Reference Cables that originally arrived on the scene in late 1983. > (They are more or less in the $100 to $200 range depending on length, > but could be found discounted if you shopped carefully.) They were > among the first of the so-called audiophile cables to appear back then > and were very highly regarded by audio reviewers and "civilians" alike. > Since then, there has been a vast proliferation of increasingly more > exotic (and expensive!) cables that are supposed to literally reveal the > voice of God. I'm certain they are all good, but I have yet to hear ANY > cables that knock those old Interlink cables off the top of the hill for > me. They just sound RIGHT to me: the perfect combination of smoothness, > detailing, accuracy and dymnamics. They aren't "polite" like some > cables I've heard. They are juicy and ballsy sounding when called on to > be. Yet they can sound very delicate and sweet when THAT'S what's > called for. These classics are no longer made, but occasionally you can > find them at audio stores that sell used cables. I was lucky enough to > find a few pairs of varying lengths new in the box at a local audio > salon's going out of business sale. Monster also later manufactured > Interlink Reference A cables and Reference 2 cables. They sound a > little different, but they are in the same ball park and also deserve > consideration. (I don't like them QUITE as much.) These cables are > very heavy and thick with shiny black jackets. They look very > substantial and well made. I love 'em! My whole rig is set up with > it. I realize this is all very subjective, but I am definitely not > alone in my opinion. If you can find some, check them out. You won't > regret it. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From rbakley at nova.org Mon Aug 16 03:55:42 1999 From: rbakley at nova.org (Robert Bakley) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:55:42 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] FA: MR-2 w/Reel Motor Upgrade on eBay References: <005801bee387$a93d2780$711726d8@krogers> Message-ID: <000d01bee78a$730d30e0$0500a8c0@zephyr> For Auction on eBay: Nakamichi MR-2 Professional 2 Head Cassette Deck. Has reel motor upgrade installed and has been recently serviced. Reserve price is $225.00 http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=147580169 bob rbakley at nova.org ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Mon Aug 16 06:14:01 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Sun, 15 Aug 1999 21:14:01 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Re: CR7A and RX-505 :Nakamaniacs Message-ID: John H!!! I'm pleased to learn that your experiences with the RX-505 compared closely to the Dragon. That certainly substantiates my earlier statement! Unfortunate that you traded your Nak for a Revox. My sympathies. At least you retained the Dragon??? Regards, Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:35:06 mdhjwh wrote: > > >>The BlueSwapper wrote: >>"I often refer to my RX-505 as the Mini-Dragon! >But that's my personal opinion!!!"< >mdhjwh wrote: >I ran an RX - 505 side by side with my Dragon for years and found them sounding almost identical (you a had to listen very hard to spot the Dragons slightly more solid >bass line. Both had been internally rewired with Kimber cable from the same reel >and had a few resistors etc upgraded. Both were hard wired input to output) >I wish that I had never traded my 505 in on a Revox B770 reel to reel. This machine >was a disaster new out of the carton . In Melbourne , Australia trying >to find a good tech for the Revox proved impossible - they were at the time all >earning big money in the recording and film industry. >What drives me mad about Nak's is the fiddly little ergonomic nightmare black >switches (Always black on a black background ) >Are we meant to manipulate these things with pointed Japanese chopsticks? >This now endemic problem has reared it's ugly head again on my Sony DVD remote. >Bloody things should come with a magnifying glass! >My solution for the dragon (purists read no further) is to paint the fiddly >little buttons with a range of nail polish. Red - bias. Green - Dolby. >Silver - MPX filter. etc etc. > >Have any subscribers to this group know of other Nakamaniacs in >Australia. Apart from my friend the Nak technician from the hills ( a Nak >wizard! ! ! ! - he also makes delicious amps), I know of no other Nak >enthusiasts in Australia. >We would both be happy to learn of others. >Secular Objectivist Blessings, >John H > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bochar at epix.net Mon Aug 16 06:29:07 1999 From: bochar at epix.net (bob) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 00:29:07 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: CR7A and RX-505 :Nakamaniacs References: Message-ID: <37B79393.5CDEA9D7@epix.net> what is this stuff about upgrading internal parts on nak decks? good, bad, indifferent. never heard of it before.. but then a tweak will tweak anything.. comments, lessons, thanks bob The BlueSwapper wrote: > > John H!!! > > I'm pleased to learn that your experiences with the RX-505 compared closely to the Dragon. That certainly substantiates my earlier statement! > > Unfortunate that you traded your Nak for a Revox. My sympathies. At least you retained the Dragon??? > > Regards, > > Blues > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:35:06 mdhjwh wrote: > > > > > >>The BlueSwapper wrote: > >>"I often refer to my RX-505 as the Mini-Dragon! > >But that's my personal opinion!!!"< > > >mdhjwh wrote: > >I ran an RX - 505 side by side with my Dragon for years and found them sounding almost identical (you a had to listen very hard to spot the Dragons slightly more solid > >bass line. Both had been internally rewired with Kimber cable from the same reel > >and had a few resistors etc upgraded. Both were hard wired input to output) > >I wish that I had never traded my 505 in on a Revox B770 reel to reel. This machine > >was a disaster new out of the carton . In Melbourne , Australia trying > >to find a good tech for the Revox proved impossible - they were at the time all > >earning big money in the recording and film industry. > >What drives me mad about Nak's is the fiddly little ergonomic nightmare black > >switches (Always black on a black background ) > >Are we meant to manipulate these things with pointed Japanese chopsticks? > >This now endemic problem has reared it's ugly head again on my Sony DVD remote. > >Bloody things should come with a magnifying glass! > >My solution for the dragon (purists read no further) is to paint the fiddly > >little buttons with a range of nail polish. Red - bias. Green - Dolby. > >Silver - MPX filter. etc etc. > > > >Have any subscribers to this group know of other Nakamaniacs in > >Australia. Apart from my friend the Nak technician from the hills ( a Nak > >wizard! ! ! ! - he also makes delicious amps), I know of no other Nak > >enthusiasts in Australia. > >We would both be happy to learn of others. > >Secular Objectivist Blessings, > >John H > > > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From vlado at gate.net Mon Aug 16 07:55:50 1999 From: vlado at gate.net (vlado) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 01:55:50 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] DR-10 Message-ID: <37B7A7E6.DBC50C62@gate.net> Hello all: Just joined the list :-) Sorry if this subject has been over-discussed but: I need an opinion on the DR-10 unit which is the only currently available 3 head Nak that you can buy new. I noticed they have eliminated the azimuth adjust control of the DR-1 (should have bought one when I had the chance) but otherwise it seems identical to the DR-1. Any comments from DR-10 / DR-1 owners out there ? I'd like to purchase a Nak (new preferably) before they go ahead and really pull the plug forever. Thanks. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Mon Aug 16 08:36:19 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 16:36:19 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: CR7A and RX-505 :Nakamaniacs References: <37B79393.5CDEA9D7@epix.net> Message-ID: <37B7B163.92EFD125@ozemail.com.au> Upgrading internal parts on a Nakamichi makes sense spec' wise and subjectively. Nakamichi's great strength was, and is, the quality of their transports and heads. The electronic parts were never very special (with the probable exception of Alps potentiometers in some decks) As to tweaking, I have the privilege of technical and design assistance of the highest order - hardly tweaking. If you have never heard a Nak with improved internal amps you have never heard how superb the transports and heads in these machines are. John H. PS; I have no objection to any form of tweaking if it works. Is placing rugs on the wall behind and between speakers "tweaking" - if so label me a tweak. Is isolating components from vibration tweaking? If so call me a tweak. etc etc etc John H bob wrote: > what is this stuff about upgrading internal parts on nak decks? > good, bad, indifferent. > never heard of it before.. > but then a tweak will tweak anything.. > comments, > lessons, > thanks > bob > > The BlueSwapper wrote: > > > > John H!!! > > > > I'm pleased to learn that your experiences with the RX-505 compared closely to the Dragon. That certainly substantiates my earlier statement! > > > > Unfortunate that you traded your Nak for a Revox. My sympathies. At least you retained the Dragon??? > > > > Regards, > > > > Blues > > > > --- > > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > On Sat, 14 Aug 1999 10:35:06 mdhjwh wrote: > > > > > > > > >>The BlueSwapper wrote: > > >>"I often refer to my RX-505 as the Mini-Dragon! > > >But that's my personal opinion!!!"< > > > > >mdhjwh wrote: > > >I ran an RX - 505 side by side with my Dragon for years and found them sounding almost identical (you a had to listen very hard to spot the Dragons slightly more solid > > >bass line. Both had been internally rewired with Kimber cable from the same reel > > >and had a few resistors etc upgraded. Both were hard wired input to output) > > >I wish that I had never traded my 505 in on a Revox B770 reel to reel. This machine > > >was a disaster new out of the carton . In Melbourne , Australia trying > > >to find a good tech for the Revox proved impossible - they were at the time all > > >earning big money in the recording and film industry. > > >What drives me mad about Nak's is the fiddly little ergonomic nightmare black > > >switches (Always black on a black background ) > > >Are we meant to manipulate these things with pointed Japanese chopsticks? > > >This now endemic problem has reared it's ugly head again on my Sony DVD remote. > > >Bloody things should come with a magnifying glass! > > >My solution for the dragon (purists read no further) is to paint the fiddly > > >little buttons with a range of nail polish. Red - bias. Green - Dolby. > > >Silver - MPX filter. etc etc. > > > > > >Have any subscribers to this group know of other Nakamaniacs in > > >Australia. Apart from my friend the Nak technician from the hills ( a Nak > > >wizard! ! ! ! - he also makes delicious amps), I know of no other Nak > > >enthusiasts in Australia. > > >We would both be happy to learn of others. > > >Secular Objectivist Blessings, > > >John H > > > > > > > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: bochar.vcf > bochar.vcf Type: VCard (text/x-vcard) > Encoding: 7bit > Description: Card for bob ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Aug 16 15:19:29 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 09:19:29 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: CR7A and RX-505 :Nakamaniacs References: <37B79393.5CDEA9D7@epix.net> <37B7B163.92EFD125@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <001f01bee7e9$fa26de00$c42f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: mdhjwh To: Sent: Monday, August 16, 1999 2:36 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: CR7A and RX-505 :Nakamaniacs > > Upgrading internal parts on a Nakamichi makes sense > spec' wise and subjectively. Nakamichi's great strength > was, and is, the quality of their transports and heads. > The electronic parts were never very special (with the > probable exception of Alps potentiometers in some decks) Transports ? Perhaps you're speaking about some specific decks because I can not agree 100%. After using many MR-2's for professional applications, all I can say is that their transports were Mickey Mouse. Heads, are ok: and you are right about electronics: nothing different from the other Japanese stuff, specially in the 80's. The real different and superb recorders were made during the 70's. Nakamichi was the undisputable king of the Cassette Decks. Nobody even came close in those days: in quality and price, of course. I still have running decks with 25+ years with original parts ! Those were the real Nak's. Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From howardm at thenet.co.uk Mon Aug 16 22:48:50 1999 From: howardm at thenet.co.uk (Howard Macartney) Date: Mon, 16 Aug 1999 21:48:50 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: DR-10 In-Reply-To: <37B7A7E6.DBC50C62@gate.net> Message-ID: Hello vlado On 16-Aug-99, vlado wrote: -> Hello all: -> I need an opinion on the DR-10 unit which is the only -> currently available 3 head Nak that you can buy new. -> I noticed they have eliminated the azimuth adjust -> control of the DR-1 (should have bought one when I had the chance) -> but otherwise it seems identical to the DR-1. -> Any comments from DR-10 / DR-1 owners out there ? -> I'd like to purchase a Nak (new preferably) before they -> go ahead and really pull the plug forever. Yes I have a DR-10 UK 230 volt UK model. It works well but will never be a legend. Things like channel balance and frequency response are fine. The setting for metal bias could do with its mid point setting a little higher as some metals are not in range. The deck sounds best with the mains cable cut off and changed for one of the Kimber power kords for some reason. It has a headphone socket that is not variable in volume. The output level is fixed. It does not have the sound of the old legend Nacs but is not weak and lifeless as all other cassette offerings by other manufactures. Time will tell about quality of construction etc. I had one of the first ones in the UK and now there is a 2 month waiting list for imports. -> Thanks. -> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck -> resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK -> http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html -> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= Regards -- Howard Macartney. howardm at thenet.co.uk URL- http://www.thenet.co.uk/~howardm/ DTP, Photographic, hi-fi and men's health. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From dialtone at thedoor.net Wed Aug 18 03:42:26 1999 From: dialtone at thedoor.net (Derek Reese) Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 20:42:26 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] RX 202 Message-ID: <000d01bee91a$ef2edd40$f98bf1cd@TheDoor> Rudy: Sorry I just now noticed your email. I have two machines and the one I rarely use got your message. Let me see if I can scan it, otherwise I can mail it to you snailmail. I'll let you know. Derek ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From DJBrown96 at aol.com Wed Aug 18 23:23:45 1999 From: DJBrown96 at aol.com (DJBrown96 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 17:23:45 EDT Subject: [naktalk] (no subject) Message-ID: I recently acquired a nak 680, and was wondering if anyone out there has had any experience with the Nak OMS series of CDs I am looking for a reasonably good CD unit to compliment the 680. Any suggestions? Dennis ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Wed Aug 18 23:46:28 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 15:46:28 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] Nak CD's References: Message-ID: <37BB29B4.854CBC6@emall-online.com> As a Nak tech & an audiophile, my opinion is that the best CD player they ever made was the CD Player 2(also known as the McIntosh MCD7007). The CD Player 1 was supposed to sound better, but it didn't. In my experience, they have been very reliable as well. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer DJBrown96 at aol.com wrote: > > I recently acquired a nak 680, and was wondering if anyone out there has > had > any experience with the Nak OMS series of CDs > I am looking for a reasonably good CD unit to compliment the 680. > Any suggestions? > Dennis > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From DJBrown96 at aol.com Thu Aug 19 02:36:25 1999 From: DJBrown96 at aol.com (DJBrown96 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 20:36:25 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Nak CD's Message-ID: <4138a32a.24ecab89@aol.com> Stephen, Thanks, for the information, as I don "t know a thing about Naks CD's. Are any of them rack mountable? Dennis ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Scalnajim at aol.com Thu Aug 19 06:03:59 1999 From: Scalnajim at aol.com (Scalnajim at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 00:03:59 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Cables Message-ID: I sell all of the monster cable products and in my opinion it is over priced junk! Poor quality copper and craftsmanship. Quantity over quality, try Audio Quest, MIT, Transparent Audio, Kimber Cable, etc. Monster cable is the Bose of cables. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From cjsfeng at sfu.ca Thu Aug 19 06:25:30 1999 From: cjsfeng at sfu.ca (Desmond Hidson) Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 21:25:30 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi SF-15 Message-ID: <37BB8737.33A79C0@sfu.ca> Hi Nakamaniaks .... Does anyone have a line on a pair of Nakamichi SF-15's? Des ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Aug 19 13:48:14 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 07:48:14 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Cables References: Message-ID: <001501beea38$b8d83d80$4f2f2ac4@coqui.net> Have you ever heard of LAT INternational in New York ? Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 19, 1999 12:03 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Cables > I sell all of the monster cable products and in my opinion it is over priced > junk! Poor quality copper and craftsmanship. Quantity over quality, try > Audio Quest, MIT, Transparent Audio, Kimber Cable, etc. Monster cable is the > Bose of cables. > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Stoliboy4u at aol.com Thu Aug 19 15:44:14 1999 From: Stoliboy4u at aol.com (Stoliboy4u at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 09:44:14 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Nak OMS CD decks Message-ID: <2ec6bd06.24ed642e@aol.com> Greetings all! Hope it's not too far off, but in response to the fellow questioning the OMS CD decks I figured I'd throw in my 2 cents worth. I've been really happy with my OMS 3, hasn't had any problems...one belt change in who knows how many years I've had it. I'd say you could pick up a nice one on Ebay or an E-classified. You may expect to have it at least cleaned for the best performance, so pay accordingly. The next model up from mine, the OMS 4 has 10 key track access, and a little better display if I recall correctly. Those things I've grown accustomed to with the Denon I use for taping. I wouldn't get the 1 or 2...they don't seem to be the same build and weight of the 3 and 4. Good Luck! James ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Thu Aug 19 20:44:59 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:44:59 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Cables References: Message-ID: <37BC50AB.47D2@bestweb.net> In response to the Monster Cable nay-sayer: >From Stereophile Vol. 6 No. 6--late 1983, Re: Monster Cable Interlink Reference: "Simply the best interconnects I've ever auditioned, and very likely state-of-the-art. They have a stunning degree of clarity, focus, tonal purity and resolution, managing to combine the best quality of the Apature and the JG interconnects. Nothing is added or subtracted... These are deserving of the "reference" appelation. If you desire the best there is, these are worth their outrageous cost." >From Stereophile Vol. 7 No. 2--early 1984, Recommended Components section, Category--Audio Interconnects: "Class A--Monster Cable Interlink Reference--Excellent focus, clarity, purity, and resloution..." ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From dialtone at thedoor.net Thu Aug 19 20:39:16 1999 From: dialtone at thedoor.net (Derek Reese) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 13:39:16 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Cables In-Reply-To: <37BC50AB.47D2@bestweb.net> References: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19990819133916.00930e00@thedoor.net> I hate to point out the obvious. There has been a dramatic improvements and innovations with interconnects since 1983. Perhaps at that time, Monster was the only player in town... Happy listening. At 01:44 PM 8/19/99 -0500, you wrote: >In response to the Monster Cable nay-sayer: > >From Stereophile Vol. 6 No. 6--late 1983, Re: Monster Cable Interlink >Reference: > > "Simply the best interconnects I've ever auditioned, and very >likely state-of-the-art. They have a stunning degree of clarity, focus, >tonal purity and resolution, managing to combine the best quality of the >Apature and the JG interconnects. Nothing is added or subtracted... >These are deserving of the "reference" appelation. If you desire the >best there is, these are worth their outrageous cost." > >From Stereophile Vol. 7 No. 2--early 1984, Recommended Components >section, Category--Audio Interconnects: > > "Class A--Monster Cable Interlink Reference--Excellent focus, >clarity, purity, and resloution..." >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bilner at aol.com Thu Aug 19 22:25:32 1999 From: bilner at aol.com (bilner at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:25:32 EDT Subject: [naktalk] WTB: CR-7a or DR-1 Message-ID: Thanks for any leads! Bill ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Fri Aug 20 00:29:23 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:29:23 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Cables References: <3.0.6.32.19990819133916.00930e00@thedoor.net> Message-ID: <37BC8543.752C@bestweb.net> It's also obvious that the better Naks were being produced back then, too--Remember? Newer isn't necessarily better. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From cvshanson at sprintmail.com Thu Aug 19 23:32:28 1999 From: cvshanson at sprintmail.com (Vern Hanson) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 16:32:28 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Manual for 500 Message-ID: <37BC77F0.42924D7E@sprintmail.com> Hi, I am looking for a photo copy of a 500 manual. Is there anybody that can be of some help. If anybody needs a copy of the 600 manual, I will be glad to share. Vern Hanson ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Fri Aug 20 00:40:46 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 17:40:46 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Cables References: <3.0.6.32.19990819133916.00930e00@thedoor.net> Message-ID: <37BC87EE.695F@bestweb.net> What I should have said is, Newer and VASTLY MORE EXPENSIVE isn't necesarily better. This is true of the entire hype-filled high end audio industry. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Scalnajim at aol.com Fri Aug 20 05:28:05 1999 From: Scalnajim at aol.com (Scalnajim at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:28:05 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Cables Message-ID: <6cefbef0.24ee2545@aol.com> OH, I REMEMBER, THAT'S WHEN 0-60 IN 7 SECONDS WAS FAST. AND WASN'T THAT THE YEAR THE FIRST CD PLAYER CAME OUT. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Scalnajim at aol.com Fri Aug 20 05:34:23 1999 From: Scalnajim at aol.com (Scalnajim at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:34:23 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Cables Message-ID: IF YOU REALLY WANT TO NOW HOW CHEAP MONSTER CABLE REALLY IS, JUST CUT OPEN THEIR INTERCONNECTS. MAKES A GREAT JUMPER CABLE. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mpatrick at voicenet.com Fri Aug 20 05:38:53 1999 From: mpatrick at voicenet.com (Michael P Patrick) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 03:38:53 GMT Subject: [naktalk] Cables In-Reply-To: <6cefbef0.24ee2545@aol.com> References: <6cefbef0.24ee2545@aol.com> Message-ID: <37c7cd5b.10422792@mail.voicenet.com> Wouter, Isn't this 'your cables suck' thread getting a bit old, pointless, annoying, and UNRELATED to Nak Talk?? C'mon kids, make nice or we'll all get sent home! Mike On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:28:05 EDT, Scalnajim at aol.com wrote: >OH, I REMEMBER, THAT'S WHEN 0-60 IN 7 SECONDS WAS FAST. AND WASN'T THAT THE >YEAR THE FIRST CD PLAYER CAME OUT. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Fri Aug 20 15:21:56 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:21:56 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Manual for 500 References: <37BC77F0.42924D7E@sprintmail.com> Message-ID: <37BD5674.A739901A@iconn.net> Vern: I may have a copy. I'll check, and will be glad to send it to you if I do. Give me your mailing address. Might you know of any 550 or BX-1 manuals? If so, I'd love to get copies of them. Jim Brochin Vern Hanson wrote: > Hi, > > I am looking for a photo copy of a 500 manual. Is there anybody that > can be of some help. > > If anybody needs a copy of the 600 manual, I will be glad to share. > > Vern Hanson > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Fri Aug 20 15:25:45 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 09:25:45 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Cables References: <6cefbef0.24ee2545@aol.com> <37c7cd5b.10422792@mail.voicenet.com> Message-ID: <37BD5759.BAB6D6FC@iconn.net> Hey y'all: I agree that the interconnect stuff is kinda in left field for this group. Of course I'm interested in the discussion, but if you want reviews, or if any of you want to place reviews on wires and other stuff aside from Naks, go to audioreview.com. Great site which only gets better when people post reviews. Jim Michael P Patrick wrote: > Wouter, > > Isn't this 'your cables suck' thread getting a bit old, pointless, > annoying, and UNRELATED to Nak Talk?? > > C'mon kids, make nice or we'll all get sent home! > > Mike > > On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:28:05 EDT, Scalnajim at aol.com wrote: > > >OH, I REMEMBER, THAT'S WHEN 0-60 IN 7 SECONDS WAS FAST. AND WASN'T THAT THE > >YEAR THE FIRST CD PLAYER CAME OUT. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From LDEVOE at mail.mcg.edu Fri Aug 20 16:23:42 1999 From: LDEVOE at mail.mcg.edu (Lawrence Devoe) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 10:23:42 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Cables Message-ID: Electron flow is the heart and soul of signal transduction. As in most cases, the match between components and interconnects must be determined individually. No one size fits all. There are numeour internet based vendors that allow cable comparisons. This is an ideal way to get involved without dropping excessive dollars. I have had good success for the past 10 years with The Cable Company www.fatwyre.com or 1-800-3289973 >>> "James P. Brochin" 08/20/99 09:25AM >>> Hey y'all: I agree that the interconnect stuff is kinda in left field for this group. Of course I'm interested in the discussion, but if you want reviews, or if any of you want to place reviews on wires and other stuff aside from Naks, go to audioreview.com. Great site which only gets better when people post reviews. Jim Michael P Patrick wrote: > Wouter, > > Isn't this 'your cables suck' thread getting a bit old, pointless, > annoying, and UNRELATED to Nak Talk?? > > C'mon kids, make nice or we'll all get sent home! > > Mike > > On Thu, 19 Aug 1999 23:28:05 EDT, Scalnajim at aol.com wrote: > > >OH, I REMEMBER, THAT'S WHEN 0-60 IN 7 SECONDS WAS FAST. AND WASN'T THAT THE > >YEAR THE FIRST CD PLAYER CAME OUT. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hyeh at welch.jhu.edu Fri Aug 20 17:57:17 1999 From: hyeh at welch.jhu.edu (Henry Yeh) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 11:57:17 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] RX505-Manual/Remote needed Message-ID: <37BD7ADD.7775B1CB@welchlink.welch.jhu.edu> Hi Naks, Does anyone have, or knows where, owners/sevice manual, remote (RM-15) can be obtained for a RX-505? Thanx Guys, Henry ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Fri Aug 20 18:19:31 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:19:31 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Looking for dead Nak 700 (parts!) Message-ID: <003601beeb27$ca67ba40$0f02000a@boom> Dear Nakers, I need dead Nak 700 for parts, may be only head assembly. Or even only recording head - must be in working condition. Please, if you have one - let me know, since one of my friends from Mempis will be visiting me soon, and he will be able to bring parts for me. Also I need rec/playback head assembly (head and mounting parts) for Nak 500 (350, 550). Looking forwrd for any info! Michael. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Fri Aug 20 20:23:33 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 14:23:33 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Looking for dead Nak 700 (parts!) References: <003601beeb27$ca67ba40$0f02000a@boom> Message-ID: <37BD9D24.F6500F5D@iconn.net> MVM: I think a near dead 700 is on eBay right now. I also have a 500 for which the speed control is shot. The record/playback functions seem fine. Want to make me an offer for the machine? Jim Brochin MVM wrote: > Dear Nakers, > > I need dead Nak 700 for parts, may be only head assembly. > Or even only recording head - must be in working condition. > Please, if you have one - let me know, since one of my friends > from Mempis will be visiting me soon, and he will be able to bring > parts for me. > > Also I need rec/playback head assembly (head and mounting parts) > for Nak 500 (350, 550). > > Looking forwrd for any info! > > Michael. > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ARWII at aol.com Fri Aug 20 23:33:13 1999 From: ARWII at aol.com (ARWII at aol.com) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 17:33:13 EDT Subject: [naktalk] RX505-Manual/Remote needed Message-ID: Greetings Henry, I have an original owners manual that the accompanied the deck when I purchased it a couple of years back. Let me know what form of copy you would like and we can take it from there. Ray Wheelock ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stimpson at gte.net Sat Aug 21 02:25:32 1999 From: stimpson at gte.net (stimpson at gte.net) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 19:25:32 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] RX505-Manual/Remote needed Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990821002532.006866bc@mail.gte.net> I'm not the intended receiver of this email message, but I'm in the market for (2) Nakamichi RX-505 tape decks at reasonable prices. If you have access to or know of any one wishing to part with one or two, please email me and let me know. I will purchase quickly if and only if they are in mint condition. Dennis Stimpson 972-250-4771 At 05:33 PM 8/20/99 EDT, you wrote: >Greetings Henry, >I have an original owners manual that the accompanied the deck when I >purchased it a couple of years back. Let me know what form of copy you would >like and we can take it from there. > >Ray Wheelock > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Sun Aug 22 03:00:01 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Sun, 22 Aug 1999 04:00:01 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Looking for dead Nak 700 (parts!) Message-ID: <004701beec39$aaa6c620$0f02000a@boom> Hi Jim, >MVM: > >I think a near dead 700 is on eBay right now. Unfortunately, I can not make a deal through EBay - I'm living too far, and it makes deal really complex. My friends in States will not make it for me (I even don't want ask - they have no ideas about Naks and avbout electronics as well). So, the only solution is to find it directly. >I also have a 500 for which the speed control is shot. The record/playback functions >seem fine. Want to make me an offer for the machine? As I know, you have 550 with problems. What can I propose - I'll fix yours 550, and 500 will be my. Please, let me know as one of my friends (from Memphis) will be here in the begining of September. Sincerely, Michael ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Wed Aug 25 20:11:36 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:11:36 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX vs 682ZX Message-ID: <37C431D8.56B11A@xs4all.nl> Hi Everybody, I recently bought a 68ZX after a long search. Once I dreamed of owning one and couldn't afford a new one, much later I wanted a second hand one and couldn't find one.... What I did find was a 680ZX which I loved from the start. Now that I own both units I must say that the 682ZX doesn't have that magic on me anymore. I think I like the 680ZX better!! The main 'problem' of the 682ZX are the meters. The 680ZX has those fabulously fast meters, a lot of segments and switchable between 2 modes. The 682ZX meters have less segments, are not switchable and don't have the nice peak-hold feature! Even nicer meters are the ones in the 1000ZXL, they are the bigger version of the 680ZX meters. Any thoughs about these two Naks from other Naktalkers? Wouter ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Chris_Tham at lendlease.com.au Thu Aug 26 01:53:08 1999 From: Chris_Tham at lendlease.com.au (Chris_Tham at lendlease.com.au) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 09:53:08 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX vs 682ZX Message-ID: <4A2567D9.00000DA2.00@sydns026.lendlease.com.au> I bought a 680ZX second hand last year and it is the first Nakamichi cassette deck I have ever owned. My Akai broke down due to the dust from our bathroom renovation and the hi fi shop said I was better off buying another deck than to try and fix it. I compared the second hand 680ZX against a top of the line Yamaha (costing twice as much) with HX pro, Dolby C, auto bias etc. and the 680ZX seemed to sound just as good. Well, obviously it's better than my previous deck, but surprisingly not by that much - but then for some reason my old deck seemed to be above spec for what it is (a standard two head design). I remember once taking the Akai to a free "cassette deck tune up clinic" and the technician said he was amazed when he measured it - he said it was giving flat response to 20kHz which was very unusual for a deck of that nature. The only problem I had with the Akai was cheap input/output stages - the line input clips easily and the output stage is noisy (I can detect a residual AC hum) - but fortunately the hum is not present in the recordings because when I put my old tapes into the 680ZX they sound brilliant. Unfortunately my deck is under repair at the moment as I noticed distortion in the line input stage after the unit has been on for a while - and the shop said I might has well get the transport mechanism serviced at the same time - after all it is 20 years old! Can't wait to get it back! Chris Wouter Heijke on 26/08/99 04:11:36 Please respond to naktalk at naks.com To: naktalk at naks.com cc: (bcc: Chris Tham/AU1/Lend Lease) Subject: [naktalk] 680ZX vs 682ZX Hi Everybody, I recently bought a 68ZX after a long search. Once I dreamed of owning one and couldn't afford a new one, much later I wanted a second hand one and couldn't find one.... What I did find was a 680ZX which I loved from the start. Now that I own both units I must say that the 682ZX doesn't have that magic on me anymore. I think I like the 680ZX better!! The main 'problem' of the 682ZX are the meters. The 680ZX has those fabulously fast meters, a lot of segments and switchable between 2 modes. The 682ZX meters have less segments, are not switchable and don't have the nice peak-hold feature! Even nicer meters are the ones in the 1000ZXL, they are the bigger version of the 680ZX meters. Any thoughs about these two Naks from other Naktalkers? Wouter ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: att1.eml Type: application/octet-stream Size: 2604 bytes Desc: not available URL: From kjneil at yahoo.com Thu Aug 26 02:39:51 1999 From: kjneil at yahoo.com (Keith Neil) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 17:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [naktalk] dragon for sale Message-ID: <19990826003951.5195.rocketmail@web109.yahoomail.com> I hate to sell this, but Im moving to the UK and could use the money. Im going to subsist with my fine bx-300, which I won't lose so much sleep over if it gets lost or stolen. My Dragon is in fine shape, no scratches, and has had a full service recently, with new rubber, idler, belts, and a full calibration. It is supposedly better than factory spec. It makes superb recordings, and plays back superbly also (as one would expect). I have the double box and manual as well. I might put it on Ebay, but will consider offers around the 800 range. I can furnish more info on request. Keith === ---------------------------- Keith Neil Scientific Software Designer Netgenics Inc. kneil at netgenics.com 1-888-861-9007 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jkotow at bellatlantic.net Thu Aug 26 13:20:26 1999 From: jkotow at bellatlantic.net (John Kotow) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 07:20:26 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] dragon for sale References: <19990826003951.5195.rocketmail@web109.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <37C522FA.F35A2A92@bellatlantic.net> I'm interested in adding a Dragon to my collection. Do you have a definite price? John Kotow Keith Neil wrote: > I hate to sell this, but Im moving to the UK and > could use the money. Im going to subsist with my fine bx-300, which I > won't lose so much sleep over > if it gets lost or stolen. My Dragon is in fine shape, > no scratches, and has had a full service recently, with new rubber, > idler, belts, and a full calibration. It is supposedly better than > factory spec. > > It makes superb recordings, and plays back superbly > also (as one would expect). > > I have the double box and manual as well. I might put > it on Ebay, but will consider offers around the 800 range. > > I can furnish more info on request. > > Keith > === > ---------------------------- > Keith Neil > Scientific Software Designer > Netgenics Inc. > kneil at netgenics.com > 1-888-861-9007 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From LDEVOE at mail.mcg.edu Thu Aug 26 14:46:28 1999 From: LDEVOE at mail.mcg.edu (Lawrence Devoe) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 08:46:28 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] dragon for sale Message-ID: I am very interested in your dragon at that price. How do we do this? ldevoe at mail.mcg.edu >>> Keith Neil 08/25/99 08:39PM >>> I hate to sell this, but Im moving to the UK and could use the money. Im going to subsist with my fine bx-300, which I won't lose so much sleep over if it gets lost or stolen. My Dragon is in fine shape, no scratches, and has had a full service recently, with new rubber, idler, belts, and a full calibration. It is supposedly better than factory spec. It makes superb recordings, and plays back superbly also (as one would expect). I have the double box and manual as well. I might put it on Ebay, but will consider offers around the 800 range. I can furnish more info on request. Keith === ---------------------------- Keith Neil Scientific Software Designer Netgenics Inc. kneil at netgenics.com 1-888-861-9007 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Aug 26 23:21:57 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 17:21:57 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 600 & 700 For Sale ! References: <004301bdd0f6$ac94b140$4601010a@P200.telekabel.at> Message-ID: <002d01bef009$0a4c5860$632f2ac4@coqui.net> FOR SALE: Nakamichi 600 Nakamichi 700 Good working condition and cosmetics. Guarantee not to be DOA but sales are final and as is. The 600 includes the dust cover and a manual copy. The 700 is in very good shape with some scratches on the brush aluminum. But it is nothing that will cause eye sore. Prices: VERY GOOD ! Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From countach at ptd.net Fri Aug 27 20:40:46 1999 From: countach at ptd.net (Jonathan Strack) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:40:46 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 600 & 700 For Sale ! Message-ID: <002601bef0bb$adc25fa0$ae35bacc@strack> Hello, What kind of 700 is it? Is it the Tri Tracer- also what is your price for the 700? -----Original Message----- From: Carlos To: naktalk at naks.com Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 5:50 PM Subject: [naktalk] 600 & 700 For Sale ! >FOR SALE: > >Nakamichi 600 > >Nakamichi 700 > >Good working condition and cosmetics. Guarantee not to be DOA but sales are >final and as is. > >The 600 includes the dust cover and a manual copy. The 700 is in very good >shape with some scratches on the brush aluminum. But it is nothing that will >cause eye sore. > >Prices: > >VERY GOOD ! > >Carlos > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bilner at aol.com Fri Aug 27 21:03:07 1999 From: bilner at aol.com (bilner at aol.com) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 15:03:07 EDT Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nak 3-head cassette deck with adjustable playback head azimuth AND pitch control Message-ID: <44df41a3.24f83aeb@aol.com> Was there ever such an animal? Thanks for the help, Bill ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Administrator at mail.sel.sony.com Fri Aug 27 19:35:01 1999 From: Administrator at mail.sel.sony.com (Administrator) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 12:35:01 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Message not deliverable Message-ID: <00422C06.4532@mail.sel.sony.com> Hello, What kind of 700 is it? Is it the Tri Tracer- also what is your price for the 700? -----Original Message----- From: Carlos To: naktalk at naks.com Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 5:50 PM Subject: [naktalk] 600 & 700 For Sale ! >FOR SALE: > >Nakamichi 600 > >Nakamichi 700 > >Good working condition and cosmetics. Guarantee not to be DOA but sales are >final and as is. > >The 600 includes the dust cover and a manual copy. The 700 is in very good >shape with some scratches on the brush aluminum. But it is nothing that will >cause eye sore. > >Prices: > >VERY GOOD ! > >Carlos > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== === naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== === ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Administrator at mail.sel.sony.com Fri Aug 27 21:15:02 1999 From: Administrator at mail.sel.sony.com (Administrator) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 14:15:02 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Message not deliverable Message-ID: <004230F8.4532@mail.sel.sony.com> Hello, What kind of 700 is it? Is it the Tri Tracer- also what is your price for the 700? -----Original Message----- From: Carlos To: naktalk at naks.com Date: Thursday, August 26, 1999 5:50 PM Subject: [naktalk] 600 & 700 For Sale ! >FOR SALE: > >Nakamichi 600 > >Nakamichi 700 > >Good working condition and cosmetics. Guarantee not to be DOA but sales are >final and as is. > >The 600 includes the dust cover and a manual copy. The 700 is in very good >shape with some scratches on the brush aluminum. But it is nothing that will >cause eye sore. > >Prices: > >VERY GOOD ! > >Carlos > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== === naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== === ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== === naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== === ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Sat Aug 28 00:44:14 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 16:44:14 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nak 3-head cassette deck with adjustable playback head azimuthAND pitch control References: <44df41a3.24f83aeb@aol.com> Message-ID: <37C714BD.6901F5A6@emall-online.com> No, there has never been such an animal. The only suggestion I can make is that I can add pitch control to a CR-7. Any other deck would not give you a positive reference azimuth center point(with auto-reset, nevertheless). The CR-7 uses the same transport as the BX-300, so that it's pitch control circuit, w/record mode auto-bypass, could be cloned. I would have to charge $150-175 for such a mod job. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer bilner at aol.com wrote: > > Was there ever such an animal? > > Thanks for the help, > > Bill > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Sat Aug 28 23:35:25 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:35:25 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nak 3-head cassette deck with adjustable playback head azimuthAND pitch control References: <44df41a3.24f83aeb@aol.com> <37C714BD.6901F5A6@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <00c601bef19d$3e1e86a0$4c3a5e18@stny.rr.com> Now *that* would be a cool deck. If I hadn't traded my CR-7 for a Dragon this very morning, I'd jump on the chance for such a mod. DD ----- Original Message ----- From: Stephen Sank2 To: ; Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] WTB: Nak 3-head cassette deck with adjustable playback head azimuthAND pitch control > No, there has never been such an animal. The only suggestion I can make > is that I can add pitch control to a CR-7. Any other deck would not > give you a positive reference azimuth center point(with auto-reset, > nevertheless). The CR-7 uses the same transport as the BX-300, so that > it's pitch control circuit, w/record mode auto-bypass, could be cloned. > I would have to charge $150-175 for such a mod job. > > Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain > Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard > N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax > / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > bilner at aol.com wrote: > > > > Was there ever such an animal? > > > > Thanks for the help, > > > > Bill > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bochar at epix.net Sun Aug 29 00:55:50 1999 From: bochar at epix.net (bob) Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 18:55:50 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] cr-1A Message-ID: <37C868F6.35D94AEB@epix.net> Is the CR-1A any better than the 480Z? By its looks, only a one pinch roller transport, it doesn't look like much. thanks, bob : > ) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From wheijke at xs4all.nl Sun Aug 29 12:11:43 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:11:43 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] cr-1A References: <37C868F6.35D94AEB@epix.net> Message-ID: <37C9075F.9BDF003E@xs4all.nl> 480Z This IS the better deck, period! Wouter bob wrote: > Is the CR-1A any better than the 480Z? > By its looks, only a one pinch roller transport, it doesn't look like > much. > thanks, > bob > : > ) ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Sun Aug 29 16:18:46 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:18:46 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Question - 700 II and 700 ZXE Message-ID: <006701bef229$69704960$26c8c1c1@dialup2.terranet> Dear Nakers, I have a question - how good is 700 II and how much better is 700 ZXE. What is the difference in between 700 and 700 II? Is transport different or not? Dolby B circuit - discretes or ICs? If it has a new transport - is it the same, as in 680 and similar models? Same or different heads? And about 700 ZXE - what price will be reasonable for such a beauty? Looking forward to hear from all, especially - from people who have been inside of those monsters :)) Michael Kiev, Ukraine ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From garcia at tusa.org Sun Aug 29 21:07:39 1999 From: garcia at tusa.org (Bill Roehl) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:07:39 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 In-Reply-To: <006701bef229$69704960$26c8c1c1@dialup2.terranet> Message-ID: I have recently purchased a BX-300, and I am in need of another deck... I was thinking about an LX-3. Will they work well together, and will they make decent sounding recordings? I know that BX-300's are great decks, but I haven't read much on the LX-3. Any ideas? - Bill - email - garcia at tusa.org http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org icq - 11398156 I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up with her shit. * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Sun Aug 29 22:51:12 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:51:12 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] WTB: Nak 3-head cassette deck with adjustable playback head azimuthAND pitch control References: <44df41a3.24f83aeb@aol.com> <37C714BD.6901F5A6@emall-online.com> <00c601bef19d$3e1e86a0$4c3a5e18@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: <37C99D40.A3622634@emall-online.com> Well, gee, David, if you had ever mentioned wanting pitch control... Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer David Drucker wrote: > > Now *that* would be a cool deck. If I hadn't traded my CR-7 for a Dragon > this very morning, I'd jump on the chance for such a mod. > DD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Sank2 > To: ; > Sent: Friday, August 27, 1999 6:44 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] WTB: Nak 3-head cassette deck with adjustable > playback head azimuthAND pitch control > > > No, there has never been such an animal. The only suggestion I can make > > is that I can add pitch control to a CR-7. Any other deck would not > > give you a positive reference azimuth center point(with auto-reset, > > nevertheless). The CR-7 uses the same transport as the BX-300, so that > > it's pitch control circuit, w/record mode auto-bypass, could be cloned. > > I would have to charge $150-175 for such a mod job. > > > > Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain > > Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard > > N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax > > / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > > > bilner at aol.com wrote: > > > > > > Was there ever such an animal? > > > > > > Thanks for the help, > > > > > > Bill > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Sun Aug 29 22:54:16 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:54:16 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] cr-1A References: <37C868F6.35D94AEB@epix.net> Message-ID: <37C99DF8.EAFBAF16@emall-online.com> The CR-1 may have edge in electronic reliability(480Z had a lot of "kludge" wiring), the 480Z is definitely superior mechanically & in it's resistance to head wear. Exactly the same transport as the 700ZXL, minus the crystal permalloy discrete heads. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer bob wrote: > > Is the CR-1A any better than the 480Z? > By its looks, only a one pinch roller transport, it doesn't look like > much. > thanks, > bob > : > ) ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer Bill Roehl wrote: > > I have recently purchased a BX-300, and I am in need of another > deck... I was thinking about an LX-3. Will they work well together, and > will they make decent sounding recordings? I know that BX-300's are great > decks, but I haven't read much on the LX-3. Any ideas? > > - Bill - > > email - garcia at tusa.org > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > icq - 11398156 > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up > with her shit. > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From garcia at tusa.org Sun Aug 29 23:03:11 1999 From: garcia at tusa.org (Bill Roehl) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:03:11 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 In-Reply-To: <37C99F22.B7D40A36@emall-online.com> Message-ID: which should I play on and which should I use to record? - Bill - email - garcia at tusa.org http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org icq - 11398156 I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up with her shit. * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Sun Aug 29 23:31:31 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:31:31 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 References: Message-ID: <37C9A6B2.C7E1BB40@xs4all.nl> Play on the LX-3 and record on the BX300. I use my LX-3 (or 480) to play tapes recorded on non-Naks. Since I don't record on it I adjust the PB/REC head of the LX-3 to match azimuth of the recorder that made the tape. This is something like a poor man's Dragon technique I guess! Wouter Bill Roehl wrote: > which should I play on and which should I use to record? > > - Bill - > > email - garcia at tusa.org > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > icq - 11398156 > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up > with her shit. > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From garcia at tusa.org Sun Aug 29 23:32:57 1999 From: garcia at tusa.org (Bill Roehl) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:32:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 In-Reply-To: <37C9A6B2.C7E1BB40@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: > Play on the LX-3 and record on the BX300. I use my LX-3 (or 480) to > play tapes recorded on non-Naks. Since I don't record on it I adjust > the PB/REC head of the LX-3 to match azimuth of the recorder that made > the tape. This is something like a poor man's Dragon technique I > guess! so if I have tapes made on BX-300's, I play em on the BX and record on the LX? - Bill - email - garcia at tusa.org http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org icq - 11398156 I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up with her shit. * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Mon Aug 30 01:59:06 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:59:06 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] cr-1A References: <37C868F6.35D94AEB@epix.net> Message-ID: <37C9C94A.795D@bestweb.net> Bob, The 480Z has the older Nak transport and is therefore probably superior to the CR-1A, but the latter isn't any slouch, either. A few years ago, I gave my old CR-1A to my son, who just sent me some recordings he made on it using some cheap Sony Normal tapes. I played them back on my CR-7A and was startled by how good they sounded. I barely had to adjust the playback head azimuth. I swear they exhibited near-CD sound quality. Only the faint Dolby B hiss betrayed their true origin. It made me kind of regret I'd given away the little jewel. This experience seemd to back up the Nak claim that a Nak two-head unit will often outperform three-head units produced by other manufacturers. It also shows how excellent even entry-level Nak units are: This baby made Normal tape sound like Metal tape. I guess a Nak is a Nak is a Nak.... Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bochar at epix.net Mon Aug 30 01:56:25 1999 From: bochar at epix.net (bob) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:56:25 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 References: Message-ID: <37C9C8A9.B7C4ACFB@epix.net> The LX-3 is one of the best sounding decks ever made by Nakamichi. Meanwhile, I have a mint 480Z for sale or trade you may reach me during the week at EPCN at poconorecord.com above address on weekends... thanks, bob PS: Had LX-3 for years...now have a CR-7 and the 480Z, of course. Bill Roehl wrote: > > I have recently purchased a BX-300, and I am in need of another > deck... I was thinking about an LX-3. Will they work well together, and > will they make decent sounding recordings? I know that BX-300's are great > decks, but I haven't read much on the LX-3. Any ideas? > > - Bill - > > email - garcia at tusa.org > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > icq - 11398156 > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up > with her shit. > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de Mon Aug 30 08:08:24 1999 From: Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de (Fendt Klaus) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:08:24 +0200 Subject: AW: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 Message-ID: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F19F@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Well Bill, the LX-3 is a very fine and good looking deck made by Nakamichi (of course I like the appearance of these silver stars like the 700's). You mentioned you'd like to get a second Nak: It would be an alternative to look at the LX-5 (I'm not sure whether this deck was sold outside Europe but I think so). You'll get the same great looking deck including the famous Nak discrete heads which the LX-3 is not equipped with. The price in my opinion should be a little bit higher than the LX-3: Here in Germany a new LX-3 cost about 600 to 700 U$ the LX-5 was about 1000 U$ (of course these prices had to be paid about 20 years ago) So long Klaus > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Bill Roehl [SMTP:garcia at tusa.org] > Gesendet am: Sonntag, 29. August 1999 21:08 > An: naktalk at naks.com > Betreff: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 > > > I have recently purchased a BX-300, and I am in need of another > deck... I was thinking about an LX-3. Will they work well together, and > will they make decent sounding recordings? I know that BX-300's are great > decks, but I haven't read much on the LX-3. Any ideas? > > - Bill - > > email - garcia at tusa.org > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > icq - 11398156 > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting > up > with her shit. > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Mon Aug 30 09:15:48 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:15:48 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 References: <37C99F22.B7D40A36@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <37CA2FA4.DE65E4ED@ozemail.com.au> Which reminds me that the heads in my Dragon have had over 11 years of abuse and still sound miraculously musical with a deep, solid and tuneful bottom end. In fact I suspect they sound better now than when new. Why should this be so? Maybe I just imagine it sounding better as the associated equipment has kept getting better-only to reveal what the Dragon has been doing all along. My Dragon has however has had its innards fiddled with bringing another uncontrolled variable into the equation . Who gives a rats arse any way - I.m finding it a reliable archiving medium for a collection of LP's until the digital wars settle down. Metal tapes made 11 years ago with a Koetsu Rosewood Cartridge Sota - Blah Blah Blah still send shivers down my spine. No loss of treble that I'm can notice. As to reliability - my Dragon has worked its arse off, had only a few parts replaced (C-Mos logic chip didn't like humidity) it just keeps rolling on and on . My technician mate tells me it must almost be time to replace the entire drive mechanism ($1500 Aust). As I cannot detect any anything like wow -flutter or other gremlins yet I'll be putting of any major surgery until something gives. I still hate the fiddly f----n little black buttons - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - In Australia, we read rumors that Nakamichi will be bringing out two new analogue cassette decks before 2000. Can it be true ? ? ? ?Some one please tell me it is true !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hail Fellow Nacamaniacs JOHN H. Greetings O Fellow Nacamaniacs John H. > The LX-3 is an excellent & reliable deck & would be very suitable for > use with the BX-300. The only shortcoming is that the LX-3 is a > two-head, and therefore has a Sendust rec/pb head, rather than the > crystal permalloy discrete rec & pb heads. This simply means that your > below 25Hz low freq performance will not be as good on the LX-3. > > Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain > Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard > N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax > / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer > > Bill Roehl wrote: > > > > I have recently purchased a BX-300, and I am in need of another > > deck... I was thinking about an LX-3. Will they work well together, and > > will they make decent sounding recordings? I know that BX-300's are great > > decks, but I haven't read much on the LX-3. Any ideas? > > > > - Bill - > > > > email - garcia at tusa.org > > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > > icq - 11398156 > > > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up > > with her shit. > > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From smithb at mail.pjsnet.com Mon Aug 30 20:44:30 1999 From: smithb at mail.pjsnet.com (Brice T. Smith) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:44:30 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] LX-3; Dragon Problem References: <37C9C8A9.B7C4ACFB@epix.net> Message-ID: <006301bef31a$407289a0$1a06b2c3@default> I have to agree on the LX3 . . . I borrowed one from a friend in the late 80's, and it blew away my Harmon-Kardon 481 (three-head deck made by two-headed engineers--it stinks, at least as far as reliablility is concerned. Had it back to the factory twice, couldn't save it, so it became a playback only deck). Anyway, the two tapes I made on this LX3 sounded as good/better than anything I played on any deck to follow. Killer machine. I have bought a Dragon, and find it to be a wonderful machine, everything that my five months on NakTalk have made it out to be. However, (there's always a However, huh), it has a problem. When it has been idling or running for an hour or so, it won't go into the Play mode in either direction. I hear the servo pickup, the directional indicator come on, then it just drops out to the Stop mode. Same thing in the Record mode. Someone suggested that the tape sensor was possibly dusty, so I blew it out with canned air, no result, as predicted. Is there an easy fix? or is it time for a trip to Champlain Valley for a major tuneup?? I enjoy all the stuff on this net, except the Jousting. And that one comment about Germans building the "best" cars. I drive on the AutoBahn every weekend, and they're no match for my Detroit "iron" (mostly plastic, fiberglass and aluminum--yes, the Corvette that Chevy FINALLY got right!! I'm not going to bring it back to the US because I am certain that I would be arrested within the first week. Seductive speed . . . forgive me, I digress). NAKS FOREVER, Brice ----- Original Message ----- From: bob To: Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 1:56 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 > > The LX-3 is one of the best sounding decks ever made by Nakamichi. > Meanwhile, I have a mint 480Z for sale or trade > you may reach me during the week at > EPCN at poconorecord.com > above address on weekends... > thanks, > bob > PS: > Had LX-3 for years...now have a CR-7 > and the 480Z, of course. > > > Bill Roehl wrote: > > > > I have recently purchased a BX-300, and I am in need of another > > deck... I was thinking about an LX-3. Will they work well together, and > > will they make decent sounding recordings? I know that BX-300's are great > > decks, but I haven't read much on the LX-3. Any ideas? > > > > - Bill - > > > > email - garcia at tusa.org > > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > > icq - 11398156 > > > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up > > with her shit. > > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Mon Aug 30 22:35:06 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:35:06 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 References: Message-ID: <37CAEAF9.C6E98C1C@xs4all.nl> I would record on the BX300, 3 heads is better for recording! If you can get one, get a LX-5, it is the better deck, also for recording! Wouter Bill Roehl wrote: > > Play on the LX-3 and record on the BX300. I use my LX-3 (or 480) to > > play tapes recorded on non-Naks. Since I don't record on it I adjust > > the PB/REC head of the LX-3 to match azimuth of the recorder that made > > the tape. This is something like a poor man's Dragon technique I > > guess! > > so if I have tapes made on BX-300's, I play em on the BX and > record on the LX? > > - Bill - > > email - garcia at tusa.org > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > icq - 11398156 > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up > with her shit. > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Mon Aug 30 23:33:27 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 15:33:27 -0600 Subject: [naktalk] LX-3; Dragon Problem References: <37C9C8A9.B7C4ACFB@epix.net> <006301bef31a$407289a0$1a06b2c3@default> Message-ID: <37CAF8A7.7FA1B48C@emall-online.com> Your Dragon sounds like it simply needs a new control(mechanism mode) drive belt. If it is second hand, it should definitely also be checked out for a rather common mistake that was made on a year or two's production of Dragon's, in the digital capstan servo circuit. If uncorrected, the deck will eventually cause it to start munching tapes(hmmm, a TDK 1979, I think. Very tasty.), especially at the beginning of reverse play. Should also be checked for other wear items, of course. Cost would be $90-120 + shipping, unless something serious is detected, which is fairly unlikely. Website: http://emall-online.com/cvspeakerco/default.htm / Champlain Valley Speaker Company / Stephen Sank, owner / 7611 Menaul Boulevard N.E. / Albuquerque, New Mexico [ 87110 ] / 505-296-8795 phone/fax / Authorised Nakamichi/McIntosh Servicer "Brice T. Smith" wrote: > > I have to agree on the LX3 . . . I borrowed one from a friend in the late > 80's, and it blew away my Harmon-Kardon 481 (three-head deck made by > two-headed engineers--it stinks, at least as far as reliablility is > concerned. Had it back to the factory twice, couldn't save it, so it became > a playback only deck). > Anyway, the two tapes I made on this LX3 sounded as good/better than > anything I played on any deck to follow. Killer machine. > > I have bought a Dragon, and find it to be a wonderful machine, everything > that my five months on NakTalk have made it out to be. However, (there's > always a However, huh), it has a problem. When it has been idling or > running for an hour or so, it won't go into the Play mode in either > direction. I hear the servo pickup, the directional indicator come on, then > it just drops out to the Stop mode. Same thing in the Record mode. Someone > suggested that the tape sensor was possibly dusty, so I blew it out with > canned air, no result, as predicted. Is there an easy fix? or is it time > for a trip to Champlain Valley for a major tuneup?? > > I enjoy all the stuff on this net, except the Jousting. And that one > comment about Germans building the "best" cars. I drive on the AutoBahn > every weekend, and they're no match for my Detroit "iron" (mostly plastic, > fiberglass and aluminum--yes, the Corvette that Chevy FINALLY got right!! > I'm not going to bring it back to the US because I am certain that I would > be arrested within the first week. Seductive speed . . . forgive me, I > digress). > NAKS FOREVER, > Brice > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bob > To: > Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 1:56 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 > > > > > The LX-3 is one of the best sounding decks ever made by Nakamichi. > > Meanwhile, I have a mint 480Z for sale or trade > > you may reach me during the week at > > EPCN at poconorecord.com > > above address on weekends... > > thanks, > > bob > > PS: > > Had LX-3 for years...now have a CR-7 > > and the 480Z, of course. > > > > > > Bill Roehl wrote: > > > > > > I have recently purchased a BX-300, and I am in need of another > > > deck... I was thinking about an LX-3. Will they work well together, > and > > > will they make decent sounding recordings? I know that BX-300's are > great > > > decks, but I haven't read much on the LX-3. Any ideas? > > > > > > - Bill - > > > > > > email - garcia at tusa.org > > > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > > > icq - 11398156 > > > > > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > > > > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of > putting up > > > with her shit. > > > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Aug 31 01:16:20 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:16:20 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] For Sale 600 & 700 Message-ID: <001d01bef33d$ae735060$a12f2ac4@coqui.net> Nakamichi's for sale: 600 w/dust cover 700 Good shape and working. Good prices. Fair offers wouldn't be rejected. Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Tue Aug 31 08:00:17 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:00:17 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] LX-3; Dragon Problem References: <37C9C8A9.B7C4ACFB@epix.net> <006301bef31a$407289a0$1a06b2c3@default> Message-ID: <000901bef376$1a71aae0$161032d4@infosysbank.com> Hi, Brice, greetings from a fellow Nakfanatic. I gather from your msg that you are in Germany - where did you buy your Dragon from ? If you found it in Germany, could you give me a hint as to where to look - I'm currently in Bulgaria and purchases from the US are not viable. BTW, there's a very good Nak service in Essen - the phone is 0201 842020, ask for Mr. Butler (the "u" pronounced the German way - like in "Gut") he speaks very good English and you can discuss your problem with him. Enjoy the music ! George Valkov ----- Original Message ----- From: Brice T. Smith To: Sent: 30 Àâãóñò 1999 ã. 21:44 Subject: [naktalk] LX-3; Dragon Problem > I have to agree on the LX3 . . . I borrowed one from a friend in the late > 80's, and it blew away my Harmon-Kardon 481 (three-head deck made by > two-headed engineers--it stinks, at least as far as reliablility is > concerned. Had it back to the factory twice, couldn't save it, so it became > a playback only deck). > Anyway, the two tapes I made on this LX3 sounded as good/better than > anything I played on any deck to follow. Killer machine. > > I have bought a Dragon, and find it to be a wonderful machine, everything > that my five months on NakTalk have made it out to be. However, (there's > always a However, huh), it has a problem. When it has been idling or > running for an hour or so, it won't go into the Play mode in either > direction. I hear the servo pickup, the directional indicator come on, then > it just drops out to the Stop mode. Same thing in the Record mode. Someone > suggested that the tape sensor was possibly dusty, so I blew it out with > canned air, no result, as predicted. Is there an easy fix? or is it time > for a trip to Champlain Valley for a major tuneup?? > > I enjoy all the stuff on this net, except the Jousting. And that one > comment about Germans building the "best" cars. I drive on the AutoBahn > every weekend, and they're no match for my Detroit "iron" (mostly plastic, > fiberglass and aluminum--yes, the Corvette that Chevy FINALLY got right!! > I'm not going to bring it back to the US because I am certain that I would > be arrested within the first week. Seductive speed . . . forgive me, I > digress). > NAKS FOREVER, > Brice > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: bob > To: > Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 1:56 AM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 > > > > > > The LX-3 is one of the best sounding decks ever made by Nakamichi. > > Meanwhile, I have a mint 480Z for sale or trade > > you may reach me during the week at > > EPCN at poconorecord.com > > above address on weekends... > > thanks, > > bob > > PS: > > Had LX-3 for years...now have a CR-7 > > and the 480Z, of course. > > > > > > Bill Roehl wrote: > > > > > > I have recently purchased a BX-300, and I am in need of another > > > deck... I was thinking about an LX-3. Will they work well together, > and > > > will they make decent sounding recordings? I know that BX-300's are > great > > > decks, but I haven't read much on the LX-3. Any ideas? > > > > > > - Bill - > > > > > > email - garcia at tusa.org > > > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > > > icq - 11398156 > > > > > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > > > > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of > putting up > > > with her shit. > > > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From brianwinans at hotmail.com Tue Aug 31 08:31:23 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:31:23 PDT Subject: AW: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 Message-ID: <19990831063125.32546.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey Bill, In my 20+ plus years of having Nak decks, any Nak hooked up to another Nak, will give you an orgasmic rush of musical bliss regardless of model number. Nak decks outperform any other deck on the market. I don't care if you have a Revox,or a Teac (which our local radio staion uses, KMOD, you know, Roy D. Mercer), or any other "high quality" brand). You cannot beat a Nak, end of discussion. I do have a question though. I have a BX-300, which I have owned for 10+ years(I bought it brand new), and it needs a gear upgrade. I have a very good friend that repairs Nak decks, and he says that it is not a good idea to have the gear upgrade done to the BX series, because it introduces extra noise to the recordings. I trust his opinion, but, like going to the doctor I need a second opinion. Please help me out. Thanks Brian P.S. I am also a Nakamichi Grateful Dead tape trader, if there are any other Nak tape traders out there, please E-Mail me. brianwinans at hotmail.com >From: Fendt Klaus >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: "'naktalk at naks.com'" >Subject: AW: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:08:24 +0200 > >Well Bill, > >the LX-3 is a very fine and good looking deck made by Nakamichi (of course >I >like the appearance of these silver stars like the 700's). You mentioned >you'd like to get a second Nak: It would be an alternative to look at the >LX-5 (I'm not sure whether this deck was sold outside Europe but I think >so). You'll get the same great looking deck including the famous Nak >discrete heads which the LX-3 is not equipped with. The price in my opinion >should be a little bit higher than the LX-3: Here in Germany a new LX-3 >cost >about 600 to 700 U$ the LX-5 was about 1000 U$ (of course these prices had >to be paid about 20 years ago) > > So long > > Klaus > > > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: Bill Roehl [SMTP:garcia at tusa.org] > > Gesendet am: Sonntag, 29. August 1999 21:08 > > An: naktalk at naks.com > > Betreff: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 > > > > > > I have recently purchased a BX-300, and I am in need of another > > deck... I was thinking about an LX-3. Will they work well together, >and > > will they make decent sounding recordings? I know that BX-300's are >great > > decks, but I haven't read much on the LX-3. Any ideas? > > > > - Bill - > > > > email - garcia at tusa.org > > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > > icq - 11398156 > > > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of >putting > > up > > with her shit. > > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========= >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bilner at aol.com Tue Aug 31 08:43:36 1999 From: bilner at aol.com (bilner at aol.com) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 02:43:36 EDT Subject: [naktalk] WTD: Nakamichi CR-7a cassette deck Message-ID: <7a2a8d3a.24fcd398@aol.com> Thanks for any help tracking down one-a these pups! Bill Wilner ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From brianwinans at hotmail.com Tue Aug 31 08:54:21 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:54:21 PDT Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 Message-ID: <19990831065422.99977.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey John, I can relate, I have a BX-300 that has had 10+ years of total abuse(My name is Friday, I am a tape trader). But seriously folks, My BX-300 is just now starting to show signs of head wear, and I am going to put it in the shop (for the 2nd time in it's life). It is just now having a problem with the idler, and I need to know if I should have the gear update done to it, (but that is another bulletin.) I just thought I would let you know my experience. Peace, Brian >From: mdhjwh >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:15:48 +1000 > >Which reminds me that the heads in my Dragon have had >over 11 years of abuse and still sound miraculously musical >with a deep, solid and tuneful bottom end. >In fact I suspect they sound better now than when new. >Why should this be so? Maybe I just imagine it sounding better >as the associated equipment has kept getting better-only to >reveal what the Dragon has been doing all along. > >My Dragon has however has had its innards fiddled with bringing >another uncontrolled variable into the equation . >Who gives a rats arse any way - I.m finding it a reliable archiving >medium for a collection of LP's until the digital wars settle down. > >Metal tapes made 11 years ago with a Koetsu Rosewood Cartridge >Sota - Blah Blah Blah >still send shivers down my spine. No loss of treble that I'm can >notice. > >As to reliability - my Dragon has worked its arse off, had only a few >parts replaced (C-Mos logic chip didn't like humidity) it just keeps >rolling on and on . > >My technician mate tells me it must almost be time to replace the >entire drive mechanism ($1500 Aust). >As I cannot detect any anything like wow -flutter or other gremlins >yet I'll be putting of any major surgery until something gives. >I still hate the fiddly f----n little black buttons - - - - - - - - - - - > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >In Australia, we read rumors that Nakamichi will be bringing out >two new analogue cassette decks before 2000. >Can it be true ? ? ? ?Some one please tell me it is true !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >Hail Fellow Nacamaniacs > >JOHN H. > > > > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From brianwinans at hotmail.com Tue Aug 31 08:58:56 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:58:56 PDT Subject: [naktalk] LX-3; Dragon Problem Message-ID: <19990831065901.63478.qmail@hotmail.com> Brice, What year? Vettes RULE, thanks for the entertaining message. Brian >From: "Brice T. Smith" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: >Subject: [naktalk] LX-3; Dragon Problem >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:44:30 +0200 > >I have to agree on the LX3 . . . I borrowed one from a friend in the late >80's, and it blew away my Harmon-Kardon 481 (three-head deck made by >two-headed engineers--it stinks, at least as far as reliablility is >concerned. Had it back to the factory twice, couldn't save it, so it >became >a playback only deck). >Anyway, the two tapes I made on this LX3 sounded as good/better than >anything I played on any deck to follow. Killer machine. > >I have bought a Dragon, and find it to be a wonderful machine, everything >that my five months on NakTalk have made it out to be. However, (there's >always a However, huh), it has a problem. When it has been idling or >running for an hour or so, it won't go into the Play mode in either >direction. I hear the servo pickup, the directional indicator come on, >then >it just drops out to the Stop mode. Same thing in the Record mode. >Someone >suggested that the tape sensor was possibly dusty, so I blew it out with >canned air, no result, as predicted. Is there an easy fix? or is it time >for a trip to Champlain Valley for a major tuneup?? > >I enjoy all the stuff on this net, except the Jousting. And that one >comment about Germans building the "best" cars. I drive on the AutoBahn >every weekend, and they're no match for my Detroit "iron" (mostly plastic, >fiberglass and aluminum--yes, the Corvette that Chevy FINALLY got right!! >I'm not going to bring it back to the US because I am certain that I would >be arrested within the first week. Seductive speed . . . forgive me, I >digress). >NAKS FOREVER, >Brice > >----- Original Message ----- >From: bob >To: >Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 1:56 AM >Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 > > > > > > The LX-3 is one of the best sounding decks ever made by Nakamichi. > > Meanwhile, I have a mint 480Z for sale or trade > > you may reach me during the week at > > EPCN at poconorecord.com > > above address on weekends... > > thanks, > > bob > > PS: > > Had LX-3 for years...now have a CR-7 > > and the 480Z, of course. > > > > > > Bill Roehl wrote: > > > > > > I have recently purchased a BX-300, and I am in need of >another > > > deck... I was thinking about an LX-3. Will they work well together, >and > > > will they make decent sounding recordings? I know that BX-300's are >great > > > decks, but I haven't read much on the LX-3. Any ideas? > > > > > > - Bill - > > > > > > email - garcia at tusa.org > > > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > > > icq - 11398156 > > > > > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > > > > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of >putting up > > > with her shit. > > > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK >http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------== >======= > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From smithb at mail.pjsnet.com Tue Aug 31 12:29:20 1999 From: smithb at mail.pjsnet.com (Brice T. Smith) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:29:20 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] LX-3; Dragon Problem References: <37C9C8A9.B7C4ACFB@epix.net> <006301bef31a$407289a0$1a06b2c3@default> <000901bef376$1a71aae0$161032d4@infosysbank.com> Message-ID: <004601bef39d$8b970d60$a107b2c3@default> Hi George, I'm in Heidelberg, but bought my Dragon from the US. It's 110v and runs off a 75watt transformer that I keep a LONG way from the audio cables, no detectable noise makes it to the output. I have had others listen on my SENNHEISER's (now, there is an Awesome German product!!), and they cannot tell tape from CD, nor can they hear any noise. Thanks so much for the Essen connection. Please contact me at smithb at pjsnet.com, and we will work on fixing the Lack O' Dragon problem (or any other Nak Lak you may have). Brice ----- Original Message ----- From: stemsof To: Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] LX-3; Dragon Problem > Hi, Brice, greetings from a fellow Nakfanatic. I gather from your msg that > you are in Germany - where did you buy your Dragon from ? If you found it in > Germany, could you give me a hint as to where to look - I'm currently in > Bulgaria and purchases from the US are not viable. BTW, there's a very good > Nak service in Essen - the phone is 0201 842020, ask for Mr. Butler (the "u" > pronounced the German way - like in "Gut") he speaks very good English and > you can discuss your problem with him. > > Enjoy the music ! > > George Valkov > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brice T. Smith > To: > Sent: 30 Àâãóñò 1999 ã. 21:44 > Subject: [naktalk] LX-3; Dragon Problem > > > > I have to agree on the LX3 . . . I borrowed one from a friend in the late > > 80's, and it blew away my Harmon-Kardon 481 (three-head deck made by > > two-headed engineers--it stinks, at least as far as reliablility is > > concerned. Had it back to the factory twice, couldn't save it, so it > became > > a playback only deck). > > Anyway, the two tapes I made on this LX3 sounded as good/better than > > anything I played on any deck to follow. Killer machine. > > > > I have bought a Dragon, and find it to be a wonderful machine, everything > > that my five months on NakTalk have made it out to be. However, (there's > > always a However, huh), it has a problem. When it has been idling or > > running for an hour or so, it won't go into the Play mode in either > > direction. I hear the servo pickup, the directional indicator come on, > then > > it just drops out to the Stop mode. Same thing in the Record mode. > Someone > > suggested that the tape sensor was possibly dusty, so I blew it out with > > canned air, no result, as predicted. Is there an easy fix? or is it time > > for a trip to Champlain Valley for a major tuneup?? > > > > I enjoy all the stuff on this net, except the Jousting. And that one > > comment about Germans building the "best" cars. I drive on the AutoBahn > > every weekend, and they're no match for my Detroit "iron" (mostly > plastic, > > fiberglass and aluminum--yes, the Corvette that Chevy FINALLY got right!! > > I'm not going to bring it back to the US because I am certain that I would > > be arrested within the first week. Seductive speed . . . forgive me, I > > digress). > > NAKS FOREVER, > > Brice > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: bob > > To: > > Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 1:56 AM > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 > > > > > > > > > > The LX-3 is one of the best sounding decks ever made by Nakamichi. > > > Meanwhile, I have a mint 480Z for sale or trade > > > you may reach me during the week at > > > EPCN at poconorecord.com > > > above address on weekends... > > > thanks, > > > bob > > > PS: > > > Had LX-3 for years...now have a CR-7 > > > and the 480Z, of course. > > > > > > > > > Bill Roehl wrote: > > > > > > > > I have recently purchased a BX-300, and I am in need of > another > > > > deck... I was thinking about an LX-3. Will they work well together, > > and > > > > will they make decent sounding recordings? I know that BX-300's are > > great > > > > decks, but I haven't read much on the LX-3. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > - Bill - > > > > > > > > email - garcia at tusa.org > > > > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > > > > icq - 11398156 > > > > > > > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > > > > > > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of > > putting up > > > > with her shit. > > > > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. > > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From smithb at mail.pjsnet.com Tue Aug 31 12:42:21 1999 From: smithb at mail.pjsnet.com (Brice T. Smith) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:42:21 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] LX-3; Dragon Problem References: <19990831065901.63478.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <004701bef39d$8c7140c0$a107b2c3@default> Hi Brian, I was never much of a Vette Fan before the C-5 . . . I have driven a '59, a '77, and a '83, and they were orders of magnitude beneath the 1998 that I managed to get ahold of. Not only is it beautiful, it is everything the car mags said it was . . . and more. It is so hard to say a little without saying alot. As this is the Nak site, I'll leave it at that. Thanks! Brice ----- Original Message ----- From: brian winans To: Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] LX-3; Dragon Problem > Brice, > What year? Vettes RULE, thanks for the entertaining message. > Brian > > > >From: "Brice T. Smith" > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > >To: > >Subject: [naktalk] LX-3; Dragon Problem > >Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:44:30 +0200 > > > >I have to agree on the LX3 . . . I borrowed one from a friend in the late > >80's, and it blew away my Harmon-Kardon 481 (three-head deck made by > >two-headed engineers--it stinks, at least as far as reliablility is > >concerned. Had it back to the factory twice, couldn't save it, so it > >became > >a playback only deck). > >Anyway, the two tapes I made on this LX3 sounded as good/better than > >anything I played on any deck to follow. Killer machine. > > > >I have bought a Dragon, and find it to be a wonderful machine, everything > >that my five months on NakTalk have made it out to be. However, (there's > >always a However, huh), it has a problem. When it has been idling or > >running for an hour or so, it won't go into the Play mode in either > >direction. I hear the servo pickup, the directional indicator come on, > >then > >it just drops out to the Stop mode. Same thing in the Record mode. > >Someone > >suggested that the tape sensor was possibly dusty, so I blew it out with > >canned air, no result, as predicted. Is there an easy fix? or is it time > >for a trip to Champlain Valley for a major tuneup?? > > > >I enjoy all the stuff on this net, except the Jousting. And that one > >comment about Germans building the "best" cars. I drive on the AutoBahn > >every weekend, and they're no match for my Detroit "iron" (mostly plastic, > >fiberglass and aluminum--yes, the Corvette that Chevy FINALLY got right!! > >I'm not going to bring it back to the US because I am certain that I would > >be arrested within the first week. Seductive speed . . . forgive me, I > >digress). > >NAKS FOREVER, > >Brice > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: bob > >To: > >Sent: Monday, August 30, 1999 1:56 AM > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 > > > > > > > > > > The LX-3 is one of the best sounding decks ever made by Nakamichi. > > > Meanwhile, I have a mint 480Z for sale or trade > > > you may reach me during the week at > > > EPCN at poconorecord.com > > > above address on weekends... > > > thanks, > > > bob > > > PS: > > > Had LX-3 for years...now have a CR-7 > > > and the 480Z, of course. > > > > > > > > > Bill Roehl wrote: > > > > > > > > I have recently purchased a BX-300, and I am in need of > >another > > > > deck... I was thinking about an LX-3. Will they work well together, > >and > > > > will they make decent sounding recordings? I know that BX-300's are > >great > > > > decks, but I haven't read much on the LX-3. Any ideas? > > > > > > > > - Bill - > > > > > > > > email - garcia at tusa.org > > > > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > > > > icq - 11398156 > > > > > > > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > > > > > > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of > >putting up > > > > with her shit. > > > > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = > >======= > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > >http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= = > >======= > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Tue Aug 31 15:23:38 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:23:38 -0500 Subject: AW: [naktalk] BX-300 and LX-3 References: <19990831063125.32546.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <37CBD75B.2EC6@bestweb.net> Brian, I'd go ahead and get the gear update. I bought my BX-300 used with the gear update aleady completed. It's one of the best-sounding Naks in my collection. It is a little noisier in the rewind and fast-forward modes, but I have not noticed that the gear mod has in anyway diminished the quality of the recordings I have made on it. All Naks from the later CR series on, were MANUFACTURED with the gear update. I can't imagine Nak would do anything that would significantly degrade the sound quality of their units. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From carl at freestylesalesco.com Tue Aug 31 23:10:09 1999 From: carl at freestylesalesco.com (C.A.G.) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:10:09 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] F/S Dragon Message-ID: <000001bef3f5$35021aa0$8064a8c0@pc-14.freestylesalesco.com> Hello, Just in case any listers are interested, I've just posted a Dragon up on E-bay. check out : http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=154443565 or just go www.ebay.com and search for " nakamichi dragon ". Hope it finds a good home. thanks - Carl ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= g:\07. razno\naktalk archive\1999\1999-9.txt ************************************************************************ From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Thu Sep 30 20:51:55 1999 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 01:51:55 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] CR7 References: <6d.162ad411.286f21b9@aol.com> Message-ID: <003901bf0b75$5e249c40$5b289bca@smarzuki> Hi Sam, Also liked the dragon sound very much - plus the added convenience of reversing naac, just toss in any tape and enjoy 1 hour of good sound ! But as Scott said sometimes I feel like turning the naac off and just use manual setting. Don't know if this makes sense ... but while I like cr7's clarity, dragon's overall "tonal balance" is more easy to my ear. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 7:36 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR7 > > Do you like the sound of the Dragon? > > -Sam ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Thu Sep 30 21:18:26 1999 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 02:18:26 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] CR7 References: <003601c100bf$e590a520$49289bca@smarzuki> <051901c100c8$4a3f34c0$973442cf@sank1> <001801c100d6$4f8c9860$5c289bca@smarzuki> <055d01c100fd$db138520$973442cf@sank1> Message-ID: <004e01c10199$8223e8a0$5b289bca@smarzuki> Thanks Stephen, I thought all 8 pins op amps are of dual type ... silly me for not reading the pdf more carefully. Best regards, Salim SM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Sank" To: Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] CR7 > The OP27 is a single channel op amp, which is a much older design than the > OP275 & quite different. It's a very good replacement for TL071 & LM741 > types, but the OP176, single version of the OP275, is much better. > Sounds like the CR-7 must be calibrated a bit high on levels. It should be > quite precisely 1VRMS for 0VU reading. > > Stephen Sank, Owner & RCA Ribbon Mic Restorer > Champlain Valley Speaker Company, aka Talking Dog Transducer Co. > http://www.thuntek.net/~bk11/home.htm ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From smarzuki at indosat.net.id Sat Sep 4 18:06:19 1999 From: smarzuki at indosat.net.id (Salim Marzuki) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:06:19 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] ebay info - bargain nak preamp Message-ID: <000701bef6ef$6d435b20$57289bca@smarzuki> I know this is not "recommended" ... but what the hey ... the price is right. :-) CA7 preamp including optional power strip at $207.50 - reserve already met !! http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1270934709 3.75 days to go. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Wed Sep 1 01:33:35 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 02:33:35 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] LX-3 problem! Please, help ASAP! Message-ID: <000e01bef409$83161ca0$26c8c1c1@dialup2.terranet.kiev.ua> Dear Nakers, Got some unexpected problem in a very moment :( After about hour of recording there was some sort of short noise, and now what I have: 1. In a record pause mode have no sound (just very-very litle), level meter stays out. Rec Muting - light on 2. Pressing play - LX-3 starts recording, sound - full level, level meter works fine. Rec. Muting - stays on. When trying to precc FADER DOWN - nothing happens. The rest works fine. Looks like there may be some sort of Fader circuit problem - or whatever. Please, advice what to check first. Unfortunately, have no schemes. Waiting for your help, please! Michael Kiev, Ukraine ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Wed Sep 1 08:49:41 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 09:49:41 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] LX-3 problem! Please, help ASAP! References: <000e01bef409$83161ca0$26c8c1c1@dialup2.terranet.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <005b01bef446$2cb06b80$131032d4@infosysbank.com> I just saw on E-bay a lot of 10 Nak service manuals - item No. 156047254, incl. manuals for LX-3 LX-5 BX-100 BX-150 BX-300 CASSETTE DECK-1 CASSETTE DECK-2 RX-202 RX-303 RX-505. Since the logistics don't allow me to participate, anyone interested - go for it ! I'm sure we could find a way to share later on. George ----- Original Message ----- From: MVM To: Sent: 01 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 02:33 Subject: [naktalk] LX-3 problem! Please, help ASAP! > Dear Nakers, > > Got some unexpected problem in a very moment :( > After about hour of recording there was some sort > of short noise, and now what I have: > > 1. In a record pause mode have no sound (just very-very litle), > level meter stays out. Rec Muting - light on > > 2. Pressing play - LX-3 starts recording, sound - full level, > level meter works fine. Rec. Muting - stays on. > When trying to precc FADER DOWN - nothing happens. > > The rest works fine. Looks like there may be some sort of > Fader circuit problem - or whatever. > > Please, advice what to check first. > Unfortunately, have no schemes. > > Waiting for your help, please! > > Michael > Kiev, Ukraine > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bssm at ibm.net Wed Sep 1 09:07:49 1999 From: bssm at ibm.net (Jo Jo) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:07:49 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Nakamichi 1000 References: <000e01bef409$83161ca0$26c8c1c1@dialup2.terranet.kiev.ua> <005b01bef446$2cb06b80$131032d4@infosysbank.com> Message-ID: <37CCD0C5.DF23F43F@ibm.net> Dear Nakers, First, I would like to say 'Hi' to all old member here, My Name is Johan, and My Nickname is 'Jo Jo'. I believe that you all are expert in Naks-Products Knowledge... I want to ask about 'is there any 'big major problems' if I purchase the secon-handed of The Nakamichi 1000 ? Because I'm afraid that it will be very easily broke down (in case of the head life-cycle, etc) ? I hope that anyone of you can help me. Thanks Very Much ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua Wed Sep 1 11:11:52 1999 From: MVM at boom.pp.kiev.ua (MVM) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:11:52 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Re: LX-3 problem! Message-ID: <011f01bef45a$097a5a40$26c8c1c1@dialup2.terranet.kiev.ua> Thanks George, Unfortunately, Ebay is very hard to deal for me as well. Anyway, problem with LX-3 is solved. Many thanks for Mr. Stephen Sank, who always ready to help! Michael >I just saw on E-bay a lot of 10 Nak service manuals - item No. 156047254, >incl. manuals for LX-3 LX-5 BX-100 BX-150 BX-300 CASSETTE DECK-1 CASSETTE >DECK-2 RX-202 RX-303 RX-505. Since the logistics don't allow me to >participate, anyone interested - go for it ! I'm sure we could find a way to >share later on. > >George ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Wed Sep 1 12:53:42 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:53:42 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Re: LX-3 problem! References: <011f01bef45a$097a5a40$26c8c1c1@dialup2.terranet.kiev.ua> Message-ID: <007401bef468$421681e0$131032d4@infosysbank.com> Hi Misha, I replied to your msg because it was the easiest way for me to write to the list - just clicked "Reply" on your message. I know that you face the same problems like me re online purchases ex-US, but was hoping that someone would go for this set and, ideally, scan and send to Wouter for general use. Glad you fixed your LX-3, and, yes, Stephen Sank is a godsend. George ----- Original Message ----- From: MVM To: Sent: 01 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 12:11 Subject: [naktalk] Re: LX-3 problem! > Thanks George, > > Unfortunately, Ebay is very hard to deal for me as well. > Anyway, problem with LX-3 is solved. > Many thanks for Mr. Stephen Sank, who always ready to help! > > Michael > > > >I just saw on E-bay a lot of 10 Nak service manuals - item No. 156047254, > >incl. manuals for LX-3 LX-5 BX-100 BX-150 BX-300 CASSETTE DECK-1 CASSETTE > >DECK-2 RX-202 RX-303 RX-505. Since the logistics don't allow me to > >participate, anyone interested - go for it ! I'm sure we could find a way > to > >share later on. > > > >George > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From pardeepj at hotmail.com Wed Sep 1 15:55:29 1999 From: pardeepj at hotmail.com (pardeep jagdev) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 13:55:29 GMT Subject: [naktalk] Nak audiofile CD player Message-ID: <19990901135529.84497.qmail@hotmail.com> I thought I would ask the nak panel of experts out there for some advice. I am interested in buying the audiofile Nak Cd player, it's the one with an outboard AC power supply. The power supply is converted to DC and then fed into the main CD transport. The question is, I live in Australia where the Voltage is 220, the item I wish to purchase is 120 volt permanent. Can I convert to 220, what is involved? will the conversion effect the DC supply?, impedence etc Any help would be much appreciated thanks Pardeep ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From cvshanson at sprintmail.com Wed Sep 1 17:50:13 1999 From: cvshanson at sprintmail.com (Vern Hanson) Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:50:13 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak Parts Message-ID: <37CD4B34.F05AED30@sprintmail.com> I have three older Naks that I am in the process of doing preventive maintenance to and would like to fide a source for a couple of parts. I am looking for belts and pinch roller assemblies for the 600 and a couple of 500's. One of the 500's needs a headphone jack replaced. I know that it would be easy to go to "Radio Shack" but I would rather replace it with original equipment if possible. I am also still looking for a copy of the 500 owners manual. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Vern Hanson ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Davin_Clem at mail.sel.sony.com Wed Sep 1 20:33:02 1999 From: Davin_Clem at mail.sel.sony.com (Davin Clem) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:33:02 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Nak Parts Message-ID: <0042D652.4532@mail.sel.sony.com> I have three older Naks that I am in the process of doing preventive maintenance to and would like to fide a source for a couple of parts. I am looking for belts and pinch roller assemblies for the 600 and a couple of 500's. One of the 500's needs a headphone jack replaced. I know that it would be easy to go to "Radio Shack" but I would rather replace it with original equipment if possible. I am also still looking for a copy of the 500 owners manual. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Vern Hanson ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== === naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== === ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Thu Sep 2 12:07:26 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 20:07:26 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Nak audiofile CD player References: <19990901135529.84497.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <37CE4C5D.D24320B@ozemail.com.au> Yes. And the only man I would trust with this is Tony McKay of Pure Audio. Archies Creek Victoria. He understands power transformers and Nakamichis. Better still he believes that the integrity of power supply benefits audio performance . I allow him to play with the insides of my Dragon - a liberty I would allow few others. Greetings oh fellow Nakamaniacs John H pardeep jagdev wrote: > I thought I would ask the nak panel of experts out there for some advice. I > am interested in buying the audiofile Nak Cd player, it's the one with an > outboard AC power supply. The power supply is converted to DC and then fed > into the main CD transport. > > The question is, I live in Australia where the Voltage is 220, the item I > wish to purchase is 120 volt permanent. Can I convert to 220, what is > involved? will the conversion effect the DC supply?, impedence etc > > Any help would be much appreciated > thanks > Pardeep > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Fri Sep 3 21:56:03 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:56:03 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon question Message-ID: <005e01bef646$5b320160$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> Here's one that's probably way simple: The Dragon has large buttons, labeled EX, SX, and ZX, between the calibration controls. I know that the buttons are used to select the tape type for calibration purposes, but does the deck automatically choose the type for normal record and playback? DD ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Sat Sep 4 00:06:02 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 08:06:02 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon question References: <005e01bef646$5b320160$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: <37D0464A.EB5C125D@ozemail.com.au> NO David Drucker wrote: > Here's one that's probably way simple: > The Dragon has large buttons, labeled EX, SX, and ZX, between the > calibration controls. > I know that the buttons are used to select the tape type for calibration > purposes, but does the deck automatically choose the type for normal record > and playback? > DD > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Sat Sep 4 00:35:43 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:35:43 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon question References: <005e01bef646$5b320160$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> <37D0464A.EB5C125D@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <011601bef65c$a8cbb860$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> Well I'll be! Thanks for the info. DD ----- Original Message ----- From: mdhjwh To: Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 6:06 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon question > NO > > David Drucker wrote: > > > Here's one that's probably way simple: > > The Dragon has large buttons, labeled EX, SX, and ZX, between the > > calibration controls. > > I know that the buttons are used to select the tape type for calibration > > purposes, but does the deck automatically choose the type for normal record > > and playback? > > DD > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Sat Sep 4 02:24:46 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 10:24:46 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Dragon disergonomics References: <005e01bef646$5b320160$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> <37D0464A.EB5C125D@ozemail.com.au> <011601bef65c$a8cbb860$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: <37D066CD.34C9350C@ozemail.com.au> When attempting to ascertain which button is which (EQ170/90), which Dolby is engaged etc etc it pays to paint the fiddly little buttons themselves with lurid and reflective nail polish - different colors per function. If you go to re-sell the deck to a Purist Nakamaniac a little nail polish remover does the trick. Is Nakamichi about to release 2 new analogue decks? ! ! ! ! ! ! ! Put me on the waiting list! John H David Drucker wrote: > Well I'll be! > Thanks for the info. > DD > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mdhjwh > To: > Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 6:06 PM > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon question > > > NO > > > > David Drucker wrote: > > > > > Here's one that's probably way simple: > > > The Dragon has large buttons, labeled EX, SX, and ZX, between the > > > calibration controls. > > > I know that the buttons are used to select the tape type for calibration > > > purposes, but does the deck automatically choose the type for normal > record > > > and playback? > > > DD > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Sat Sep 4 14:12:04 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 22:12:04 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Is Nakamichi about to release 2 new analogue decks References: <005e01bef646$5b320160$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> <37D0464A.EB5C125D@ozemail.com.au> <011601bef65c$a8cbb860$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> <37D066CD.34C9350C@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <37D10C93.97E949E4@ozemail.com.au> mdhjwh wrote: > When attempting to ascertain which button is which (EQ170/90), > which Dolby is blah blah blah . . . .< . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . > .>Is Nakamichi about to release 2 new analogue decks? ! ! ! ! ! ! ! > Put me on the waiting list! > John H > > David Drucker wrote: > > > Well I'll be! > > Thanks for the info. > > DD > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: mdhjwh > > To: > > Sent: Friday, September 03, 1999 6:06 PM > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Dragon question > > > > > NO > > > > > > David Drucker wrote: > > > > > > > Here's one that's probably way simple: > > > > The Dragon has large buttons, labeled EX, SX, and ZX, between the > > > > calibration controls. > > > > I know that the buttons are used to select the tape type for calibration > > > > purposes, but does the deck automatically choose the type for normal > > record > > > > and playback? > > > > DD > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > > ======= > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bobos61 at hotmail.com Sun Sep 5 20:49:01 1999 From: bobos61 at hotmail.com (ed mambruno) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 11:49:01 PDT Subject: [naktalk] NEED OWNER'S MANUAL FOR RX-202 Message-ID: <19990905184901.9674.qmail@hotmail.com> DOES ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE A RX-202 MANUAL THEY CAN COPY FOR ME? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bochar at epix.net Mon Sep 6 04:36:14 1999 From: bochar at epix.net (bob) Date: Sun, 05 Sep 1999 22:36:14 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 680 Message-ID: <37D3289E.ED74A9CD@epix.net> Would like to hear of experiences with half-speed NAK decks. only model was 680??? none with dolby C? little confused on this... as good sound as CR-7A ? I'm tempted to trade for the half-speed feature but afraid might be more problems than it's worth.. what do you think? thanks bob -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Mon Sep 6 19:15:26 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:15:26 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Nak 582s for sale. Message-ID: <025701bef88b$69d71b00$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> I'm upgrading my dubbing system, which means that one or both of my Nakamichi 582 decks is/are up for grabs. Both were just serviced by Stephen Sank, to the tune of $90 apiece (plus shipping), so you know they're in fine shape. Both are cosmetically excellent, each comes with an original manual. Most of the Nak chatter centers on newer or more famous models, but IMHO the 582 is one of the great workhorse decks of all time. Rock-solid transport, great electronics, and front-panel bias & level adjust with oscillators (just like a Dragon). The 582 cost $890 when that sum would buy a *very* nice used car. Steal mine for $350 each, plus shipping. DD ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Mon Sep 6 19:30:51 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 1999 13:30:51 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Nak 582 resent, w/return address Message-ID: <027501bef88d$9159a100$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> I'm upgrading my dubbing system, which means that one or both of my Nakamichi 582 decks is/are up for grabs. Both were just serviced by Stephen Sank, to the tune of $90 apiece (plus shipping), so you know they're in fine shape. Both are cosmetically excellent, each comes with an original manual. Most of the Nak chatter centers on newer or more famous models, but IMHO the 582 is one of the great workhorse decks of all time. Rock-solid transport, great electronics, and front-panel bias & level adjust with oscillators (just like a Dragon). The 582 cost $890 when that sum would buy a *very* nice used car. Steal mine for $350 each, plus shipping. David Drucker ddrucker at stny.rr.com (Didn't realize my return address wouldn't appear in the header of the initial post. Sorry) ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From enoyes at snet.net Tue Sep 7 00:03:22 1999 From: enoyes at snet.net (Ed Noyes) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 18:03:22 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] For Sale: Nak PA-7, CA-5, ST-7... Superb! References: <19990905184903.76552.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <37D43A28.2BA5AFD7@snet.net> Greetings Fellow Nakaphiles! This is a set of some of the finest electronics that Nakamichi ever produced in fantastic condition that I'm offering for sale. The PA-7 is without a doubt the finest amp that Nak ever produced! It is very conservatively rated at 200wpc and features the STASIS topology that was originally developed by Nelson Pass at Threshold. The amp is built like a brick and does sound fantastic... among the most neutral and effortless amps I've ever encountered! Likewise, the ST-7 is an equally superb tuner... it is wonderfully sensitive and capable of bringing out the very best in FM broadcasts. The tuner features 16 presets and the great Schotz noise reduction circuitry which does wonders for reducing the noise level on extremely weak signals. Other nice features include switchable multipath/signal strength metering, switchable seek level threshold, FM muting, and stereo/mono switching. All in all, a superb tuner! Finally, the CA-5 is certainly world class. This is a straight forward design that features controls for volume, balance, input selector, and tape monitor for two decks. The sound is truly transparent and accurate with a very noteworthy phono section that also allows for variable cartridge loading. All of these pieces are superbly built and look fantastic as well... they are truly the finest offering from the company and worthy of inclusion along with the best associated equipment available! I'm looking to get around $1800 for the set which is actually less than the current Blue Book value for the amp alone. I might also consider breaking up the set if someone really wants just one or two of the pieces. I should also mention that extensive references are available upon request. Regards, Ed ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stimpson at gte.net Tue Sep 7 04:27:01 1999 From: stimpson at gte.net (stimpson at gte.net) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 21:27:01 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] For Sale: Nak PA-7, CA-5, ST-7... Superb! Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990907022701.00695f9c@mail.gte.net> Ed, I would be interested in purchasing the PA-7 amp from you, but I have no use for the other two pieces of equipment. Let me know what price you will accept for the amp, and if it is reasonable I will make an offer to purchase it. Thanks. Dennis Stimpson At 06:03 PM 9/6/99 -0400, you wrote: >Greetings Fellow Nakaphiles! > >This is a set of some of the finest electronics that Nakamichi ever produced in >fantastic condition that I'm offering for sale. > >The PA-7 is without a doubt the finest amp that Nak ever produced! It is very >conservatively rated at 200wpc and features the STASIS topology that was originally >developed by Nelson Pass at Threshold. The amp is built like a brick and does sound >fantastic... among the most neutral and effortless amps I've ever encountered! > >Likewise, the ST-7 is an equally superb tuner... it is wonderfully sensitive and >capable of bringing out the very best in FM broadcasts. The tuner features 16 presets >and the great Schotz noise reduction circuitry which does wonders for reducing the >noise level on extremely weak signals. Other nice features include switchable >multipath/signal strength metering, switchable seek level threshold, FM muting, and >stereo/mono switching. All in all, a superb tuner! > >Finally, the CA-5 is certainly world class. This is a straight forward design that >features controls for volume, balance, input selector, and tape monitor for two decks. >The sound is truly transparent and accurate with a very noteworthy phono section that >also allows for variable cartridge loading. > >All of these pieces are superbly built and look fantastic as well... they are truly >the finest offering from the company and worthy of inclusion along with the best >associated equipment available! > >I'm looking to get around $1800 for the set which is actually less than the current >Blue Book value for the amp alone. I might also consider breaking up the set if >someone really wants just one or two of the pieces. I should also mention that >extensive references are available upon request. > >Regards, >Ed > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From enoyes at snet.net Tue Sep 7 04:24:45 1999 From: enoyes at snet.net (Ed Noyes) Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 22:24:45 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] For Sale: Nak PA-7, CA-5, ST-7... Superb! References: <1.5.4.32.19990907022701.00695f9c@mail.gte.net> Message-ID: <37D4776C.A455A4E3@snet.net> Hi There, The amp is certainly the hands down winner among these pieces. I'd like to get about $1200 it. This is the original PA-7 which is both better built and a nicer sounding piece than the later versions. Let me know if this price is in the ballpark. Thanks, Ed stimpson at gte.net wrote: > Ed, > > I would be interested in purchasing the PA-7 amp from you, but I have no use > for the other two pieces of equipment. Let me know what price you will > accept for the amp, and if it is reasonable I will make an offer to purchase > it. Thanks. > > Dennis Stimpson > > At 06:03 PM 9/6/99 -0400, you wrote: > >Greetings Fellow Nakaphiles! > > > >This is a set of some of the finest electronics that Nakamichi ever produced in > >fantastic condition that I'm offering for sale. > > > >The PA-7 is without a doubt the finest amp that Nak ever produced! It is very > >conservatively rated at 200wpc and features the STASIS topology that was > originally > >developed by Nelson Pass at Threshold. The amp is built like a brick and > does sound > >fantastic... among the most neutral and effortless amps I've ever encountered! > > > >Likewise, the ST-7 is an equally superb tuner... it is wonderfully > sensitive and > >capable of bringing out the very best in FM broadcasts. The tuner features > 16 presets > >and the great Schotz noise reduction circuitry which does wonders for > reducing the > >noise level on extremely weak signals. Other nice features include switchable > >multipath/signal strength metering, switchable seek level threshold, FM > muting, and > >stereo/mono switching. All in all, a superb tuner! > > > >Finally, the CA-5 is certainly world class. This is a straight forward > design that > >features controls for volume, balance, input selector, and tape monitor for > two decks. > >The sound is truly transparent and accurate with a very noteworthy phono > section that > >also allows for variable cartridge loading. > > > >All of these pieces are superbly built and look fantastic as well... they > are truly > >the finest offering from the company and worthy of inclusion along with the > best > >associated equipment available! > > > >I'm looking to get around $1800 for the set which is actually less than the > current > >Blue Book value for the amp alone. I might also consider breaking up the set if > >someone really wants just one or two of the pieces. I should also mention that > >extensive references are available upon request. > > > >Regards, > >Ed > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= > ======== > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bon at ics.mq.edu.au Tue Sep 7 04:24:17 1999 From: bon at ics.mq.edu.au (Bon Clarke) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:24:17 +1000 (EST) Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade In-Reply-To: <37D45802.495748A1@optusnet.com.au> Message-ID: >I have a Kenwood KD-550 turntable that I have carefully looked after for >many years and used little. > >It was one of the few direct drives that was a success if I remember >right. > >I am thinking of upgrading the tone arm with a Rega 550 and would like >come comment on the suitability of this arm. > >BTW I am new to the list and have not seen any posting yet. I do hope >that there are a few people out there. > >Bob........ I presume you mean a Rega 250. I have two Rega 300 installed on a Technics SP10mkII and Linn Sondek LP12. The 300 is the original and the 250 slightly cheaper but essentially the same apart from different counterweight, spring anti-skating instead of magnetic, and a few cosmetic details. Both are all-time bargains. They can accept pick-up cartridges way up in the high-end and you will have to pay mega-dollars to better their performance. The only inconvenience is the lack of height adjustment. They need special spacers to raise the arm base for tall pick-ups e.g. Blue Point Special. Bonnington M N Clarke Mathematics Department Division of Information & Communication Sciences Macquarie University NSW 2109 AUSTRALIA ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From brianwinans at hotmail.com Tue Sep 7 16:36:00 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 07:36:00 PDT Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade Message-ID: <19990907143601.21279.qmail@hotmail.com> hey, I don't want to sound like an asshole or anything, but why in the HELL would you even bother upgrading a tonearm for a Kenwood 'table? I could see upgrading if you have a $3,000 'table, but a Kenwood? I am just curious let me know, Brian >From: Bon Clarke >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: Bob Fletcher >CC: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade >Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 12:24:17 +1000 (EST) > > >I have a Kenwood KD-550 turntable that I have carefully looked after for > >many years and used little. > > > >It was one of the few direct drives that was a success if I remember > >right. > > > >I am thinking of upgrading the tone arm with a Rega 550 and would like > >come comment on the suitability of this arm. > > > >BTW I am new to the list and have not seen any posting yet. I do hope > >that there are a few people out there. > > > >Bob........ > >I presume you mean a Rega 250. I have two Rega 300 installed on a Technics >SP10mkII and Linn Sondek LP12. The 300 is the original and the 250 slightly >cheaper but essentially the same apart from different counterweight, spring >anti-skating instead of magnetic, and a few cosmetic details. Both are >all-time bargains. They can accept pick-up cartridges way up in the >high-end and you will have to pay mega-dollars to better their performance. >The only inconvenience is the lack of height adjustment. They need special >spacers to raise the arm base for tall pick-ups e.g. Blue Point Special. > >Bonnington M N Clarke >Mathematics Department >Division of Information & Communication Sciences >Macquarie University >NSW 2109 >AUSTRALIA > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From fidelman at telcel.net.ve Tue Sep 7 17:57:04 1999 From: fidelman at telcel.net.ve (Isy Fidelman) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 11:57:04 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] For Sale: Nak PA-7, CA-5, ST-7... Superb! References: <19990905184903.76552.qmail@hotmail.com> <37D43A28.2BA5AFD7@snet.net> Message-ID: <37D535D0.7FCC9EF8@telcel.net.ve> I would be interest in the ST-7 since I own a PA-7 with the CA-7....just let me know how much do you expect for it.... Thanks a lot Isy Fidelman fidelman at telcel.net.ve Ed Noyes wrote: > Greetings Fellow Nakaphiles! > > This is a set of some of the finest electronics that Nakamichi ever produced in > fantastic condition that I'm offering for sale. > > The PA-7 is without a doubt the finest amp that Nak ever produced! It is very > conservatively rated at 200wpc and features the STASIS topology that was originally > developed by Nelson Pass at Threshold. The amp is built like a brick and does sound > fantastic... among the most neutral and effortless amps I've ever encountered! > > Likewise, the ST-7 is an equally superb tuner... it is wonderfully sensitive and > capable of bringing out the very best in FM broadcasts. The tuner features 16 presets > and the great Schotz noise reduction circuitry which does wonders for reducing the > noise level on extremely weak signals. Other nice features include switchable > multipath/signal strength metering, switchable seek level threshold, FM muting, and > stereo/mono switching. All in all, a superb tuner! > > Finally, the CA-5 is certainly world class. This is a straight forward design that > features controls for volume, balance, input selector, and tape monitor for two decks. > The sound is truly transparent and accurate with a very noteworthy phono section that > also allows for variable cartridge loading. > > All of these pieces are superbly built and look fantastic as well... they are truly > the finest offering from the company and worthy of inclusion along with the best > associated equipment available! > > I'm looking to get around $1800 for the set which is actually less than the current > Blue Book value for the amp alone. I might also consider breaking up the set if > someone really wants just one or two of the pieces. I should also mention that > extensive references are available upon request. > > Regards, > Ed > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From KDoran6193 at aol.com Tue Sep 7 19:35:31 1999 From: KDoran6193 at aol.com (KDoran6193 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:35:31 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade In Reply To BRIAN's Comment Message-ID: YES, BRIAN -- YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE FOR BEHAVING SO POORLY TO ANYONE. You may be correct, but you don't have to fart upon your entrance. One man's ceiling is another man's floor. kavash ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Sep 7 22:58:40 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:58:40 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101bef973$f153aa60$05000006@p4v56> Actually, I think he does mean a 550 - I believe it's their latest. However, I recommend you try the Origin Live modified RB300. Now, that is a stonking good arm! I have it with a DNM Reson cartridge on a Pink Triangle PT TOO and it sounds wonderful. Bye the way, I don't know anything about Kenwood turntables but don't knock the old stuff! I have a slightly modified 30 year old Goldring Lenco GL78 and it can give my PT TOO quite a run for the money! In fact, it beats it in one very important respect - the motor is far superior and much more stable especially if fed a near-perfect current (which I do from a "virtual battery") Graham (Nelson) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Bon Clarke > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 03:24 > To: Bob Fletcher > Cc: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade > > > >I have a Kenwood KD-550 turntable that I have carefully > looked after for > >many years and used little. > > > >It was one of the few direct drives that was a success if I remember > >right. > > > >I am thinking of upgrading the tone arm with a Rega 550 and > would like > >come comment on the suitability of this arm. > > > >BTW I am new to the list and have not seen any posting yet. > I do hope > >that there are a few people out there. > > > >Bob........ > > I presume you mean a Rega 250. I have two Rega 300 installed > on a Technics > SP10mkII and Linn Sondek LP12. The 300 is the original and > the 250 slightly > cheaper but essentially the same apart from different > counterweight, spring > anti-skating instead of magnetic, and a few cosmetic details. Both are > all-time bargains. They can accept pick-up cartridges way up in the > high-end and you will have to pay mega-dollars to better > their performance. > The only inconvenience is the lack of height adjustment. They > need special > spacers to raise the arm base for tall pick-ups e.g. Blue > Point Special. > > Bonnington M N Clarke > Mathematics Department > Division of Information & Communication Sciences > Macquarie University > NSW 2109 > AUSTRALIA > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Wed Sep 8 01:05:43 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 18:05:43 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade References: <19990907143601.21279.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <37D59A47.42AF@bestweb.net> Brian I don't know the Kenwood KD-550, but there was a Kenwood KD-500 that was pretty highly regarded by audiophiles in the early eighties. It was an armless table with a STONE base that was as solidly built as it was attractive. I heard this stone base gave it excellent isolation characteristics. I saw them set up at a couple of high-end places with nice arms and cartridges. Maybe the 550 is a later version. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bobos61 at hotmail.com Wed Sep 8 00:26:16 1999 From: bobos61 at hotmail.com (ed mambruno) Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:26:16 PDT Subject: [naktalk] For Sale: Nak PA-7, CA-5, ST-7... Superb! Message-ID: <19990907222618.6066.qmail@hotmail.com> HI, I'M INTERESTED IN THE TUNER-HOW MUCH? >From: Ed Noyes >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: [naktalk] For Sale: Nak PA-7, CA-5, ST-7... Superb! >Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 18:03:22 -0400 > >Greetings Fellow Nakaphiles! > >This is a set of some of the finest electronics that Nakamichi ever >produced in >fantastic condition that I'm offering for sale. > >The PA-7 is without a doubt the finest amp that Nak ever produced! It is >very >conservatively rated at 200wpc and features the STASIS topology that was >originally >developed by Nelson Pass at Threshold. The amp is built like a brick and >does sound >fantastic... among the most neutral and effortless amps I've ever >encountered! > >Likewise, the ST-7 is an equally superb tuner... it is wonderfully >sensitive and >capable of bringing out the very best in FM broadcasts. The tuner features >16 presets >and the great Schotz noise reduction circuitry which does wonders for >reducing the >noise level on extremely weak signals. Other nice features include >switchable >multipath/signal strength metering, switchable seek level threshold, FM >muting, and >stereo/mono switching. All in all, a superb tuner! > >Finally, the CA-5 is certainly world class. This is a straight forward >design that >features controls for volume, balance, input selector, and tape monitor for >two decks. >The sound is truly transparent and accurate with a very noteworthy phono >section that >also allows for variable cartridge loading. > >All of these pieces are superbly built and look fantastic as well... they >are truly >the finest offering from the company and worthy of inclusion along with the >best >associated equipment available! > >I'm looking to get around $1800 for the set which is actually less than the >current >Blue Book value for the amp alone. I might also consider breaking up the >set if >someone really wants just one or two of the pieces. I should also mention >that >extensive references are available upon request. > >Regards, >Ed > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ats99001 at uconnvm.uconn.edu Wed Sep 8 07:20:57 1999 From: ats99001 at uconnvm.uconn.edu (Andrew Smith) Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:20:57 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] 581 Info needed References: <199909071444.QAA03489@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <004001bef9b9$f2461de0$519a6389@localnet> Hi everybody. I am apparently about to get my filthy sweat stained hands on a NAK 581z, and I am excited. So, can ya'll give me the general opinions on this deck. The only other Nak I have heard is my BX-1, which I think sounds incredible. I imagine I will be pleased with a 3 head deck then. Also, if anyone has pdf files of the manual for either the 581z of BX-1 could I be directed to them? Thanks ya'll. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Wed Sep 8 07:27:56 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:27:56 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade References: <19990907143601.21279.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <37D5F3DC.46CCAE20@ozemail.com.au> brian winans wrote: ..>but why in the HELL would you even bother upgrading a tonearm for a Kenwood 'table?< Whilst admitting that installing an RB300 will give some benefit it is not going to reveal anything of how good this arm can sound. As this table has somewhat of a cult status amongst "scratch artists" I wonder what your major use of it will be? John H ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Wed Sep 8 07:30:33 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:30:33 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade References: <000101bef973$f153aa60$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <37D5F479.A4FF99CC@ozemail.com.au> Graham Nelson wrote:the motor is far superior and much more stable especially if fed a near-perfect current (which I do from a "virtual battery") Could you tell us something of your "virtual battery" John H ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mature at owh.moldnet.md Fri Sep 3 05:12:29 1999 From: mature at owh.moldnet.md (M T) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 06:12:29 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] just thinking Message-ID: <37CF3C9D.DE662F9@owh.moldnet.md> hey, brothers in naks, what would you say about the idea of replacing the rec/play head in the two-head machines with a discrete head? just the head. wouldn't it improve the recording&playing characteristics of the deck? seems logical to me, but what the qualified specialists are thinking about that ??? in this possibly happy context, what opinions do you have about the "famous" thin-film "amorphous Z" head by Technics (AZ-6, AZ-7 decks), eh? how about that? best, marin. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From captain at bestweb.net Wed Sep 8 15:24:24 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 08:24:24 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] just thinking References: <37CF3C9D.DE662F9@owh.moldnet.md> Message-ID: <37D66388.D85@bestweb.net> Marin, If you did this, you'd only be able to record OR play. You'd have to choose which function you wanted most, since the discrete heads only perform one specialized duty. Since you'd decrease the deck's usefulness by limiting what it can do, it doesn't really sound like a good idea. Actually, I'm not even sure such a thing is possible. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Wed Sep 8 15:38:49 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 08:38:49 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 581 Info needed References: <199909071444.QAA03489@zebra.naks.com> <004001bef9b9$f2461de0$519a6389@localnet> Message-ID: <37D666E9.5805@bestweb.net> Andrew, I have a 581 and it is a great deck. It is sonically excellent and has full calibration capabilities. It only has Dolby B, however, and, while it is a three head deck, it has no monitoring capability. If that doesn't bother you too much, you'll be happy, because despite those deficits, you get FULL three head performance out of this unit. It will perform more or less as well as any other three head Nak in its class. Buy without fear! Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From HerbChong at compuserve.com Wed Sep 8 15:07:42 1999 From: HerbChong at compuserve.com (Herb Chong) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:07:42 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] just thinking Message-ID: <199909080907_MC2-8402-EE64@compuserve.com> >Marin, If you did this, you'd only be able to record OR play. You'd have to choose which function you wanted most, since the discrete heads only perform one specialized duty. Since you'd decrease the deck's usefulness by limiting what it can do, it doesn't really sound like a good idea. Actually, I'm not even sure such a thing is possible. Tom< the electrical characteristics of different heads are different and the compensation circuitry would be all wrong. i don't think anything would melt or anything like that, but it would be equivalent to swapping speaker drivers between widely different models of a brand of speakers. Herb.... ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Wed Sep 8 15:08:47 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:08:47 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 581 Info needed References: <199909071444.QAA03489@zebra.naks.com> <004001bef9b9$f2461de0$519a6389@localnet> Message-ID: <007301bef9fb$49c4e2e0$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> And hello again! The 581z is a dandy deck; I've got a pair of 582s, which are mechanically the same, and pretty much bulletproof. The basic difference between the 581 and 582 series is the 581s lack of off-tape monitoring. It's a three-head deck, but the electronics have to be switched between record and playback. Note that the switch that does this can be problematic after all these years, so make sure that it works before writing the check. Other than that, the "z" edition replaces the earlier models' analog meters with LEDs, and adds Dolby C -- irrelevant, probably -- to the mix. You're gonna love it. Seeya. DD ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Smith To: Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 1:20 AM Subject: [naktalk] 581 Info needed > Hi everybody. I am apparently about to get my filthy sweat stained hands on > a NAK 581z, and I am excited. So, can ya'll give me the general opinions on > this deck. The only other Nak I have heard is my BX-1, which I think sounds > incredible. I imagine I will be pleased with a 3 head deck then. Also, if > anyone has pdf files of the manual for either the 581z of BX-1 could I be > directed to them? Thanks ya'll. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Wed Sep 8 15:41:17 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 09:41:17 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #32 re turntable upgrade References: <199909081049.MAA06081@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <37D6677D.8B213A0C@iconn.net> To the guys who can't watch their mouths: If I want to read messages from people insulting each other, I'll log onto some adolescent chat group, not the Naktalk Digest. Tone it down and have some respect for one another, and for the rest of us innocent bystanders! Here's a simple tip. If you have something to say to anyone that will not be of general interest to this group, e.g. insults, simply direct it to that person only and leave the rest of us out of the loop. Jim naktalk-digest wrote: > naktalk-digest Wednesday, September 8 1999 Volume 01 : Number 032 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 11:57:04 -0400 > From: Isy Fidelman > Subject: Re: [naktalk] For Sale: Nak PA-7, CA-5, ST-7... Superb! > > I would be interest in the ST-7 since I own a PA-7 with the CA-7....just let me know how > much do you expect for it.... > Thanks a lot > Isy Fidelman > fidelman at telcel.net.ve > > Ed Noyes wrote: > > > Greetings Fellow Nakaphiles! > > > > This is a set of some of the finest electronics that Nakamichi ever produced in > > fantastic condition that I'm offering for sale. > > > > The PA-7 is without a doubt the finest amp that Nak ever produced! It is very > > conservatively rated at 200wpc and features the STASIS topology that was originally > > developed by Nelson Pass at Threshold. The amp is built like a brick and does sound > > fantastic... among the most neutral and effortless amps I've ever encountered! > > > > Likewise, the ST-7 is an equally superb tuner... it is wonderfully sensitive and > > capable of bringing out the very best in FM broadcasts. The tuner features 16 presets > > and the great Schotz noise reduction circuitry which does wonders for reducing the > > noise level on extremely weak signals. Other nice features include switchable > > multipath/signal strength metering, switchable seek level threshold, FM muting, and > > stereo/mono switching. All in all, a superb tuner! > > > > Finally, the CA-5 is certainly world class. This is a straight forward design that > > features controls for volume, balance, input selector, and tape monitor for two decks. > > The sound is truly transparent and accurate with a very noteworthy phono section that > > also allows for variable cartridge loading. > > > > All of these pieces are superbly built and look fantastic as well... they are truly > > the finest offering from the company and worthy of inclusion along with the best > > associated equipment available! > > > > I'm looking to get around $1800 for the set which is actually less than the current > > Blue Book value for the amp alone. I might also consider breaking up the set if > > someone really wants just one or two of the pieces. I should also mention that > > extensive references are available upon request. > > > > Regards, > > Ed > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 13:35:31 EDT > From: KDoran6193 at aol.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade In Reply To BRIAN's Comment > > YES, BRIAN -- YOU ARE AN ASSHOLE FOR BEHAVING SO POORLY TO ANYONE. You may > be correct, but you don't have to fart upon your entrance. One man's ceiling > is another man's floor. > kavash > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 21:58:40 +0100 > From: "Graham Nelson" > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade > > Actually, I think he does mean a 550 - I believe it's their latest. > > However, I recommend you try the Origin Live modified RB300. Now, that is a > stonking good arm! I have it with a DNM Reson cartridge on a Pink Triangle > PT TOO and it sounds wonderful. > > Bye the way, I don't know anything about Kenwood turntables but don't knock > the old stuff! I have a slightly modified 30 year old Goldring Lenco GL78 > and it can give my PT TOO quite a run for the money! In fact, it beats it > in one very important respect - the motor is far superior and much more > stable especially if fed a near-perfect current (which I do from a "virtual > battery") > > Graham (Nelson) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > Bon Clarke > > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 03:24 > > To: Bob Fletcher > > Cc: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade > > > > > > >I have a Kenwood KD-550 turntable that I have carefully > > looked after for > > >many years and used little. > > > > > >It was one of the few direct drives that was a success if I remember > > >right. > > > > > >I am thinking of upgrading the tone arm with a Rega 550 and > > would like > > >come comment on the suitability of this arm. > > > > > >BTW I am new to the list and have not seen any posting yet. > > I do hope > > >that there are a few people out there. > > > > > >Bob........ > > > > I presume you mean a Rega 250. I have two Rega 300 installed > > on a Technics > > SP10mkII and Linn Sondek LP12. The 300 is the original and > > the 250 slightly > > cheaper but essentially the same apart from different > > counterweight, spring > > anti-skating instead of magnetic, and a few cosmetic details. Both are > > all-time bargains. They can accept pick-up cartridges way up in the > > high-end and you will have to pay mega-dollars to better > > their performance. > > The only inconvenience is the lack of height adjustment. They > > need special > > spacers to raise the arm base for tall pick-ups e.g. Blue > > Point Special. > > > > Bonnington M N Clarke > > Mathematics Department > > Division of Information & Communication Sciences > > Macquarie University > > NSW 2109 > > AUSTRALIA > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > > Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------========= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 18:05:43 -0500 > From: Tom Bergman > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade > > Brian > I don't know the Kenwood KD-550, but there was a Kenwood KD-500 > that was pretty highly regarded by audiophiles in the early eighties. > It was an armless table with a STONE base that was as solidly built as > it was attractive. I heard this stone base gave it excellent isolation > characteristics. I saw them set up at a couple of high-end places with > nice arms and cartridges. Maybe the 550 is a later version. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 15:26:16 PDT > From: "ed mambruno" > Subject: Re: [naktalk] For Sale: Nak PA-7, CA-5, ST-7... Superb! > > HI, > I'M INTERESTED IN THE TUNER-HOW MUCH? > > >From: Ed Noyes > >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com > >To: naktalk at naks.com > >Subject: [naktalk] For Sale: Nak PA-7, CA-5, ST-7... Superb! > >Date: Mon, 06 Sep 1999 18:03:22 -0400 > > > >Greetings Fellow Nakaphiles! > > > >This is a set of some of the finest electronics that Nakamichi ever > >produced in > >fantastic condition that I'm offering for sale. > > > >The PA-7 is without a doubt the finest amp that Nak ever produced! It is > >very > >conservatively rated at 200wpc and features the STASIS topology that was > >originally > >developed by Nelson Pass at Threshold. The amp is built like a brick and > >does sound > >fantastic... among the most neutral and effortless amps I've ever > >encountered! > > > >Likewise, the ST-7 is an equally superb tuner... it is wonderfully > >sensitive and > >capable of bringing out the very best in FM broadcasts. The tuner features > >16 presets > >and the great Schotz noise reduction circuitry which does wonders for > >reducing the > >noise level on extremely weak signals. Other nice features include > >switchable > >multipath/signal strength metering, switchable seek level threshold, FM > >muting, and > >stereo/mono switching. All in all, a superb tuner! > > > >Finally, the CA-5 is certainly world class. This is a straight forward > >design that > >features controls for volume, balance, input selector, and tape monitor for > >two decks. > >The sound is truly transparent and accurate with a very noteworthy phono > >section that > >also allows for variable cartridge loading. > > > >All of these pieces are superbly built and look fantastic as well... they > >are truly > >the finest offering from the company and worthy of inclusion along with the > >best > >associated equipment available! > > > >I'm looking to get around $1800 for the set which is actually less than the > >current > >Blue Book value for the amp alone. I might also consider breaking up the > >set if > >someone really wants just one or two of the pieces. I should also mention > >that > >extensive references are available upon request. > > > >Regards, > >Ed > > > > > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > >resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 7 Sep 1999 22:20:57 -0700 > From: "Andrew Smith" > Subject: [naktalk] 581 Info needed > > Hi everybody. I am apparently about to get my filthy sweat stained hands on > a NAK 581z, and I am excited. So, can ya'll give me the general opinions on > this deck. The only other Nak I have heard is my BX-1, which I think sounds > incredible. I imagine I will be pleased with a 3 head deck then. Also, if > anyone has pdf files of the manual for either the 581z of BX-1 could I be > directed to them? Thanks ya'll. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:27:56 +1000 > From: mdhjwh > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade > > brian winans wrote: > ..>but why in the HELL would you even bother upgrading > a tonearm for a Kenwood 'table?< > > Whilst admitting that installing an RB300 will give some > benefit it is not going to reveal anything of how good this > arm can sound. > As this table has somewhat of a cult status amongst "scratch > artists" I wonder what your major use of it will be? > John H > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 15:30:33 +1000 > From: mdhjwh > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade > > Graham Nelson wrote:the motor is far superior and much more > stable especially if fed a near-perfect current (which I do from a > "virtual battery") > > Could you tell us something of your "virtual battery" > John H > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 06:12:29 +0300 > From: M T > Subject: [naktalk] just thinking > > - --------------D8E38052346163A400E64339 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=x-user-defined > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > hey, brothers in naks, > what would you say about the idea of replacing the rec/play head > in the two-head machines with a discrete head? just the head. > wouldn't it improve the recording&playing characteristics > of the deck? > seems logical to me, but what the qualified specialists are thinking > about that ??? > > in this possibly happy context, what opinions do you have about > the "famous" thin-film "amorphous Z" head by Technics (AZ-6, AZ-7 > decks), eh? > > how about that? > best, > > marin. > > - --------------D8E38052346163A400E64339 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=x-user-defined > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > hey, brothers in naks, >
what would you say about the idea of replacing the rec/play head >
in the two-head machines with a discrete head? just the head. >
wouldn't it improve the recording&playing characteristics >
of the deck? >
seems logical to me, but what the qualified specialists are thinking > about that ??? > >

in this possibly happy context, what opinions do you have about >
the "famous" thin-film "amorphous Z" head by Technics (AZ-6, AZ-7 > decks), eh? > >

how about that? >
best, > >

marin. > > - --------------D8E38052346163A400E64339-- > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > End of naktalk-digest V1 #32 > **************************** ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mature at owh.moldnet.md Fri Sep 3 08:26:25 1999 From: mature at owh.moldnet.md (M T) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 09:26:25 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] rethinking: just thinking References: Message-ID: <37CF6A10.D178AD84@owh.moldnet.md> > >>Marin, > > If you did this, you'd only be able to record OR play. You'd have > >to choose which function you wanted most, since the discrete heads only > >perform one specialized duty. Since you'd decrease the deck's usefulness > >by limiting what it can do, it doesn't really sound like a good idea. > >Actually, I'm not even sure such a thing is possible. > > > > Tom< > > > >the electrical characteristics of different heads are different and the > >compensation circuitry would be all wrong. i don't think anything would > >melt or anything like that, but it would be equivalent to swapping speaker > >drivers between widely different models of a brand of speakers. > > > >Herb.... ok okif Tom's answer did not satisfied me completely (each head can be wired separately from the source of the signal, so that would double the number of wires, but would not mix the rec/play signals...), then herb's point seems to cut my idea's wings. i supposed that there could be some problems- all looked too simple to be true... that's why i asked. subject closed? ciao, marin. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garcia at tusa.org Wed Sep 8 17:31:27 1999 From: garcia at tusa.org (Bill Roehl) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 11:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #32 re turntable upgrade In-Reply-To: <37D6677D.8B213A0C@iconn.net> Message-ID: > Here's a simple tip. If you have something to say to anyone that will not be of general > interest to this group, e.g. insults, simply direct it to that person only and leave the > rest of us out of the loop. also, how bought not quoting the ENTIRE text of the digest ;-) but a good point Jim. There is no need for us to hear all your bs. Just reply to the single author. - Bill - email - garcia at tusa.org http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org icq - 11398156 I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up with her shit. * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Sep 8 19:05:11 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 18:05:11 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade In-Reply-To: <37D5F479.A4FF99CC@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <000501befa1c$619f2300$05000006@p4v56> Heck! I wish I could tell you more about my "virtual battery"! It's in a sealed black metal box. The thing was made by a UK outfit who went by the name of Radar Electronics. They also made a hi fi grade mains purifier and a filter to take out the rough edges of CD's without degrading the upper frquencies. Unfortunately, they went out of business. I presume it must have a damned big capacitor ... a bit like in electronic flash guns, that holds a current back and then releases it. (Evidently, I'm not a "techi" ... sorry guys!) Anyway, the sales leaflet likened the device to a water reservoir into which current may flow from the mains at its usual variable rates but be discharged in a controlled and consistant way. I put two of these black boxes in line and found the result was the dynamics of the system suffered greatly. However, when I put them in parallel, it did a grand job especially in reducing wow and flutter. Now, my 20 year old Aiwa cassette deck (I'll wash my mouth out with carbolic for mentioning it!)records and plays back piano very nicely indeed. (However, my brother scoffed at this Aiwa purchase - £8 at a boot sale, and another £35 for a good service) but when he played back a BASF Chrome recording on his mega buck Nak, he was amazed at how good the recording was. In his words ("It's superb - I hardly had to tweak the azimuth ..." which, I can tell you, is praise indeed coming from his lips!) Incidently, I tried a similar component to my "virtual battery" - a computer back-up power device that contains a real battery - and that worked quite well, too. However, I also found even with this that the dynamics of the system seemed to me flattened. (The darned cooling fan didn't help much either ...) An engineer told me that, in this case, it was likely the kit was producing a square sine wave of current, not a pure source, which could explain the phenomena. ("Oh really?" said I, not understanding a darned word! If anyone can explain this in layman's terms ...) Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > mdhjwh > Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 06:31 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade > > > > > Graham Nelson wrote:the motor is far superior and much more > stable especially if fed a near-perfect current (which I do from a > "virtual battery") > > Could you tell us something of your "virtual battery" > John H > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Wed Sep 8 19:40:41 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:40:41 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] any ideas for new list(s) Message-ID: <37D69F99.7C3C7EB4@xs4all.nl> Since the recent turntable mail there may be a need for other mailing lists I guess... If you have good ideas let me know the I'll see what I can do. Any Philips cd-player enthusiasts out there? Wouter ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bilner at aol.com Wed Sep 8 20:12:47 1999 From: bilner at aol.com (bilner at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 14:12:47 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Nak list etiquette Message-ID: Would some of you please learn how to use your computers and stop re-copying the entire previous digest in your post when you hit your "reply" key?! Bill ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From warren2 at gate.net Wed Sep 8 21:28:36 1999 From: warren2 at gate.net (Warren Tremain) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:28:36 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade battery supply References: <000501befa1c$619f2300$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <009f01befa30$64f059c0$efee24cf@warren2> ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Nelson To: Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 1:05 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade > Incidently, I tried a similar component to my "virtual battery" - a computer > back-up power device that contains a real battery - and that worked quite > well, too. However, I also found even with this that the dynamics of the > system seemed to me flattened. (The darned cooling fan didn't help much > either ...) An engineer told me that, in this case, it was likely the kit > was producing a square sine wave of current, not a pure source, which could > explain the phenomena. ("Oh really?" said I, not understanding a darned > word! If anyone can explain this in layman's terms ...) > > Graham > Depending on the type pf ups used you will get a different AC output the cheaper ones just charge the battery and send the AC on through to your computer or stereo component. The better ones ( read much more money) Actually create a pure sinewave output which protects your computer from A/c junk and will make your audio components sound better. With a large UPS designed for a server you could run your Nak Dragon of the battery for an hour or so allowing you to record or playback with better sound quality. Speaking of tweaks has anybody used the brightstar sand boxes on their cassette deck? I use one with my turntable and it helps a lot. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Sep 8 21:02:36 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 20:02:36 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nak list etiquette In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601befa31$1fb74ac0$05000006@p4v56> Sorry, Bill - but some of us are too busy playing with our Nak's to be bothered about computers! #:¬#)# (Self portrait) Graham > - > Would some of you please learn how to use your computers and > stop re-copying > the entire previous digest in your post when you hit your > "reply" key?! > > Bill ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Wed Sep 8 21:59:34 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:59:34 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Cleaning closet... RM-100 Message-ID: <003901befa34$ac9d83c0$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> A while back I bought an RM-100 wired remote, thinking somehow that it would work with my Nak 582. Of course, it didn't; the RM-100 is for the 480 series, and maybe others, I don't know. Anyway, it's in a box, and ready to go for a quick $30. That includes shipping anywhere in the U.S., but if you want it to cross an ocean or something, it'll cost ya! David ddrucker at stny.rr.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From TRANSPLATA at aol.com Wed Sep 8 22:05:52 1999 From: TRANSPLATA at aol.com (TRANSPLATA at aol.com) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:05:52 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Cleaning closet... RM-100 Message-ID: <34f4c6ca.25081ba0@aol.com> I like to purchase that remote. My phone is 310 397-0341 Thanks Jean-Pierre ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Sep 8 22:04:30 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 21:04:30 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade battery supply In-Reply-To: <009f01befa30$64f059c0$efee24cf@warren2> Message-ID: <000901befa35$9a1487c0$05000006@p4v56> What is a Brightstar sand box? Is it something like those heavy, metal (usually encased in wood) "flux dumpers"? (Rather than pay silly money for a flux dumper I used a pack of 6" steel nails placed, straight from the hardware store, onto my amplifier above the transformer, which draws the nasty magentic field nicely out of harms way ... and everything sounds all the sweeter for it ... at least, that's what my ear tells me ... but then, one is sometimes want to hear what one wants to hear, isn't one!!! Graham ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jeidbo at toolcity.net Wed Sep 8 21:57:23 1999 From: jeidbo at toolcity.net (Joel Eidbo) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 15:57:23 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Cleaning closet... RM-100 Message-ID: <199909082013.QAA28943@wrench.toolcity.net> i would be interested in the remote if still available. thanks joel ---------- > From: David Drucker > To: Nak List > Subject: [naktalk] Cleaning closet... RM-100 > Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 3:59 PM > > A while back I bought an RM-100 wired remote, thinking somehow that it would > work with my Nak 582. Of course, it didn't; the RM-100 is for the 480 > series, and maybe others, I don't know. > Anyway, it's in a box, and ready to go for a quick $30. That includes > shipping anywhere in the U.S., but if you want it to cross an ocean or > something, it'll cost ya! > David > ddrucker at stny.rr.com > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Wed Sep 8 22:35:27 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 16:35:27 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Cleaning closet... RM-100 References: <199909082013.QAA28943@wrench.toolcity.net> Message-ID: <00ca01befa39$afb97780$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> Sorry Joel, but Jean-Pierre beat you by twelve minutes. David ----- Original Message ----- From: Joel Eidbo To: Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Cleaning closet... RM-100 > i would be interested in the remote if still available. thanks joel > > ---------- > > From: David Drucker > > To: Nak List > > Subject: [naktalk] Cleaning closet... RM-100 > > Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 3:59 PM > > > > A while back I bought an RM-100 wired remote, thinking somehow that it > would > > work with my Nak 582. Of course, it didn't; the RM-100 is for the 480 > > series, and maybe others, I don't know. > > Anyway, it's in a box, and ready to go for a quick $30. That includes > > shipping anywhere in the U.S., but if you want it to cross an ocean or > > something, it'll cost ya! > > David > > ddrucker at stny.rr.com > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From sir_stewart at hotmail.com Thu Sep 9 01:16:55 1999 From: sir_stewart at hotmail.com (mick s) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 16:16:55 PDT Subject: [naktalk] 581 / 582 Info needed Message-ID: <19990908231655.4688.qmail@hotmail.com> Andrew, Even though the 581 / 582 is a great deck, it has a latent defect ... the plastic mechanism that opens the cassette door is its Achille's heel ... this mechanism will ultimately break and there are no replacement mechanisms to be found anywhere in the world! Michael ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From brianwinans at hotmail.com Thu Sep 9 04:20:34 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:20:34 PDT Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade Message-ID: <19990909022034.32148.qmail@hotmail.com> Thanks Tom, Hey, I didn't mean to be rude in my last notice, and if I offended anyone I am really sorry. I didn't know that Kenwood EVER made high quaility electronics, especially 'tables. I guess if you can replace a Kenwood tonearm, then by all means go for it. It just makes more sense to me to buy a really good 'table in the first place, then buy a really good arm. By the way since this Naktalk, whatever happened to the Nak 'tables? Does anybody know the story? I realize they probaby went out with records, but I am just curious. Brian >From: Tom Bergman >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >CC: captain at bestweb.net >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade >Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 18:05:43 -0500 > >Brian > I don't know the Kenwood KD-550, but there was a Kenwood KD-500 >that was pretty highly regarded by audiophiles in the early eighties. >It was an armless table with a STONE base that was as solidly built as >it was attractive. I heard this stone base gave it excellent isolation >characteristics. I saw them set up at a couple of high-end places with >nice arms and cartridges. Maybe the 550 is a later version. > > Tom >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From brianwinans at hotmail.com Thu Sep 9 04:28:18 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 19:28:18 PDT Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree Message-ID: <19990909022819.49362.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey Carlos, I would be very interested. I mainly trade Grateful Dead tapes, any other Dead traders out there e-mail me. brianwinans at hotmail.com Brian >From: "Carlos" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: >Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree >Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 09:22:08 -0400 > >Hello fellow Nakies: > >Mr. Blues and me just begun a Nak Tree music sharing relationship. If >anyone >out there is interested, please let us know. All kind of music genres >accepted. For further information and "rules", e.mail me. > >Best, > >Carlos > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From warren2 at gate.net Thu Sep 9 05:55:05 1999 From: warren2 at gate.net (Warren Tremain) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:55:05 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade battery supply References: <000901befa35$9a1487c0$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <017601befa77$1c7a9380$efee24cf@warren2> ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Nelson To: Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 4:04 PM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade battery supply > What is a Brightstar sand box? Is it something like those heavy, metal > (usually encased in wood) "flux dumpers"? no they're not that expensive, basically they are a box, covered in an anti-resonant paint that you fill with sand. the top also fairly dead rests on the sand. It cuts down on the transmission of vibrations to the turntable or cassette deck. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From brianwinans at hotmail.com Thu Sep 9 06:26:08 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 1999 21:26:08 PDT Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade battery supply Message-ID: <19990909042609.14839.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey Graham, Where do you find those sandboxes? Or is it something you can make yourself? Brian >From: "Warren Tremain" >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade battery supply >Date: Wed, 8 Sep 1999 23:55:05 -0400 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Graham Nelson >To: >Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 4:04 PM >Subject: RE: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade battery supply > > > > What is a Brightstar sand box? Is it something like those heavy, metal > > (usually encased in wood) "flux dumpers"? > >no they're not that expensive, basically they are a box, covered in an >anti-resonant paint that you fill with sand. the top also fairly dead rests >on >the sand. It cuts down >on the transmission of vibrations to the turntable or cassette deck. > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Thu Sep 9 09:02:53 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 10:02:53 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] any ideas for new list(s) References: <37D69F99.7C3C7EB4@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <006901befa91$577463c0$131032d4@infosysbank.com> Well, Wouter, I guess owning a Nak(s) does presume you are an audiophile in general - I personally wouldn't mind firsthand learning more about equipment I tend to see and read about only in hi-fi mags, given the place where I live. Maybe we could try starting out with a short description of what everyone has in their system apart from the Nak(s) and go from there, as long as it doesn't turn into schoolyard stuff along the lines of "mine is bigger than yours", etc. IMHO, the danger of that is negligible, at least based on my relatively short observations of communication on the list. If not that many people are interested, feel free to scrap the idea - I wouldn't mind at all. As for Philips CD-players - you hit the right spot with me. "Unfortunately", I have found them so good that I've had to own only two so far - a "baby" one in my teens (I can't remember the exact model, but it was narrower than the standard 42cm, maybe because it was sold as an add-on for a midi-system) and now for the last 8 years I have the 850 Mk II. I have yet to hear a better sounding CD-player - within the price range, of course. It's very possible that a two-box Wadia or Meridian or other, costing several thousand dollars, may sound better, but somehow I don't think the difference will be worth paying the equivalent of what a car would cost. Rock solid transport, which, I'm sorry to say, is classes better than the Nak MB-1 which I tried to like very hard, but in the end gave to a fellow Nakmaniac, for whom the brand was more important than the sound. It looks like I ran off a bit, but everyone has his weak moments. I'd appreciate hearing from the other guys on both topics. George ----- Original Message ----- From: Wouter Heijke To: Sent: 08 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 20:40 Subject: [naktalk] any ideas for new list(s) > Since the recent turntable mail there may be a need for other mailing > lists I guess... > If you have good ideas let me know the I'll see what I can do. > > Any Philips cd-player enthusiasts out there? > > Wouter > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Thu Sep 9 15:38:34 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 08:38:34 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade References: <19990909022034.32148.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <37D7B85A.218D@bestweb.net> Brian, I wasn't offended, as the Kenwood in question wasn't mine. It IS important to realize that all brands, even so-called "midfi" ones, produce their share of high quality, respectable equipment, despite what one is told by snotty audio "know-it-alls," a sub-culture I despise. Nak no longer makes turntables as far as I know, but that Dragon CT they made in the 80's was a honey. There's one for sale at eBay right now. Check it out, as there are some great picks of the unit accompanying the auction. I downloaded all of them. You'll never get a better look at one unless you win the auction and end up owning one. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From GRobbins at arn.com Thu Sep 9 21:42:02 1999 From: GRobbins at arn.com (Robbins, Geoff) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 15:42:02 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade Message-ID: <943371E094D7D211BC2D0008C7C9CBFD14C078@MAIL1> Does anyone know where to purchase the new DR-8 or DR-10 for the lowest price? Thanks, Geoff Robbins > ---------- > From: Tom Bergman > Reply To: naktalk at naks.com > Sent: Thursday, September 9, 1999 9:38 AM > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: captain at bestweb.net > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade > > Brian, > I wasn't offended, as the Kenwood in question wasn't mine. It IS > important to realize that all brands, even so-called "midfi" ones, > produce their share of high quality, respectable equipment, despite what > one is told by snotty audio "know-it-alls," a sub-culture I despise. > Nak no longer makes turntables as far as I know, but that Dragon CT they > made in the 80's was a honey. There's one for sale at eBay right now. > Check it out, as there are some great picks of the unit accompanying the > auction. I downloaded all of them. You'll never get a better look at > one unless you win the auction and end up owning one. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Davin_Clem at mail.sel.sony.com Thu Sep 9 19:32:25 1999 From: Davin_Clem at mail.sel.sony.com (Davin Clem) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 12:32:25 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] any ideas for new list(s) Message-ID: <0043FF60.4532@mail.sel.sony.com> Hello I would like to add something about CD players. I have a very nice sounding Nakamichi OMS-7 which has the Nakamichi 20 bit D/A chip. I have gone from not really liking the CD format to being able for the first time to forget what medium I was listening to. This is similar to the good old days when I could get a nice Promotional copy of the latest album and play it back on my turntable. I like the sound of multibit DA's and the Nakamichi has tons of fat bass. Fellow Nakfile ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Re: [naktalk] any ideas for new list(s) Author: naktalk at naks.com at SONYCOM Date: 9/9/99 10:02 AM Well, Wouter, I guess owning a Nak(s) does presume you are an audiophile in general - I personally wouldn't mind firsthand learning more about equipment I tend to see and read about only in hi-fi mags, given the place where I live. Maybe we could try starting out with a short description of what everyone has in their system apart from the Nak(s) and go from there, as long as it doesn't turn into schoolyard stuff along the lines of "mine is bigger than yours", etc. IMHO, the danger of that is negligible, at least based on my relatively short observations of communication on the list. If not that many people are interested, feel free to scrap the idea - I wouldn't mind at all. As for Philips CD-players - you hit the right spot with me. "Unfortunately", I have found them so good that I've had to own only two so far - a "baby" one in my teens (I can't remember the exact model, but it was narrower than the standard 42cm, maybe because it was sold as an add-on for a midi-system) and now for the last 8 years I have the 850 Mk II. I have yet to hear a better sounding CD-player - within the price range, of course. It's very possible that a two-box Wadia or Meridian or other, costing several thousand dollars, may sound better, but somehow I don't think the difference will be worth paying the equivalent of what a car would cost. Rock solid transport, which, I'm sorry to say, is classes better than the Nak MB-1 which I tried to like very hard, but in the end gave to a fellow Nakmaniac, for whom the brand was more important than the sound. It looks like I ran off a bit, but everyone has his weak moments. I'd appreciate hearing from the other guys on both topics. George ----- Original Message ----- From: Wouter Heijke To: Sent: 08 �������d� 1999 a. 20:40 Subject: [naktalk] any ideas for new list(s) > Since the recent turntable mail there may be a need for other mailing > lists I guess... > If you have good ideas let me know the I'll see what I can do. > > Any Philips cd-player enthusiasts out there? > > Wouter > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== === naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== === ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From rand at giantstudios.com Thu Sep 9 23:57:15 1999 From: rand at giantstudios.com (Rand) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 16:57:15 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #35 Message-ID: <199909092024.QAA22381@ns1.gaiatech.com> Does anyone know of a source for the Nak line that was sold through Best Buy? I am building a second system around a lil' NAD amp and a thought one of Naks 5 disk changers for cheap would be a good fit. Also, their car stereo line. Can't justify the cash for the premier Nak mobile audio line. Thanks for the information. Later, Rand -- Rand Cabus Director of Marketing Giant Studios 404.659.6611 (o) 404.386.1308 (c) rand at giantstudios.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Sep 9 23:10:26 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 17:10:26 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree Message-ID: <003501befb07$bd528fc0$6f2f2ac4@coqui.net> Ladies & Gentlemen: Due to the amazing response concerning the Nak Tree debut, I'll be preparing a document in * word * to be publish on the list. In there, you'll find the rules and etiquettes. This is not a * live recordings * exchange but those who want to share with us any concerts, would be welcome too. At this time, we're thinking in pre-recorded music only involving most of the genres with specific interest in Blues, Jazz, R&B, Rock and Salsa. It can be new or old music and etc ... More on the list later, Best to all, Carlos * The Tape Man * ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Fri Sep 10 00:48:53 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 18:48:53 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Cleaning closet... RM-100 References: <199909082013.QAA28943@wrench.toolcity.net> Message-ID: <019001befb15$7e716c00$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> Sorry, it's gone. david ----- Original Message ----- From: Joel Eidbo To: Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Cleaning closet... RM-100 > i would be interested in the remote if still available. thanks joel > > ---------- > > From: David Drucker > > To: Nak List > > Subject: [naktalk] Cleaning closet... RM-100 > > Date: Wednesday, September 08, 1999 3:59 PM > > > > A while back I bought an RM-100 wired remote, thinking somehow that it > would > > work with my Nak 582. Of course, it didn't; the RM-100 is for the 480 > > series, and maybe others, I don't know. > > Anyway, it's in a box, and ready to go for a quick $30. That includes > > shipping anywhere in the U.S., but if you want it to cross an ocean or > > something, it'll cost ya! > > David > > ddrucker at stny.rr.com > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From pops at pop.cme.com Fri Sep 10 05:07:46 1999 From: pops at pop.cme.com (Mark Papadopoulos) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 1999 22:07:46 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] More Dragons? Message-ID: <37D875FF.D609226A@cme.com> Referring to Tom Bergman's letter in NakDig #35: Not only is there a Dragon turntable for sale on eBay, but also a Dragon CD player (looked like seperate transport, DAC, and power supply). Can anyone tell me more about these components? When they were made, how they sounded, etc. Did Nak make a complete Dragon line including amp, tuner ...? Thanks. Mark Papadopoulos Chicago ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Fri Sep 10 10:37:23 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:37:23 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] any ideas for new list(s) References: <37D69F99.7C3C7EB4@xs4all.nl> <006901befa91$577463c0$131032d4@infosysbank.com> Message-ID: <37D8C342.137B9FD3@ozemail.com.au> Well you almost had me exposing my analogue front end in public - until you came up with >"appreciate hearing from the other guys "< Us woman and faggots get nervous around too many 'guys' .So nervous , in fact , that I couldn't even flash my Grado, VanDenHul or Koetsu at you. Kissy Kissy Aunt Joan. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Fri Sep 10 20:40:51 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:40:51 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Aunty Joan In-Reply-To: <37D8C342.137B9FD3@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <000601befbbc$478b7da0$05000006@p4v56> Aunt Joan? I like it! Visions of crocheting to the super sounds of a Koetsu and Aunt Joan saying, "Ooooh! That transient was SOOO good I missed a stitch!" Any takers for starting an Analogue-Aunt Joan Fan Club? Graham > > Well you almost had me exposing my analogue front end > in public - until you came up with >"appreciate hearing from > the other guys "< > Us woman and faggots get nervous around too many > 'guys' .So nervous , in fact , that I couldn't even flash my > Grado, VanDenHul or Koetsu at you. > Kissy Kissy > Aunt Joan. > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From TRANSPLATA at aol.com Fri Sep 10 20:59:21 1999 From: TRANSPLATA at aol.com (TRANSPLATA at aol.com) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:59:21 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Cleaning closet... RM-100 Message-ID: <2de2d46a.250aaf09@aol.com> To all I am listing a Nakamichi 1000 Tri Tracer on ebay. Happy bidding. Starts at $199.00 JP ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From rguzzey at stny.rr.com Fri Sep 10 21:49:44 1999 From: rguzzey at stny.rr.com (Rick Guzzey) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:49:44 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Nak CR-3A tape deck remote question Message-ID: <003b01befbc5$a1584bc0$c4285e18@stny.rr.com> If these questions are inapropriate for this forum. I apologize. Please point me in the right direction. Anyone shed the "real light" on what remote works with a CR-3A? And why the remote for an AV-2 won't? And finally, are remotes still available for the CR series? Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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And finally, are remotes still available for the CR series? Any help would be really appreciated. Thanks -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From captain at bestweb.net Sat Sep 11 00:21:39 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:21:39 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nak CR-3A tape deck remote question References: <003b01befbc5$a1584bc0$c4285e18@stny.rr.com> Message-ID: <37D98473.54A7@bestweb.net> Rick, My RM-200 works with my CR-3A, as well as all of my other Naks. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Sat Sep 11 00:37:42 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:37:42 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade battery supply References: <000901befa35$9a1487c0$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <37D98836.28CC@bestweb.net> Hey Graham, After reading about your home amplifier remedy, I went to the hardware store and bought two pounds of 12-penny nails and placed them in a cardbord box right over my power amp's transformer. Total cost: $2.40! I just HAD to give it a try. I'll let you know if I hear any difference. I love discovering cost-effective tweaks that work just as well as the over-hyped and over-priced ones pushed on us by the high-end manufacturers. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Sat Sep 11 02:52:21 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:52:21 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade battery supply References: <000901befa35$9a1487c0$05000006@p4v56> <37D98836.28CC@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <37D9A7C5.1948C054@ozemail.com.au> >"I love discovering cost-effective tweaks that work just as well as the over-hyped and over-priced ones pushed on us by the high-end manufacturers."< Tom Bergman Hi Tom - - - Have a look at http://www.hi-fi.com/diy/tweaks/ John H -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Hail Fellow Nakamaniacs John H -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Sat Sep 11 06:53:03 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 14:53:03 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Aunty Joan References: <000601befbbc$478b7da0$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <37D9E02F.4E4BF267@ozemail.com.au> Hi Graham, My Koetsu has transient attack that is fast but dynamically restricted - no stitches get dropped. However I have a re-built Decca of considerable vintage that can scare the corsets off an old girl. Unfortunately it has vicious habits when dealing with vinyl grooves. Now the newer moving coils( out of my price range) do everything better than we anyone imagined possible. Why is it that a technology is perfected after it's death throws? This reminds me of the fact that on my Dragon I can tell if a recording was made on a particular cartridge with ease. I can also smell a nasty digital front end (although tape does seem to me to have a habit of rounding off digital nasties.) A euphonic distortion no doubt - but at times a useful defense against sundry bad recordings. Greetings of Fellow Nakamaniacs Aunt Joan Graham Nelson wrote: > Aunt Joan? > > I like it! Visions of crocheting to the super sounds of a Koetsu and Aunt > Joan saying, "Ooooh! That transient was SOOO good I missed a stitch!" > > Any takers for starting an Analogue-Aunt Joan Fan Club? > > Graham > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Sat Sep 11 17:36:34 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:36:34 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Tweaks Website References: <000901befa35$9a1487c0$05000006@p4v56> <37D98836.28CC@bestweb.net> <37D9A7C5.1948C054@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <37DA7702.5F3F@bestweb.net> John, I had a look this morning. VEDDY INTERESTING! Unhappy Balls here I come! Thanks, Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Sep 11 20:47:52 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:47:52 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Tales for Aunt Joan (and anyone else who wants to read 'em) In-Reply-To: <37D9E02F.4E4BF267@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <000601befc86$6acba220$05000006@p4v56> Aunt Joan! Hi there! The old Decca has vicious habits, huh? Hmmm... I've heard that said in the UK hi fi press of the old Decca London cartridges, something along the lines of (read in cockney accent, please) "It don't 'alf make bloomin' great music but ... gawd blimey! It digs out blinkin' great lumps of vinyl from the record grooves! First time I played me Glenn Miller record it sounded flamin' marvellous but it was never the same again after that ..." (I had an old direct drive Sony deck and stylus that used to do that, too.) As you say, the technology seems to have been perfected too late! On the other hand, in the UK we keep seeing new record decks coming onto the market. So, the old vinyl spinners ain't dead yet, altho' getting new black stuff to play on them isn't so easy except by mail order or the Internet. However, car boot sales are a great source for second hand records at extremely good prices. These days I rarely have to pay more than a £1 for a record, more often 50p! In fact, since CD's have swept the records aside, my record collection has trebled, all comprising second hand vinyl mostly from car boot sales. I know what you mean about hearing the digital front end, although there's "digital" and there's "digital, I suppose, like there are good tape decks and bad ones. Have you heard the effect on digitally (re-)mastered vinyl, too? Dreadful! It's not that I'm anti digital but I have heard very few CD players that can dig out the same breadth of tonal shades that a good turntable can produce, and that a good tape deck can sometimes copy. However, there have been some exceptions, like my brother's bitstream Wadia. But the crowning glory (for me) was when we borrowed a Sony DAT machine (nothing special) to play on it a master (yes, master) tape given to us by Nicholai Panov, the great Russian jazz musician, which we acquired when we were preparing a one-off radio programme for Jazz FM (Manchester) on the Russian jazz scene. Oh, Heaven! I didn't know my fairly modest hi fi (Quad 44 and 405 amps with nearly 20 years old Tandberg speakers) was capable of producing such a performance! Panov also gave us some unwanted first generation copies on cheap cassettes ... and they sound great, too. Maybe not the "in-your-face" realism of the master DAT but better than you would normally expect of a very unextraordinary cassette. In fact they were so good we used one of them for the radio show ... However, the Producer had said we couldn't use anything from a standard audio cassette because "the quality won't be good enough"; so, we dubbed it off the cassette (from a 20 year old Aiwa AD 1800!) onto a DAT (the borrowed Sony again) and let him hear that instead. "DAT? Oh, that's fine, that's really great; we may enter this show for the Sony Awards..." said he. Ho! Ho! Sure fooled him! And he'd have heard an even better quality version if he'd bothered to listen to the humble cassette. Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > mdhjwh > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 05:53 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aunty Joan > > > Hi Graham, > > My Koetsu has transient attack that is fast but dynamically > restricted - no stitches get dropped. > However I have a re-built Decca of considerable vintage > that can scare the corsets off an old girl. Unfortunately it has > vicious habits when dealing with vinyl grooves. > Now the newer moving coils( out of my price range) > do everything better than we anyone imagined possible. > Why is it that a technology is perfected after it's death throws? > > This reminds me of the fact that on my Dragon I can tell > if a recording was made on a particular cartridge with ease. > I can also smell a nasty digital front end (although tape does > seem to me to have a habit of rounding off digital nasties.) > A euphonic distortion no doubt - but at times a useful > defense against sundry bad recordings. > > Greetings of Fellow Nakamaniacs > > Aunt Joan > Graham Nelson wrote: > > > Aunt Joan? > > > > I like it! Visions of crocheting to the super sounds of a > Koetsu and Aunt > > Joan saying, "Ooooh! That transient was SOOO good I missed > a stitch!" > > > > Any takers for starting an Analogue-Aunt Joan Fan Club? > > > > Graham > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Sat Sep 11 21:52:19 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 15:52:19 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #37 References: <199909111858.UAA16976@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <37DAB2F3.53BE3AAA@iconn.net> Hi: I am the proud owner of a Nak 550 on which I have been making field recordings for nearly 22 years and only now is the unit ready for an overhaul. Any of you have any tips on field recording: mic placement, mic selection, use of limiter, dolby (to use or not to use), etc. "Home" recording seems like a dead art. I feel like some kind of dinosaur with my hundreds of recordings of family, interviews, live music, parades, etc. (I make multiprojector slide based documentaries and have used the Nak for all my stuff) Perhaps I'm just looking for a journalistically inclined soul mate out there. I'm going on some cycling trips and want to bring a good field recorder, and my Nak is to big and heavy. Any suggestions on units that are durable, smallish and reasonably priced? Thanks, Jim naktalk-digest wrote: > naktalk-digest Saturday, September 11 1999 Volume 01 : Number 037 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:16:07 -0400 > From: "David Drucker" > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak CR-3A tape deck remote question > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > - ------=_NextPart_000_016D_01BEFBA7.C9E39CC0 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I can't speak to the first two questions, but know that = > Nakamichi/Torrance still sells CR remotes. The CR-7A remote (part number = > HA04956) is $81.93 plus shipping, from parts at nakamichi.com. 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> > - ------=_NextPart_000_016D_01BEFBA7.C9E39CC0-- > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:21:39 -0500 > From: Tom Bergman > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak CR-3A tape deck remote question > > Rick, > My RM-200 works with my CR-3A, as well as all of my other Naks. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:37:42 -0500 > From: Tom Bergman > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade battery supply > > Hey Graham, > After reading about your home amplifier remedy, I went to the > hardware store and bought two pounds of 12-penny nails and placed them > in a cardbord box right over my power amp's transformer. Total cost: > $2.40! I just HAD to give it a try. I'll let you know if I hear any > difference. I love discovering cost-effective tweaks that work just as > well as the over-hyped and over-priced ones pushed on us by the high-end > manufacturers. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:52:21 +1000 > From: mdhjwh > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: Turntable Upgrade battery supply > > - --------------EF12DAAB88CCE03CFD4A2C8A > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > >"I love discovering cost-effective tweaks that work just as > well as the over-hyped and over-priced ones pushed on us by the high-end > manufacturers."< > > Tom Bergman > > Hi Tom - - - Have a look at http://www.hi-fi.com/diy/tweaks/ > > John H > > - --------------EF12DAAB88CCE03CFD4A2C8A > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > >"I love discovering cost-effective tweaks that work just as >
well as the over-hyped and over-priced ones pushed on us by the high-end >
manufacturers."< >

                                 > Tom Bergman >
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Hi Tom  - - - Have a look at http://www.hi-fi.com/diy/tweaks/ >

John H > > - --------------EF12DAAB88CCE03CFD4A2C8A-- > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:27:52 +1000 > From: mdhjwh > Subject: Re: [naktalk] More Dragons? > > - --------------377C74A4B4757BBF7AEC18D0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Having owned the entire "Dragon " line for a brief and unhappy > period I can say that ( to my ears) only the cassette deck is worth > considering - unless, like some collectors, the name and cosmetics > are your turn on ? > As I am loathe to make any substantial investment in digital technology, > until the digital format wars die down, I'm happily running a Rotel 971 > CD player. > I suspect that if we survive into the next century I will be investing > heavily in whatever high end format succeeds. (94mghz recordable DVD?) > What I am really drooling about though, is the rumor of two new > Nakamichi analogue cassette decks about to be released. > The rumor also has if that they have onboard digital indexing and > search logic ! ! ! ! > > Hail Fellow Nakamaniacs > > John H > > - --------------377C74A4B4757BBF7AEC18D0 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > > > Having owned the entire "Dragon " line for a brief and unhappy >
period I can say that ( to my ears) only the cassette deck is worth >
considering - unless, like some collectors, the name and cosmetics >
are your turn on ? >
As I am loathe to make any substantial investment in digital technology, >
until the digital format wars die down, I'm happily running a Rotel > 971 >
CD player. >
I suspect that if we survive into the next century I will be investing >
heavily in whatever high end format succeeds. (94mghz recordable DVD?) >
What I am really drooling about though, is the rumor of two new >
Nakamichi analogue cassette decks about to be released. >
The rumor also has if that they have onboard digital indexing and >
search logic ! ! ! ! >

Hail Fellow Nakamaniacs >

John H >
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  > > - --------------377C74A4B4757BBF7AEC18D0-- > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 14:53:03 +1000 > From: mdhjwh > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aunty Joan > > Hi Graham, > > My Koetsu has transient attack that is fast but dynamically > restricted - no stitches get dropped. > However I have a re-built Decca of considerable vintage > that can scare the corsets off an old girl. Unfortunately it has > vicious habits when dealing with vinyl grooves. > Now the newer moving coils( out of my price range) > do everything better than we anyone imagined possible. > Why is it that a technology is perfected after it's death throws? > > This reminds me of the fact that on my Dragon I can tell > if a recording was made on a particular cartridge with ease. > I can also smell a nasty digital front end (although tape does > seem to me to have a habit of rounding off digital nasties.) > A euphonic distortion no doubt - but at times a useful > defense against sundry bad recordings. > > Greetings of Fellow Nakamaniacs > > Aunt Joan > Graham Nelson wrote: > > > Aunt Joan? > > > > I like it! Visions of crocheting to the super sounds of a Koetsu and Aunt > > Joan saying, "Ooooh! That transient was SOOO good I missed a stitch!" > > > > Any takers for starting an Analogue-Aunt Joan Fan Club? > > > > Graham > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 10:36:34 -0500 > From: Tom Bergman > Subject: [naktalk] Tweaks Website > > John, > I had a look this morning. VEDDY INTERESTING! Unhappy Balls here > I come! > > Thanks, > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 19:47:52 +0100 > From: "Graham Nelson" > Subject: [naktalk] Tales for Aunt Joan (and anyone else who wants to read 'em) > > Aunt Joan! Hi there! > > The old Decca has vicious habits, huh? Hmmm... I've heard that said in the > UK hi fi press of the old Decca London cartridges, something along the lines > of (read in cockney accent, please) "It don't 'alf make bloomin' great music > but ... gawd blimey! It digs out blinkin' great lumps of vinyl from the > record grooves! First time I played me Glenn Miller record it sounded > flamin' marvellous but it was never the same again after that ..." (I had > an old direct drive Sony deck and stylus that used to do that, too.) > > As you say, the technology seems to have been perfected too late! On the > other hand, in the UK we keep seeing new record decks coming onto the > market. So, the old vinyl spinners ain't dead yet, altho' getting new black > stuff to play on them isn't so easy except by mail order or the Internet. > However, car boot sales are a great source for second hand records at > extremely good prices. These days I rarely have to pay more than a £1 for a > record, more often 50p! In fact, since CD's have swept the records aside, > my record collection has trebled, all comprising second hand vinyl mostly > from car boot sales. > > I know what you mean about hearing the digital front end, although there's > "digital" and there's "digital, I suppose, like there are good tape decks > and bad ones. Have you heard the effect on digitally (re-)mastered vinyl, > too? Dreadful! It's not that I'm anti digital but I have heard very few CD > players that can dig out the same breadth of tonal shades that a good > turntable can produce, and that a good tape deck can sometimes copy. > However, there have been some exceptions, like my brother's bitstream Wadia. > But the crowning glory (for me) was when we borrowed a Sony DAT machine > (nothing special) to play on it a master (yes, master) tape given to us by > Nicholai Panov, the great Russian jazz musician, which we acquired when we > were preparing a one-off radio programme for Jazz FM (Manchester) on the > Russian jazz scene. Oh, Heaven! I didn't know my fairly modest hi fi (Quad > 44 and 405 amps with nearly 20 years old Tandberg speakers) was capable of > producing such a performance! > > Panov also gave us some unwanted first generation copies on cheap cassettes > ... and they sound great, too. Maybe not the "in-your-face" realism of the > master DAT but better than you would normally expect of a very > unextraordinary cassette. In fact they were so good we used one of them for > the radio show ... However, the Producer had said we couldn't use anything > from a standard audio cassette because "the quality won't be good enough"; > so, we dubbed it off the cassette (from a 20 year old Aiwa AD 1800!) onto a > DAT (the borrowed Sony again) and let him hear that instead. "DAT? Oh, > that's fine, that's really great; we may enter this show for the Sony > Awards..." said he. Ho! Ho! Sure fooled him! > > And he'd have heard an even better quality version if he'd bothered to > listen to the humble cassette. > > Graham > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > mdhjwh > > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 05:53 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Aunty Joan > > > > > > Hi Graham, > > > > My Koetsu has transient attack that is fast but dynamically > > restricted - no stitches get dropped. > > However I have a re-built Decca of considerable vintage > > that can scare the corsets off an old girl. Unfortunately it has > > vicious habits when dealing with vinyl grooves. > > Now the newer moving coils( out of my price range) > > do everything better than we anyone imagined possible. > > Why is it that a technology is perfected after it's death throws? > > > > This reminds me of the fact that on my Dragon I can tell > > if a recording was made on a particular cartridge with ease. > > I can also smell a nasty digital front end (although tape does > > seem to me to have a habit of rounding off digital nasties.) > > A euphonic distortion no doubt - but at times a useful > > defense against sundry bad recordings. > > > > Greetings of Fellow Nakamaniacs > > > > Aunt Joan > > Graham Nelson wrote: > > > > > Aunt Joan? > > > > > > I like it! Visions of crocheting to the super sounds of a > > Koetsu and Aunt > > > Joan saying, "Ooooh! That transient was SOOO good I missed > > a stitch!" > > > > > > Any takers for starting an Analogue-Aunt Joan Fan Club? > > > > > > Graham > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > > Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------========= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > End of naktalk-digest V1 #37 > **************************** ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sat Sep 11 22:26:03 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:26:03 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Small portable recorders In-Reply-To: <37DAB2F3.53BE3AAA@iconn.net> Message-ID: <000c01befc93$eef55480$05000006@p4v56> Jim Lightweight portable recorders? If it's mostly for speech, why not have a look at some portable Mini Disc machines? Or, if you want something slightly better, have a look at one of the battery operated Sony DAT machines. They seem a bit fiddly at first (as do the small mini disc recorders) but I'm sure you'd get used to it and you'd also find they make tasty recordings of music from your hi fi, too! (Not having a DAT at the moment, I am rather envious of those owners who can use their DAT's in Long Play to record long classical performances off the radio.) Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > James P. Brochin > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 08:52 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: naktalk-digest at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #37 > > > Hi: > > I am the proud owner of a Nak 550 on which I have been making > field recordings for nearly 22 years and only now is the unit > ready for an overhaul. Any of you have any tips on field > recording: mic > placement, mic selection, use of limiter, dolby (to use or > not to use), etc. "Home" recording seems like a dead art. I > feel like some kind of dinosaur with my hundreds of > recordings of family, > interviews, live music, parades, etc. (I make multiprojector > slide based documentaries and have used the Nak for all my > stuff) Perhaps I'm just looking for a journalistically > inclined soul mate out > there. > > I'm going on some cycling trips and want to bring a good > field recorder, and my Nak is to big and heavy. Any > suggestions on units that are durable, smallish and reasonably priced? > > Thanks, > > Jim > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From warren2 at gate.net Sat Sep 11 23:19:12 1999 From: warren2 at gate.net (Warren Tremain) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 17:19:12 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Tweaks Website References: <000901befa35$9a1487c0$05000006@p4v56> <37D98836.28CC@bestweb.net> <37D9A7C5.1948C054@ozemail.com.au> <37DA7702.5F3F@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <005701befc9b$53b42d40$17ee24cf@warren2> yes its an interesting web site but before you by the balls look at vibrapods they are only $6.00 each and come in different weight classes ( that is how much weight they will support) http://www.elusivedisc.com/vibrapod.html oh and they work very well ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Bergman To: Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 11:36 AM Subject: [naktalk] Tweaks Website > John, > I had a look this morning. VEDDY INTERESTING! Unhappy Balls here > I come! > > Thanks, > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== === > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== === > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bochar at epix.net Sun Sep 12 00:28:48 1999 From: bochar at epix.net (bob) Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:28:48 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 680 References: <37D3289E.ED74A9CD@epix.net> Message-ID: <37DAD7A0.433B6E6D@epix.net> bob wrote: > > Would like to hear of experiences with half-speed NAK decks. > only model was 680??? > none with dolby C? > little confused on this... > as good sound as CR-7A ? > I'm tempted to trade for the half-speed feature > but afraid might be more problems than it's worth.. > what do you think? > thanks > bob -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From mpatrick at voicenet.com Sun Sep 12 02:23:59 1999 From: mpatrick at voicenet.com (FabFourFan) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 00:23:59 GMT Subject: [naktalk] Small portable recorders In-Reply-To: <000c01befc93$eef55480$05000006@p4v56> References: <000c01befc93$eef55480$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <37daf17f.12612982@mail.voicenet.com> Recommendations for DAT and Mini (spit) Disk should be handled privately, rather than on the NakTalk mailing list, wouldn't you think? Thank you. Mike 'acting the analog ogre today' On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:26:03 +0100, you wrote: >Jim > >Lightweight portable recorders? If it's mostly for speech, why not have a >look at some portable Mini Disc machines? Or, if you want something >slightly better, have a look at one of the battery operated Sony DAT >machines. They seem a bit fiddly at first (as do the small mini disc >recorders) but I'm sure you'd get used to it and you'd also find they make >tasty recordings of music from your hi fi, too! (Not having a DAT at the >moment, I am rather envious of those owners who can use their DAT's in Long >Play to record long classical performances off the radio.) > >Graham > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-naktalk at naks.com >> [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of >> James P. Brochin >> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 08:52 >> To: naktalk at naks.com >> Cc: naktalk-digest at naks.com >> Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #37 >> >> >> Hi: >> >> I am the proud owner of a Nak 550 on which I have been making >> field recordings for nearly 22 years and only now is the unit >> ready for an overhaul. Any of you have any tips on field >> recording: mic >> placement, mic selection, use of limiter, dolby (to use or >> not to use), etc. "Home" recording seems like a dead art. I >> feel like some kind of dinosaur with my hundreds of >> recordings of family, >> interviews, live music, parades, etc. (I make multiprojector >> slide based documentaries and have used the Nak for all my >> stuff) Perhaps I'm just looking for a journalistically >> inclined soul mate out >> there. >> >> I'm going on some cycling trips and want to bring a good >> field recorder, and my Nak is to big and heavy. Any >> suggestions on units that are durable, smallish and reasonably priced? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jim ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Sun Sep 12 04:02:35 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:02:35 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Small portable recorders References: <000c01befc93$eef55480$05000006@p4v56> <37daf17f.12612982@mail.voicenet.com> Message-ID: <37DB09BB.895AD040@ozemail.com.au> FabFourFan wrote: > Recommendations for DAT and Mini (spit) Disk should be handled privately, > rather than on the NakTalk mailing list, wouldn't you think?< Couldn't agree more . What , however, is a 'Mini (spit)? Is this a comment upon the damage inflicted by data compression software upon music? I don't much like any of the MD's I have auditioned., but would love to have the ergonomic sanity of their indexing and labeling features on an analogue Nakamichi. My prayers may be answered with Nakamichis next analogue deck release. (supposedly before the Xmas season 1999) John H > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From winfried.schoepf at at.unisys.com Sun Sep 12 10:57:19 1999 From: winfried.schoepf at at.unisys.com (Schoepf, Winfried) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 03:57:19 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] 680 Message-ID: Bob, The 680ZX is the only half-speed deck I know of. Plus it has playback pitch control +- 6%. AT half speed it still does very good recordings, obviously with less high-end and less dynamics. Depends where your priorities are. Nakamichi recommends using only metal tape at half speed (680 user manual) After trying, I do not use it anymore but this only because the amount of recording I do does not justify the gained space (i.e. I do really little these days). One argument for me would be to fit an extra long performance on a single tape, but then where do you go ? You cannot trade these tapes, nor use them in your car. Regards Winfried -----Original Message----- From: bob [mailto:bochar at epix.net] Sent: Sonntag, 12. September 1999 00:29 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: Re: [naktalk] 680 bob wrote: > > Would like to hear of experiences with half-speed NAK decks. > only model was 680??? > none with dolby C? > little confused on this... > as good sound as CR-7A ? > I'm tempted to trade for the half-speed feature > but afraid might be more problems than it's worth.. > what do you think? > thanks > bob ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Sep 12 14:17:29 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:17:29 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Small portable recorders In-Reply-To: <37daf17f.12612982@mail.voicenet.com> Message-ID: <000101befd18$dc7eea20$05000006@p4v56> Chaps! Chaps! Chaps! (And Chappesses ... sorry there Aunt Joan .. forgot m'self for a moment...) One can't always answer questions privately if the originator's address is not apparent. Besides, isn't it a bity churlish to deny a brother some advice on a non-Nak related item when he is specifically seeking our advice because he respects this forum for its knowledge and expertise? Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > FabFourFan > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 01:24 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Small portable recorders > > > Recommendations for DAT and Mini (spit) Disk should be > handled privately, > rather than on the NakTalk mailing list, wouldn't you think? > > Thank you. > > > Mike 'acting the analog ogre today' > > > > > On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:26:03 +0100, you wrote: > > >Jim > > > >Lightweight portable recorders? If it's mostly for speech, > why not have a > >look at some portable Mini Disc machines? Or, if you want something > >slightly better, have a look at one of the battery operated Sony DAT > >machines. They seem a bit fiddly at first (as do the small mini disc > >recorders) but I'm sure you'd get used to it and you'd also > find they make > >tasty recordings of music from your hi fi, too! (Not having > a DAT at the > >moment, I am rather envious of those owners who can use > their DAT's in Long > >Play to record long classical performances off the radio.) > > > >Graham > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > >> [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > >> James P. Brochin > >> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 08:52 > >> To: naktalk at naks.com > >> Cc: naktalk-digest at naks.com > >> Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #37 > >> > >> > >> Hi: > >> > >> I am the proud owner of a Nak 550 on which I have been making > >> field recordings for nearly 22 years and only now is the unit > >> ready for an overhaul. Any of you have any tips on field > >> recording: mic > >> placement, mic selection, use of limiter, dolby (to use or > >> not to use), etc. "Home" recording seems like a dead art. I > >> feel like some kind of dinosaur with my hundreds of > >> recordings of family, > >> interviews, live music, parades, etc. (I make multiprojector > >> slide based documentaries and have used the Nak for all my > >> stuff) Perhaps I'm just looking for a journalistically > >> inclined soul mate out > >> there. > >> > >> I'm going on some cycling trips and want to bring a good > >> field recorder, and my Nak is to big and heavy. Any > >> suggestions on units that are durable, smallish and > reasonably priced? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Jim > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Sun Sep 12 14:26:59 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:26:59 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] Aunty Joan References: <000601befbbc$478b7da0$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <007701befd1a$1d4e4b80$141032d4@infosysbank.com> Hi Auntie ! Um, why are you mentioning VanDenHul amongst your analogue front-end ? I thought good cables work with digital too - :) George ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Nelson To: Sent: 10 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 21:40 Subject: [naktalk] Aunty Joan > Aunt Joan? > > I like it! Visions of crocheting to the super sounds of a Koetsu and Aunt > Joan saying, "Ooooh! That transient was SOOO good I missed a stitch!" > > Any takers for starting an Analogue-Aunt Joan Fan Club? > > Graham > > > > > Well you almost had me exposing my analogue front end > > in public - until you came up with >"appreciate hearing from > > the other guys "< > > Us woman and faggots get nervous around too many > > 'guys' .So nervous , in fact , that I couldn't even flash my > > Grado, VanDenHul or Koetsu at you. > > Kissy Kissy > > Aunt Joan. > > > > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > > Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From cjsfeng at sfu.ca Sun Sep 12 17:25:06 1999 From: cjsfeng at sfu.ca (Desmond Hidson) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 08:25:06 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Small portable recorders References: <000101befd18$dc7eea20$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <37DBC5CF.ED2A2FE8@sfu.ca> One should be using: rec.audio.pro rec.audio.opinion rec.audio.tech or even ... rec.audio.high-end and rec.audio.misc and there may be others more specifically related to sound recording and turntables too Cheers Desmond ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bilner at aol.com Sun Sep 12 18:20:52 1999 From: bilner at aol.com (bilner at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:20:52 EDT Subject: [naktalk] DAT info Message-ID: <738568a1.250d2ce4@aol.com> Anyone interested in everything you'd ever want to know about DAT is directed to: http://www.eklektix.com/dat-heads/ Bill ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From DJBrown96 at aol.com Mon Sep 13 00:37:53 1999 From: DJBrown96 at aol.com (DJBrown96 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 18:37:53 EDT Subject: [naktalk] 680 Message-ID: <91103225.250d8541@aol.com> Bob, I also have a 680 deck and very rarely use the half speed function. You lose to much headroom. Dennis ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From hofbroch at iconn.net Mon Sep 13 03:02:23 1999 From: hofbroch at iconn.net (James P. Brochin) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:02:23 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #39 References: <199909121226.OAA19318@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <37DC4D1F.6FAAFF45@iconn.net> Hey again: I'm the guy asking about portable recorders. I'm also the guy who thinks items not of general interest, e.g. insults, don't belong on Naktalk. And thanks, Graham Nelson, for your feedback and kind words. I do respect the group for its knowlege. I still much prefer analogue for field recording, and those sweet mic preamps on the 550 can't be beat for gettin' out there without power cables and a mixer. I once used the 550 and Dat portable side by side in the field and the Nak is much better. My own feeling about digital vs. analogue is simple: analogue is far superior at the original recording stage. Digital is best suited for a copying/cataloging medium. I use a Dat portable to "pre-edit" my uncut inventory into numbered "sound bites", but in any digital realm watch out for overmodulation. It is sneaky and once you're over forget the recording; digital screech is like nothing else. No nice features like the peak limiter on the 550. Please read my entire email on my Nak and field recording. I also asked the group about any advice on field recording, as I still use my trusty old 550 a lot for gathering sound for documentaries. Some people seem perturbed that I asked any advice about small field recorders. Those people probably never had a 550, known as the Deadhead's standard issue, for over 20 years. With batteries, it weighs about 25 pounds, and I was quite a sight trying to document a 20k road race on my bicycle. Damn near got myself killed. My partner in a documentary project used my 550 and had to have shoulder surgery! Nak made a 250 and 350, but these unfortunately could not be battery powered, though were smaller. I would still love to share advice, war stories, etc. with any folks out there who have owned the trusty 550 or other Nak decks and have done field recording. I still thinks anyone serious about recording in general would benefit. Don't forget, Nak made some classic decks with mic ins: 350, 500, 550, 600, 1000 (there may be others, too, but I don't know of them). Jim naktalk-digest wrote: > naktalk-digest Sunday, September 12 1999 Volume 01 : Number 039 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:26:03 +0100 > From: "Graham Nelson" > Subject: [naktalk] Small portable recorders > > Jim > > Lightweight portable recorders? If it's mostly for speech, why not have a > look at some portable Mini Disc machines? Or, if you want something > slightly better, have a look at one of the battery operated Sony DAT > machines. They seem a bit fiddly at first (as do the small mini disc > recorders) but I'm sure you'd get used to it and you'd also find they make > tasty recordings of music from your hi fi, too! (Not having a DAT at the > moment, I am rather envious of those owners who can use their DAT's in Long > Play to record long classical performances off the radio.) > > Graham > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > James P. Brochin > > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 08:52 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Cc: naktalk-digest at naks.com > > Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #37 > > > > > > Hi: > > > > I am the proud owner of a Nak 550 on which I have been making > > field recordings for nearly 22 years and only now is the unit > > ready for an overhaul. Any of you have any tips on field > > recording: mic > > placement, mic selection, use of limiter, dolby (to use or > > not to use), etc. "Home" recording seems like a dead art. I > > feel like some kind of dinosaur with my hundreds of > > recordings of family, > > interviews, live music, parades, etc. (I make multiprojector > > slide based documentaries and have used the Nak for all my > > stuff) Perhaps I'm just looking for a journalistically > > inclined soul mate out > > there. > > > > I'm going on some cycling trips and want to bring a good > > field recorder, and my Nak is to big and heavy. Any > > suggestions on units that are durable, smallish and reasonably priced? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jim > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 17:19:12 -0400 > From: "Warren Tremain" > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Tweaks Website > > yes its an interesting web site but > before you by the balls look at vibrapods > they are only $6.00 each and come in different weight > classes ( that is how much weight they will support) > > http://www.elusivedisc.com/vibrapod.html > > oh and they work very well > - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Bergman > To: > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 11:36 AM > Subject: [naktalk] Tweaks Website > > > John, > > I had a look this morning. VEDDY INTERESTING! Unhappy Balls here > > I come! > > > > Thanks, > > Tom > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== > === > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------====== > === > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 1999 18:28:48 -0400 > From: bob > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 680 > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > - --------------2ED129CD139550AD68374BD6 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > bob wrote: > > > > Would like to hear of experiences with half-speed NAK decks. > > only model was 680??? > > none with dolby C? > > little confused on this... > > as good sound as CR-7A ? > > I'm tempted to trade for the half-speed feature > > but afraid might be more problems than it's worth.. > > what do you think? > > thanks > > bob > - --------------2ED129CD139550AD68374BD6 > Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; > name="bochar.vcf" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Description: Card for bob > Content-Disposition: attachment; > filename="bochar.vcf" > > begin:vcard > n:charlanza;bob > tel;fax:610-775-9354 > tel;home:610-775-9354 > x-mozilla-html:FALSE > adr:version:2.1;;718 Loblolly Lane;Reading;PA;19607; > version:2.1 > email;internet:bochar at epix.net > fn:charlanza > end:vcard > > - --------------2ED129CD139550AD68374BD6-- > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 00:23:59 GMT > From: mpatrick at voicenet.com (FabFourFan) > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Small portable recorders > > Recommendations for DAT and Mini (spit) Disk should be handled privately, > rather than on the NakTalk mailing list, wouldn't you think? > > Thank you. > > Mike 'acting the analog ogre today' > > On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:26:03 +0100, you wrote: > > >Jim > > > >Lightweight portable recorders? If it's mostly for speech, why not have a > >look at some portable Mini Disc machines? Or, if you want something > >slightly better, have a look at one of the battery operated Sony DAT > >machines. They seem a bit fiddly at first (as do the small mini disc > >recorders) but I'm sure you'd get used to it and you'd also find they make > >tasty recordings of music from your hi fi, too! (Not having a DAT at the > >moment, I am rather envious of those owners who can use their DAT's in Long > >Play to record long classical performances off the radio.) > > > >Graham > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > >> [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > >> James P. Brochin > >> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 08:52 > >> To: naktalk at naks.com > >> Cc: naktalk-digest at naks.com > >> Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #37 > >> > >> > >> Hi: > >> > >> I am the proud owner of a Nak 550 on which I have been making > >> field recordings for nearly 22 years and only now is the unit > >> ready for an overhaul. Any of you have any tips on field > >> recording: mic > >> placement, mic selection, use of limiter, dolby (to use or > >> not to use), etc. "Home" recording seems like a dead art. I > >> feel like some kind of dinosaur with my hundreds of > >> recordings of family, > >> interviews, live music, parades, etc. (I make multiprojector > >> slide based documentaries and have used the Nak for all my > >> stuff) Perhaps I'm just looking for a journalistically > >> inclined soul mate out > >> there. > >> > >> I'm going on some cycling trips and want to bring a good > >> field recorder, and my Nak is to big and heavy. Any > >> suggestions on units that are durable, smallish and reasonably priced? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Jim > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:02:35 +1000 > From: mdhjwh > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Small portable recorders > > FabFourFan wrote: > > > Recommendations for DAT and Mini (spit) Disk should be handled privately, > > rather than on the NakTalk mailing list, wouldn't you think?< > > Couldn't agree more . What , however, is a 'Mini (spit)? > Is this a comment upon the damage inflicted by data compression > software upon music? > > I don't much like any of the MD's I have auditioned., but would > love to have the ergonomic sanity of their indexing and labeling > features on an analogue Nakamichi. > My prayers may be answered with Nakamichis next analogue > deck release. (supposedly before the Xmas season 1999) > > John H > > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 03:57:19 -0500 > From: "Schoepf, Winfried" > Subject: RE: [naktalk] 680 > > Bob, > > The 680ZX is the only half-speed deck I know of. Plus it has playback pitch > control +- 6%. AT half speed it still does very good recordings, obviously > with less high-end and less dynamics. Depends where your priorities are. > Nakamichi recommends using only metal tape at half speed (680 user manual) > After trying, I do not use it anymore but this only because the amount of > recording I do does not justify the gained space (i.e. I do really little > these days). > One argument for me would be to fit an extra long performance on a single > tape, but then where do you go ? You cannot trade these tapes, nor use them > in your car. > > Regards > Winfried > > - -----Original Message----- > From: bob [mailto:bochar at epix.net] > Sent: Sonntag, 12. September 1999 00:29 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] 680 > > bob wrote: > > > > Would like to hear of experiences with half-speed NAK decks. > > only model was 680??? > > none with dolby C? > > little confused on this... > > as good sound as CR-7A ? > > I'm tempted to trade for the half-speed feature > > but afraid might be more problems than it's worth.. > > what do you think? > > thanks > > bob > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 13:17:29 +0100 > From: "Graham Nelson" > Subject: RE: [naktalk] Small portable recorders > > Chaps! Chaps! Chaps! (And Chappesses ... sorry there Aunt Joan .. forgot > m'self for a moment...) > > One can't always answer questions privately if the originator's address is > not apparent. Besides, isn't it a bity churlish to deny a brother some > advice on a non-Nak related item when he is specifically seeking our advice > because he respects this forum for its knowledge and expertise? > > Graham > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > FabFourFan > > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 01:24 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Small portable recorders > > > > > > Recommendations for DAT and Mini (spit) Disk should be > > handled privately, > > rather than on the NakTalk mailing list, wouldn't you think? > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Mike 'acting the analog ogre today' > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:26:03 +0100, you wrote: > > > > >Jim > > > > > >Lightweight portable recorders? If it's mostly for speech, > > why not have a > > >look at some portable Mini Disc machines? Or, if you want something > > >slightly better, have a look at one of the battery operated Sony DAT > > >machines. They seem a bit fiddly at first (as do the small mini disc > > >recorders) but I'm sure you'd get used to it and you'd also > > find they make > > >tasty recordings of music from your hi fi, too! (Not having > > a DAT at the > > >moment, I am rather envious of those owners who can use > > their DAT's in Long > > >Play to record long classical performances off the radio.) > > > > > >Graham > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > >> [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > >> James P. Brochin > > >> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 08:52 > > >> To: naktalk at naks.com > > >> Cc: naktalk-digest at naks.com > > >> Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #37 > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi: > > >> > > >> I am the proud owner of a Nak 550 on which I have been making > > >> field recordings for nearly 22 years and only now is the unit > > >> ready for an overhaul. Any of you have any tips on field > > >> recording: mic > > >> placement, mic selection, use of limiter, dolby (to use or > > >> not to use), etc. "Home" recording seems like a dead art. I > > >> feel like some kind of dinosaur with my hundreds of > > >> recordings of family, > > >> interviews, live music, parades, etc. (I make multiprojector > > >> slide based documentaries and have used the Nak for all my > > >> stuff) Perhaps I'm just looking for a journalistically > > >> inclined soul mate out > > >> there. > > >> > > >> I'm going on some cycling trips and want to bring a good > > >> field recorder, and my Nak is to big and heavy. Any > > >> suggestions on units that are durable, smallish and > > reasonably priced? > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> > > >> Jim > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > > Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------========= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------ > > End of naktalk-digest V1 #39 > **************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From garcia at tusa.org Mon Sep 13 04:27:00 1999 From: garcia at tusa.org (Bill Roehl) Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 22:27:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [naktalk] BX-100 and BX-300 manuals. Message-ID: I remember reading about PDF versions of Nak manuals being around, but I can't seem to find the URL. If anyone has any idea (or can even send me a copy) I would appreciate it :) - Bill - email - garcia at tusa.org http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org icq - 11398156 I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up with her shit. * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Mon Sep 13 08:40:38 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:40:38 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Aunty Joan References: <000601befbbc$478b7da0$05000006@p4v56> <007701befd1a$1d4e4b80$141032d4@infosysbank.com> Message-ID: <37DC9C66.9ED6E30F@ozemail.com.au> George wrote - - >Hi Auntie ! Um, why are you mentioning VanDenHul amongst your analogue front-end ? I thought good cables work with digital too - :)O< - - - - ----- Darling Heart ! Van den Hul is the name of a respected brand of European MC. Same family as the OFC Copper people _(who's delicious wire runs through my Sumiko MDC 800 arm to - - - -:) Other interesting wires hold my system together but discussing them on this quaint little electronic coven might get me accused of wandering off the subject ie: Naks Later When I get to know you a little more, we may be able to discuss our front ends via private e-mail ? Kissy Kissy Aunt Joan PS> DARLINGS DO TELL ABOUT THE NEW NAK DECKS ABOUT TO COME OUT ! ! ! DOESN'T ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ? ? MUST BE SOME GOSS ON THE GRAPEVINE SOMEWHERE? ? ? excuse capitals dears but I'm getting very excited at the prospect of two new Naks stemsof wrote: > Hi Auntie ! > > Um, why are you mentioning VanDenHul amongst your analogue front-end ? I > thought good cables work with digital too - :) > > George > ----- ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Mon Sep 13 08:54:32 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:54:32 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Small portable recorders References: <000101befd18$dc7eea20$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <37DC9FA8.4FDAB219@ozemail.com.au> Well Said old Chap ! There certainly are valuable insights floating around this group. Having only recently stuck my neck into this wood I am impressed . Chaps ! Do rave on even if you float a little off the subject. Even recent posts on DAT interest me as fascinating comparisons are being made between DAT. VS. Nak field recordings. However if the discussion descends into pure digits I will get my alter ego, Aunt Joan, to nagg the death out of the lot of you. Where else could I learn of this ? John H PS I have a sneaking suspicion that developments in micro engineering may finish off the analogue / digital debate . Graham Nelson wrote: > Chaps! Chaps! Chaps! (And Chappesses ... sorry there Aunt Joan .. forgot > m'self for a moment...) > > One can't always answer questions privately if the originator's address is > not apparent. Besides, isn't it a bity churlish to deny a brother some > advice on a non-Nak related item when he is specifically seeking our advice > because he respects this forum for its knowledge and expertise? > > Graham > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > FabFourFan > > Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 01:24 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk] Small portable recorders > > > > > > Recommendations for DAT and Mini (spit) Disk should be > > handled privately, > > rather than on the NakTalk mailing list, wouldn't you think? > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > Mike 'acting the analog ogre today' > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 21:26:03 +0100, you wrote: > > > > >Jim > > > > > >Lightweight portable recorders? If it's mostly for speech, > > why not have a > > >look at some portable Mini Disc machines? Or, if you want something > > >slightly better, have a look at one of the battery operated Sony DAT > > >machines. They seem a bit fiddly at first (as do the small mini disc > > >recorders) but I'm sure you'd get used to it and you'd also > > find they make > > >tasty recordings of music from your hi fi, too! (Not having > > a DAT at the > > >moment, I am rather envious of those owners who can use > > their DAT's in Long > > >Play to record long classical performances off the radio.) > > > > > >Graham > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > >> [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > >> James P. Brochin > > >> Sent: Saturday, September 11, 1999 08:52 > > >> To: naktalk at naks.com > > >> Cc: naktalk-digest at naks.com > > >> Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #37 > > >> > > >> > > >> Hi: > > >> > > >> I am the proud owner of a Nak 550 on which I have been making > > >> field recordings for nearly 22 years and only now is the unit > > >> ready for an overhaul. Any of you have any tips on field > > >> recording: mic > > >> placement, mic selection, use of limiter, dolby (to use or > > >> not to use), etc. "Home" recording seems like a dead art. I > > >> feel like some kind of dinosaur with my hundreds of > > >> recordings of family, > > >> interviews, live music, parades, etc. (I make multiprojector > > >> slide based documentaries and have used the Nak for all my > > >> stuff) Perhaps I'm just looking for a journalistically > > >> inclined soul mate out > > >> there. > > >> > > >> I'm going on some cycling trips and want to bring a good > > >> field recorder, and my Nak is to big and heavy. Any > > >> suggestions on units that are durable, smallish and > > reasonably priced? > > >> > > >> Thanks, > > >> > > >> Jim > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > > Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------========= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Mon Sep 13 20:40:47 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 20:40:47 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] NEWNEW - Tape trade list - NEWNEW Message-ID: <37DD452F.AF1C587C@xs4all.nl> Hi Naktalkers, For those of you interested in trading tapes recorded on Nakamichi decks, I've created the 'naktapetrade' mailinglist, thanks to Carlos for initiating this! What to do? Go to the website and follow the instructions for subscribing to naktalk, only type 'naktapetrade' where it says 'naktalk' in the email. There is no digest version of this new list yet. I hope you'll enjoy this list and it will become a success! Wouter ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Davin_Clem at mail.sel.sony.com Mon Sep 13 22:00:34 1999 From: Davin_Clem at mail.sel.sony.com (Davin Clem) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:00:34 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Digital Audio Players Message-ID: <00446CDC.4532@mail.sel.sony.com> Hello Fellow Nakheads, I think that the next good format to wait for is the SACD from Sony/Phillips. The latest Positive Feedback(Vol. 8 Number 2) has a good interview with one of the designers of the DAC for the Sony SACD player. I have heard a prototype multichannel SACD at the AES Convention in SF last year and was impressed with the "analog sound" it had. Lets hope the hardware available will include indie and metal releases though, which is what I mostly listen too. Good luck! Davin Clem Sony SIC ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From gibby at bee.net Thu Sep 16 01:31:39 1999 From: gibby at bee.net (Gib) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:31:39 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 In-Reply-To: <37CAEAF9.C6E98C1C@xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <000801beffd2$77106210$7a5a4a3f@vanstar.com> Hello everyone! I recently purchased a BX-300. All my tapes have come to life, but I know I can make it sound even better with some tweaking. Since I am somewhat of a know nothing when it comes to Naks, other than what I read here, I was hoping I could get some advice. I understand the EX, SX, and ZX buttons are for different calibur of tape. I use primarily Maxell XL-II and occasionally XL-IIS. I have it set to SX. Is this correct? I also remember reading a post with someone who had a similar question, but a different deck. The person had said something along the lines of getting the deck calibrated for XL-II tapes. Would this pertain to a BX-300 as well? The other thing I am uncertain of is the Eq setting. Playing with it, I noticed 70 sounds better than 120. But when recording using XL-II tapes should this be set differently? What exactly does it do? Thanks in advance for any advice, I am going to keep tinkering and drooling. Gib ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Thu Sep 16 05:13:10 1999 From: Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:13:10 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 In-Reply-To: <000801beffd2$77106210$7a5a4a3f@vanstar.com> Message-ID: <199909160312.NAA27372@necagmx.neca.nec.com.au> Hello Gib, Like you, I am also the proud owner of a BX-300. I will try to explain the buttons for you. The EX, SX & ZX buttons are for tape bias. For Normal tapes like TDK D or AD, use EX. For Chrome tapes such as the Maxell XL-II or TDK SA, use SX. And for Metal tapes like TDK MA, MAX or MAXG, use the ZX mode. The Eq switch is used for tape equalisation. For example if you are using Normal tapes, select 120us. For Chrome and Metal, use 70 us. As far as tweaking goes on the BX-300, you can adjust the Bias tune knob. Nakamichi recommends that the recording sounds the same as the source eg. when you switch from source to tape on the monitor button, the sound should be the same. However if you are like me and likes the recordings to sound a little sharper then turn the knob in the negative region (anti-clockwise). Gib, you have made an excellent choice. I hope this unit will give you decades of pleasure in listening to music. I have owned my BX-300 for over 10 years and it has never skipped a beat, and I will never part with it. Many Regards Thomas Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of Gib Sent: Thursday, 16 September 1999 9:32 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] BX-300 Hello everyone! I recently purchased a BX-300. All my tapes have come to life, but I know I can make it sound even better with some tweaking. Since I am somewhat of a know nothing when it comes to Naks, other than what I read here, I was hoping I could get some advice. I understand the EX, SX, and ZX buttons are for different calibur of tape. I use primarily Maxell XL-II and occasionally XL-IIS. I have it set to SX. Is this correct? I also remember reading a post with someone who had a similar question, but a different deck. The person had said something along the lines of getting the deck calibrated for XL-II tapes. Would this pertain to a BX-300 as well? The other thing I am uncertain of is the Eq setting. Playing with it, I noticed 70 sounds better than 120. But when recording using XL-II tapes should this be set differently? What exactly does it do? Thanks in advance for any advice, I am going to keep tinkering and drooling. Gib ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Thu Sep 16 17:55:17 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:55:17 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] New Nak's In-Reply-To: <19990909022819.49362.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <000101bf005b$f085fcc0$05000006@p4v56> Nakophiles, Nakamaniacs and PsychoNaks! For those of you interested in the new Nak's, there is a review of the DR-10 in the October 1999 edition of Hi Fi News & Record Review. Wannabe US subscribers should call toll-free 800-875-2997. For this sweet tip-off, all I ask is that you club together and buy me one as I can't raise a smile, let alone the £800 it costs in the UK! Graham ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wchia at ciaccess.com Thu Sep 16 22:58:01 1999 From: wchia at ciaccess.com (Winston Chia) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:58:01 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Motor for Nak 500 Message-ID: <000701bf0086$2a7b3b00$b79bd8d1@oemcomputer> Hi , anybody out there have a motor for a Nak 500 in working condition? Looking for one to get my deck working. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From bssm at ibm.net Fri Sep 17 04:17:27 1999 From: bssm at ibm.net (Jo Jo) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:17:27 +0700 Subject: [naktalk] Nak's 1000 References: <000e01bef409$83161ca0$26c8c1c1@dialup2.terranet.kiev.ua> <005b01bef446$2cb06b80$131032d4@infosysbank.com> <37CCD0C5.DF23F43F@ibm.net> Message-ID: <37E1A4B6.EC4FC339@ibm.net> I want to ask about 'is there any 'big major problems' if I purchase the secon-handed of The Nakamichi 1000 ? Because I'm afraid that it will be very easily broke down (in case of the head life-cycle, etc) ? I hope that anyone of you can help me. Thanks Very Much ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Sep 17 06:28:15 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:28:15 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Anyone needing a 600 deck ? Message-ID: <003201bf00c5$0feb4f20$b82f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello fellows: Since I already have a huge cassette & reel to reel collection, I want to depart with some of them. I have a beautiful condition 600 with smoked dustcover and manual xerox copy for sale. I bought it for $250.00 many moons ago but I'm sacrificing her before my wife take care of it. Cosmetics are like a 9 of 10 (perhaps 8.5) and she plays and records good. It's Black. As is ... Carlos Tha Tape Man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au Fri Sep 17 07:23:01 1999 From: Thomas_Siomopoulos at neca.nec.com.au (Thomas Siomopoulos) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:23:01 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Anyone needing a 600 deck ? In-Reply-To: <003201bf00c5$0feb4f20$b82f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <199909170522.PAA05557@necagmx.neca.nec.com.au> Hi Carlos, Do you have any open reel tape to sell? Regards Thomas Siomopoulos. -----Original Message----- From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of Carlos Sent: Friday, 17 September 1999 2:28 To: naktalk at naks.com Subject: [naktalk] Anyone needing a 600 deck ? Hello fellows: Since I already have a huge cassette & reel to reel collection, I want to depart with some of them. I have a beautiful condition 600 with smoked dustcover and manual xerox copy for sale. I bought it for $250.00 many moons ago but I'm sacrificing her before my wife take care of it. Cosmetics are like a 9 of 10 (perhaps 8.5) and she plays and records good. It's Black. As is ... Carlos Tha Tape Man ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========---------------------------------------------------------------- --========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Fri Sep 17 14:08:08 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:08:08 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Anyone needing a 600 deck ? References: <199909170522.PAA05557@necagmx.neca.nec.com.au> Message-ID: <003901bf0106$808e3c60$1b2f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello Tom: I have a couple of Revox and maybe I can get rid of the domestic version B-77. 1/4 track. 3 3/4 & 7 1/2 ips. In working condition and good cosmetics. Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Siomopoulos To: Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 1:23 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] Anyone needing a 600 deck ? > Hi Carlos, > > Do you have any open reel tape to sell? > > Regards Thomas Siomopoulos. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > Carlos > Sent: Friday, 17 September 1999 2:28 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: [naktalk] Anyone needing a 600 deck ? > > > Hello fellows: > > Since I already have a huge cassette & reel to reel collection, I want > to > depart with some of them. I have a beautiful condition 600 with smoked > dustcover and manual xerox copy for sale. I bought it for $250.00 many > moons > ago but I'm sacrificing her before my wife take care of it. Cosmetics > are > like a 9 of 10 (perhaps 8.5) and she plays and records good. It's Black. > As > is ... > > Carlos > Tha Tape Man > > > > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- > --========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========---------------------------------------------------------------- > --========= > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From AGloop at aol.com Fri Sep 17 18:08:01 1999 From: AGloop at aol.com (AGloop at aol.com) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:08:01 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Manual wanted Message-ID: Fellow Nakians: I have recently purchased a mint CR-2A which I absolutely love. The PO did not have the original manual. Anyone out there have one they could send me a copy of? Handsome reward offered. Mike Chev AGloop at aol.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From rguzzey at stny.rr.com Fri Sep 17 19:12:44 1999 From: rguzzey at stny.rr.com (Rick Guzzey) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 13:12:44 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Manual wanted References: Message-ID: <001f01bf012f$dc227680$c4285e18@stny.rr.com> What kind of handsom reward? Rick ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, September 17, 1999 12:08 PM Subject: [naktalk] Manual wanted > Fellow Nakians: > > I have recently purchased a mint CR-2A which I absolutely love. The PO did > not have the original manual. Anyone out there have one they could send me a > copy of? Handsome reward offered. > > Mike Chev > AGloop at aol.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sat Sep 18 02:26:31 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 20:26:31 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree Document Message-ID: <000001bf01c1$221cec60$f42f2ac4@coqui.net> The Nak Tree Document The following , are simple to follow instructions and requirements for the mutual benefit of all those subjects interested in trading music. These would guarantee the free enjoyment of music. RULES: 1- By submitting your mailing address and name you authorize other members to exchange music with you or any of your family members under your patronage. 2- The shipping method to be used is Priority Parcel Post. The sender is responsible for shipping cost. The shipping method may vary for foreign members. In that case the specific member must notify the best shipping way. 3- Each member must notify the musical genre preference. That way you avoid to receive music that you don't like. 4- The addresses are private and not available to other sources without the explicit permission of the members. 5- Tapes to be trade has to be high quality Chrome. Maxell XL-II, TDK SA & BASF Reference II. It can be custom load but in no less than a Shape Mark 10 shell. C-60 and C-90 ONLY. 6- If you want to encode the tape with a filter, only DOLBY B should be used since this type does not need imperative decoding to obtain good sound. You should notify if it is Dolby B encoded. Dolby S is more forgiving, so, it is permisible too as long as you mention it. 7- You must protect the cassette with a good padded envelope or other good protection means. 8- The deck model, filter used (if any), recording or dubbing date, studio and recording engineer (you) must be written. 9- Re-distribution to other members is permitted. SALES ARE FORBIDDEN. We don't want to infringe any copyright law here. These tapes are for our personal pleasure ONLY. 10- Mixed music are welcome. In this case you don't have to write down the artists/songs. If not mixed, please allow at least 3 seconds of silence/space for the benefit of those decks equipped with AMS (automatic music search). 11- Let's all maintain a healthy communication by e mail with other members. Try to play fair: if you receive a C-90 tape, do not send back a C-60 and so unless the other party agree. 12- Music can be new or old. Life concerts are welcome too but you must keep in mind that not all the members have accessibility to these sources. 13- You are not oblige to record on a Nakamichi deck as long as you notify it. It is preferable but is not an obligation. Any other ideas, comments or rules are welcome. Best regards, Carlos J. Guzman - President Copytech Corporation Puerto Rico (787)885-2316 copytec at coqui.net ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bochar at epix.net Sat Sep 18 14:56:58 1999 From: bochar at epix.net (bob) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 08:56:58 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree Document References: <000001bf01c1$221cec60$f42f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <37E38C1A.7AA7DA5E@epix.net> how do i begin? Carlos wrote: > > The Nak Tree Document > > The following , are simple to follow instructions and requirements for the > mutual benefit of all those subjects interested in trading music. These > would guarantee the free enjoyment of music. > > RULES: > > 1- By submitting your mailing address and name you authorize other members > to exchange music with you or any of your family members under your > patronage. > > 2- The shipping method to be used is Priority Parcel Post. The sender is > responsible for shipping cost. The shipping method may vary for foreign > members. In that case the specific member must notify the best shipping way. > > 3- Each member must notify the musical genre preference. That way you avoid > to receive music that you don't like. > > 4- The addresses are private and not available to other sources without the > explicit permission of the members. > > 5- Tapes to be trade has to be high quality Chrome. Maxell XL-II, TDK SA & > BASF Reference II. It can be custom load but in no less than a Shape Mark 10 > shell. C-60 and C-90 ONLY. > > 6- If you want to encode the tape with a filter, only DOLBY B should be used > since this type does not need imperative decoding to obtain good sound. You > should notify if it is Dolby B encoded. Dolby S is more forgiving, so, it is > permisible too as long as you mention it. > > 7- You must protect the cassette with a good padded envelope or other good > protection means. > > 8- The deck model, filter used (if any), recording or dubbing date, studio > and recording engineer (you) must be written. > > 9- Re-distribution to other members is permitted. SALES ARE FORBIDDEN. We > don't want to infringe any copyright law here. These tapes are for our > personal pleasure ONLY. > > 10- Mixed music are welcome. In this case you don't have to write down the > artists/songs. > If not mixed, please allow at least 3 seconds of silence/space for the > benefit of those decks equipped with AMS (automatic music search). > > 11- Let's all maintain a healthy communication by e mail with other members. > Try to play fair: if you receive a C-90 tape, do not send back a C-60 and so > unless the other party agree. > > 12- Music can be new or old. Life concerts are welcome too but you must keep > in mind that not all the members have accessibility to these sources. > > 13- You are not oblige to record on a Nakamichi deck as long as you notify > it. It is preferable but is not an obligation. > > Any other ideas, comments or rules are welcome. > > Best regards, > > Carlos J. Guzman - President > Copytech Corporation > Puerto Rico > (787)885-2316 > > copytec at coqui.net > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From RAKNAK57 at aol.com Sun Sep 19 07:56:24 1999 From: RAKNAK57 at aol.com (RAKNAK57 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 01:56:24 EDT Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree Document Message-ID: <1c6b7499.2515d508@aol.com> Hello all two questions I would like to add Concerning Nakamichi Decks Where and how can i get cleaning products from Intraclean (S-711 cleaning fluid) and where is the best place to get high quality TDK MA-XG tapes with the aluminum shell! Thanks RakNak57 at aol.com Rakesh ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From RAKNAK57 at aol.com Sun Sep 19 07:58:12 1999 From: RAKNAK57 at aol.com (RAKNAK57 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 01:58:12 EDT Subject: [naktalk] cleaning product for nak decks??? Message-ID: <9f8b2353.2515d574@aol.com> Hello all two questions I would like to add Concerning Nakamichi Decks Where and how can i get cleaning products from Intraclean (S-711 cleaning fluid) and where is the best place to get high quality TDK MA-XG tapes with the aluminum shell! Thanks RakNak57 at aol.com Rakesh ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sun Sep 19 13:38:26 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 07:38:26 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree Document References: <1c6b7499.2515d508@aol.com> Message-ID: <001b01bf0293$807eb9a0$1b2f2ac4@coqui.net> > Hello all two questions I would like to add Concerning Nakamichi Decks > and where is the best place to get high quality TDK MA-XG tapes with > the aluminum shell! > Thanks National Recording Supplies. 1-800-538-2336. Talk to Domenick and tell him Carlos send you ! Good luck, Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sun Sep 19 14:05:30 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 08:05:30 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree Document References: <000001bf01c1$221cec60$f42f2ac4@coqui.net> <37E38C1A.7AA7DA5E@epix.net> Message-ID: <008501bf0297$45417c20$1b2f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: bob To: Sent: Saturday, September 18, 1999 8:56 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] The Nak Tree Document > how do i begin? > Well, Bob, I think Wouter is gonna have an space available in this space to supply addresses, but, I'm ready when you are. My address is: Carlos J. Guzman P.O. Box 219 Ceiba, Puerto Rico 00735-0219 My favorites are: everything except RAP ! Best, Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From jazzisjazz at mindspring.com Sun Sep 19 15:24:18 1999 From: jazzisjazz at mindspring.com (Stanley P. Pickens) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 09:24:18 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] FS:Nakamichi ZX-9 Cassette Deck - Super Tuned Edition Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19990919132418.006a7cd0@pop.mindspring.com> Nakamichi ZX-9 Cassette Deck - Super Tuned Edition Discrete Three Head, Direct Drive w/ Super Linear Torque Motor-Asymmetrical Dual Capstan w/pressure pad lifter and auto tape slack take-up. Manual Adj. for bias, sensitivity, and azimuth w/ calibration tones built in (led metering scale changes to allow precise adjustments), Dolby B/C, mpx filter, output level control, dual input level controls, red led tape counter, memory repeat, timer play/record, rec. mute switch, 2 - speed auto master fader, tape monitor switch, meters (-40 to +10 w/16 elements), auto rewind after tape calibration, wired remote control capable, built in power supply and connector for Mx-100 Microphone Mixer, gold plated RCA inputs/outputs & headphone jack. Black w/ gold lettering, red led switch indicators, back lit cassette well. Specs: W/F <0.022 WTD Peak Freq. Resp. 20hz - 21 kHz +/- 3db any tape Manufacturer's Specs Weight @ 21 lbs. RECENTLY SERVICED AT LOCAL NAKAMICHI DEALER Resoldering of suspect solder joints to eliminate low recording levels in one channel.( It lasted @ 3-4 months ) Replacement of idler assembly, take up reel hub, capstan belt, capacitors to eliminate transport switching into stop mode unnecessarily. Replacement of reel hub motor and capacitor to eliminate intermittent noise during playback/ff./rw. Full cleaning,alignment,adjustment with Nakamichi tools,jigs,tapes etc. Heads, capstans, pinch rollers, etc. verified to be in very good shape. All paperwork and reciepts will be included. Performance brought up to meet or exceed factory specifications Frequency Response Results: (measured) FR w/ TDK AR 20 Hz - 22 kHz +/- 1.5 dB TDK SA 20 Hz - 21 kHz +/- 1.0 dB TDK MA 20 Hz - 21 kHz +/- 1.5 dB Maxell MX 20hz - 22 kHz +/- 1.0 dB Current Condition: Electrical : Needs service for noise and reduced level during playback with dolby c circuit switched in on right channel Mechanical : Excellent (still runs beautifully) Cosmetic : Face : Very Good: All Knobs, displays, buttons and trim intact Top Cover : has some scratches ( not visible from the front) from installation into close fitting rack by previous owner. 2nd Owner- Deck has been very lightly used. Price: Best offer within next 7 days - Deck w/ manual (ZX-7, functions and controls are the same), original color brochure and a magazine test report.) ===>>> (Price will include shipping). Unit will be double boxed, well packed, and insured to make certain of safe arrival. Please email offers and questions to Stanley at : jazzisjazz at mindspring.com Thanks, Stanley P. Pickens 864 855-2520 Just for the record- When it works it sounds wonderful- better than MD(sharp mds-702 portable) ,sweeter than cd (jvc 1050), and better than any other deck I've owned(nak bx-150,300(2x),cr-1a,4a,rx-505, among others) Thanks, Stan P.S. MX-100 Mic Mixer also available ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From cjsfeng at sfu.ca Sun Sep 19 19:47:58 1999 From: cjsfeng at sfu.ca (Desmond Hidson) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 10:47:58 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] The Nak Tree Document In-Reply-To: <1c6b7499.2515d508@aol.com> Message-ID: >Hello all >two questions I would like to add concerning Nakamichi Decks. Hi Rakesh ... >Where and how can I get cleaning products from Intraclean (S-711 cleaning >fluid) Good old 70% Isoproponol Alcohol work just fine, 90% if you are careful (it will melt plastic) !!! And don't use Q-Tips, they leave fibers behind, just a non abrasive link free cloth will do. And some advice for everyone: Do Not use alcohol or any head cleaner (w/alcohol) on your pinch rollers, drys them out. There is a solution by Adtec that contains no alcohol that removes oxide from heads AND rejuvenates rubber pinch rollers, but HEED the caution on the bottle "DO NOT USE ON PLASTIC. Use in ventilated room. Keep lid tightly closed". Scarey isn't it? And as with any cleaner: "Leave no residue". Even the fumes from this stuff eats plastic if left lingering long enough! So watch out! Oh, it's name? Adtec "Professional Cleaner". I got from a local (Coquitlam, B. C. Canada) equipment supplier, Peter Kelly of All Electric, but I do not know where he acquired it. I'll find out. And hey, if you do not have one, you need to get one: a "TDK HD-30 Cassette Head Demagnetizer". >and where is the best place to get high quality TDK MA-XG tapes with the >aluminum shell! I do not know if this is the best place but here is a note Carlos posted a month or so ago: Hello Guys: TDK MA-XG is now in its Reference Standard Mechanism Series III. It's still available, call: National Recording Supplies at 1-800-538-2336 and talk to Domenick Salvatore. Tell him Carlos sent you. This material is not in stock. It is special order. Good Luck ! Carlos >Thanks >RakNak57 at aol.com >Rakesh You are welcome ... Desmond ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From NakamiKaze at hotmail.com Sun Sep 19 19:46:33 1999 From: NakamiKaze at hotmail.com (Matyas) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 19:46:33 +0200 Subject: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon Message-ID: <19990919175047.40236.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello N A K A M I K A Z E S lust tremulous I just found today for sale in a store, a Tandberg 3014a and its owner's manual, (that I fully read) and learned by the way that its AZIMUTH Adjustment act the same way as the Zx-7/Zx-9 : The Record Head's Azimuth Adjustment,only. [about ZX-9, I saw it once, and it was factory added on the cassette door :"SPECIAL TUNED EDITION" ] ...I never seen any notes to this Beast into your Nakamichi horizon Hypnotizing archives. what is this special tuning ?(components??) production year,etc... Let Us know any information ! ...a druglike veneration ;o) To come back with the Tandberg wich is very often classed as the Absolute and compared too often as well to the Drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrragon, I want to notice that the Tandberg's audio stage seems to be really audiophile, selected components, inovative Dynec Actilinear rec ...BUT BUT BUT ...How to compare the incomparable?(it still built like a tank! eavy and eternal.) This deck has a function and the Dragon... an another ... For my opinion as one surly could expect, the Dragon's best role is to reproduce the quintessance of what can be memorize in those fabulous mylar serpentine ....for the best or worst...strongly...accurate. The Dragon had better capstan technology, the world best certainly. 0.04% wtd wrms PEACK (0.019% wtd wrms) against 0.09% wrms PEACK (0.06% wrms)for Tandberg. So I dont speak about the tremendous NAAC ...the 3014a just can not adjust playback azimuth. If the Tandberg is not sold yet I will take my time to audition it seriously and my comparison will be a ZX 7 that is on place. I will make comparison between them in the Electrical/Electrical way (cd-amplification // cd-deck linestage-amplification)without recording. Who does produces the most hysterical listening ? In a next mail I will compare two DRAGONS, my best friend's one, and mine. Some surprises uhh ! The Simple Beauty of a Shell Can be a Delight to the ears as well ps: Thank you for all, Wouter Matyas ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From bochar at epix.net Mon Sep 20 01:55:30 1999 From: bochar at epix.net (bob) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 19:55:30 -0400 Subject: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon References: <19990919175047.40236.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <37E577F2.D7D23DC0@epix.net> I have a stereophile mag that compared the zx-7 to the 3014...and, as most audiophiles know, the Tanberg's sound was best and always rated the best...I never heard one, though... With an azimuth correction for playback all tapes, made anywhere and on different tapes etc. etc., can be tweaked to sound great on higher model NAKs. If this fellow is going to play the tapes ont he same machine...then he should buy the Tanberg... similarly, those fans of the Revox cassette have the great sound but problem of tapes from other machines don't sound as good... Pays yer dough, takes yer choice.. ;o) Matyas wrote: > > Hello N A K A M I K A Z E S lust tremulous > > I just found today for sale in a store, a Tandberg 3014a and > its owner's manual, > (that I fully read) and > learned by the way that its AZIMUTH Adjustment > act the same way as the Zx-7/Zx-9 : > > The Record Head's Azimuth Adjustment,only. > > [about ZX-9, I saw it once, and it was factory added on the cassette door > :"SPECIAL TUNED EDITION" ] > > ...I never seen any notes to > this Beast > into your Nakamichi horizon Hypnotizing archives. what is this special > tuning ?(components??) > production year,etc... Let Us know any information ! ...a druglike > veneration ;o) > > To come back with the Tandberg wich is very often classed as the > Absolute and compared too > often as well to the > Drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrragon, > I want to notice that the Tandberg's audio stage seems to be really > audiophile, > selected components, inovative Dynec Actilinear rec ...BUT BUT BUT ...How to > compare the incomparable?(it still built like a tank! eavy and eternal.) > This deck has a function and the Dragon... an another ... > For my opinion as one surly could expect, the Dragon's best role is to > reproduce the quintessance of > what can be memorize in those fabulous mylar serpentine ....for the best or > worst...strongly...accurate. > The Dragon had better capstan technology, the world best certainly. > 0.04% wtd wrms PEACK (0.019% wtd wrms) against > 0.09% wrms PEACK (0.06% wrms)for Tandberg. > So I dont speak about the tremendous NAAC > ...the 3014a just can not adjust playback azimuth. > If the Tandberg is not sold yet I will take my time to audition it seriously > and my comparison will be a ZX 7 that is on place. > I will make comparison between them in the Electrical/Electrical way > (cd-amplification // cd-deck linestage-amplification)without recording. > Who does produces the most hysterical listening ? > > In a next mail I will compare two DRAGONS, my best friend's one, and mine. > Some surprises uhh ! > > The Simple Beauty of a Shell > Can be a Delight to the ears as well > > ps: Thank you for all, Wouter > Matyas > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: bochar.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 212 bytes Desc: Card for bob URL: From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Mon Sep 20 11:20:16 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:20:16 +1000 Subject: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon References: <19990919175047.40236.qmail@hotmail.com> <37E577F2.D7D23DC0@epix.net> Message-ID: <37E5FC50.356D3979@ozemail.com.au> Fascinating stuff - I heard theTandberg last year as the front end of a valve / quad electrostatic / REL sub and was in lust with the Tandberg within seconds. I wouldn't be unfaithful to my Dragon to get my hands on one though. I suspect that parts , if available, would be hideously expensive. Any of you ever run 'the last great English' cassette deck? (I can't remember the brand name) Hail O Fellow Nakamaniacs John H bob wrote: > I have a stereophile mag that compared the zx-7 to the 3014...and, as > most audiophiles know, the Tanberg's sound was best and always rated > the best...I never heard one, though... > With an azimuth correction for playback all tapes, made anywhere and on > different tapes etc. etc., can be tweaked to sound great on higher model > NAKs. > If this fellow is going to play the tapes ont he same machine...then he > should buy the Tanberg... > similarly, those fans of the Revox cassette have the great sound but > problem of tapes from other machines don't sound as good... > Pays yer dough, > takes yer choice.. > ;o) > > Matyas wrote: > > > > Hello N A K A M I K A Z E S lust tremulous > > > > I just found today for sale in a store, a Tandberg 3014a and > > its owner's manual, > > (that I fully read) and > > learned by the way that its AZIMUTH Adjustment > > act the same way as the Zx-7/Zx-9 : > > > > The Record Head's Azimuth Adjustment,only. > > > > [about ZX-9, I saw it once, and it was factory added on the cassette door > > :"SPECIAL TUNED EDITION" ] > > > > ...I never seen any notes to > > this Beast > > into your Nakamichi horizon Hypnotizing archives. what is this special > > tuning ?(components??) > > production year,etc... Let Us know any information ! ...a druglike > > veneration ;o) > > > > To come back with the Tandberg wich is very often classed as the > > Absolute and compared too > > often as well to the > > Drrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrragon, > > I want to notice that the Tandberg's audio stage seems to be really > > audiophile, > > selected components, inovative Dynec Actilinear rec ...BUT BUT BUT ...How to > > compare the incomparable?(it still built like a tank! eavy and eternal.) > > This deck has a function and the Dragon... an another ... > > For my opinion as one surly could expect, the Dragon's best role is to > > reproduce the quintessance of > > what can be memorize in those fabulous mylar serpentine ....for the best or > > worst...strongly...accurate. > > The Dragon had better capstan technology, the world best certainly. > > 0.04% wtd wrms PEACK (0.019% wtd wrms) against > > 0.09% wrms PEACK (0.06% wrms)for Tandberg. > > So I dont speak about the tremendous NAAC > > ...the 3014a just can not adjust playback azimuth. > > If the Tandberg is not sold yet I will take my time to audition it seriously > > and my comparison will be a ZX 7 that is on place. > > I will make comparison between them in the Electrical/Electrical way > > (cd-amplification // cd-deck linestage-amplification)without recording. > > Who does produces the most hysterical listening ? > > > > In a next mail I will compare two DRAGONS, my best friend's one, and mine. > > Some surprises uhh ! > > > > The Simple Beauty of a Shell > > Can be a Delight to the ears as well > > > > ps: Thank you for all, Wouter > > Matyas > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: bochar.vcf > bochar.vcf Type: VCard (text/x-vcard) > Encoding: 7bit > Description: Card for bob ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Mon Sep 20 11:29:52 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:29:52 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] FS: ZX-9 Frustrations References: <1.5.4.32.19990919132418.006a7cd0@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: <37E5FE90.ECEFBE39@ozemail.com.au> OOOh! Is this ever frustrating - unfortunately the freight and risk of damage stops me having anymore gear shipped from the States to Australia, otherwise I would be a buyer. Your post is honest, thorough and intelligent = I'm keeping it on file as a reference/template. John H "Stanley P. Pickens" wrote: > Nakamichi ZX-9 Cassette Deck - Super Tuned Edition > > Discrete Three Head, Direct Drive w/ < .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. ... .. ... ... ... .... ... . . . . . ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Sep 20 13:36:32 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 07:36:32 -0400 Subject: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon References: <19990919175047.40236.qmail@hotmail.com> <37E577F2.D7D23DC0@epix.net> Message-ID: <005301bf035c$6392c1a0$8f2f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: bob To: Sent: Sunday, September 19, 1999 7:55 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon > similarly, those fans of the Revox cassette have the great sound but > problem of tapes from other machines don't sound as good... Bob, perhaps you're right. That's why I don't get rid off my Dragon, because I can play, virtually, any tape from any cassette deck, BUT, for serious recording I have to confess that I don't change the B-215 for even my 1000 ZXL ! These european decks recording are so flat and natural that makes them the finest choice if you are recording for other persons. Anything you record on them, is gonna sound good anywhere, and if you play their tapes back on a Dragon, prepare yourself for a hilarious experience ! Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Mon Sep 20 15:20:04 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 16:20:04 +0300 Subject: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon References: <19990919175047.40236.qmail@hotmail.com> <37E577F2.D7D23DC0@epix.net> <37E5FC50.356D3979@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <000f01bf036a$dadd0dc0$111032d4@infosysbank.com> Seeing the word "valve", I'd like to recommend to all valve fans the following web page: amp.dir.bg . There are a lot of very interesting items there, which are made by a good friend of mine. Check it out. George P.S. Sorry for the non-Nak message, but I tried to keep it short. -:) ----- Original Message ----- From: mdhjwh To: Sent: 20 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 12:20 Subject: Re: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon > Fascinating stuff - I heard theTandberg last year as the front > end of a valve / quad electrostatic / REL sub and was in lust > with the Tandberg within seconds. I wouldn't be unfaithful > to my Dragon to get my hands on one though. > I suspect that parts , if available, would be hideously > expensive. > Any of you ever run 'the last great English' cassette deck? > (I can't remember the brand name) > > Hail O Fellow Nakamaniacs > > John H > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Mon Sep 20 21:50:44 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 20:50:44 +0100 Subject: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon In-Reply-To: <000f01bf036a$dadd0dc0$111032d4@infosysbank.com> Message-ID: <000101bf03a2$2153f980$05000006@p4v56> Steve Don't apologise for the message being "non-Nak" - Nakaphilia gets a bit incestuous at times and we all need reminding there's a whole World outside of Nak cassette sometimes! Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > stemsof > Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 02:20 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon > > > Seeing the word "valve", I'd like to recommend to all valve fans the > following web page: amp.dir.bg . There are a lot of very > interesting items > there, which are made by a good friend of mine. Check it out. > > George > > P.S. Sorry for the non-Nak message, but I tried to keep it short. -:) ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Mon Sep 20 21:54:35 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 20:54:35 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] The Last Great British cassette deck In-Reply-To: <37E5FC50.356D3979@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <000201bf03a2$26467440$05000006@p4v56> John Last great British cassette deck - Are you talking about the Arcam Delta 100? Graham ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ARWII at aol.com Tue Sep 21 01:53:31 1999 From: ARWII at aol.com (ARWII at aol.com) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 19:53:31 EDT Subject: [naktalk] cleaning product for nak decks fluid) ??? Message-ID: Hello RAKNAK, Sorry to be the barrer of bad news. TDK stopped making MA-XG cassettes two or three years ago. There are none left in any distribution pipeline that I can find in the eastern US. I'm afraid I never heard of Intraclean (S-711 cleaning fluid). The most easily obtainable cleaning products here are offered by Teac. Good luck with your search. Raymond Wheelock Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Tue Sep 21 07:13:54 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:13:54 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] The Last Great British cassette deck References: <000201bf03a2$26467440$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <37E71412.12693E41@ozemail.com.au> Yes .That's the one. Today my technician informed me that the insides of this thing are a dogs breakfast. One has appeared for sale in a local rag and I wondered it it's worth a listen? It's going for $150 (Aust) = approx. $350 (U.S.) John H., Graham Nelson wrote: > John > > Last great British cassette deck - Are you talking about the Arcam Delta > 100? > > Graham > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Tue Sep 21 07:37:22 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 08:37:22 +0300 Subject: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon References: <000101bf03a2$2153f980$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <000f01bf03f3$6184e9a0$121032d4@infosysbank.com> Uh, Graham, it's actually George, not Steve, but it's OK - as long as the message gets across. -:) George (Steve) ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Nelson To: Sent: 20 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 22:50 Subject: RE: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon > Steve > > Don't apologise for the message being "non-Nak" - Nakaphilia gets a bit > incestuous at times and we all need reminding there's a whole World outside > of Nak cassette sometimes! > > Graham > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > > stemsof > > Sent: Monday, September 20, 1999 02:20 > > To: naktalk at naks.com > > Subject: Re: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon > > > > > > Seeing the word "valve", I'd like to recommend to all valve fans the > > following web page: amp.dir.bg . There are a lot of very > > interesting items > > there, which are made by a good friend of mine. Check it out. > > > > George > > > > P.S. Sorry for the non-Nak message, but I tried to keep it short. -:) > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Tue Sep 21 07:18:35 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 15:18:35 +1000 Subject: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon References: <19990919175047.40236.qmail@hotmail.com> <37E577F2.D7D23DC0@epix.net> <37E5FC50.356D3979@ozemail.com.au> <000f01bf036a$dadd0dc0$111032d4@infosysbank.com> Message-ID: <37E7152B.17FBA78D@ozemail.com.au> Thanks for the valve reference , however my browser doesn't recognize amp.dir.bg . Is this the full net address ?? Thanks again, John H ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Tue Sep 21 08:58:54 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 09:58:54 +0300 Subject: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon References: <19990919175047.40236.qmail@hotmail.com> <37E577F2.D7D23DC0@epix.net> <37E5FC50.356D3979@ozemail.com.au> <000f01bf036a$dadd0dc0$111032d4@infosysbank.com> <37E7152B.17FBA78D@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <003e01bf03fe$c5bc6d20$121032d4@infosysbank.com> John, I didn't get through either, but that should be the whole address, since I've been there before. Maybe the host server is having problems, I'll try to speak with my pal later today. Anyways, if you search with Altavista for "Vacuum tube amplifiers", it's the first one listed in the results. Try that link. George ----- Original Message ----- From: mdhjwh To: Sent: 21 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 08:18 Subject: Re: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon > Thanks for the valve reference , however my browser doesn't recognize > amp.dir.bg . Is this the full net address ?? > Thanks again, > John H > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Tue Sep 21 09:00:30 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:00:30 +0300 Subject: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon References: <19990919175047.40236.qmail@hotmail.com> <37E577F2.D7D23DC0@epix.net> <37E5FC50.356D3979@ozemail.com.au> <000f01bf036a$dadd0dc0$111032d4@infosysbank.com> <37E7152B.17FBA78D@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <004601bf03fe$fe5f53e0$121032d4@infosysbank.com> Just tried it now and got through successfully. George ----- Original Message ----- From: mdhjwh To: Sent: 21 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 08:18 Subject: Re: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon > Thanks for the valve reference , however my browser doesn't recognize > amp.dir.bg . Is this the full net address ?? > Thanks again, > John H > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From winfried.schoepf at at.unisys.com Tue Sep 21 12:16:07 1999 From: winfried.schoepf at at.unisys.com (Schoepf, Winfried) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 05:16:07 -0500 Subject: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon Message-ID: Hi, >>Any of you ever run 'the last great English' cassette deck? >>(I can't remember the brand name) I never heard of this 'last great English', sounds interesting, may I digress a little from pure NAKKING ? I have a curious 20 year old deck called NEAL 302. I don't suppose that it could be that ? NEAL still exists but they stopped HiFi products. Nowadays they build special recorders for police interviews and surveillance use. The 302 had an incredible simple rugged transport, 3 Papst AC bell rotor motors, one driving via belt a 16cm dia capstan flywheel the two others are direct drive reel motors. It is a two head deck with very decent audio stage (my view). But it does not in any way stand up against my 680 ZX of same age, not even transport reliability over the years. Not to mention the superb adjustability and automatic bias and record azimuth adjustment of the 680ZX. Has to be said although I'm an anglophile in many respects, e.g. preamp, power amp and speakers are all trusty old englich stuff (Cambridge Audio, QUAD, KEF) Cheers Winfried ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Schoepf, Winfried To: Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 6:16 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon > Hi, > > >>Any of you ever run 'the last great English' cassette deck? > >>(I can't remember the brand name) > > I never heard of this 'last great English', sounds interesting, may I > digress a little from pure NAKKING ? > I have a curious 20 year old deck called NEAL 302. I don't suppose that it > could be that ? ... ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Sep 21 20:38:49 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 19:38:49 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] RE: The Last Great British cassette deck - Arcam Delta 100 In-Reply-To: <37E71412.12693E41@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <000201bf0460$cc666f60$05000006@p4v56> John I've never heard it but can tell you it received some good reviews in the UK and was favourably mentioned as a competitor to the Nak DR1, which was sold at a similar price (£850). It was said to be the first deck where Dolby S actually sounded good! What Hi Fi reviewed it in May 92. The one-liner version of their conclusion was: "Capable of lively, assured sound with deep and tuneful bass - but at a price." It only scored 4 stars for sound quality, unlike the Nak DR1, 2 and 3, all of which came in with 5 a piece. But it did score 5 for build quality. It was also reviewed by Hi Fi Choice (edition 111), who recommended it and said, in summary, "Superb transport and a ripe, spacious sound." Not that I give much credence to journalists reviews ... after all, one man's food is another man's poison. But I would be interested to hear if Carlos has knowledge and experience of the machine - he is one correspondent to this network whose views I respect (Hail Carlos! I wish the guy didn't live so far away 'cos he's one dude I'd like to meet!) because he very evidently knows intimately, and has used, a great many types and makes of cassette deck. For example, did the Arcam Delta 100 really stack up to the standards of a DR1, or even the more modestly priced DR2 and DR3? Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > mdhjwh > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 06:14 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk] The Last Great British cassette deck > > > Yes .That's the one. Today my technician informed me that the > insides of this thing are a dogs breakfast. > One has appeared for sale in a local rag and I wondered it > it's worth a listen? > It's going for $150 (Aust) = approx. $350 (U.S.) > > John H., > > Graham Nelson wrote: > > > John > > > > Last great British cassette deck - Are you talking about > the Arcam Delta > > 100? > > > > Graham > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi > Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------ > ------------========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Sep 21 19:03:48 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:03:48 +0100 Subject: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon In-Reply-To: <000f01bf03f3$6184e9a0$121032d4@infosysbank.com> Message-ID: <000101bf0460$cae46340$05000006@p4v56> George Sorry, mate! Very rude of me. My mind must have been wandering again... Graham > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-naktalk at naks.com > [mailto:owner-naktalk at naks.com]On Behalf Of > stemsof > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 06:37 > To: naktalk at naks.com > Subject: Re: [naktalk]The unmatched Tandberg vs Dragon > > > Uh, Graham, it's actually George, not Steve, but it's OK - as > long as the > message gets across. -:) > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From cougar at michianatoday.com Wed Sep 22 02:33:14 1999 From: cougar at michianatoday.com (Mark L. STRAND) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 17:33:14 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Two 700ZXE's for sale Message-ID: <37E823CA.83425F92@michianatoday.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From copytec at coqui.net Wed Sep 22 04:32:08 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:32:08 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] RE: The Last Great British cassette deck - Arcam Delta 100 References: <000201bf0460$cc666f60$05000006@p4v56> Message-ID: <002601bf04a2$ab699660$992f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Nelson To: Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 2:38 PM Subject: [naktalk] RE: The Last Great British cassette deck - Arcam Delta 100 . But I would > be interested to hear if Carlos has knowledge and experience of the > machine - he is one correspondent to this network whose views I respect > (Hail Carlos! I wish the guy didn't live so far away 'cos he's one dude I'd > like to meet!) because he very evidently knows intimately, and has used, a > great many types and makes of cassette deck. For example, did the Arcam > Delta 100 really stack up to the standards of a DR1, or even the more > modestly priced DR2 and DR3? Hail Graham ! Thank you very much for your kindest words and that includes all the guys that have e.mail me privately with letters of appreciation. This has been my hobby and mode of living for more than 20 years,so, you're right when you say I have stepped over many decks. Well, I'm not that old either ... I surely know about the Delta 100. I t was the last serious attempt on a $1,000+ cassette deck in our era. Arcam stopped its production about 5 years ago and I remember my friend Michael Zeugin from Audio Influx in New York, former US distributor for Arcam, trying pushing me a Delta 100. Reviews were awsome for a british deck. It was simplistic ergonomy like all Arcam components (I really love their CD players and tuners) .I still have an Arcam One in my third system here. The specs were good but the price was a little high to be of any serious consideration to me. Unfortunately, I never heard one and never became interested in buying one either,so, I may not be your best source for recommendation. The sound must be more " flat " than the Naks, as all the europeans decks tends to be, but to be honest we have to make a shoot out between both to be sure. Which one I'll choose ? At this time,today, I'll try one of those new Naks or a well proven classic like a Dragon or 700 ZXL if the money is there. The Nak has a better re-sale value than an Arcam, at least in the states (USA). Best, Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Wed Sep 22 09:30:06 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 17:30:06 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] RE: The Last Great British cassette deck - Arcam Delta 100 References: <000201bf0460$cc666f60$05000006@p4v56> <002601bf04a2$ab699660$992f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <37E8857D.B1E2AE77@ozemail.com.au> Carlos wrote:>"The sound must be more " flat" than the Naks, as all the europeans decks tends to be, "< Hi Carlos, You have touched on a suspicion I have had for a long time that some Nak's boost the bottom end on playback. To my ears ( I have no test equipment other than the two items on either side of my head) this comes across as a boost somewhere between 125Hz and 250Hz ? I find the effect great with rock/jazz etc but at times a little heavy on classical. Any comments? John H > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Graham Nelson > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 2:38 PM > Subject: [naktalk] RE: The Last Great British cassette deck - Arcam Delta > 100 > > . But I would > > be interested to hear if Carlos has knowledge and experience of the > > machine - he is one correspondent to this network whose views I respect > > (Hail Carlos! I wish the guy didn't live so far away 'cos he's one dude > I'd > > like to meet!) because he very evidently knows intimately, and has used, a > > great many types and makes of cassette deck. For example, did the Arcam > > Delta 100 really stack up to the standards of a DR1, or even the more > > modestly priced DR2 and DR3? > > Hail Graham ! > > Thank you very much for your kindest words and that includes all the guys > that have e.mail me privately with letters of appreciation. This has been my > hobby and mode of living for more than 20 years,so, you're right when you > say I have stepped over many decks. Well, I'm not that old either ... > > I surely know about the Delta 100. I t was the last serious attempt on a > $1,000+ cassette deck in our era. Arcam stopped its production about 5 years > ago and I remember my friend > Michael Zeugin from Audio Influx in New York, former US distributor for > Arcam, trying pushing me a Delta 100. > > Reviews were awsome for a british deck. It was simplistic ergonomy like all > Arcam components (I really love their CD players and tuners) .I still have > an Arcam One in my third system here. The specs were good but the price was > a little high to be of any serious consideration to me. Unfortunately, I > never heard one and never became interested in buying one either,so, I may > not be your best source for recommendation. The sound must be more " flat " > than the Naks, as all the europeans decks tends to be, but to be honest we > have to make a shoot out between both to be sure. > > Which one I'll choose ? At this time,today, I'll try one of those new Naks > or a well proven classic like a Dragon or 700 ZXL if the money is there. The > Nak has a better re-sale value than an Arcam, at least in the states (USA). > > Best, > Carlos > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Wed Sep 22 15:15:09 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 09:15:09 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Portable recording Message-ID: <00a701bf04fc$7f4ebec0$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> Sorry if this is inappropriate, but... I just got 'hold of a Nak 550, which renders my Sony WM-D6 redundant. Any interest at $175 + shipping. (The present model WM-D6C, which adds Dolby C but -- I'm told -- has a cheaper transport, lists for $400.) Lovely condition, original leather case, no AC adapter (was an extra-cost option, still available from Sony). David ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Wed Sep 22 20:07:08 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:07:08 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] RE: The Last Great British cassette deck - Arcam Delta 100 References: <000201bf0460$cc666f60$05000006@p4v56> <002601bf04a2$ab699660$992f2ac4@coqui.net> <37E8857D.B1E2AE77@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <005d01bf0525$494d6140$e72f2ac4@coqui.net> You are right John. And more: on the latest Nakamichis' a boost on the extended highs is also noticed, but this is a particular charasteristic the Nak searchers like,so, it is good. For recording I prefer the most flat recorders, like Revoxes, but for playback any cassette nothing like a Dragon. Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: mdhjwh To: Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] RE: The Last Great British cassette deck - Arcam Delta 100 > > > Carlos wrote:>"The sound must be more " flat" than the > Naks, as all the europeans decks tends to be, "< > Hi Carlos, > You have touched on a suspicion I have had for a long > time that some Nak's boost the bottom end on playback. > To my ears ( I have no test equipment other than the > two items on either side of my head) this comes across as a boost > somewhere between 125Hz and 250Hz ? > I find the effect great with rock/jazz etc but at times a little heavy > on classical. > Any comments? > > John H > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Graham Nelson > > To: > > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 2:38 PM > > Subject: [naktalk] RE: The Last Great British cassette deck - Arcam Delta > > 100 > > > > . But I would > > > be interested to hear if Carlos has knowledge and experience of the > > > machine - he is one correspondent to this network whose views I respect > > > (Hail Carlos! I wish the guy didn't live so far away 'cos he's one dude > > I'd > > > like to meet!) because he very evidently knows intimately, and has used, a > > > great many types and makes of cassette deck. For example, did the Arcam > > > Delta 100 really stack up to the standards of a DR1, or even the more > > > modestly priced DR2 and DR3? > > > > Hail Graham ! > > > > Thank you very much for your kindest words and that includes all the guys > > that have e.mail me privately with letters of appreciation. This has been my > > hobby and mode of living for more than 20 years,so, you're right when you > > say I have stepped over many decks. Well, I'm not that old either ... > > > > I surely know about the Delta 100. I t was the last serious attempt on a > > $1,000+ cassette deck in our era. Arcam stopped its production about 5 years > > ago and I remember my friend > > Michael Zeugin from Audio Influx in New York, former US distributor for > > Arcam, trying pushing me a Delta 100. > > > > Reviews were awsome for a british deck. It was simplistic ergonomy like all > > Arcam components (I really love their CD players and tuners) .I still have > > an Arcam One in my third system here. The specs were good but the price was > > a little high to be of any serious consideration to me. Unfortunately, I > > never heard one and never became interested in buying one either,so, I may > > not be your best source for recommendation. The sound must be more " flat " > > than the Naks, as all the europeans decks tends to be, but to be honest we > > have to make a shoot out between both to be sure. > > > > Which one I'll choose ? At this time,today, I'll try one of those new Naks > > or a well proven classic like a Dragon or 700 ZXL if the money is there. The > > Nak has a better re-sale value than an Arcam, at least in the states (USA). > > > > Best, > > Carlos > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Wed Sep 22 23:28:27 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:28:27 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Nak re-sale values In-Reply-To: <002601bf04a2$ab699660$992f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <000101bf0541$7b639480$05000006@p4v56> Carlos wrote: The Nak has a better re-sale value than an Arcam, at least in the > states (USA). > > This is true also in the UK, where they sell at prices even higher than in the States. Where you may see a Dragon for, say, $800-$900, in the UK it will be more like £1000+ . However, I don't think the difference is so big as to make it worthwhile shipping a container load of them over here! Graham ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Fri Sep 24 22:28:26 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 16:28:26 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Hey tapers, that D6 is available again Message-ID: <01d601bf06cb$5b5ccf40$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> The buyer thought it was a DAT, which it of course it's not. It's a terrific portable analog cassette deck, with dual headphone outputs, manual record level control, playback pitch control (!), and lots of other nifty features. Here's the original ad copy: I just got 'hold of a Nak 550, which renders my Sony WM-D6 redundant. Any interest at $175 + shipping? (The present model WM-D6C, which adds Dolby C but -- I'm told -- has a cheaper transport, lists for $400.) Lovely condition, original leather case, no AC adapter (was an extra-cost option, still available from Sony). More info can be had at the Sony site: http://www.sel.sony.com/SEL/consumer/ss5/generic/walkmanrtmstereos/walkmanrt mrecordingstereos/index.shtml David ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Fri Sep 24 23:02:18 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 17:02:18 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] D6 gone again Message-ID: <023501bf06d0$169b3d60$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> ssia ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From NakamiKaze at hotmail.com Fri Sep 24 22:07:59 1999 From: NakamiKaze at hotmail.com (Matyas) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 22:07:59 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Long life to the unnoficial Nak's pages ! Message-ID: <19990924214257.20412.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi fellows Nakamikazes Exciting to see that two years ago Wouter had great generosity & will to bring us the Nakamichi Unnoficial Cassette Deck Page It is nearly an half year that for numerous months, I used to realy often masturbate my soul with Nak-spirit & pictures ¦^---o ... I 'm running better since I own the Dragon !(december '98) 582 before ('97) And to see messages from you all is a grand aknowledgement for me that never owned a nak on their hey day ...I 'm 24 years old, and from '93 an hard lover of Nak's aura Keep on the good work ! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From NakamiKaze at hotmail.com Fri Sep 24 23:36:55 1999 From: NakamiKaze at hotmail.com (Matyas) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 23:36:55 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] MAAC...? Message-ID: <19990924214301.60804.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi ! I want to submit you a question I never seen asked before, it's about the MAAC system, Marantz Auto Azimuth Correction I 've read in an old audiophile mag a panorama of history & phillosophy of differents audio companies, a chart about Marentz tells that they had patented many innovations, one of them is the automatic azimuth correction for cassette decks, that they lisence to others companies( ? ) At the time I read that, I was very surprised and now, I want let you navigates to a japanese link I loss accidentally and refound last day, difficult to find with European or US meta engines http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/dragon.htm Marentz sd 930 under Dragon NAAC / MAAC same fight , witch from who ? any informations ? I think it is a rare deck and that some sweet traductions... are wellcome ;o) Best regards Matyas ps: Did anyone in switzerland have some sd 930 for sale to a poor audio electronician apprentice ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bilner at aol.com Sat Sep 25 00:22:06 1999 From: bilner at aol.com (bilner at aol.com) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 18:22:06 EDT Subject: [naktalk] CD-1 control panel door alignment? Message-ID: I finally found a mint CD-1. The only problem is that the door that swings down to expose the controls is out of alignment. When you close it, it doesn't close all the way on one side -- it's not flush -- there's a gap where it meets the face of the deck that's bigger on one side thatn the other. Is there an adjustment on the hinge? The door seems to be metal, so it's not like it's warpage due to being made of plastic. Of course, I could leave it open all the time. Thanks, Bill ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sat Sep 25 01:48:26 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:48:26 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Anyone interested ? Message-ID: <00af01bf06e7$4c94dea0$672f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello Fellows: Anyone out there interested in a Nakamichi 500, 700 and 700 II in good working condition ? Best, Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sat Sep 25 01:52:59 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:52:59 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXL Message-ID: <00b501bf06e7$f209be00$672f2ac4@coqui.net> Hello Fellows: I just get in my hands a pristine condition 700 ZXL. Unfortunately, the man supplied me with a copy of a 700 ZXE manual. Both are very similar but the ZXL has some options that the present manual does not address. Can somebody tell me how to storage in memory the different tape alingments (a,b, c & d) ? What is the proper procedure of adjustment ? azymuth first and then run or just " Run " prior to recording ? Until now I have make everything by common sense and experience but I need to confirm my actions. Best, Carlos < The Tape Man > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From RCD12948 at aol.com Sat Sep 25 01:46:40 1999 From: RCD12948 at aol.com (RCD12948 at aol.com) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 19:46:40 EDT Subject: [naktalk] DR-10 Message-ID: Anyone have any experience with a door that refuses to open on a DR-10? It performs flawlessly just by putting the cassette in the machine and pressing fast-forward or rewind. However when the tape is played or recorded, many times the well door re- fuses to open unless the left side of the deck is picked up by about 1/2 inch and dropped. This causes a click inside the Nak and the door then will open. Hardly an elegant solution! Thanks for any input. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From garcia at tusa.org Sat Sep 25 02:04:09 1999 From: garcia at tusa.org (Bill Roehl) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 20:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [naktalk] BX-100 squeaking... In-Reply-To: <00af01bf06e7$4c94dea0$672f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: My newly aquired BX-100 likes to squeak when it plays tapes... What could be the causes and remedies for this problem? - Bill - email - garcia at tusa.org http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org icq - 11398156 I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up with her shit. * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From AGloop at aol.com Sat Sep 25 03:10:05 1999 From: AGloop at aol.com (AGloop at aol.com) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 1999 21:10:05 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #47 Message-ID: <43f66711.251d7aed@aol.com> Fellow Naks: Relatively simple question, I think: Can anyone tell me what's the difference, if any, between a CR-2 and a CR-2A??? I've also seen 'E' models. What do these letters mean? Are there any different features among them?? Now a little tougher: I also remeber reading somewhere (perhaps on this list) about a model CR-9. However, I dont see it on the nak.com homepage. Does this model even exist?? If it does, can anyone explain why it isnt on the nak.com page??? Regards, AGloop at aol.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From TRANSPLATA at aol.com Sat Sep 25 07:19:13 1999 From: TRANSPLATA at aol.com (TRANSPLATA at aol.com) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 01:19:13 EDT Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXL Message-ID: <7c741c25.251db551@aol.com> Carlitos: Send me your fax number and I will fax you the instructions for the 700zxl. Saludos Jean-Pierre in Los Angeles ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From TRANSPLATA at aol.com Sat Sep 25 07:49:25 1999 From: TRANSPLATA at aol.com (TRANSPLATA at aol.com) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 01:49:25 EDT Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXL Message-ID: <428284c0.251dbc65@aol.com> Carlitos if you send me your fax # I will send you the instructions for the 700ZXL Saludos Jean-Pierre in LA ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Sat Sep 25 13:34:54 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 07:34:54 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #47 References: <43f66711.251d7aed@aol.com> Message-ID: <002701bf0749$fd2aa260$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> If it's anything like the CR-7 series, the "A" & "E" suffixes indicate the country or region for which the unit was built. i.e., all CR-7A decks are CR-7s, but not vice-versa. I've never heard of a CR-9 dd ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 9:10 PM Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #47 > Fellow Naks: > > Relatively simple question, I think: Can anyone tell me what's the > difference, if any, between a CR-2 and a CR-2A??? I've also seen 'E' models. > What do these letters mean? Are there any different features among them?? > > Now a little tougher: I also remeber reading somewhere (perhaps on this list) > about a model CR-9. However, I dont see it on the nak.com homepage. Does this > model even exist?? If it does, can anyone explain why it isnt on the nak.com > page??? > > Regards, > AGloop at aol.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sat Sep 25 15:06:10 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:06:10 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXL References: <428284c0.251dbc65@aol.com> Message-ID: <002901bf0756$bdbfaaa0$b92f2ac4@coqui.net> Thank you, Jean Pierre: My fax number is (787)885-2316 at my office. Sometimes it take the fax automatically,sometimes not. You may try and let me know. I fully appreciate your help ! Muchas Gracias ! Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 1:49 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] 700 ZXL > Carlitos if you send me your fax # I will send you the instructions for the > 700ZXL > Saludos > Jean-Pierre in LA > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From HerbChong at compuserve.com Sat Sep 25 15:48:42 1999 From: HerbChong at compuserve.com (Herb Chong) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:48:42 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXL Message-ID: <199909250948_MC2-8643-BAD9@compuserve.com> the general recommendation is to use the azimuth adjustment every time you record, but the full ABLE (azimuth, bias, level, and equalization) adjustment every time you change tape batches from what you have stored in memory. i'm still looking for a hard copy of a 700ZXL owners and service manual myself. i got my 700ZXL used with the external Dolby C unit and had to figure out everything myself based on a review in Audio from 1980. Herb.... ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Sat Sep 25 18:56:40 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 12:56:40 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXL References: <199909250948_MC2-8643-BAD9@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <000b01bf0776$f0c8f3a0$2a2f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Herb Chong To: Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 9:48 AM Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXL > the general recommendation is to use the azimuth adjustment every time you > record, but the full ABLE (azimuth, bias, level, and equalization) > adjustment every time you change tape batches from what you have stored in > memory. I know this already Herb, but, what I want to know is how you store each different alingment in the memory (A,B,C & D). Anyway, thank you very much for your input. Best, Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From HerbChong at compuserve.com Sat Sep 25 21:14:57 1999 From: HerbChong at compuserve.com (Herb Chong) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 15:14:57 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXL Message-ID: <199909251515_MC2-8646-BE36@compuserve.com> to do a calibration, put it into record pause mode, hold down Run and release the Pause. after calibration is complete, hold down Set and the memory letter to store. when the light above the letter goes on, the calibration has been stored. Herb.... ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Carlos Did you ever have any problem with the auto azymuth alingment mechanism ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Herb Chong To: Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] 700 ZXL > to do a calibration, put it into record pause mode, hold down Run and > release the Pause. after calibration is complete, hold down Set and the > memory letter to store. when the light above the letter goes on, the > calibration has been stored. > > Herb.... > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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Heading back to be seated in the rear of the room........Damon ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From countach at ptd.net Sun Sep 26 06:30:55 1999 From: countach at ptd.net (Jonathan Strack) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 00:30:55 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Wanted to Buy: Nice Nak deck Message-ID: <001101bf07d7$ecc72360$e22cbacc@strack> Hello, I am a fellow nak man, and I am looking for either a ZX-7, ZX-9, 700 ZXE/ZXL, or 1000 ZXE/ZXL/ZXL Limited to buy. If you have one for sale, or know of one, either post one on naktalk, or e-mail me at countach at ptd.net Thanks alot, Jon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From HerbChong at compuserve.com Sun Sep 26 14:00:34 1999 From: HerbChong at compuserve.com (Herb Chong) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 08:00:34 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXL Message-ID: <199909260800_MC2-8653-AF8E@compuserve.com> no, i haven't had any problems, but i don't use the deck a whole lot either. i have trouble calibrating to my TDK MA-R90s though, and that is why i have been looking for the service manual. i think the dealer where it was last tuned used a set of tapes that were unusually low in their bias requirements. modern tapes calibrate fine. Herb.... ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Sun Sep 26 23:33:00 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 22:33:00 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000201bf0866$bb604c40$05000006@p4v56> Greetings! Some of you bro's was asking where to buy TDK MA-XG90s. A UK based company called The Pricebusters is selling them from three of their shops (London, Harrow and Manchester) and by mail order from the Harrow shop. The latter is at: 1 Crystal Way Elmgrove Road Harrow HA1 2RJ UK Tel: +181-424-8219 Fax: +181-863-2443 There is no e-mail address published. Cost of the tapes are UK £7.75 each plus post & packing They accept Visa and MasterCard. (Are these tapes so very much better than the TDK MA's, to justify being £6.55 dearer?) Graham ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From garcia at tusa.org Mon Sep 27 01:27:03 1999 From: garcia at tusa.org (Bill Roehl) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 19:27:03 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [naktalk] BX-100. Message-ID: I can't get my BX-100 to rewind. It FF's and Plays fine and even will move the turning things, but when I put a tape in there, it just stops... Any ideas? - Bill - email - garcia at tusa.org http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org icq - 11398156 I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up with her shit. * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From dnanan at yahoo.com Mon Sep 27 04:32:03 1999 From: dnanan at yahoo.com (Durga Nanan) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 19:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19990927023203.26138.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> I recently acquired a Nakamichi TD350 together with a MF31. The TD350 is a car tapedeck and the MF31 is a 6 disk player that is together with the tape deck. I cannot seem to find any information on these players. Could anyone help? Durga __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Tzzydzzy at aol.com Mon Sep 27 06:43:56 1999 From: Tzzydzzy at aol.com (Tzzydzzy at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 00:43:56 EDT Subject: [naktalk] English Cassette Deck Message-ID: <886ee6fe.2520500c@aol.com> << Any of you ever run 'the last great English' cassette deck? (I can't remember the brand name) >> I have seen the Lindsley Hood brand name mentioned in Wireless World a British magazine. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From autofile at TheAutophile.com Mon Sep 27 07:08:20 1999 From: autofile at TheAutophile.com (Peter Lufrano) Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 22:08:20 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Re: In-Reply-To: <19990927023203.26138.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> References: <19990927023203.26138.rocketmail@web107.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: >I recently acquired a Nakamichi TD350 together with a >MF31. The TD350 is a car tapedeck and the MF31 is a 6 >disk player that is together with the tape deck. I >cannot seem to find any information on these players. >Could anyone help? > >Durga What would you like to know? Peter Lufrano -Owner The Autophile http://www.TheAutophile.com ***High End Car Audio!*** *Dynaudio*a/d/s*Genesis*Milbert*Velodyne*Kimber Kable*ZAPCO* *TubeDriver*Linear Power*Powerclass*Focal*CD Technologies* ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de Mon Sep 27 08:26:46 1999 From: Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de (Fendt Klaus) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:26:46 +0200 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? Message-ID: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F5@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Matyas, many years ago I owned a large set of german HiFi mags and after reading your post I remember this Marantz deck: There are only a few points which I can think about: DRAGON's azimuth correction mechanism is made with a servo motor; a disadvantage of this mechanism is that the DRAGON has to spend more time to achieve the correct azimuth. In addition to that you can hear the motor working during the correction. The Marantz MAAC system is made with a piezo instead of the motor - as I remember the piezo system works very fast without any noises. A pity that the article was only a few lines so I don't know how the Marantz recorder competed. The original price of the Marantz machine was about half of the DRAON's price. Keep on Naking Klaus > Hi ! > I want to submit you a question I never seen asked before, it's > about the MAAC system, > Marantz Auto Azimuth Correction > I 've read in an old audiophile mag a panorama of history & phillosophy of > differents audio companies, a chart about Marentz tells that they had > patented many innovations, one of them is the automatic azimuth correction > for cassette decks, that they lisence to others companies( ? ) > At the time I read that, I was very surprised and now, I want let you > navigates to a japanese link I loss accidentally and refound last day, > difficult to find with European or US meta engines > http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/dragon.htm > Marentz sd 930 under Dragon NAAC / MAAC same fight , witch from > who ? > any informations ? I think it is a rare deck and that some sweet > traductions... are wellcome ;o) > Best regards > Matyas > ps: > Did anyone in switzerland have some sd 930 for sale to a poor audio > electronician apprentice ? > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de Mon Sep 27 08:36:23 1999 From: Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de (Fendt Klaus) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:36:23 +0200 Subject: AW: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #47 Message-ID: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F6@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Correct - to complete the information: The "E" models where built for the european market. As I remember nearly all later Nak devices (when Nak startet to offer complete systems) got this letter added. In germany there where several decks with the "E", here are the tape decks: The RX series The BX series The CR series (I can't remember a CR-9E) Klaus > If it's anything like the CR-7 series, the "A" & "E" suffixes indicate the > country or region for which the unit was built. > i.e., all CR-7A decks are CR-7s, but not vice-versa. > I've never heard of a CR-9 > dd > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 9:10 PM > Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #47 > > > > Fellow Naks: > > > > Relatively simple question, I think: Can anyone tell me what's the > > difference, if any, between a CR-2 and a CR-2A??? I've also seen 'E' > models. > > What do these letters mean? Are there any different features among > them?? > > > > Now a little tougher: I also remeber reading somewhere (perhaps on this > list) > > about a model CR-9. However, I dont see it on the nak.com homepage. Does > this > > model even exist?? If it does, can anyone explain why it isnt on the > nak.com > > page??? > > > > Regards, > > AGloop at aol.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > == > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > == > ======= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Mon Sep 27 09:48:05 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:48:05 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] BX-100. References: Message-ID: <00b501bf08bc$a2d1de40$101032d4@infosysbank.com> Change the idler. George ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Roehl To: Sent: 27 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 01:27 Subject: [naktalk] BX-100. > > I can't get my BX-100 to rewind. It FF's and Plays fine and even > will move the turning things, but when I put a tape in there, it just > stops... Any ideas? > > - Bill - > > email - garcia at tusa.org > http - http://www.gargoyle.dyndns.org > icq - 11398156 > > I used to get high on life but lately I've built up a resistance. > > No matter how good she looks, some other guy is sick and tired of putting up > with her shit. > * Men's Room, Linda's Bar and Grill. Chapel Hill, North Carolina. > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de Mon Sep 27 08:51:03 1999 From: Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de (Fendt Klaus) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:51:03 +0200 Subject: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 Message-ID: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F7@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> I think that these very-high-priced TDK tapes which are not really up to date when you compare them with the modern ones. Perhaps you remember the old Sony UX-Pro position II tapes. On my decks (DRAGON and ZX-9) I achieve a much more natural sound with these chrome substitute tapes instead of TDK's MA-R (these was the first version of aluminium frame based metal tapes from TDK) or MA-XG. A question to all of you: What do you think about using type II or type IV tapes on your Naks. Ever heard a tape called Sony metal ES? I liked this one very much when I bought a couple of them many years ago Klaus > Greetings! > > Some of you bro's was asking where to buy TDK MA-XG90s. A UK based > company > called The Pricebusters is selling them from three of their shops > (London, > Harrow and Manchester) and by mail order from the Harrow shop. The latter > is at: > > 1 Crystal Way > Elmgrove Road > Harrow > HA1 2RJ > UK > > Tel: +181-424-8219 > Fax: +181-863-2443 > > There is no e-mail address published. > > Cost of the tapes are UK £7.75 each plus post & packing > > They accept Visa and MasterCard. > > (Are these tapes so very much better than the TDK MA's, to justify being > £6.55 dearer?) > > Graham > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Mon Sep 27 11:11:07 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:11:07 +1000 Subject: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F7@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Message-ID: <37EF34AA.4B870595@ozemail.com.au> Fendt Klaus wrote: > >Ever heard a tape called Sony metal > ES? I liked this one very much when I bought > a couple of them many years ago< > Yes . They were excellent . I have a few dozen with irreplaceable pipe organ and harpsichord recitals on them . In Australia they weren't on the market for very long. I can make cheep ferric tapes sound great on the Dragon so I'm not inclined to spend big money on tapes any more. (unless I'm recording live, which is seldom these days.) Just wish that the aluminum frame had been wrapped around a range of tapes. Wishful thinking at the sunset of a technology. .. .... ... .. . . . (It's interesting that the greatest advances in LP playback have been made at a time when the LP is supposed to be dead.) You never know what.we could talk Nakamichi into releasing " the last great cassette tape".Theyhad TDK make them a select batch of Metal tapes under the Nakamichi label for a short period. Who owns the new Nakamichi company ? and how responsive are they to input from Naktalkers? / ? Hail Fellow Nakamaniacs and closet LP Lovers. John H. > I think that these very-high-priced TDK tapes which are not really up to > date when you compare them with the modern ones. Perhaps you remember the > old Sony UX-Pro position II tapes. On my decks (DRAGON and ZX-9) I achieve a > much more natural sound with these chrome substitute tapes instead of TDK's > MA-R (these was the first version of aluminium frame based metal tapes from > TDK) or MA-XG. > > A question to all of you: What do you think about using type II or type IV > tapes on your Naks. Ever heard a tape called Sony metal ES? I liked this one > very much when I bought a couple of them many years ago > > Klaus > > > Greetings! > > > > Some of you bro's was asking where to buy TDK MA-XG90s. A UK based > > company > > called The Pricebusters is selling them from three of their shops > > (London, > > Harrow and Manchester) and by mail order from the Harrow shop. The latter > > is at: > > > > 1 Crystal Way > > Elmgrove Road > > Harrow > > HA1 2RJ > > UK > > > > Tel: +181-424-8219 > > Fax: +181-863-2443 > > > > There is no e-mail address published. > > > > Cost of the tapes are UK £7.75 each plus post & packing > > > > They accept Visa and MasterCard. > > > > (Are these tapes so very much better than the TDK MA's, to justify being > > £6.55 dearer?) > > > > Graham > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From targowski at mediaone.net Mon Sep 27 13:05:04 1999 From: targowski at mediaone.net (targowski) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:05:04 -0500 Subject: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F7@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Message-ID: <37EF4F60.CEE96872@mediaone.net> In my opinion, MA-XG is better than whatever is on the market today, as you refer to it "modern ones". It is a pity, but nowadays, at least in the US, it is harder and harder to find any higher end tapes. The best metals I can think of, that are widely available are TDK MA (typically in a thin 110 version), Maxell MX/MX-S, and not much more. MA-XG is more or less a MA-X with a metal frame around it, similarly as MA-R used to be an old MA with a metal frame around it. MA-X line was much more modern than the 79/80's line of first generation metals as MA-R. The key idea of aluminum frames was to prevent magnetic fields inside the cassette, thus prevent the process of magnetization of the tape, especially over time - (law of physics state that there is no magnetic field inside a closed metal case.) Two other brands that come to mind, that used to produce similar cassettes, i.e., aluminum case, circa late 1980's, were SONY with its Metal-Master, and Maxell with Vertex tapes. Sony Metal ES was a pretty decent tape, although I would pick MA-X over it. This is a personal opinion. Stan Fendt Klaus wrote: > I think that these very-high-priced TDK tapes which are not really up to > date when you compare them with the modern ones. Perhaps you remember the > old Sony UX-Pro position II tapes. On my decks (DRAGON and ZX-9) I achieve a > much more natural sound with these chrome substitute tapes instead of TDK's > MA-R (these was the first version of aluminium frame based metal tapes from > TDK) or MA-XG. > > A question to all of you: What do you think about using type II or type IV > tapes on your Naks. Ever heard a tape called Sony metal ES? I liked this one > very much when I bought a couple of them many years ago > > Klaus > > > Greetings! > > > > Some of you bro's was asking where to buy TDK MA-XG90s. A UK based > > company > > called The Pricebusters is selling them from three of their shops > > (London, > > Harrow and Manchester) and by mail order from the Harrow shop. The latter > > is at: > > > > 1 Crystal Way > > Elmgrove Road > > Harrow > > HA1 2RJ > > UK > > > > Tel: +181-424-8219 > > Fax: +181-863-2443 > > > > There is no e-mail address published. > > > > Cost of the tapes are UK £7.75 each plus post & packing > > > > They accept Visa and MasterCard. > > > > (Are these tapes so very much better than the TDK MA's, to justify being > > £6.55 dearer?) > > > > Graham > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ========= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Sep 27 14:07:26 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:07:26 -0400 Subject: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F7@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <37EF4F60.CEE96872@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <003701bf08e0$dd708aa0$102f2ac4@coqui.net> > > A question to all of you: What do you think about using type II or type IV > > tapes on your Naks. Well, I custom load mines at my factory with Maxell XL-II using the best shell the industry offres to duplicators like me: Shape Mark 10. Sounds wonderful and very azymuth stable. I have send some to Mr. Blues and he can tell you about it ! Have about 25 MA-XG but I don't use it that much: very abbrasive on the heads and it's so heavy that I can not play them in the car,so, only did a couple of masters and that's it ! Anyway, anything I put in my decks sounds good,so, why bother with $10.00 cassettes ? Best, Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Sep 27 14:08:18 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:08:18 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] English Cassette Deck References: <886ee6fe.2520500c@aol.com> Message-ID: <004301bf08e0$fcac25a0$102f2ac4@coqui.net> The Arcam Delta or the Neal Ferrograph ? Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 12:43 AM Subject: [naktalk] English Cassette Deck > << Any of you ever run 'the last great English' cassette deck? > (I can't remember the brand name) >> > I have seen the Lindsley Hood brand name mentioned in Wireless World a > British magazine. > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From k.-h.herrmann at fz-juelich.de Mon Sep 27 14:08:09 1999 From: k.-h.herrmann at fz-juelich.de (Karl-Heinz Herrmann) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 14:08:09 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 In-Reply-To: <37EF4F60.CEE96872@mediaone.net> Message-ID: Hi nak's, On 27-Sep-99 targowski wrote: > especially over time - (law of physics state that there is no magnetic > field inside a closed metal case.) Err... that's not correct. Inside a closed metal (anything conducting will do) there is no *electrical* field *if* there are no isolated charged things there. No metall can shield magnetic field -- the magnetic field will be weaker (or stronger -> ferromagnetic) inside the metal. It wont affect any magnetic field produced by the magnetisation of tpae inside a metal case. You will get the same copy effect form one layer of tape to the next one. What a metal case can do is lower the effect of external magnetic fields and therefore the degradation of a recording due to erasing by external field. (Does anyone know how tape material itself is behaving longterm?). Dont't put them on your speaker anyway :-) The only thing completely free of magnetic fields is inside a superconductor (not in the cavity -- really in the material). regards, Karl-Heinz ---------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: Karl-Heinz Herrmann Date: 27-Sep-99 Time: 13:59:19 ---------------------------------------------------------- ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ats99001 at uconnvm.uconn.edu Mon Sep 27 17:18:02 1999 From: ats99001 at uconnvm.uconn.edu (Andrew Smith) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:18:02 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] 581z References: <199909270637.IAA25000@zebra.naks.com> Message-ID: <002101bf08ff$3f4607a0$519a6389@localnet> Hi folks. I have recieved this deck. It is a beauty. I understand better why Naks are so highly regarded. It blows my BX-1 out of the water, sound wise. Only one problem has shown itself. It grinds when it reaches the end of the tape after fastforwarding. This doesn't happen with rewinding, or when the tape reaches the end at normal speed. What could be the cause of it, and should I be concerned? Other than that it works great. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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To shield a magnetic field you'll need iron, copper or mu-metal. Alu frames are much more stabile than plastic ones and has a better look, that's are reason to develop them. But nowedays it's too expensive for TDK, because a few people buy these nice cassette's... Maurits ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Mon Sep 27 19:25:40 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 13:25:40 -0400 Subject: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F7@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <37EF4F60.CEE96872@mediaone.net> <006101bf0904$140e3da0$5b8286c2@telekabel.nl> Message-ID: <000701bf090d$52c17c20$142f2ac4@coqui.net> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: targowski > To: > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 1:05 PM > Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 > > > > Alu cannot be magnetized like ferro (iron) materials. To Alu frames are much > more stabile than plastic ones and has a better look, that's are reason > to develop them. Also remember that part of this "Super Cassettes" propaganda were their azymuth " stability " since many of them has at least 5 different parts assembly together. Tape path consistency with your deck were one of their great attributes. Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Mon Sep 27 20:25:06 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:25:06 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 & others..... Message-ID: Greetings! Yes, Carlos is "on target" with his statement about Cr02 tape use. Very excellent results can be accomplished using Cr02's like Maxell's XLII or XLIIS (my favorites for nearly 25 years). Carlos spun me a demo tape that I received last weekend, and whew!!! I'm impressed with what I hear - Carlos.... Merci :-} Just goes to show that its the proper use of equipment (components and media) that makes all the difference when it comes to excellence. More below...... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:07:26 -0400 From: "Carlos" Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 > > A question to all of you: What do you think about using type II or type IV > > tapes on your Naks. Well, I custom load mines at my factory with Maxell XL-II using the best shell the industry offers to duplicators like me: Shape Mark 10. Sounds wonderful and very azymuth stable. I have send some to Mr. Blues and he can tell you about it ! The Shape Mark 10 cassette shell is clear, and quite solid. I wish these were for sale, with high-grade tape inside (can they be, Mr. Tape Man???). > I Have about 25 MA-XG but I don't use it that much: very abbrasive on the heads and it's so heavy that I can not play them in the car,so, only did a couple of masters and that's it! Ouch, that kind of cassette would be a pain to handle. What's with the abrasive action, that doesn't sound very nice for any cassette deck......... > Anyway, anything I put in my decks sounds good,so, why bother with $10.00 cassettes ? I agree, there's a limit to when the return diminishes below the threshold of reasonable investment. Anyway, I've been using Maxell products since I was a youngster, and most of those XLII's & XLIIS's are still in fine shape. Some of us never get beyond our own noses with these things though, so anyone else who has an opinion is certainly a worthwhile listen to me! Any other NakYakkers have a varying viewpoint? Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > Best, > Carlos ------------------------------ End of naktalk-digest V1 #50 **************************** Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From winfried.schoepf at unisys.co.at Mon Sep 27 23:07:38 1999 From: winfried.schoepf at unisys.co.at (Winfried Schoepf) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:07:38 +0200 Subject: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 & others..... Message-ID: <01BF093D.34C2CD20@AT-VIE-SCHOEPFW.mk.unisys.com> Hello fans, I have used many Maxell UD and XL II. I found that the XL II are excellent and they did no degrade noticeably over time ( = 15+ years). Nowadays I use TDK MA. The "head cleaner part" on the UD I find questionable. The MA is to me the ideal tape for the occasional user like me (price vs. quality). Have yet to find out about the durability (like the XL II over many years). I am interested in qualified opinions about durability of tapes over more than 10 years. Mr. Carlos' and Blues Swapper's opionions perhaps ?? Off the NAK subject: (this is now purely British agenda): Is anyone interested in a NEAL Ferrograph model 302 complete with user and service manuals (both original) ? Willing to part with it for any reasonable offer. (Not in use because of slightly a more convenient 680ZX) respect Winfried -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: The BlueSwapper [SMTP:blueswapper at angelfire.com] Gesendet am: Montag, 27. September 1999 20:25 An: naktalk at naks.com Cc: copytec at coqui.net; blueswapper at angelfire.com Betreff: Re:[naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 & others..... Greetings! Yes, Carlos is "on target" with his statement about Cr02 tape use. Very excellent results can be accomplished using Cr02's like Maxell's XLII or XLIIS (my favorites for nearly 25 years). Carlos spun me a demo tape that I received last weekend, and whew!!! I'm impressed with what I hear - Carlos.... Merci :-} Just goes to show that its the proper use of equipment (components and media) that makes all the difference when it comes to excellence. More below...... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:07:26 -0400 From: "Carlos" Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 > > A question to all of you: What do you think about using type II or type IV > > tapes on your Naks. Well, I custom load mines at my factory with Maxell XL-II using the best shell the industry offers to duplicators like me: Shape Mark 10. Sounds wonderful and very azymuth stable. I have send some to Mr. Blues and he can tell you about it ! The Shape Mark 10 cassette shell is clear, and quite solid. I wish these were for sale, with high-grade tape inside (can they be, Mr. Tape Man???). > I Have about 25 MA-XG but I don't use it that much: very abbrasive on the heads and it's so heavy that I can not play them in the car,so, only did a couple of masters and that's it! Ouch, that kind of cassette would be a pain to handle. What's with the abrasive action, that doesn't sound very nice for any cassette deck......... > Anyway, anything I put in my decks sounds good,so, why bother with $10.00 cassettes ? I agree, there's a limit to when the return diminishes below the threshold of reasonable investment. Anyway, I've been using Maxell products since I was a youngster, and most of those XLII's & XLIIS's are still in fine shape. Some of us never get beyond our own noses with these things though, so anyone else who has an opinion is certainly a worthwhile listen to me! Any other NakYakkers have a varying viewpoint? Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > Best, > Carlos ------------------------------ End of naktalk-digest V1 #50 **************************** Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Mon Sep 27 23:49:20 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:49:20 +1000 Subject: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F7@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <37EF4F60.CEE96872@mediaone.net> <006101bf0904$140e3da0$5b8286c2@telekabel.nl> Message-ID: <37EFE660.672A7A4@ozemail.com.au> The Metal frames also had the advantage of reducing vibration. Mass is often used for this in LP, CD and DVD transports. John H Maurits wrote:> The key idea of aluminum frames was to prevent magnetic fields inside, > t ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mraven at telekabel.nl Tue Sep 28 00:23:53 1999 From: mraven at telekabel.nl (Maurits) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 00:23:53 +0200 Subject: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F7@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <37EF4F60.CEE96872@mediaone.net> <006101bf0904$140e3da0$5b8286c2@telekabel.nl> <37EFE660.672A7A4@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <003101bf0936$fba1eb80$5b8286c2@telekabel.nl> ----- Original Message ----- From: mdhjwh To: Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:49 PM Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 > The Metal frames also had the advantage of reducing vibration. > Mass is often used for this in LP, CD and DVD transports. > John H > > Maurits wrote:> The key idea of aluminum frames was to prevent magnetic fields inside, > Please learn to quote; I didn't wrote that line. Maurits ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Tue Sep 28 01:29:50 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 16:29:50 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Cr02 tape & others..... Message-ID: Greetings! Just wanted to add another piece of opinion/advice regarding high quality Cr02 cassette tapes. I consider the Maxell products the best in overall analog reproduction performance and physical longevity. During the last twenty years, I can think of only two instances when Maxell XLIIS cassettes have let me down. I do a fair amount of music swapping (ho, ho, now you know....), where I prefer reciprocating XLIIS's with my music swapping friends. I've accumulated nearly two hundred 60s & 90s over the years, and that's a rather good percentage of sustained excellence. One of the best current sources for Maxell products is American Digital Corporation, website at: , where prices for XLII and XLIIS 60s/90s are rock bottom when you buy a bunch at a time. Even with shipping/insurance, you can pay less than $1.75 each!!! And ADC responds phenomenally; like I order via internet, and I've got my goods within 48 hours via UPS delivery. I order analog and digital media from the boys at ADC, and I'm a very pleased customer. Try 'em, they've got it together! Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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It blows my BX-1 out of the water, sound >wise. Only one problem has shown itself. It grinds when it reaches the >end of the tape after fastforwarding. This doesn't happen with rewinding, >or when the tape reaches the end at normal speed. What could be the cause >of it, and should I be concerned? Other than that it works great. > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Sep 28 04:42:57 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:42:57 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 & others..... References: <01BF093D.34C2CD20@AT-VIE-SCHOEPFW.mk.unisys.com> Message-ID: <002901bf095b$2cdb32a0$702f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: Winfried Schoepf To: Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 5:07 PM Subject: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 & others..... > Hello fans, > > I am interested in qualified opinions about durability of tapes over more than 10 years. Mr. Carlos' and Blues Swapper's opionions perhaps ?? Hi Winfried ! In my experience: I still have the first cassette I ever recorded at home (20 + years+ and it was in a late AD-C 46 from TDK and still sounding very good. I used all kind of tapes, remember Loran & That's ? Denon, Revox, Technics and Nakamichi tapes ? Well, the Maxell is an everybody's favorite but I remember used once a whole box of Fuji FR Metal and it blew me away ! Durability is related to your storage conditions but Maxell, TDK and Fuji has proved to be very reliable to me. Carlos > > Off the NAK subject: (this is now purely British agenda): > Is anyone interested in a NEAL Ferrograph model 302 complete with user and service manuals (both original) ? Willing to part with it for any reasonable offer. (Not in use because of slightly a more convenient 680ZX) > > > respect > Winfried > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: The BlueSwapper [SMTP:blueswapper at angelfire.com] > Gesendet am: Montag, 27. September 1999 20:25 > An: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: copytec at coqui.net; blueswapper at angelfire.com > Betreff: Re:[naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 & others..... > > Greetings! > > Yes, Carlos is "on target" with his statement about Cr02 tape use. Very excellent results can be accomplished using Cr02's like Maxell's XLII or XLIIS (my favorites for nearly 25 years). Carlos spun me a demo tape that I received last weekend, and whew!!! I'm impressed with what I hear - Carlos.... Merci :-} > > Just goes to show that its the proper use of equipment (components and media) that makes all the difference when it comes to excellence. More below...... > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:07:26 -0400 > From: "Carlos" > Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 > > > > A question to all of you: What do you think about using type II or type > IV > > > tapes on your Naks. > > Well, I custom load mines at my factory with Maxell XL-II using the best > shell the industry offers to duplicators like me: Shape Mark 10. Sounds > wonderful and very azymuth stable. I have send some to Mr. Blues and he can > tell you about it ! > > The Shape Mark 10 cassette shell is clear, and quite solid. I wish these were for sale, with high-grade tape inside (can they be, Mr. Tape Man???). > > > > I Have about 25 MA-XG but I don't use it that much: very > abbrasive on the heads and it's so heavy that I can not play them in the > car,so, only did a couple of masters and that's it! > > Ouch, that kind of cassette would be a pain to handle. What's with the abrasive action, that doesn't sound very nice for any cassette deck......... > > > Anyway, anything I put > in my decks sounds good,so, why bother with $10.00 cassettes ? > > I agree, there's a limit to when the return diminishes below the threshold of reasonable investment. Anyway, I've been using Maxell products since I was a youngster, and most of those XLII's & XLIIS's are still in fine shape. Some of us never get beyond our own noses with these things though, so anyone else who has an opinion is certainly a worthwhile listen to me! Any other NakYakkers have a varying viewpoint? > > Blues > > --- > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > Best, > > > Carlos > > ------------------------------ > > End of naktalk-digest V1 #50 > **************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Sep 28 05:13:41 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 23:13:41 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 & others..... References: Message-ID: <003901bf095f$77becf80$702f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: The BlueSwapper To: Cc: ; Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 2:25 PM Subject: Re:[naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 & others..... > Greetings! > > Yes, Carlos is "on target" with his statement about Cr02 tape use. Very excellent results can be accomplished using Cr02's like Maxell's XLII or XLIIS (my favorites for nearly 25 years). Carlos spun me a demo tape that I received last weekend, and whew!!! I'm impressed with what I hear - Carlos.... Merci :-} Thank you, Blues. I really enjoy when a fellow Nakkie or Music Man like me likes what I record for him/her. HEY! Fellows out there, Blues and me just begun already the NakTree, any other one interested to join ? > > The Shape Mark 10 cassette shell is clear, and quite solid. I wish these were for sale, with high-grade tape inside (can they be, Mr. Tape Man???). Yes, Blues, I use to sell custom load cassettes moons ago but the duplication business grew so much that it wasn't affordable any longer, but I can make exceptions. A custom load Shape Mark 10 with Maxell XL-II tape inside (Up to C-90) cost $1.00. Minimum order is 25 pieces and it's made when you order it and specially loaded for you ! I also supply the recording studios with their needs. The first cassette I send you was a BASF Reference Master, specially made for Recording Studios. I sell those too ... Difficult to obtain it for domestic use. Best, Carlos The Tape Man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From targowski at mediaone.net Tue Sep 28 05:48:49 1999 From: targowski at mediaone.net (targowski) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 22:48:49 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Re: how tapes age and about tape deck nostalgia ... References: <01BF093D.34C2CD20@AT-VIE-SCHOEPFW.mk.unisys.com> <002901bf095b$2cdb32a0$702f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <37F03AA1.5B4B22D6@mediaone.net> I couldn't agree more. Premium tapes from TDK, Maxell, and Fuji keep the top honors.. I still have a lot of tapes recorded around 1981-1984, and the best quality preserved is on TDK SA, SA-X, AD, OD, AD-X., Maxell UD-XL-I, UD-XL-II, UD-XL-II-S and Fuji Metal. A pretty respectable tape of these times was also SONY FeCr ... I also have tapes like TDK D, Maxell UD, Agfa Ferrum Color, (Carat) FeCr, Metal, BASF - CrO2, and Super CrO2 and these would be enough worse than the first ones. One thing to remember is that how you store the tapes, and how often you play them back makes a big difference. A good tape kept in the car during a humid summer won't last long. A lousy tape with an award content will preserve better than your top of the line tape with your favorite album played 10 times a day, kept on the top of loudspeaker. The recorder makes a difference too. Growing up in Poland in 1980's (graduated high school in Warsaw in 1984) the semi-attainable dream decks were Pioneer CTF-850/950/1250, Akai GX-F80/90, JVC KD-A77/8, Technics RS-M95, Grundig CF5502, Hitachi D5500M, and last but not least Nakamichi 48x/58x. The top of the line, non-attainable esoteric line, which cost around $1,200-2.500++ a piece, each of my friends' dreams, included Nakamichi N680ZX/ N700 ZXL/N1000ZXL, Luxman 5K50, Teac Z-7000, Neal 340, Tandberg TCD 440A, B&O 8000.. Most of us, who had decks other than Polish versions of Grundig boombox, had $100-200 decks like JVC KD-A11, Pioneer CTF-500, Technics RS-M05/08. We would unscrew the top cover of these decks and play with bias and level by ear to ensure top quality recording. Premium was Technics 3 head RSM-260, and Pioneer CTF850 (you didn't have to use the screw driver.). Tapes recorded on these decks are OK (the initial quality was decent due to 'custom calibration' ...). However, TDK SA's and Maxell UD-XL II's recorded on neighbor's Nakamichi N582 are a stand out.. They still sound great, and better than others. I currently have a CR-2A. Denon 740, and JVC TD-V66. Am looking to get a well priced ZX-9/700ZXE/L (current esoteric dream boxes), and any of the 'dream boxes' from the early 80's listed above, a time when tape decks ruled .... Wouldn't also mind Revox 215, Tandberg 3014, and Nak's CR-7 (or even CR-4). But the latter ones are still too expensive. Carlos wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Winfried Schoepf > To: > Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 5:07 PM > Subject: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 & others..... > > > Hello fans, > > > > I am interested in qualified opinions about durability of tapes over more > than 10 years. Mr. Carlos' and Blues Swapper's opionions perhaps ?? > > Hi Winfried ! > > In my experience: I still have the first cassette I ever recorded at home > (20 + years+ and it was in a late AD-C 46 from TDK and still sounding very > good. I used all kind of tapes, remember Loran & That's ? Denon, Revox, > Technics and Nakamichi tapes ? Well, the Maxell is an everybody's favorite > but I remember used once a whole box of Fuji FR Metal and it blew me away ! > Durability is related to your storage conditions but Maxell, TDK and Fuji > has proved to be very reliable to me. > > Carlos > > > > Off the NAK subject: (this is now purely British agenda): > > Is anyone interested in a NEAL Ferrograph model 302 complete with user and > service manuals (both original) ? Willing to part with it for any reasonable > offer. (Not in use because of slightly a more convenient 680ZX) > > > > > > respect > > Winfried > > > > > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > Von: The BlueSwapper [SMTP:blueswapper at angelfire.com] > > Gesendet am: Montag, 27. September 1999 20:25 > > An: naktalk at naks.com > > Cc: copytec at coqui.net; blueswapper at angelfire.com > > Betreff: Re:[naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 & others..... > > > > Greetings! > > > > Yes, Carlos is "on target" with his statement about Cr02 tape use. Very > excellent results can be accomplished using Cr02's like Maxell's XLII or > XLIIS (my favorites for nearly 25 years). Carlos spun me a demo tape that I > received last weekend, and whew!!! I'm impressed with what I hear - > Carlos.... Merci :-} > > > > Just goes to show that its the proper use of equipment (components and > media) that makes all the difference when it comes to excellence. More > below...... > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:07:26 -0400 > > From: "Carlos" > > Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 > > > > > > A question to all of you: What do you think about using type II or > type > > IV > > > > tapes on your Naks. > > > > Well, I custom load mines at my factory with Maxell XL-II using the best > > shell the industry offers to duplicators like me: Shape Mark 10. Sounds > > wonderful and very azymuth stable. I have send some to Mr. Blues and he > can > > tell you about it ! > > > > The Shape Mark 10 cassette shell is clear, and quite solid. I wish these > were for sale, with high-grade tape inside (can they be, Mr. Tape Man???). > > > > > > > I Have about 25 MA-XG but I don't use it that much: very > > abbrasive on the heads and it's so heavy that I can not play them in the > > car,so, only did a couple of masters and that's it! > > > > Ouch, that kind of cassette would be a pain to handle. What's with the > abrasive action, that doesn't sound very nice for any cassette deck......... > > > > > Anyway, anything I put > > in my decks sounds good,so, why bother with $10.00 cassettes ? > > > > I agree, there's a limit to when the return diminishes below the threshold > of reasonable investment. Anyway, I've been using Maxell products since I > was a youngster, and most of those XLII's & XLIIS's are still in fine shape. > Some of us never get beyond our own noses with these things though, so > anyone else who has an opinion is certainly a worthwhile listen to me! Any > other NakYakkers have a varying viewpoint? > > > > Blues > > > > --- > > Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? > > http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Carlos > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of naktalk-digest V1 #50 > > **************************** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== > ======= > > > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From k.-h.herrmann at fz-juelich.de Tue Sep 28 11:10:03 1999 From: k.-h.herrmann at fz-juelich.de (Karl-Heinz Herrmann) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:10:03 +0200 (MET DST) Subject: [naktalk] BASF In-Reply-To: <19990928074134.52146.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On 28-Sep-99 mick s wrote: > G'day, > > Can anyone explain why BASF, who pioneered the development of Chrome > Tapes, > make such poor sounding (especially at the top end) Chrome tapes? Maybe they use really Chromedioxide? TDK and Maxwell changed for IEC II Tapes to an "epitaxial coated Fe2O3" as far as I know. Reall CrO2 has especially one Problem -- heat. The curie temperature is very low and at summer temperatures in a car you can loose a lot of magnetisation.... But anyway I stopped using BASF a years back when I had to clean out the flakes of magnetic fluff which came off the tape carrier material -- I had a clear view through the tape there :-/ K.-H. ---------------------------------------------------------- E-Mail: Karl-Heinz Herrmann Date: 28-Sep-99 Time: 11:06:24 ---------------------------------------------------------- ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Tue Sep 28 13:01:55 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:01:55 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] BASF References: Message-ID: <005401bf09a0$e146e3c0$111032d4@infosysbank.com> I fully agree with Karl-Heinz - I have thrown out all my BASF tapes long ago - I cannot even begin to describe how bad they are. Maybe just the commercially sold stuff was crap, I wouldn't know about the Reference Master tape Carlos mentioned. Even my BASF Maxima's were useless after a couple of years. George ----- Original Message ----- From: Karl-Heinz Herrmann To: Sent: 28 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 11:10 Subject: RE: [naktalk] BASF > > On 28-Sep-99 mick s wrote: > > G'day, > > > > Can anyone explain why BASF, who pioneered the development of Chrome > > Tapes, > > make such poor sounding (especially at the top end) Chrome tapes? > > Maybe they use really Chromedioxide? TDK and Maxwell changed for IEC II > Tapes to an "epitaxial coated Fe2O3" as far as I know. Reall CrO2 has > especially one Problem -- heat. The curie temperature is very low and at > summer temperatures in a car you can loose a lot of magnetisation.... > > But anyway I stopped using BASF a years back when I had to clean out the > flakes of magnetic fluff which came off the tape carrier material -- I > had a clear view through the tape there :-/ > > K.-H. > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > E-Mail: Karl-Heinz Herrmann > Date: 28-Sep-99 Time: 11:06:24 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. 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TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From brianwinans at hotmail.com Tue Sep 28 13:55:55 1999 From: brianwinans at hotmail.com (brian winans) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 04:55:55 PDT Subject: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 Message-ID: <19990928115556.68271.qmail@hotmail.com> I have a TDK MA-R90 (with the metal frame) that I recorded on a BX-300 10+ years ago, and the tape still sounds as good, if not better than a CD. Anymore, I use Maxell XLII's, with the same BX-300, because I trade tapes and everybody wants these types of tapes. I have to set the bias on my BX-300 to make these tapes sound their best. I never had any problem with the Maxell XLII'2, in terms of sound quality, as long as I adjust the bias on my deck. I have found that the TDK tapes are the best in overall quality,(without setting the bias), but I have never tried the Sony metal tapes. Are they worth checking out? Brian >From: targowski >Reply-To: naktalk at naks.com >To: naktalk at naks.com >Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] TDK MA-XG 90 >Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 06:05:04 -0500 > >In my opinion, MA-XG is better than whatever is on the market today, as you >refer to it >"modern ones". It is a pity, but nowadays, at least in the US, it is harder >and harder >to find any higher end tapes. The best metals I can think of, that are >widely available >are TDK MA (typically in a thin 110 version), Maxell MX/MX-S, and not much >more. > >MA-XG is more or less a MA-X with a metal frame around it, similarly as >MA-R used to be >an old MA with a metal frame around it. MA-X line was much more modern than >the 79/80's >line of first generation metals as MA-R. > >The key idea of aluminum frames was to prevent magnetic fields inside the >cassette, >thus prevent the process of magnetization of the tape, especially over time >- (law of >physics state that there is no magnetic field inside a closed metal case.) > >Two other brands that come to mind, that used to produce similar cassettes, >i.e., >aluminum case, circa late 1980's, were SONY with its Metal-Master, and >Maxell with >Vertex tapes. > >Sony Metal ES was a pretty decent tape, although I would pick MA-X over it. >This is a >personal opinion. > >Stan > >Fendt Klaus wrote: > > > I think that these very-high-priced TDK tapes which are not really up to > > date when you compare them with the modern ones. Perhaps you remember >the > > old Sony UX-Pro position II tapes. On my decks (DRAGON and ZX-9) I >achieve a > > much more natural sound with these chrome substitute tapes instead of >TDK's > > MA-R (these was the first version of aluminium frame based metal tapes >from > > TDK) or MA-XG. > > > > A question to all of you: What do you think about using type II or type >IV > > tapes on your Naks. Ever heard a tape called Sony metal ES? I liked this >one > > very much when I bought a couple of them many years ago > > > > Klaus > > > > > Greetings! > > > > > > Some of you bro's was asking where to buy TDK MA-XG90s. A UK based > > > company > > > called The Pricebusters is selling them from three of their shops > > > (London, > > > Harrow and Manchester) and by mail order from the Harrow shop. The >latter > > > is at: > > > > > > 1 Crystal Way > > > Elmgrove Road > > > Harrow > > > HA1 2RJ > > > UK > > > > > > Tel: +181-424-8219 > > > Fax: +181-863-2443 > > > > > > There is no e-mail address published. > > > > > > Cost of the tapes are UK �7.75 each plus post & packing > > > > > > They accept Visa and MasterCard. > > > > > > (Are these tapes so very much better than the TDK MA's, to justify >being > > > �6.55 dearer?) > > > > > > Graham > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ========= > > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > > > resource. > > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK >http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ========= > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck >resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Sep 28 14:37:13 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:37:13 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] BASF References: Message-ID: <002501bf09ae$31bea380$692f2ac4@coqui.net> These were the old Basf when they bought the AGFA company years ago. The new BASF line, available to recording studios only, are one of the best on the market today. The Reference Line is very crispy and clean. Not a shadow of what they use to be. By the way, they're the only company still researching in cassette tape and putting out new formulas. You can obtain them trough a recording supplies dealer. Best, Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: Karl-Heinz Herrmann To: Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 5:10 AM Subject: RE: [naktalk] BASF > > On 28-Sep-99 mick s wrote: > > G'day, > > > > Can anyone explain why BASF, who pioneered the development of Chrome > > Tapes, > > make such poor sounding (especially at the top end) Chrome tapes? ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Sep 28 14:43:32 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 08:43:32 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: how tapes age and about tape deck nostalgia ... References: <01BF093D.34C2CD20@AT-VIE-SCHOEPFW.mk.unisys.com> <002901bf095b$2cdb32a0$702f2ac4@coqui.net> <37F03AA1.5B4B22D6@mediaone.net> Message-ID: <003901bf09af$13700b20$692f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: targowski To: Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 11:48 PM Subject: [naktalk] Re: how tapes age and about tape deck nostalgia ... > The recorder makes a difference too. Growing up in Poland in 1980's (graduated high > school in Warsaw in 1984) the semi-attainable dream decks were Pioneer > CTF-850/950/1250, Akai GX-F80/90, JVC KD-A77/8, Technics RS-M95, Grundig CF5502, HA, HA, HA Those old days !!! I use to have a Technics RS-M 63 and I waas the king of the block until my brother in law, who use to play with the San Diego Padres, came back to Puerto Rico with a Nak 480. Then, I loose my trone until I came back with a Revox B-215 years later . I'm still the undisputed king with my 15+ decks now ! HA ! Carlos ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Tue Sep 28 16:24:17 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:24:17 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Re: how tapes age and about tape deck nostalgia ... References: <01BF093D.34C2CD20@AT-VIE-SCHOEPFW.mk.unisys.com> <002901bf095b$2cdb32a0$702f2ac4@coqui.net> <37F03AA1.5B4B22D6@mediaone.net> <003901bf09af$13700b20$692f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <008d01bf09bd$269178c0$111032d4@infosysbank.com> Hi Carlos, Since it looks like you are the Tape Man, I'd like to ask you about an interesting deck I saw listed at a German site. It's a Technics RS-9900 US. The description is very short and the picture is a thumb, so I can only tell you it's a black two-box unit, 3-head, dual capstan, looks like VU-meters and weighs 24 kilos. Has anyone come across this deck ? George ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos To: Sent: 28 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 14:43 Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: how tapes age and about tape deck nostalgia ... > > HA, HA, HA Those old days !!! I use to have a Technics RS-M 63 and I waas > the king of the block until my brother in law, who use to play with the San > Diego Padres, came back to Puerto Rico with a Nak 480. Then, I loose my > trone until I came back with a Revox B-215 years later . I'm still the > undisputed king with my 15+ decks now ! HA ! > > Carlos > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Tue Sep 28 16:36:13 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:36:13 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: how tapes age and about tape deck nostalgia ... References: <01BF093D.34C2CD20@AT-VIE-SCHOEPFW.mk.unisys.com> <002901bf095b$2cdb32a0$702f2ac4@coqui.net> <37F03AA1.5B4B22D6@mediaone.net> <003901bf09af$13700b20$692f2ac4@coqui.net> <008d01bf09bd$269178c0$111032d4@infosysbank.com> Message-ID: <000701bf09be$d10ba220$0a2f2ac4@coqui.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: stemsof To: Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 10:24 AM Subject: Re: [naktalk] Re: how tapes age and about tape deck nostalgia ... > Hi Carlos, > > Since it looks like you are the Tape Man, I'd like to ask you about an > interesting deck I saw listed at a German site. It's a Technics RS-9900 US. > The description is very short and the picture is a thumb, so I can only tell > you it's a black two-box unit, 3-head, dual capstan, looks like VU-meters > and weighs 24 kilos. Has anyone come across this deck ? > > George Hello George: Yeah ! it looks like I'm the tape man, ha, ha, ha .... The Technics RS-9900US was an attempt to make the best cassette deck ever by Technics. It debut was in 1980. The price was $2,000 with 3 heads and an impressive flutter of .04%, around 25 to 20 K Freq. Response if I recall right. It was composed of 2 chassis 19" rack: 1 for transport and the other one for electronics. Black color. s/n ration : over 60 with chrome tape. FM dolby and so. Sound was impressive as well as the looks, but, Nakamichi came out that year with the 680 ZX at $1,550 with much better specs, sound, one chassis only and 1/2 speed option. The 9900 is really a rare breed and a must for cassette deck collectors. Is very hard to find and still selling for $700.00 and up ! Carlos The Tape Man PS: VU Meters indeed ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mraven at telekabel.nl Tue Sep 28 18:25:47 1999 From: mraven at telekabel.nl (Maurits) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:25:47 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] BASF References: <002501bf09ae$31bea380$692f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <003101bf09ce$1efd1a40$5b8286c2@telekabel.nl> ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos To: Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [naktalk] BASF > These were the old Basf when they bought the AGFA company years ago. In the late sixties Agfa was one of the leading brands here in Europe. Every professional radiostudio use this brand and has has the emulsion on the outside winding for Telefunken M15 en Nagra open reel decks. On my amateur Revox A77 2 track I use mostly Revox 207 (1100 mtrs LP) or Afga PE36rx (1280 mtr >4200 ft.) A77 recorders from factorynumber S 20200 and G 21500 and higher were calibrated for this Agfa tape. I never missed gadgets like Dolby on this machine....S/N ratio was very good, some albums of popmusic were fully recorded using one A77! Maurits ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Tue Sep 28 14:42:38 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:42:38 +0000 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F5@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Message-ID: <37F0B7BE.5975@bestweb.net> Nak fans, Here is part of a e-mail sent about six months ago to Naktalk by former Naktalker Lennard Valk, which sheds more light on the difference between the Nak NAAC sytem and the Marantz MAAC system: The MAAC system Marantz has been using is different from the NAAC system featured in the Dragon. As you may know Nakamichi devides one channel (left, thus mono) into two sections to detect a phase difference caused by inproper azimuth alignment. The phase correlation between the two signals is used to control a correction circuit that drives a motor that aligns the pb head azimuth. In this way a zero degree phase difference is obtained. MAAC works differently. Here you will find not one devided channel, but the phase difference between the right and left channel is used to control a piezo electric element for adjustment of the rec/pb head. So if the recorded signal incorporates a phase difference between right and left, (which does not have to mean this is an azimuth error) the MAAC system will detect that and probably goes in error. The Nakamichi Automatic Azimuth Control system is more sophisticated. Lennard Valk Come back Lenny. We miss you. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stephen_sank at emall-online.com Tue Sep 28 19:24:24 1999 From: stephen_sank at emall-online.com (Stephen Sank2) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:24:24 -0600 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F5@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <37F0B7BE.5975@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <37F0F9C8.454F6C49@emall-online.com> Just a small correction: The Dragon NAAC circuit detects phase balance from both channels to find the most accurate azimuth setting. Tom Bergman wrote: > > Nak fans, > Here is part of a e-mail sent about six months ago to Naktalk by > former Naktalker Lennard Valk, which sheds more light on the difference > between the Nak NAAC sytem and the Marantz MAAC system: > > The MAAC system Marantz has been using is different from the NAAC system > featured in the Dragon. > As you may know Nakamichi devides one channel (left, thus mono) into two > sections to detect a phase difference caused by inproper azimuth > alignment. > The phase correlation between the two signals is used to control a > correction circuit that drives a motor that aligns the pb head azimuth. > In > this way a zero degree phase difference is obtained. > > MAAC works differently. Here you will find not one devided channel, but > the > phase difference between the right and left channel is used to control a > piezo electric element for adjustment of the rec/pb head. So if the > recorded > signal incorporates a phase difference between right and left, (which > does > not have to mean this is an azimuth error) the MAAC system will detect > that > and probably goes in error. > > The Nakamichi Automatic Azimuth Control system is more sophisticated. > > Lennard Valk > > Come back Lenny. We miss you. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Tue Sep 28 19:59:10 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 10:59:10 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution Message-ID: All Right!!! I've completed my first offical contribution to the Music Exchange Tree, and I will be sending that to Carlos (The Tape Man) real soon. I've chosen some rock & blues music from the mid 1960's, by the British group called (rightfully) 'The Cream'. I've titled this effort as "The Cream - Off The Top", and designed a nice complimentary color j-card to slip into the case. Here's what I've created for your music listening enjoyment: A ninety minute potpourri of unadulterated original sessions, obscure alternatives & out-takes, and rarely heard live tracks. Arranged as only a blues aficionado might be able to do, with one of the most complete collections of music by The Cream held in my personal library! I'm currently compiling a moderately detailed playlist to provide to anyone interested (that can be emailed upon request). Other info - Recorded on Maxell XLIIS 90 cassette, with Cr02 bias, without noise reduction. Recorded on my Nak RX-505 cassette deck. Original media (twelve different albums have been used, several are audiophile remastered discs, others are soundboard bootlegg discs) is all compact disc derived, sourced directly to the RX-505 using my Philips Model 765 CD/CDR component. Here's hoping that some of you other Nakkers will request to enjoy listening to my contribution! And I'm looking/hearing forward to a variety of other good music coming to the Musc Exchange Tree from all over the world, soon!!! Blues --- Help keep the blues alive! Got Some??? http://www.angelfire.com/wi/blueswapper Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk Tue Sep 28 21:58:01 1999 From: graham at nelson3.freeserve.co.uk (Graham Nelson) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 20:58:01 +0100 Subject: [naktalk] Cr02 tape & others..... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000601bf09eb$d8adda20$05000006@p4v56> Blues wrote: > One of the best current sources for Maxell products is > American Digital Corporation, website at: , where prices for XLII and XLIIS 60s/90s are rock bottom when you buy a bunch at a time. Even with shipping/insurance, you can pay less than $1.75 each!!! And ADC responds phenomenally; like I order via internet, and I've got my goods within 48 hours via UPS delivery. I order analog and digital media from the boys at ADC, and I'm a very pleased customer. Try 'em, they've got it together! For UK readers of this forum, the same tapes can be bought from The Price Busters (tel: 0181-424-8219) for 75p for a XLII and 90p for a XLIIS, plus postage/packing of £5.75. So, to make it worthwhile, order a few! They are also selling TDK SA C90's for 75p and SA-A C90's for £1.10. Agaim, a pretty good buy in quantity but I've been told to chech out Richer Sounds for SA's as I understand they are selling SA's as a loss-leader. Graham ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From george.m.hook at ac.com Wed Sep 29 00:03:28 1999 From: george.m.hook at ac.com (george.m.hook at ac.com) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:03:28 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution Message-ID: <862567FA.00787799.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> I've always wondered: Is it Cream or The Cream. Is it Cream in the United States, and The Cream in U.K.? Sorry for the Non-Nak Blurt. George ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Tue Sep 28 20:49:57 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:49:57 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution References: <862567FA.00787799.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> Message-ID: <37F10DD5.7B98@bestweb.net> It's "Cream" in both places and everywhere else on Earth for that matter. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From george.m.hook at ac.com Wed Sep 29 02:53:09 1999 From: george.m.hook at ac.com (george.m.hook at ac.com) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:53:09 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution Message-ID: <862567FB.00042931.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> Yes, like, it's not The Iron Butterfly, it's Iron Butterfly. But the Jefferson Airplane? Jefferson Airplane? Let's just say, I listen to all of them enjoyably on my Nakamichi Cassette Deck 2. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From HerbChong at compuserve.com Wed Sep 29 03:38:24 1999 From: HerbChong at compuserve.com (Herb Chong) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:38:24 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: how tapes age and about tape deck nostalgia ... Message-ID: <199909282138_MC2-86DC-B3BB@compuserve.com> very expensive, as i recall, as much or more than the 700/1000 series. i may still have an old spec sheet lying around. specs were pretty good, but not as good as a Nak of the time. Herb... ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From sir_stewart at hotmail.com Wed Sep 29 06:47:19 1999 From: sir_stewart at hotmail.com (mick s) Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:47:19 PDT Subject: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution Message-ID: <19990929044720.94443.qmail@hotmail.com> G'day, However it is "The Who", "The Rolling Stones", "The Beatles" ... probably because they are British and not "septic tanks"... Mick ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Wed Sep 29 07:12:55 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:12:55 +1000 Subject: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution References: <19990929044720.94443.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <37F19FD7.DD0887A5@ozemail.com.au> Hi Mate, You must be from oz ? ? ? John H mick s wrote: > G'day, > > However it is "The Who", "The Rolling Stones", "The Beatles" ... probably > because they are British and not "septic tanks"... > > Mick > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Wed Sep 29 10:29:52 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:29:52 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution References: <862567FB.00042931.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> Message-ID: <37F1CE00.3D59@bestweb.net> Jefferson Airplane ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From george.m.hook at ac.com Wed Sep 29 23:02:50 1999 From: george.m.hook at ac.com (george.m.hook at ac.com) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 16:02:50 -0500 Subject: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution Message-ID: <862567FB.0072EAF8.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> And, of course, The The, who I also regularly listen to on my wonderful Nakamachi Cassette Deck 2. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Wed Sep 29 20:26:04 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 18:26:04 +0000 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F5@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <37F0B7BE.5975@bestweb.net> <37F0F9C8.454F6C49@emall-online.com> Message-ID: <37F259BB.4760@bestweb.net> Steve Sank wrote: Just a small correction: The Dragon NAAC circuit detects phase balance from both channels to find the most accurate azimuth setting. I'm copying this right out of the Nak Dragon brochure: "...NAAC determines the actual azimuth of the recording and aligns the playback head to it! It does not compare the phase in the left and right channels for, in stereo, the two contain different information. It works WITHIN THE SAME CHANNEL by utilizing a unique playback head that splits the track in half and drives TWO signals from it. The signals-"a" and "b"-are processed to extract the phase difference. This "error" drives a servo motor that realigns the playback head to the track." I think this sounds pretty close to what Lennard said. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Thu Sep 30 01:58:01 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:58:01 +1000 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F5@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <37F0B7BE.5975@bestweb.net> <37F0F9C8.454F6C49@emall-online.com> <37F259BB.4760@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <37F2A788.ED2BBB78@ozemail.com.au> An at times annoying by- product (of an otherwise great invention) occurs with some modern electronic music, in which the composer (recording tech?) has fiddled with phase electronically. This fools my Dragon into trying to correct for the constantly shifting phase. It happens on very few recordings. My tech informs me the Dragon is performing normally. Has anyone else come across this odd behavior ? ? John H Tom Bergman wrote: > Steve Sank wrote: > > Just a small correction: The Dragon NAAC circuit detects phase balance > from both channels to find the most accurate azimuth setting. > > I'm copying this right out of the Nak Dragon brochure: > > "...NAAC determines the actual azimuth of the recording and aligns > the playback head to it! It does not compare the phase in the left and > right channels for, in stereo, the two contain different information. > It works WITHIN THE SAME CHANNEL by utilizing a unique playback head > that splits the track in half and drives TWO signals from it. The > signals-"a" and "b"-are processed to extract the phase difference. This > "error" drives a servo motor that realigns the playback head to the > track." > > I think this sounds pretty close to what Lennard said. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mpatrick at voicenet.com Thu Sep 30 02:11:09 1999 From: mpatrick at voicenet.com (FabFourFan) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 00:11:09 GMT Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? In-Reply-To: <37F2A788.ED2BBB78@ozemail.com.au> References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F5@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <37F0B7BE.5975@bestweb.net> <37F0F9C8.454F6C49@emall-online.com> <37F259BB.4760@bestweb.net> <37F2A788.ED2BBB78@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <37f2aa0d.1310452@mail.voicenet.com> Can you elaborate? Sometimes my Dragon will try to recalibrate, but it's always been because of a gross change in the recording (e.g., a new section recorded later than the previous section), not the 'artistic' content of the recording. Do you have an example that I might be able to try? Thanks! Mike Patrick On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:58:01 +1000, you wrote: >An at times annoying by- product (of an otherwise great invention) >occurs with some modern electronic music, in which the composer >(recording tech?) has fiddled with phase electronically. >This fools my Dragon into trying to correct for the constantly shifting phase. >It happens on very few recordings. My tech informs me the Dragon >is performing normally. >Has anyone else come across this odd behavior ? ? >John H > > >Tom Bergman wrote: > >> Steve Sank wrote: >> >> Just a small correction: The Dragon NAAC circuit detects phase balance >> from both channels to find the most accurate azimuth setting. >> >> I'm copying this right out of the Nak Dragon brochure: >> >> "...NAAC determines the actual azimuth of the recording and aligns >> the playback head to it! It does not compare the phase in the left and >> right channels for, in stereo, the two contain different information. >> It works WITHIN THE SAME CHANNEL by utilizing a unique playback head >> that splits the track in half and drives TWO signals from it. The >> signals-"a" and "b"-are processed to extract the phase difference. This >> "error" drives a servo motor that realigns the playback head to the >> track." >> >> I think this sounds pretty close to what Lennard said. >> >> Tom >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Scalnajim at aol.com Thu Sep 30 03:29:48 1999 From: Scalnajim at aol.com (Scalnajim at aol.com) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 21:29:48 EDT Subject: [naktalk] Tapedeck and CD player Message-ID: <8d228d91.2524170c@aol.com> THE TD-350 WAS ONLY SOLD AT BEST BUY. ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Thu Sep 30 03:40:29 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:40:29 +1000 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F5@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <37F0B7BE.5975@bestweb.net> <37F0F9C8.454F6C49@emall-online.com> <37F259BB.4760@bestweb.net> <37F2A788.ED2BBB78@ozemail.com.au> <37f2aa0d.1310452@mail.voicenet.com> Message-ID: <37F2BF8D.FBAD00EE@ozemail.com.au> I have wiped all of the tracks that caused this behavior but they were from Jean-Micheal Jare and 'I Robot' by Allan Parsons if I remember correctly. Sorry I can't be more accurate - it's a long time since I had them. John H FabFourFan wrote: > Can you elaborate? > > Sometimes my Dragon will try to recalibrate, but it's always been > because of a gross change in the recording (e.g., a new section recorded > later than the previous section), not the 'artistic' content of the > recording. > > Do you have an example that I might be able to try? > > Thanks! > > Mike Patrick > > On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:58:01 +1000, you wrote: > > >An at times annoying by- product (of an otherwise great invention) > >occurs with some modern electronic music, in which the composer > >(recording tech?) has fiddled with phase electronically. > >This fools my Dragon into trying to correct for the constantly shifting phase. > >It happens on very few recordings. My tech informs me the Dragon > >is performing normally. > >Has anyone else come across this odd behavior ? ? > >John H > > > > > >Tom Bergman wrote: > > > >> Steve Sank wrote: > >> > >> Just a small correction: The Dragon NAAC circuit detects phase balance > >> from both channels to find the most accurate azimuth setting. > >> > >> I'm copying this right out of the Nak Dragon brochure: > >> > >> "...NAAC determines the actual azimuth of the recording and aligns > >> the playback head to it! It does not compare the phase in the left and > >> right channels for, in stereo, the two contain different information. > >> It works WITHIN THE SAME CHANNEL by utilizing a unique playback head > >> that splits the track in half and drives TWO signals from it. The > >> signals-"a" and "b"-are processed to extract the phase difference. This > >> "error" drives a servo motor that realigns the playback head to the > >> track." > >> > >> I think this sounds pretty close to what Lennard said. > >> > >> Tom > >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > >> naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > >> TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >> ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From dnanan at yahoo.com Thu Sep 30 04:59:36 1999 From: dnanan at yahoo.com (Durga Nanan) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [naktalk] Tapedeck and CD player Message-ID: <19990930025936.23509.rocketmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Hey, thanks. You know were I can get any other information? I don't think Best Buy carries them any more. Durga --- Scalnajim at aol.com wrote: > THE TD-350 WAS ONLY SOLD AT BEST BUY. > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial > Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK > http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de Thu Sep 30 07:57:35 1999 From: Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de (Fendt Klaus) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:57:35 +0200 Subject: AW: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? Message-ID: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F20A@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Well Tom, what you're posting here is exactly what the german brochure wrote about the NAAC system and I think this mechanism is the only way to determine a possible head misalignment: So the DRAGON is the only tape deck which uses a kind of 6-track-head for playback. Does anybody of you know some differences between "older" and "newer" DRAGONs. Perhaps Nakamichi made some changes during building DRAGONs? Klaus > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: Tom Bergman [SMTP:captain at bestweb.net] > Gesendet am: Mittwoch, 29. September 1999 20:26 > An: naktalk at naks.com > Cc: captain at bestweb.net > Betreff: Re: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? > > Steve Sank wrote: > > Just a small correction: The Dragon NAAC circuit detects phase balance > from both channels to find the most accurate azimuth setting. > > I'm copying this right out of the Nak Dragon brochure: > > "...NAAC determines the actual azimuth of the recording and aligns > the playback head to it! It does not compare the phase in the left and > right channels for, in stereo, the two contain different information. > It works WITHIN THE SAME CHANNEL by utilizing a unique playback head > that splits the track in half and drives TWO signals from it. The > signals-"a" and "b"-are processed to extract the phase difference. This > "error" drives a servo motor that realigns the playback head to the > track." > > I think this sounds pretty close to what Lennard said. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Thu Sep 30 09:37:46 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 09:37:46 +0200 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F1F5@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <37F0B7BE.5975@bestweb.net> <37F0F9C8.454F6C49@emall-online.com> <37F259BB.4760@bestweb.net> Message-ID: <002d01bf0b16$b1985600$171032d4@infosysbank.com> Guys, now I'm getting really confused - could it be that both of you are right, i.e. the NAAC works within the same channel in both channels - splitting left channel in two and processing and also splitting the right channel in two and processing for phase difference ? I still haven't got a Dragon, but it's only a matter of time - I hope -:). By the way, I managed to get my hands on a Revox 710 Mk II in excellent condition. Is there someone in Europe who has more than one Dragon and would be willing to trade one for the Revox ? Please reply off-list to stemsof at infosys-bank.com. Of course, I wouldn't expect a straightforward exchange, but I'm sure we'll reach an agreement. George ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Bergman To: Cc: Sent: 29 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 20:26 Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? > Steve Sank wrote: > > Just a small correction: The Dragon NAAC circuit detects phase balance > from both channels to find the most accurate azimuth setting. > > I'm copying this right out of the Nak Dragon brochure: > > "...NAAC determines the actual azimuth of the recording and aligns > the playback head to it! It does not compare the phase in the left and > right channels for, in stereo, the two contain different information. > It works WITHIN THE SAME CHANNEL by utilizing a unique playback head > that splits the track in half and drives TWO signals from it. The > signals-"a" and "b"-are processed to extract the phase difference. This > "error" drives a servo motor that realigns the playback head to the > track." > > I think this sounds pretty close to what Lennard said. > > Tom > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de Thu Sep 30 10:30:42 1999 From: Klaus.Fendt.gp at icn.siemens.de (Fendt Klaus) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:30:42 +0200 Subject: AW: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? Message-ID: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F20B@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> George, Definitely not. As I remember, a german HiFi mag described the NAAC function in a way that the right channel for both directions (I think this is the outer one so NAAC gets a larger angle fot its check) is devided up into two identical channels which can be compared against each other. The left channel is not splitted up because it makes no sense to compare two channels; in this case the two results of the comparison would have to be compared again to get a correct setting. According to this Nak built this famous 6-track-head which makes the crystal clear sound the DRAGON owner likes so much (sorry George I can't give my DRAGON away but perhaps you find someone who owns more than one . . .) Klaus > Guys, now I'm getting really confused - could it be that both of you are > right, i.e. the NAAC works within the same channel in both channels - > splitting left channel in two and processing and also splitting the right > channel in two and processing for phase difference ? I still haven't got a > Dragon, but it's only a matter of time - I hope -:). > > By the way, I managed to get my hands on a Revox 710 Mk II in excellent > condition. Is there someone in Europe who has more than one Dragon and > would > be willing to trade one for the Revox ? Please reply off-list to > stemsof at infosys-bank.com. Of course, I wouldn't expect a straightforward > exchange, but I'm sure we'll reach an agreement. > > George > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tom Bergman > To: > Cc: > Sent: 29 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 20:26 > Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? > > > > Steve Sank wrote: > > > > Just a small correction: The Dragon NAAC circuit detects phase balance > > from both channels to find the most accurate azimuth setting. > > > > I'm copying this right out of the Nak Dragon brochure: > > > > "...NAAC determines the actual azimuth of the recording and aligns > > the playback head to it! It does not compare the phase in the left and > > right channels for, in stereo, the two contain different information. > > It works WITHIN THE SAME CHANNEL by utilizing a unique playback head > > that splits the track in half and drives TWO signals from it. The > > signals-"a" and "b"-are processed to extract the phase difference. This > > "error" drives a servo motor that realigns the playback head to the > > track." > > > > I think this sounds pretty close to what Lennard said. > > > > Tom > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > == > ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > == > ======= > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck > resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------ > ========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From stemsof at infosys-bank.com Thu Sep 30 14:26:34 1999 From: stemsof at infosys-bank.com (stemsof) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:26:34 +0200 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F20B@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> Message-ID: <007201bf0b3f$09662ec0$171032d4@infosysbank.com> Hi Klaus, Thanks for your clear and detailed explanation. As for the Dragon, I did say "someone in Europe who has more than one Dragon", so no need to apologise -:). Cheers George ----- Original Message ----- From: Fendt Klaus To: Sent: 30 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 10:30 Subject: AW: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? > George, > > Definitely not. As I remember, a german HiFi mag described the NAAC function > in a way that the right channel for both directions (I think this is the > outer one so NAAC gets a larger angle fot its check) is devided up into two > identical channels which can be compared against each other. > > The left channel is not splitted up because it makes no sense to compare two > channels; in this case the two results of the comparison would have to be > compared again to get a correct setting. According to this Nak built this > famous 6-track-head which makes the crystal clear sound the DRAGON owner > likes so much (sorry George I can't give my DRAGON away but perhaps you find > someone who owns more than one . . .) > > Klaus > > > Guys, now I'm getting really confused - could it be that both of you are > > right, i.e. the NAAC works within the same channel in both channels - > > splitting left channel in two and processing and also splitting the right > > channel in two and processing for phase difference ? I still haven't got a > > Dragon, but it's only a matter of time - I hope -:). > > > > By the way, I managed to get my hands on a Revox 710 Mk II in excellent > > condition. Is there someone in Europe who has more than one Dragon and > > would > > be willing to trade one for the Revox ? Please reply off-list to > > stemsof at infosys-bank.com. Of course, I wouldn't expect a straightforward > > exchange, but I'm sure we'll reach an agreement. > > > > George ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Thu Sep 30 14:20:06 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 22:20:06 +1000 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...Missing from DR10? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F20B@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <007201bf0b3f$09662ec0$171032d4@infosysbank.com> Message-ID: <37F35575.20E7EAF3@ozemail.com.au> Speaking of Dragons and azimuth - today I had a look and listen to the new Nakamichi DR10 and was disappointed to learn that it does not have any inbuilt azimuth alignment. I brief inspection of the innards indicates an attempt to use high quality electronic components. The transport looks to be similar to the Dragon. The sound (granted on gear I am unfamiliar with ) was convincingly musical. Maybe if the two new decks sell enough units Nakamichi will produce one with azimuth alignment and (hope of hopes) digital indexing. John H stemsof wrote: > Hi Klaus, > > Thanks for your clear and detailed explanation. As for the Dragon, I did say > "someone in Europe who has more than one Dragon", so no need to > apologise -:). > > Cheers > George > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Fendt Klaus > To: > Sent: 30 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 10:30 > Subject: AW: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? > > > George, > > > > Definitely not. As I remember, a german HiFi mag described the NAAC > function > > in a way that the right channel for both directions (I think this is the > > outer one so NAAC gets a larger angle fot its check) is devided up into > two > > identical channels which can be compared against each other. > > > > The left channel is not splitted up because it makes no sense to compare > two > > channels; in this case the two results of the comparison would have to be > > compared again to get a correct setting. According to this Nak built this > > famous 6-track-head which makes the crystal clear sound the DRAGON owner > > likes so much (sorry George I can't give my DRAGON away but perhaps you > find > > someone who owns more than one . . .) > > > > Klaus > > > > > Guys, now I'm getting really confused - could it be that both of you are > > > right, i.e. the NAAC works within the same channel in both channels - > > > splitting left channel in two and processing and also splitting the > right > > > channel in two and processing for phase difference ? I still haven't got > a > > > Dragon, but it's only a matter of time - I hope -:). > > > > > > By the way, I managed to get my hands on a Revox 710 Mk II in excellent > > > condition. Is there someone in Europe who has more than one Dragon and > > > would > > > be willing to trade one for the Revox ? Please reply off-list to > > > stemsof at infosys-bank.com. Of course, I wouldn't expect a straightforward > > > exchange, but I'm sure we'll reach an agreement. > > > > > > George > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Sep 30 14:55:41 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:55:41 -0400 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...Missing from DR10? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F20B@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <007201bf0b3f$09662ec0$171032d4@infosysbank.com> <37F35575.20E7EAF3@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <000901bf0b43$1aab1fc0$f82f2ac4@coqui.net> Hopefully you're right John, but I really don't think this is gonna happen anymore. The fast decline of the tape media in general are taking away all research and efforts from the cassette deck manufacturers. I predict that in the next 5 years there wouldn't be a single company building cassette decks. Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: mdhjwh To: Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 8:20 AM Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...Missing from DR10? > Speaking of Dragons and azimuth - today I had a look and listen to the > new Nakamichi DR10 and was disappointed to learn that it does not > have any inbuilt azimuth alignment. > I brief inspection of the innards indicates an attempt to use > high quality electronic components. > The transport looks to be similar to the Dragon. > The sound (granted on gear I am unfamiliar with ) was convincingly > musical. > Maybe if the two new decks sell enough units Nakamichi will > produce one with azimuth alignment and (hope of hopes) > digital indexing. > > John H > > > stemsof wrote: > > > Hi Klaus, > > > > Thanks for your clear and detailed explanation. As for the Dragon, I did say > > "someone in Europe who has more than one Dragon", so no need to > > apologise -:). > > > > Cheers > > George > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Fendt Klaus > > To: > > Sent: 30 Ñåïòåìâðè 1999 ã. 10:30 > > Subject: AW: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...? > > > > > George, > > > > > > Definitely not. As I remember, a german HiFi mag described the NAAC > > function > > > in a way that the right channel for both directions (I think this is the > > > outer one so NAAC gets a larger angle fot its check) is devided up into > > two > > > identical channels which can be compared against each other. > > > > > > The left channel is not splitted up because it makes no sense to compare > > two > > > channels; in this case the two results of the comparison would have to be > > > compared again to get a correct setting. According to this Nak built this > > > famous 6-track-head which makes the crystal clear sound the DRAGON owner > > > likes so much (sorry George I can't give my DRAGON away but perhaps you > > find > > > someone who owns more than one . . .) > > > > > > Klaus > > > > > > > Guys, now I'm getting really confused - could it be that both of you are > > > > right, i.e. the NAAC works within the same channel in both channels - > > > > splitting left channel in two and processing and also splitting the > > right > > > > channel in two and processing for phase difference ? I still haven't got > > a > > > > Dragon, but it's only a matter of time - I hope -:). > > > > > > > > By the way, I managed to get my hands on a Revox 710 Mk II in excellent > > > > condition. Is there someone in Europe who has more than one Dragon and > > > > would > > > > be willing to trade one for the Revox ? Please reply off-list to > > > > stemsof at infosys-bank.com. Of course, I wouldn't expect a straightforward > > > > exchange, but I'm sure we'll reach an agreement. > > > > > > > > George > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Thu Sep 30 15:27:44 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 23:27:44 +1000 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...Missing from DR10? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F20B@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <007201bf0b3f$09662ec0$171032d4@infosysbank.com> <37F35575.20E7EAF3@ozemail.com.au> <000901bf0b43$1aab1fc0$f82f2ac4@coqui.net> Message-ID: <37F3654F.DC7599C5@ozemail.com.au> Possibly true - but look at the LP. I thought it was dead and gone but the turntables, arms and cartridges now available, have made a great leap forward that I didn't think was possible a few years ago. The only problem for me is that most of this new gear is outrageously expensive. John H ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From blueswapper at angelfire.com Thu Sep 30 19:23:46 1999 From: blueswapper at angelfire.com (The BlueSwapper) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:23:46 -0700 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #54 (The Cream) Message-ID: Silly boys!!! When you listen to the recording I'm contributing, you'll understand. History will remember them as The Cream. But then, it really doesn't matter, call them whatever you like, you'll agree that what I've compiled is 'cream off the top'..... Carlos, how many requests made to the music tree so far? I'll have the master cassette in the mail tomorrow! Blues ------------------------------ >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:49:57 +0000 >From: Tom Bergman >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution > >It's "Cream" in both places and everywhere else on Earth for that >matter. > >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:53:09 -0500 >From: george.m.hook at ac.com >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution > >Yes, like, it's not The Iron Butterfly, it's Iron Butterfly. But the Jefferson >Airplane? Jefferson Airplane? Let's just say, I listen to all of them >enjoyably on my Nakamichi Cassette Deck 2. > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------========= >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html >========--------------------------------------------- > >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:47:19 PDT >From: "mick s" >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution > >G'day, > >However it is "The Who", "The Rolling Stones", "The Beatles" ... probably >because they are British and not "septic tanks"... > >Mick > >------------------------------ > >End of naktalk-digest V1 #54 >**************************** > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Sep 30 20:22:07 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:22:07 -0400 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...Missing from DR10? References: <35CDAB005708D31188810008C7286DE702F20B@mchh214e.demchh201e.oen.siemens.de> <007201bf0b3f$09662ec0$171032d4@infosysbank.com> <37F35575.20E7EAF3@ozemail.com.au> <000901bf0b43$1aab1fc0$f82f2ac4@coqui.net> <37F3654F.DC7599C5@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <002901bf0b70$b4fd3900$872f2ac4@coqui.net> They are still almost dead, because 2 millions LP per year is a ridiculous small number compare to 700 millions of CD's. This is only a niche in a very big and ambitious market. You'll see that is not gonna be the same with the cassette. I'll love to see the cassette life extended for at least 10 years more since I'm a duplicator, but the reality is another. The decline is faster now than last year. Only India is expected to be making 600+ cassettes in the 21st. century. Carlos ----- Original Message ----- From: mdhjwh To: Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 9:27 AM Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...Missing from DR10? > Possibly true - but look at the LP. I thought it was dead > and gone but the turntables, arms and cartridges now > available, have made a great leap forward that I didn't > think was possible a few years ago. > The only problem for me is that most of this new gear is > outrageously expensive. > John H > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Sep 30 20:38:45 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:38:45 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #54 (The Cream) References: Message-ID: <004f01bf0b73$0740e020$872f2ac4@coqui.net> Well, Blues, as I told you before, I don't understand this life. When I advertise the NAK TREE I received a lot of inquires, now that it's already started nobody seems to be interested, except you and me that have already exchanged some very good music. Send me the master anyway. I'll take it to Copytech Mastering Services in San Juan to see if we can fix it better. AGAIN, if somebody out there is really interested to share some good music here're some addresses you may want to know: Carlos J. Guzman "The Tape Man" P.O. Box 219 Ceiba, Puerto Rico 00735-0219 Kenny Parsons "Mr. Blues" 946 Mohican Pass Madison, WI 53711 Anyone interested to add the name to our small organization ? The Tape Man ----- Original Message ----- From: The BlueSwapper To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 1:23 PM Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #54 (The Cream) > Silly boys!!! When you listen to the recording I'm contributing, you'll understand. History will remember them as The Cream. But then, it really doesn't matter, call them whatever you like, you'll agree that what I've compiled is 'cream off the top'..... > > Carlos, how many requests made to the music tree so far? I'll have the master cassette in the mail tomorrow! > > Blues > > ------------------------------ > > > >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:49:57 +0000 > >From: Tom Bergman > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution > > > >It's "Cream" in both places and everywhere else on Earth for that > >matter. > > > > >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:53:09 -0500 > >From: george.m.hook at ac.com > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution > > > >Yes, like, it's not The Iron Butterfly, it's Iron Butterfly. But the Jefferson > >Airplane? Jefferson Airplane? Let's just say, I listen to all of them > >enjoyably on my Nakamichi Cassette Deck 2. > > > > > > > >========------------------------------------------------------------------= ======== > >naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > >TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > >========--------------------------------------------- > > > >Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:47:19 PDT > >From: "mick s" > >Subject: Re: [naktalk] Nak Music Exchange Tree - Blues' Contribution > > > >G'day, > > > >However it is "The Who", "The Rolling Stones", "The Beatles" ... probably > >because they are British and not "septic tanks"... > > > >Mick > > > >------------------------------ > > > >End of naktalk-digest V1 #54 > >**************************** > > > > > > > Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.angelfire.com > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From ddrucker at stny.rr.com Thu Sep 30 20:40:52 1999 From: ddrucker at stny.rr.com (David Drucker) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:40:52 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] Superb 582 for sale Message-ID: <001901bf0b73$5345ef60$5d3a5e18@stny.rr.com> My Dragon and CR-7A are in place, one 582 is spoken for, and the other is up for grabs. It was just serviced by Stephen Sank, to the tune of $90 (plus shipping), so you know it's in fine electro-mechanical shape. It's also cosmetically excellent, and comes with an original manual. Most of the Nak chatter centers on newer or more famous models, but IMHO the 582 is one of the great workhorse decks of all time. Rock-solid transport, great electronics, and front-panel bias & level adjust with oscillators (just like a Dragon). The 582 cost $890 when that sum would buy a *very* nice used car. Steal mine for $350, plus shipping. David Drucker ddrucker at stny.rr.com ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Sep 30 20:52:10 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:52:10 -0400 Subject: [naktalk] 700 ZXl Service Manual Message-ID: <008501bf0b74$e79e8220$872f2ac4@coqui.net> Just acquired an original 700 ZXL service manual. If anyone needs a copy of this 100+ pages monument, please reply off list to me. The tape man ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From wheijke at xs4all.nl Thu Sep 30 20:47:58 1999 From: wheijke at xs4all.nl (Wouter Heijke) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:47:58 +0200 Subject: [naktalk] Nak tape trade list Message-ID: <37F3B05E.44D7175D@xs4all.nl> Hi everyone, It is now easier to geton to the tapetrade list, go to the website and follow the links...instructions are there! Wouter ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From george.m.hook at ac.com Thu Sep 30 22:39:06 1999 From: george.m.hook at ac.com (george.m.hook at ac.com) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 15:39:06 -0500 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...Missing from DR10? Message-ID: <862567FC.0070BDCD.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> I tend to disagree with this assessment. Though the cassette medium is becoming less important, I believe low-end manufacturers will continue to offer the format. How could they not? In the United States, you can go to the local franchise drugstore and pick up a Sony Walkman for 25 dollars (or less, if on sale). With that kind of availability, there will always be a market for a cassette-type recorder. I mean, people were counting out turntables 10 years ago, and specialty manufacturers are still making them (some, at 8,000 dollars a pop). Hopefully, wonderful Nakamichi will comprehend this, and manufacture a high-end cassette deck in keeping with its heritage. George ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au Thu Sep 30 23:25:21 1999 From: mdhjwh at ozemail.com.au (mdhjwh) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 07:25:21 +1000 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...Missing from DR10? References: <862567FC.0070BDCD.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> Message-ID: <37F3D541.F125BB66@ozemail.com.au> The single most important innovation that would extend the life of the cassettes digital indexing. The general public is now accustomed to the convenience of fast track search , access and indexing. It is within the reach of existing technologies to implement this if anyone (hopefully Nakamichi) is awake to the fact. Hail fellow Nakamaniacs John H george.m.hook at ac.com wrote: > I tend to disagree with this assessment. Though the cassette medium is > becoming less important, I believe low-end manufacturers will continue to offer > the format. How could they not? In the United States, you can go to the local > franchise drugstore and pick up a Sony Walkman for 25 dollars (or less, if on > sale). With that kind of availability, there will always be a market for a > cassette-type recorder. I mean, people were counting out turntables 10 years > ago, and specialty manufacturers are still making them (some, at 8,000 dollars a > pop). Hopefully, wonderful Nakamichi will comprehend this, and manufacture a > high-end cassette deck in keeping with its heritage. George > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From copytec at coqui.net Thu Sep 30 23:47:51 1999 From: copytec at coqui.net (Carlos) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:47:51 -0400 Subject: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...Missing from DR10? References: <862567FC.0070BDCD.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> Message-ID: <000901bf0b8d$7297aba0$632f2ac4@coqui.net> You're looking the situation from the consumer point of view and hopefully you're correct. From the professional point of view it is completely different. You mention a $25.00 walkman and that's exactly the problem: the industry feels that there's not any more money in that. Remember, the public is not killing the cassette, the industry wants to get rid of it ! Have you seen how they sell the cassettes for $10.95 !!!! When with 5.00 more buck you can buy a CD ? That's another factor that is killing faster this media. I have live from the cassette for the last 20 years and with 100% assurance I can tell you that the best days of the cassette are long gone. Sorry ... You mention the $8,000 turntable ! Ha, how many you think they sell a year ? No my friend, that doesn't dictates a market tendency. It is just a Niche where the big guys are no longer interested to play ! Are you gonna buy a $5,000 Nakamichi in the year 2005 to play a moribund cassette ? I don't really think so... Best, The Tape Man ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, September 30, 1999 4:39 PM Subject: Re: AW: [naktalk] MAAC...Missing from DR10? > I tend to disagree with this assessment. Though the cassette medium is > becoming less important, I believe low-end manufacturers will continue to offer > the format. How could they not? In the United States, you can go to the local > franchise drugstore and pick up a Sony Walkman for 25 dollars (or less, if on > sale). With that kind of availability, there will always be a market for a > cassette-type recorder. I mean, people were counting out turntables 10 years > ago, and specialty manufacturers are still making them (some, at 8,000 dollars a > pop). Hopefully, wonderful Nakamichi will comprehend this, and manufacture a > high-end cassette deck in keeping with its heritage. George > > > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. > TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html > ========------------------------------------------------------------------== ======= > > ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From captain at bestweb.net Thu Sep 30 19:52:54 1999 From: captain at bestweb.net (Tom Bergman) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 17:52:54 +0000 Subject: [naktalk] Will the cassette format survive? References: <862567FC.0070BDCD.00@amrhm1101.ac.com> <37F3D541.F125BB66@ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: <37F3A376.6F83@bestweb.net> As long as cassettes remain the most cost-effective way to bring recorded music into your car, the format will stay alive. Personally, I'd much rather bring a cassette copy of a CD into the rather software-unfriendly environment of a car, than the CD itself. If the cassette gets ruined you just make another copy. If the CD gets screwed up, it's sayonara--and you're going to have to spend much more than the price of a cassette to replace it. Tom ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From naktalk at naks.com Thu Sep 30 19:25:07 1999 From: naktalk at naks.com (naktalk at naks.com) Date: Thu, Sep 30 1999 19:25:07 GMT-0400 Subject: [naktalk] Re: naktalk-digest V1 #54 (The Cream) Message-ID: <19990930232533075.AAA230@mail.bee.net@smtp.bee.net> Carlos, I am very interested in the Nak Tree. I emailed Blues about trading last night. I think sometimes my return address doesn't appear. It is gibby at bee.net I have primarily Grateful Dead and related. But I also have some Zappa and other misc. bands. I am really interested in expanding my collection with other, different music. If you want to see my list it is at www.bee.net/gibby If you want to mail me directly at home it is Gib Lappano 1919 Wynnewood Road Philadelphia, PA 19151 I have a Nak BX-300 I record on and I can use either a Dennon DRW-580 or Sony TC-KE500S for playback. Quite a frugal setup compared to many at the naklist site, but that will improve with time. I hope to hear from you. Regards, Gib ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= naktalk mailinglist, hosted by the Unofficial Nakamichi Cassette Deck resource. TO UNSUBSCRIBE PLEASE FOLLOW THIS LINK http://www.naks.com/naktalk.html ========------------------------------------------------------------------========= From mature at owh.moldnet.md Sat Sep 25 14:07:09 1999 From: mature at owh.moldnet.md (m t) Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 15:07:09 +0300 Subject: [naktalk] re: will the cassette format surrvive? Message-ID: <37ECBAEC.8AEC896D@owh.moldnet.md> no, it won't. only healthy built machines will, and that's because of their exceptional engineering excellence, bringing a poor starting point (the "compact cassette" medium) to a respected status. come on, people, we love our naks because of that- those guys (Goto & co) took the joke seriously, they are geniuses just like their products are. let's recognize- we love fetiches. give those boys from wadia a few more years and you'll see. our main problem is that we live in the damn transition times, so we have to stick to an audio format that came close to its maximum- a stable format. the future is digital (i hope with the bias tuning knob on the front...) keep nakkin' marin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: